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FAQs on Marine Infectious Disease (Bacterial, Fungal, Viral)
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Bacterial infection? 10/29/05 Aloha again from Honolulu. I
think Scott answered my last e-mail but I couldn't find the reply in
my saved e-mails. I wrote about my 60 gallon fish and invert tank
with an outbreak of ick. I had already removed the fish (Percula
clown, flame angel, hippo tang and zebra blenny) to two 10 gal
quarantine tanks and had started Cupramine treatment in the tank
with the tang. I was observing the other tank with the remaining
fish. I ended up treating them with Cupramine as well after the
clown and flame angel displayed the ick spots. Treatment went well
with daily water changes and Cupramine redosing and testing. They
are now done with treatment and will remain in their quarantine
tanks for another three weeks while the display tank is fallow. I
added more filtration and circulation to my display tank and the
water clarity is much better. Still having some problems with
temperature fluctuation due to office A/C not under my control.
Normally during the week it stays between 79.0 and 80.05 but on the
weekend when the A/C is turned down it can go up to 83.0. My
questions concern some symptoms my fish are now experiencing after
their copper treatment. The flame angel's lips have turned white and
her gills are looking gray colored. She is feeding well and swimming
around normally. Is this a bacterial infection or possibly water
quality/copper treatment side effect? <The latter> Hopefully
my photo is good enough for an ID. If bacterial, what antibiotic (I
have Furazone green/light and Maracyn/Maracyn II) if any should I
use? <None> Or should I just continue to observe to see if she
continues to improve. <Yes> I am reluctant to use any more
meds after the copper treatment unless necessary. <You are wise
to be cautious here> Also, my tang and clownfish have signs of
HLLE, which I believe started in the display tank. <And is
exacerbated by copper exposure> Photos also attached. I have been
adding VitaChem to their water and food daily and the holes do not
appear to be getting any worse. Selcon has been ordered and I will
start using that as well. Overall, I would say all of the fish
tolerated the Cupramine treatment much better than I anticipated. I
have read that all of these fish are sensitive to copper but with
twice daily testing and redosing as indicated it seemed to work
really well. <Good> I would note that the fish did seem to
lose their appetites during treatment but the clam on the half shell
trick did work for the flame angel. I also used a piece of fresh
shrimp wrapped in Nori (both soaked in VitaChem) on a feeding clip.
The flame angel, blenny and tang can't get enough of this and I
would highly recommend trying it for poor feeders. <Thank you for
this> I don't know why but the clownfish doesn't seem to like
using the feeding clip but he will swim around waiting for scraps to
float by. Also, for another reader from Hawaii that wanted to
know where he could get neon gobies-Modern Pet Center in Honolulu
has them. Modern Pet Center is very friendly and knowledgeable with
the best selection of fish in town. <Again, thank you> I tried
Coral Fish Hawaii but they didn't have them and didn't know if or
when they would be getting any. I know Bob likes Coral Fish Hawaii
but I have not been impressed with them or their fish selection. I
have been told that they mainly export now so they are shipping
the fish out as soon as they get them in. Thank for a great
resource. I think it is the best and most extensive site I have
found. Hopefully, I have attached the photos correctly. <<To
perfection. MH>> Aloha, Danna <A hu'i ho! Bob Fenner> | 
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Red rimmed mouth on a Tang Hey Bob I have a Sailfin Tang with
a red rimmed bloody looking) mouth. He also is showing faded color (Like
nighttime colors). I assume the color is do too stress. <Yes... not
good all the way around> And assume the red mouth is the cause.
<Hmm, "per accidens" perhaps... that is not the ultimate cause... that
would be what resulted in the red mouth condition...> I've looked up
every disease reference I can (book and online) and have not found a
disease that seems to be what the Sailfin has. I know it could be from
fighting or slamming into rocks/tank sides. <This is the most likely
possibility> However with close observation I am not seeing any of
these behaviors. There is a 3 week new Asfur Angel in the tank (A
90gal FOWLR) and the tang and the angel tussled on the first day.
