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FAQs about Flatworm Identification 3
Related Articles: Flatworms (incl. Planaria),
Pest Flatworm Control by Anthony Calfo,
Worms, Featherduster Worms,
Related FAQs: Flatworm Identification,
Flatworm ID 2, Flatworms/Planaria 1,
Flatworms 2, Flatworms 3, & FAQs
on: Flatworm Behavior,
Flatworm Compatibility, Flatworm Control,
Predator Control, Chemical Control,
Flatworm Selection, Flatworm Systems,
Flatworm Feeding, Flatworm Disease,
Flatworm Reproduction, & Worms, FAQs:
Worm Diversity FAQs,
FAQs 2, FAQs 3, &
Worm IDs 1, Worm
IDs 2, Worm IDs 3,
Worm IDs 4, Worm IDs 5,
Worm IDs 6, Worm IDs 7,
Worm IDs 8, & Worm ID FAQs by Group/Phylum:
Flatworm Identification ID,
Nemertean, Proboscis, Ribbon Worm ID,
Nematode, Roundworm ID,
Nematomorpha, Horsehair Worm ID,
Acanthocephalans, Thorny-headed Worm ID,
Polychaete Identification,
Polychaete ID 2, Tubeworm ID,
Hirudineans, Leech ID, Echiuran Worm
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Nudibranch hitchhiker 10/12/09
Hello,
<Hi there>
I set up a new 50G tank about 2 months ago after some success (and
failures) with a 14G nano. As part of the setup, I bought some live
rocks. After the tank was cycled, I saw a black Nudibranch with a thin
blue edge around its body.
<Mmm, though there are many species of Nudibranchs... of many
colour/patterns, I suspect that what you saw/have is actually a
Flatworm.
Please see here for some examples: http://wetwebmedia.com/flatworms.htm>
I tried to identify from your website and other sources from the
internet, but I am not able to find the a matched photo to ID it. From
its structure, I believe it is of the genus Chromodoris or Hypselodoris.
I
understood that they are carnivores, and they are poisonous. The latter
makes me worry. My tank is not large, and because it is new, there can't
be enough living things for the Nudibranch to feed on. At the beginning
I have some bristle worms and amphipods, I can't see them any more, may
be it is the act of the Nudibranch or the Heniochus. I am kind of
surprise it is still living and wandering around (it particularly like
to stay around the water line), but I think it won't be able to survive
long in the tank because I think the tank should not have enough food
for it. If it dies, then I worry it will release poisonous stuff and
kill the other tank mates.
Is this true? If so, should I remove it before the tank mates get
killed?
<In this volume, 50 gallons... I don't think there is much risk of this
animal poisoning anything>
Thanks in advance,
Simon
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Re: Nudibranch hitchhiker... Hey, this guy's pretty good...
10/12/09
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the quick response. I read the article you pointed below,
yes, it is a flat worm Pseudoceros sapprinus, and sounds like it is a
beneficial animal. I will definition keep it.
Thanks again,
Simon
<Welcome! BobF>
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Help with identifying unwanted addition in 100 gal reef
aquarium
7/27/09
Hi,
<Scooby doo>
I have exhausted hours online trying to identify what this particular
thing is. I'm referring to the small white flat ovalish dot on the base
of the Frogspawn Coral and also on the aquarium at the corner behind the
Birdsnest Coral.
<I see them...>
We quarantine everything and this appeared just a couple of months ago.
I now see it on the liverock, on our clam's shell and on the Frogspawn
coral that was just added a month ago so it apparently spreads
aggressively.
We have had our tank a couple of years and so far have been successful
adding slowly and quarantining religiously. Please let me know if you
need additional information, I would be happy to send it.
I need help identifying what this is and how to control it.
Many thanks, Marlyn
<Mmm, need a better resolved, closer up image to make a better guess,
but look to be some sort of Acoel flatworm... Please send along that
better pic
and read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/fltwmcomp.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
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Identify (Pesky Platyhelminthes)
7/9/09
Hello,
I have been reading your site for years and it has helped me a
lot...thank you. Now for my question, I have something in my saltwater
aquarium. I cant figure out what it could be... It seems to be a single
cell type algae or creature of some kind...but I've not been able to
identify what it could be.
