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FAQs on Marine Environmental Disease/Losses
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Environmental Disease, Establishing
Nutrient Cycling, Marine
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Maintenance, Related FAQs:
Marine Environmental Disease 1,
Marine Env. Disease 2, Marine Env.
Disease 3, Marine Env. Disease 4,
Marine Env. Disease 5,
Marine Env. Disease 6, Marine Env.
Disease 7, Marine Env. Disease 8,
Marine Env. Disease 9,
Marine Env. Disease 10,
Marine Env. Disease 11,
Marine Env. Disease 12, & FAQs on Environmental Disease By
Cause/Types: Environmental Deficiencies,
Oxygen/Gas Problems, Poisoning,
Mis-stocking: Psychological Challenges,
(Aggressive
Behavior, Territoriality, ),
Physiological Challenges (e.g. Metabolites, Allelopathy, Stinging),
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Attn: Bob Fenner... Reef trouble... hlth. diag. 9/1/2009
Bob,
Hey..How are you?
<Fine thanks>
Its been awhile since my last email. All has been well with my Reef tank
until 4 days ago..
I have a 49 gal cube tank with a 10 gal sump and 10 gal refugium. My
fish are Two Spot Bristletooth tang, a mated pair of True Perc Clowns, a
Banggai Cardinal, Orchid Dottyback, and one yellow tail damsel who lives
in the Fuge. My corals are mostly mushrooms, Zoas and 2 orange Monti
caps.
Over the past 3 months I had been battling Dinos, which up to about 2
weeks ago started to fade out. Allot of my cleaning crew had been lost.
So 4 days ago I added about 40 nass snails
<Wow>
and 30 periwinkle snails
<Too many...>
and some larger turbo snails. Up till I added the snails, all the fish
were very active and eating well. It seals like since I added the
snails, The Dottyback hasn't came out of his cave in 4 days, and both my
clowns have pretty much stop eating and are very lethargic.
<Mmm, do you suspect something "came in" with the gastropods?>
Normally whenever I put my hand in the tank anywhere near where the
clowns lay their eggs, the male would bite at my hand. Today I stuck my
hand right by him and he pretty much hovered over my hand. Both clowns
look like they can barely swim. I'm ready to put both of them in a
hospital tank.
I took a flashlight and shined by the Dottybacks cave...he just laying
in one position barely moving. If I stick my hand by there, he will swim
around and move like normal. But then returns back to his same position
in the cave. The Dottyback has also stopped coming out to eat. When I
acclimated the snails,
Before I added them, I rinsed them off with tank water.
<Mollusks of many kinds are vectors of parasites of MANY kinds>
The tank has been set up for a little over a year and I've added snails
many times with no problems.
My water parameters are as follows:
Salinity - 1.025
Ammonia - 0
Nitrates - 0
Nitrites - 0
PH - 8.6 ( i know kinda high)
Alk - 13 dKH
Calcium - 420
Phosphate - 0
I do 5 gal water changes weekly with 12 stage filtered RO/DI water, I
run my skimmer 24/7, and I have a Phosban reactor which I run carbon.
But I haven't had going in about 3 weeks. Should I move the affected
fish to a hospital tank?
<I would try some (serial, daily) large water changes myself... but have
the other tank ready... And I'd remove most of the snails>
I would appreciate any help you can give me...Thanks!!!!!!!
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Aeration and massive fish
kill 8/12/09
I have a 200 gal reef aquarium, built above a bar, so the water level is
about 7' above ground. Geometry is a bit too deep for surface area (L
shaped tank) as the tank is Plexi and the two covers have about a 1/2
in. gap for air exchange. Lighting is enclosed with forced air
ventilation (actinic & metal halide). 25 gal sump with mechanical filter
and protein skimmer.
Separate bio filter with own circulation. Additional mechanical filter
with own circulation. Main circulation from a weir through sump at
1400gph.
Tank is 3 years old. Lots of live rock, snails, hermits, serpentine
starfish, bubble tip, and:
Hippo tang
Flame Hawk
4 Damsels
Sail Fin Tang
Chrysurus Angle
Striped Wrasse (2)
Sergeant Major (2)
Neon Dottyback
For first 9 months, fought dropping ph. Alkalinity way too high for ph.
Tested container of water with aeration while monitoring ph. Yep, rose
very quickly. Too much carbon dioxide (carbonic acid generation).
<Not uncommon.>
Put a couple of air stones in sump with small aeration pump. Helped. Got
6 CFM linear air pump, large aeration stone, and installed in sump. Put
pump outside for less CO2 in source.
<Good>
Tank ran great for next 2+ years.
Linear pump died, so ordered another. Replaced with small "air bubbler
type" pump until new one arrived.
Normally clean/10% water change each week, but schedule resulted in a 3
week cycle.
Got new pump, installed. Next day (yesterday) all but a small Sergeant
Major were dead! No problem with inverts.
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Full chemistry showed nothing! ph 8.2; Nitrate .5ppm; 0 ammonia and
nitrite; SG 1.025; No copper; temp 79 (chiller installed). Did have
higher than normal smell of nitrogen from bio filter flow.
Any idea what happened?
Ralph
<Only a general guess... some sort of "wipe out syndrome" that did not
affect the invertebrates, and left the one, hardy damsel extant amongst
the fishes. Please read here re:
http://wetwebmedia.com/toxicwipeoutf.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Re: fish death 8/13/2009
I'm unable to find Poly Filters here at present time the available
products
I can get are Purigen and Chemi-Pure. Will either of these products
work?
<For the purposes of toxic removal, yes. For diagnosis of identification
by colour, no. Bob Fenner>
More Re: Cardinal gill problem 11/13/08 Hi Scott,
Thank you for your response. <Welcome Wendy.> I haven't added
anything new for quite some time. No painting or spraying of any
kind is allowed near the tank, not even to clean the glass. I
use a refractometer to test my SG and it's been calibrated with
RO/DI water. Since he's acting normal otherwise I'll wait for a
response from Bob. <I will drop this in his box right now. He is
only a day or two out at this point.> Thanks again, Wendy
<Thank you, Scott V.> <<Most "cases" in which there appear to be
"hard breathing", more or less permanent distension of gills are due
to issues of gas distribution (low DO mostly, Dissolved Oxygen) or
some sort of in situ poisoning... I see that there is appreciable
Blue Green Algae present in this system... this might well "be it"
here. Please see/search WWM re BGA et al. toxic effects. Perhaps
start here: http://wetwebmedia.com/toxictkendof.htm Bob Fenner>> |
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