However they seemed to be getting along fine after the first day. No
obvious attacks. The other inhabitants of the tank are smaller and less
likely to be the culprit (Tomato clown, algae blenny, Juv shy hamlet,
small yellow tail damsels). <Well... the reddening is due to either
physical trauma and/or bacterial or other microbial involvement... and
"curable" through good husbandry, time going by... hopefully this
specimen is still feeding...> My water tests out with no measurable
nitrates, nitrites, ammonia, etc. I do have a UV filter and protein
skimmer, as well as a canister filled with bio-filter media. I water
change 10gals every 2 weeks. No other fish has any sign of disease
and all, including the tang, are eating great. I feed a mix of frozen
angel food, a homemade frozen "Selcon soaked prime reef with Nori", and
a "veggie" frozen commercial fish food. I have grape Caulerpa, hair
algae and a small amount of feather Caulerpa growing in the tank.
<Sounds fine> So, my question is: what does he possible have, and
what do I do about it? Sorry, I wrote you a book! I am going to get one
of the fish conditioners that increase slime coat and dose the tank to
maybe prevent any secondary infections. Thanks Rich <My take is
about all summed up above... something triggered a trauma and infection
to the mouth of this fish... no dip/bath, addition to the water,
physical manipulation will aid it in recovery... do as you relate
here... keeping the environment optimized and stable and hopefully this
problem will resolve. Bob Fenner> Yellow Tang Turning Red.
Why???? hi, I am new to this hobby, 6 months and unfortunately
have not heard of you. but the great people at ReefCentral message
board told me to ask you this question. Here is the thread to what has
been said I would appreciate it if you can take a look at it and tell me
what you think:
www.reefcentral.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=20967 <Hmm,
many good suggestions offered here... on the why's of your Yellow Tang
being "reddish"... Do agree that this sort of "petecchial" markings are
often directly related to poor water quality, nutritional deficiencies,
possible bacterial problems internally... and the suggested choices for
improvement: pre-mixing and storing your new synthetic seawater,
improving diet.... I would do both of these, suggest you soak Nori,
other human-intended algae in a vitamin preparation like Selcon... ahead
of offering... Possibly add a Cleaner organism as well... Please do read
over the "Yellow Tang", "Environmental Disease",
"Foods/Feeding/Nutrition" sections and FAQs on our website:
www.WetWebMedia.com for background, and hopefully something's there will
jog your memory/observations as to primary causes.> thank you very
much and I hope to learn about you and info from you thanks again
Brian a.k.a. stars360 <Bob Fenner> Re: Yellow Tang Turning
Red. Why???? thank you very much I will look at that section
later on today. but what type of cleaner organism do you suggest. as I
can not get a cleaner shrimp because my trigger or eel will eat it.
<Too likely, yes. Look into tank bred Gobiosoma spp. readily recognized
by most fishes as helpers... not food... Covered on the WWM site> and
the only other organism I can think of getting is a cleaner wrasse. but
from what I hear they are impossible to keep. so what do you recommend.