<Phylum Platyhelminthes:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/flatworms.htm
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I need to know if it is harmful to my tank or what?
<Mostly "or what".>
...my tank has been up and running good for about three
years...everything in it seems to be doing just fine.. it has been in my
tank for about a month now but seems to be multiplying fast and is now
starting to cover my glass, live rock and sand...how do I get rid of it?
<Best physically removed, or via the addition of something that eats
them, though the range of options here will depend on your aquarium and
level of experience; see here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/pestflatwrmanthony.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fltwmcont.htm
>
hope you can help.. I've enclosed 2 picture the first is up close shot
and the second you can see it on my live rock.
<To be honest, I've usually found these pesky flatworms come and go in
pulses, perhaps related to ambient conditions; optimising water
conditions, improving things like skimming, circulation and filtration,
should tilt things in favour of other, more desirable organisms.>
Thank You
Kristi
<Cheers, Neale.>
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Critter ID 5/24/09
Sorry crew for the not to informative email. Ok the tank is saltwater, and
the only new additions lately have been orange mushroom and a chocolate chip
starfish
< Chocolate Chip Starfish are not reef safe. The mushroom could soon become
lunch if it or the starfish are not removed.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ccstarcompfaqs.htm >
I only was able to get 2 decent pics of this thing on the side of my tank,
but there are about 20 of them that I can see, to much rock to really see
the back of the tank, but there could be more! Thanks for your help.
Kenny
< The animals in the pics are Red Planaria (Convolutriloba retrogemma).
Remove what you can. They thrive in high nutrient and low water flow. Lots
of info here on Wet Web. Please read here.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/pestflatwrmanthony.htm GA Jenkins >
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Euphyllia Eating Flatworm?
Polyclad – 4/30/09
Hi!
<Hi there, Cath!>
I've lost several of my Euphyllia corals in the last couple of months.
<Uh-oh>
This morning, I've found what I think is a kind of flatworm on many of
my frog, torch and ancora pieces. With a close look and more attention,
I saw that all my Euphyllia are literally infested by this ”little”
(some are up to ½”) beast.
<Yikes!>
There are also a lot of yellow eggs around them. Here is, in a joined
piece, a picture of the beast. The shot was not taken by me, but by a
fellow reefer of my area who has the same problem. What exactly is this
flatworm?
<Looks like a Polyclad of some sort to me (see link below for more
info).>
Is there a way to get rid of them?
<Manual/diligent removal of all visible worms/eggs. In addition, check
any and all other corals (and rockwork if possible) for further evidence
and remove any you come across. I’d also put the corals, one at a time,
in small tub or container with tank water, and using something like a
turkey baster, blast any areas of dead skeleton/rockwork with water to
hopefully dislodge any unseen juveniles.>
I've made a lot of searches and haven't found anything about it.
<That’s understandable. I looked everywhere and only found a couple of
unconfirmed hobbyist reports related to Euphyllids and suspected
Polyclad predation. Furthermore, I was unable to find any documentation,
anywhere, confirming actual predation of any coral species by these
worms at all. That’s not to say that it’s not possible however.
Apparently, there’s a lot of information still needing to be
discovered/revealed regarding these large worms. The general consensus
is that they’re all predatory - consuming various colonial or sessile
organisms such as Tunicates, Bryozoans, bivalves, barnacles, etc, as
well as other small invertebrates such as amphipods, small snails,
Polychaete worms, and even other flatworms. Also, some evidently feed on
algae, especially diatoms, but only as juveniles. The problem with this
situation is that unless you’ve actually seen the worms eating live
coral tissue, you have to consider that their presence may be
secondary/incidental. Perhaps the corals are dying due to one or several
other reasons – for instance environmental issues (water chemistry,
chemical warfare/allelopathy, etc), or due to fish/crabs, etc picking at
them. The culprit could even be another type of flatworm (perhaps
Acoels?) or something else entirely. The Polyclad flatworms could be
there to prey on the real predator(s), or other incidental/harmless
amphipods, etc, that have congregated to feast on the sudden bloom of
algae and/or dying coral tissue. Admittedly, an infestation level of
anything near a damaged coral doesn’t look good, but I’d rule out other
possibilities just to be sure. I have to admit, if I were in your shoes,
I’d likely err on the side of caution and remove as many Polyclads as I
could. Had there been just one or two, I’d have left it/them, but in the
case of many – bye bye!