thanks again Brian <Bob Fenner> Ich/Bacterial Infection
Bob, What is the best way to treat for a bacterial infection on
multiple fish in a FOWLR system? <Hmm, best? If necessary, to add
specific antibiotic/s to the animals' feeds... in addition to
manipulation of the physical environment... And of course: first
checking all aspects of water quality, possibly adjusting... using
ozone, UV... to reduce overall microbial populations...> I need to
treat them in the tank as the fish (Foxface and regal tang) barely get
along in a 75 g tank let alone a 10 g q tank. They both came down with
Ich as well but I have that under control with a temp of 84, salinity of
1.017, two 40% water changes a week apart, and a cleaner wrasse who eats
VibraGro as well as Ich. Anyway, I cannot seem to get rid of the cloudy
eyes that are typical of a bacterial infection. <This condition is
environmental in etiology... not bacterial...> LFS suggested
replacing carbon, soaking food with quarter capsule of Furacyn for two
weeks, and constantly checking Ammonia levels. What do you think of this
approach? <Agree with all but the Furacyn...> Both of these fish
look great except for the eyes. These two fish eat like horses and show
no signs of rapid breathing or sluggishness. The other fish in the tank
(mated Percula clown pair, yellow Coris wrasse, and potter's angel) look
great as well. Please let me know you views on suggested treatment and
if you can offer a better alternative. <I would not worry about the
clouded eyes per se... and would replace these specimens all in the main
tank... the eyes will cure on their own over a period of weeks to a
couple of months. Bob Fenner> Regards, Tyson Help – what
kind of fish disease is this? Mr. Fenner, Yesterday evening
when I came home from work, I found my Threadfin (Auriga) Butterflyfish
has something strange – the “root” part of both of its pectoral fins
(the joint between the fin and the body) is very [b]red[/b]. I’ve had
this fish for about a year. It is swimming and eating as usual. This
occurred overnight. What is this? What should I do about it? <Very
likely an indication of infectious activity (bacteria) from a physical
trauma (if one sided... if both pectoral bases affected would be
inclined otherwise). I would do your best to keep the system optimized
and stable, and supplement this fish's foods with a vitamin and iodide
preparation (such are made/sold for the purpose, or you can make your
own). Please read over the "Tank Troubleshooting" and especially "Three
Sets of Factors That Determine Livestock Health" sections and beyond on
our site starting here: http://wetwebmedia.com/mardisease.htm Bob
Fenner> Thanks, Jason
Re: Help – what kind of fish
disease is this? The red is on BOTH sides. uniform around the
joint. like you said, it doesn't look like physical injury. What others
could this be? <Sorry about the mis-read. Would look into water
quality first/foremost here. This and most Butterflyfishes are often the
first fish livestock to show the affects of something/s anomalous. Bob
Fenner> thanks, Jason Bacterial Problems in a Reef?
Hi Bob, <Steven Pro in this evening.> I've been throughout the
site and, as a person new to marine aquariums, have found it very
helpful over the past few months. <Glad to hear it.> I keep a 60
gallon reef tank and 10 gallon quarantine/medicating tank. <Good for
you on the quarantine/hospital tank.> Over the past week we've been
one-by-one losing our fish to various bacterial-type diseases. Here's
the sequence: 1. Existing happily in our 60 gallon reef were a Kole
Tang, Royal Dottyback, two False Clowns, a Pajama Cardinal, and various
invertebrates. Existing happily after recovery from Ich in our 10 gallon
quarantine were three Green Chromis. Two of them were to live there
permanently to keep the biological filter alive. It's a simple
undergravel filter system with two powerheads running it. <Far better
ways to setup a quarantine tank are outline under the FAQ files.> 2.
We purchased a Lyretail Anthias and a coral beauty, did a Methylene blue
dip, and put them in the quarantine tank. The quarantine tank already
had about 0.20mg/L copper running as part of treatment of Ich that the
Green Chromis developed shortly after purchase a week prior. That same
day, we purchased 1/2 ounce of live brine to feed our fish. <I did
want to point out that the minute you put any new fish into your
quarantine tank, their quarantine time period starts all over. Also,
that is an awful lot of fish to put into a 10 gallon tank.> 3. The
live-brine were fed to both tanks. Three days since step #2, the Kole
Tang quickly sank to the bottom of the 60 gallon reef and hours later
died. <Ok. Not really a symptom of any disease. Possible
contamination of some sort, but just a guess.> 4. Three days after
that, the Lyretail Anthias in the 10 gallon for quarantine developed
Popeye symptoms. <Most often associated with physical damage.> I
purchased antibiotic water treatment tablets and started treating the 10
gallon tank. Knowing this would kill the biological filter, <FYI,
copper is pretty hard on your biological filter, too.> I needed to
relieve the overcrowding in the 10 gallon tank. Since the Coral Beauty
was acting and looking healthy and it had been a week, I moved it to the
60 gallon tank. <A bad idea.> 5. A day later, the Royal Dottyback
in the 60 gallon tank developed ulcer-looking red spots near its tail
and stopped eating. <Sounds bacterial in nature, but caused by what,
I do not know.> We moved it to the 10 gallon quarantine tank. 6. A
day later (Sunday), the Coral Beauty now in the 60 gallon tank developed
Popeye symptoms and we moved it to back to the 10 gallon tank. The
seemingly healthy two Green Chromis were moved to the 60 gallon tank to
relieve overcrowding. <If this were communicable, you definitely
moved it around. Please read up on proper quarantine procedures.> 7.
A day later (Monday), the Royal Dottyback died and the Coral Beauty was
sideways on the bottom breathing heavily. I euthanize it. 8. Today
(Tuesday) the Lyretail Anthias looked so near death that I had to
euthanize it. Both False Percula Clownfish died. In the 60 gallon tank,
our Pajama Cardinal is showing a little clouding in one eye, but is
still eating and the three Green Chromis all seem happy. <I think you
have some sort of contamination. I hate to say it as it is usually what
you guess once you rule everything else out, but your symptoms are very
peculiar.> Water quality in the 60 gallon reef has been fantastic
throughout this...0 ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, pH 8.3, S.G. 1.024.
Water quality in the 10 gallon has been marginal...0 ammonia, pH 7.9,
copper and antibiotics present in the water. Now the questions... 1.
Both tanks developed bacteria-like diseases in the fish before any
exchanges between the tanks occurred. The only things the tank share is
food and new saltwater made for water changes. Is it possible the live
brine delivered the lethal bacteria? <Nope> Alternatively, could
the membrane in my R.O. system used to make saltwater have developed a
lethal bacteria? <No, but a bad membrane or improperly maintained
system could have introduced something.> 2. I assume we now have a
deadly bacteria in both tanks. I've read that the bacteria will continue
to live in both tanks, even if all the fish are removed. <No on both
accounts.> Since invertebrates and live rock will be killed by
antibiotics, how do I get rid of deadly bacteria in a reef tank?
<Highly unlikely you developed some sort of killer bacteria. Much more
likely some sort of water quality/husbandry issue or perhaps a parasitic
infection went unnoticed.> Thanks for any help. Mark Belding
<Several water changes are in order. Also, the use of a PolyFilter may
show something. For the future, follow proper quarantine procedures and
when you do have troubles they will be contained to the quarantine tank.
-Steven Pro> Angel injury (reddish opercular spine, bacterial
involvement?) I have a 7" angel (Goldflake) that appears to have
injured itself. I gently caught it and placed it in a 55 gallon for now
and am watching it. It looks like on one side, it has injured the
'spine' on the lower side of the cheek. you know, the one that only
angels have, but butterflies don't. <Yes, almost all> It appears
to have a shade of pink on that side in there. Not that large an area
though, so I'm not sure if its from the injury itself, or if there is an
infection of some sort. <Very common... likely due to a physical
trauma... running/swimming into something in the tank, net damage,
collateral shipping if the animal is newer.> I only noticed it when
it was no longer eating after two days. Anyhow, after putting it in the
55, its just swimming back and forth (not too fast, not too slow) and
that's when I noticed the spine injury. Anyhow, should I just watch it
or should I put an anti-biotic in there. Or perhaps a light anti-biotic
like Melafix ? <Not an antibiotic product... I would try to boost
the animal's health nutritionally, add a cleaner organism... at this
point.> I know that these bacterial infections can work quickly, but
not sure if it'll recover without antibiotics or not. Also, how apparent
is a bacterial infection ? is it just a vague light pink redness or is
it pretty obvious and just red underneath the skin ? I see only a light
pink in the area and not sure if its just from the injury or what.