I’ve got some links for you to read through. Here’s a similar situation:
FAQ titled “Euphyllia Health issues / hitch hiker ID... likely
allelopathy, env. 6/9/08”, at this link:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/carydisf7.htm
Allelopathy issues: http://wetwebmedia.com/cnidcomppt3.htm
Flatworms: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/flatworms.htm >
Thank you!
Cath
<You’re very welcome! Take care, LynnZ>
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Halimeda seeds?
4-13-09
Crew,
<Ryan>
I am a long time reader and I truly appreciate the site. I have two
identifications questions for you. The first is a golf ball sized
seed pod looking thing that came attached to a clump of Halimeda, I
have searched
plenty but found nothing about Halimeda seeds or anything of the
seed ball.
<Mmm, no... Halimeda is a Thallophyte (an algae)... reproduce by
spores... true plants (Embryophytes) have seeds>
I have now noticed little green maybe Nudibranchs on the tanks glass
near the seed ball. I just want to check the IDs to be sure I am not
unleashing a plague in my tank. I know I should of probably not put
something in my tank with out knowing what it exactly what it is but
the store didn't think it was a big deal.
Thanks for the help,
Ryan King
Current Tank setup:
AGE - three months
55 Gallon with 17 lbs live rock and 60 lbs lace.
Lighting is a 65x4 power compact.
30 Gallon sump with about 20 gallons of water in it.
The tank runs at 78F and salinity of 1.024
I used instant ocean salt mix and RO/DI water.
Current stock:
Fish: Yellow Tang and two Ocellaris Clowns
Shrimp: Cleaner, pair of Peppermint
Stars: Blue Star, Brittle Star
Snails: 20 various small cleaners
Crabs: 10 Red Leg hermits, 10 Blue Leg hermits
Coral: Xenia, GSP, Mushroom, and a few misc frags
<Looks to me to be a colonial Ascidian... the clear bunch is dead...
Bob Fenner>
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Correction to today's dailies - 4/13/09
Hiya Bob!
<Mich>
So I was looking at that ID question that came and talked to Lynn
about it this morning. It is definitely not a colonial Ascidian.
Lynn found these photos:
http://www.jaxshells.org/vilano60.htm
http://www.biol.andrews.edu/EVERGLADES/organisms/invertebrates/mollusks/true
_tulip_snail/egg_cases_of_tulips.jpg
We think it is a snail egg mass, likely that of a tulip snail, which
likely wouldn't be good news for Ryan's tank to have such
carnivorous snails.
http://www.indyzoo.com/pdf/TrueTulipSnail.pdf
<Ohhh!>
And the other image which he thought were Nudibranchs look to be
Acoel flatworms, specifically Convolutriloba, similar to the photo
here:
http://macropyga.googlepages.com/convolutriloba_1.jpg
Which came from this site:
http://macropyga.googlepages.com/
and the differences can be seen here:
http://macropyga.googlepages.com/identification
Lynn found all these images. She's really great at getting these
ID's!
Cheers,
Mich
<Thanks much... Will amend on the morrow... a shame that I've
deleted the original senders email address. BobF>
He wrote back!!!! YAY!!!!! Lynn replied to him. M
<Ahh, very good. B
Re: Halimeda seeds? Egg Capsules and Acoel Flatworms -
4/13/09
Bob,
<Hi Ryan, Lynn here this evening. I sure am glad you wrote back. My
fellow crew member, Mich, and I put our heads together this morning
and came up with some information regarding the two mystery items in
your tank. The follow-up will be posted tomorrow at the dailies, but
I’ve included a copy here as well (see below). The only thing I’d
like to add is that we’ve got lots of information at WWM regarding
Convolutriloba flatworms and Tulip snails in marine systems. Just
enter the terms in our search engine and you should be good to go:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/WWMAdminSubWebIndex/question_page.htm .>
Thanks for the info - I guess it shows that I am clearly an
electrical engineer and not a biologist (algae has no seeds... doh).
<Heeheeee! No worries. I hate to think of the wholesale Godzilla
destruction I could cause if I even stepped a toe into the world of
electrical engineering!>
I do enjoy the site and your book.
<On behalf of Bob and the rest of the crew, I thank you!>
Best Regards,
Ryan King
<Take care, LynnZ>
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Little rust red things, Planaria, 4/6/09
I have these little rust red colored flat worm looking things on my glass
and now on my live rock.
Any idea what they are and how to get rid of them?
<Most likely Red Planaria, see here
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/pestflatwrmanthony.htm and related FAQs for
more.>
They are about 1/8" wide and slightly longer than wide
Please see attached picture.
<Tough to tell for sure from that picture.>
Thanks
Glenn
<Welcome>
<Chris>
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Mysterious Creature: Likely Flatworm 11/17/08 Hello
Crew, <Hello Susan, Lynn here today.> I have had a 180 gallon reef
type aquarium for about three years now. <Very nice.> One of my
favorite activities is to explore the marine-scape at night with a
flashlight and magnifying glass. <You're mind kind of people!>
It's amazing what turns up sometimes, <Yes, indeed.> which brings
me to my question. Last night I found a new mysterious creature and
my searches of WWM and Google have turned up nothing as to its identity.
So maybe you might have an idea what it was. Unfortunately I don't have
a photo, but I'll do my best to describe it. <Okay> The creature
was affixed to the glass at the back, just above some rocks. It was
somewhat circular in shape and flat -- it looked a lot like a large
amoeba, about 3" in diameter. It was light brown in color and opaque.
There was no discernable head, although there was a white spot, like a
large grain of sand, that remained stationary relative to the movement
of the animal. The creature moved with a slow, circular motion, its
shape changing fluidly as it moved. Lightly frilled edges and occasional
bubbled-up patches formed underneath as it moved. <It might be some
kind of flatworm, but I'd need a photo to confirm.> I was so curious
that I turned on the fluorescent lights. It reacted to the light and got
somewhat smaller, moving slowly into a more elongated shape (about 1" x
2"). A darker area seemed to appear down the midline as it slowly
shimmied down the glass. It continued to grow smaller and more elongated
so that it was almost a sausage shape by the time it reached the sand.
Then it disappeared behind the rocks. <Terrific observations. Yep, it
sounds like a Polyclad flatworm, of which there are many, many species.
They're able to change shape just as you described and are quite
interesting to watch. I'd love to see a photo of this little guy but I
can sure understand why you weren't able to get one. Hehee, they never
seem to understand �Stay right there while I grab my camera!�. For more
information on Polyclad flatworms, please see the following link:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/flatworms.htm > Anyway I am baffled and
really curious about the identity of this odd creature. Perhaps the Crew
has seen something like this . . . <Yes, we do get inquiries related
to flatworms from time to time, as can be seen in our FAQ�s starting
here (be sure to go through the associated links at the top of the page
as well): http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fltwmid.htm > Thanks for your
help. <You're very welcome. It's always a pleasure to converse with a
fellow enthusiast. Let's face it, there aren't that many of us that sit
up at night with a flashlight, peering into our tanks! By the way, a
flashlight with a red lens is terrific for observing nocturnal animals
and their behavior. The beam from a regular flashlight is usually enough
to send most critters diving for cover! Also, if you have a magnifying
glass, definitely get it out and take a look-see. That opens up even
more possibilities.> Susan P.S. I love your web site. It's been a
major source of information and advice since I started this fabulous
hobby and has kept me from making a lot of mistakes. <Heehee! Me too!
Bob has certainly amassed an impressive amount of material that
continues to grow with each incoming query. Thank you sharing your
observations with us! Take care, Lynn>
Worm or what? 10/1/08 This thing is huge
(silver dollar size), and I think it's moving relatively fast. It
looks to me like a giant flat worm. <To me as well. Perhaps a
Pseudoceros sp.> I guess it can't reproduce and I guess it might
be the reason I have not had luck with shrimp in this tank and my
serpent stars are being eaten slowly. <Mmm, doubtful it is this
Platyhelminth...> That's a whole lot of guessing so maybe I'll
just attach a picture and see what the experts think. Thanks,
As always love this site, Jesse <Read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/flatworms.htm the linked files above. Bob
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Planaria or other SW "bug"? ...Planaria 9/11/08 Hi WWD
team, <WWD?> Hope all is well on your end of this email.
<Yes, thank you.> I have been through many of your ID and FAQ pages
and haven't found anything that seemed to fit my scenario. I have a 75g
future reef setup that has been up and running for four months. I have
around 50-60 lbs of base rock seeded with 20 lbs of live rock a SSB of
around 2-3" aragonite that was dry (no live sand here! Waste of money
IMHO). <Will become live with time.> No coral or fish yet since I
wanted to give the tank a few months to mature nicely. <Good idea.>
I have a cleanup crew of two emerald crabs, <Not to be trusted.>
five Nassarius snails, <Good.> five Trochus snails, <Good.>
three Margarita snails <These snails can live over a hundred years in
their natural environment which is significantly cooler than most reef
systems. These snails typically die a slow death from being cooked in
the too warm home aquarium.> and 10 blue leg hermits. <Again not
to be trusted.> Over the last two months, I have noticed some
peculiar white/off white "bugs" on the glass that some have considered
flatworms (I am assuming Planaria) but nothing definitive. <Yes,
they are Planaria.> They are small, maybe 1 mm at the most and crawl
around on the glass. I have also seen a few move more like an
inchworm. I do have plenty of amphipods I see scurrying around the live
rock at night and had seen small white bugs early on that were round
with white legs branching out all around (isopods or copepods?)
<Could be either.> that I think many people describe as the "tiny
white spiders on my glass" but this seem to be replaced with these
little buggers. I finally snapped a decent photo of them and was hoping
to see if you can ID. Here is a link to the suspects in question:
http://s400.photobucket.com/albums/pp87/bbl_nk/?action=view¤t=bugs
1.jpg <These are Planaria. More on them here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/flatworms.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/pestflatwrmanthony.htm You can see similar
images here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/flatwrmfaq2.htm > Thanks!
<Welcome!> Brian <Mich>
Flat worm? 03/24/2008 First thank you for the service that
you provide. <<Thanks for the comments. Andrew here today>> I
have searched the site for similar flat worms as well as other sites
and I cant really make up my mind what to do about these guys. I
have a CPR hang on refugium with built in protein skimmer. I saw
three of these guys when looking at the fuge from the side today. I
pulled one out with tweezers to try to get a picture which I am not
very good at anyway. Sorry about the quality. They seem light brown
when out of the tank and slightly reddish when under the light. I
have only seen these in my fuge on my macro algae. I have not seen
them anywhere in the display. I have a six line wrasse perhaps he /
she eats them? They are only a few millimeters in length and have a
uniform border, no jagged edges. <<Planaria flatworms. They
thrive better in lower flow areas of the tank, which is probably why
your noticing them in your fuge. If they are not in plague
proportions, then you can leave them alone, or simply such them out
when you see one with a turkey baster>> The flow in the CPR is
very low as there is only the inlet pump (RIO) for circulation and
protein skimming. I have a ton of flow in the main tank as it is sps
dominated hence my concern. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Here is the best I could do picture wise.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg252/mlgiii23/worm.jpg
<<Thanks for the questions and the nice photo, hope this helps. A
Nixon>> | 
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Strange Creature... Planaria... Mmmm, flatworms 3/9/08 Hey
Gang. <Hi Wuf, Mich here.> I have been trying to identify this
creature for a few days. I can't for the life of me figure out what it
is. They are starting to accumulate on some of my rocks. To give you an
idea of scale, the specimen pictured in IDme1.jpg is right at 1/16th of
an inch. Any idea? -wuf <Well the good news... Yes I can tell you
what it is... The bad news... you don't want it. Is a pest, an Acoel
flat worm. Yours is looking like its reaching plague proportions. You
will likely need to address the situation. More here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/flatworms.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/pestflatwrmanthony.htm Sorry to be the
bearer of bad news, Mich>
Re: Strange Creature... Planaria... Mmmmm Flatworms 3/10/08 I
guess the good news is now I know what the problem is, so now I can
attack it. Figure a few taps of a hammer to the bottom glass should take
care of them all (j/k). <Heehee! I feel your pain! Happy siphoning.>
Thanks for your time, Mich. <Happy to help! Sorry it wasn't better
news for you. Mich> -w | 
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Worm ID please 3/3/08 Hi! <Cath> Here is a picture of
''the thing''.(joined piece) A reefer of my area see it on is
hammerhead. I guess it's a kind of flatworm but I'm not sure...if so, is
it a bad one? Regards. Cath <Are some sort of flatworm... Not
likely harmful. Please read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/flatworms.htm
Bob Fenner> | 
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Some Kind of Flatworm... Planaria... Likely Convolutriloba retrogemma
12/03/2007 Hi my name is Mike <Hi Mike, my name is Michelle,
my father shared your name.> and have a 150 gal reef tank and have
some kind of flat worm. <Yup... > and I'm not sure if that’s what
they are. <Is Planaria, a flatworm, likely Convolutriloba
retrogemma> I need to know what these little things are cause they
are eating all of my star polyps and some of my mushrooms. <They
generally flatworms tend to cause injury by smothering the coral… and
once the corals begin to decay the flatworms start to consume the
zooxanthellae. Your corals do not seem to be covered to the point that I
would expect death… perhaps there is something else at play here. More
here and the related links in blue:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/pestflatwrmanthony.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/flatworms.htm Good luck, Mich> | 
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Flatworm ID – 09/29/07 Hello crew, <Hi there, Mich here>
I'm a big fan of all of you. <Me too! There are some fantastic
people here!> My husband jokes around with me that while most people
emulate movie stars and baseball players, my heroes are all scientists.
<What's wrong with that?> I've asked around some forums, but no one
is quite sure what to make of this. These grayish-blue colored flatworms
are very small, larger than a copepod, smaller than a "normal" flatworm.
It's been suggested that they are blue due to something they've eaten.
<Maybe, maybe not.> They have the two horns at the end. <The end
if you will.> The "head" or front part is either segmented or has a
darker blue line behind it at the "neck." Some of the larger ones *may*
have little ruffles around the sides. I was looking at them with a
magnifying glass. I only see them on my red slime algae, <They are
likely elsewhere as well, just may be harder to see in other places.>
which I just had a bad outbreak of. <No fun!> None of my corals
are suffering, <A good sign.> and I don't see any of these
flatworms on any corals. <Lucky!> Is it possible for flatworms to
eat red slime? <I guess anything is possible, they generally feed on
detritus and algae.> They seem to have shown up around the same time
as the red slime, <Maybe just the first time you noticed them
because of the background color of the Cyanobacteria.> and have
exploded in population the past few days. <Yikes!> The larger
ones have beautiful patterns on their backs, like a diamond back snake
or an x-ray, I can't tell on the small ones. It really seems too good to
be true--beautiful cyano eating flatworms. <Yes I do believe you are
correct here.> By the way, my tank temperature is 70* F maintained by
chiller, <Really 70 F? Is this a typo or are you really running a
cool water system?> if that makes any difference. <I know naught
on cool water systems.> These are the best out of about 50 pictures I
took. <Oh yes, been there done that!> I asked for a microscope
for Christmas. <Heehee! Will you ask Santa to deliver on to me as
well?> Thank you for any help you can give me. <Not too much I'm
afraid. They do look like flat worms and I would be very careful as they
are known to reach plague proportions. Though some aquarists report
having a continual population of Planaria that never gets out of
control. If it were my system I would try to remove as many as possible
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Flatworms: Amphiscolops sp...what to do? - 8/19/07 I found these
in my tank. Can you please guide me on what to do, if anything at all?
<No worries and no need for action (nice picture, though!). These are
harmless little flatworms (Amphiscolops sp.). They tend to pop up in
tanks and disappear a short while later. Please see these links for more
info re: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/flatworms.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/flatwrmfaq3.htm <Take care –Lynn> | 
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