Thanks for any help. Jim <Only way to judge is through culture and
staining, microscopic observation... Outside the realm of pet-fishing by
and large in terms of use/applicability... Sometimes, while already
manipulating such animals (not worth re-netting damage, stress), a
topical anti-microbial can be applied (like with a Q-tip (tm)) onto the
affected area... Bob Fenner> Tank wipe out. Hi, I
hope you can help me with this. I have a 130L setup which had been
running fine for 3 months (seeded filter, etc.) All water tests fine
over the last couple of months. 3 days after introducing a Dwarf Angel
(Eibli) this fish became poorly with depressed appetite, cloudy eyes and
ragged fins. It died shortly after despite treatment for bacterial
infection. Over the next 3 days all the other fish became sick also with
the same symptoms. Dwarf Lionfish, Dragon Wrasse, and P. Clown. The
clown was the last to die and the Cleaner shrimp went straight to the
body and eagerly appeared to pick at the body and under the gill
flaps. As I said all water tests were fine and my inverts, Colonial
Anemone and Leather coral, have shown no signs of stress at all. Have
you Guys got any ideas what has gone wrong, and will I need to strip and
disinfect the tank? <hemorrhagic Septicemia is commonly introduced
through dwarf angels and cleans out a system within three days. Simply
runs its course. Do search pictures and info on the web on this
pathogenic condition if it looks similar. Please also review the need
for quarantining all new fish in a QT tank for 4 weeks prior to entry in
a display to prevent such losses. In the meantime, do a large water
change, add a PolyFilter and leave the tank empty for 2-4 weeks before
adding a single test animal. Best regards, Anthony> Thanks for your
help. Dave. Flesh eating bacteria??? 8/9/05 The other
day, I noticed what looked like a fin nip on my pyramid angel (didn't
pay too much mind but watched to see who the culprit was). I went to
work and when I came home, I noticed the area was almost 3x the size of
the "nipped" area and the fish was panting heavily. Over the next 4-6
hours, I could literally watch the area become grey and fleshy and
disintegrate away right in front of my eyes. I put the fish in
quarantine where it died about 1 hour later. What in the world did I
witness? <A rapid necrosis caused by...?> Today I noticed the
Red Sea Chevron had it too and I immediately removed him but within
hours, the area was 3-4 times the size and once again grey and fleshy
and I know that within the next few hours he will be gone also. Both
fish came from the same store and were purchased together but now I need
to know what I'm up against so I do not lose my whole tank. Please
help!!! Thanks, Jeffrey <... very frightening... but it
reads like a super-aggressive infection of Mycobacterium marinum, or
other bacteria... I would definitely not put your hands in the tank w/o
using waterproof gloves... and would try weakening the pathogen by
lowering your specific gravity (quickly if you only have fish
livestock). You might want to save, bring a freshly dead specimen to a
veterinarian that specializes in such diseases, fishes... or a college
for examination. BobF>
Making The Right Diagnosis Hello Crew! <Hi there! Scott F.
with you today!> I did find articles about this subject on your site,
but not specifically about Naso Tangs. I have a 75G saltwater that
has been perfect for two-plus years. About a month ago I added a Naso
Tang. He seemed very happy, but a week after being added, he was
briefly "caught" by my large hermit crab (who's never caught anything
before). <Yikes!> He managed to get away quickly. I checked him
out and all seemed well. Now about 10 days after that incident, both
eyes are very cloudy. One of the eyes has some of the cloudy material
peeling away slightly. Really looks ugly. He sometimes goes to the
bottom of the tank and props himself against a rock -- I think because
he can't see. He tries to eat, but can't see his way around much. <I
don't know if this is the result of "collateral damage" caused by
injury, or some type of other problem.> I have a gallon of Melafix
that I used on another tank. But, I'm not sure its the right stuff for
this and not clear how long to medicate. <I'm glad that you're
holding back on medicating until you make a positive ID as to what it is
you're fighting! Do check on the WWM disease FAQs on parasitic
illnesses, and see if you're dealing with something similar. That's my
hunch...> I had a QT until recently (my son uses it as his tank for
now, long story). So, what do I do folks? Habitants: Red legged
crab two Yellowtail Damsels one small clown An aggressive
wrasse (but he leaves the Tang alone) Thanks so much! Steve
Johnston <Well, Steve- Cloudy eyes and listlessness are symptoms of
the parasitic disease Amyloodinium (Marine Velvet), which can be deadly
if left untreated, not to mention, highly contagious...Do check on those
Parasitic Disease FAQs on the WWM site to verify if this is what you're
dealing with, and then begin treatment in a separate tank with an
appropriate medication (usually copper sulfate or formalin-based meds,
if you're dealing with Amyloodinium) ASAP. With quick diagnosis and
rapid intervention, you can defeat this disease...Get to it! Good luck!
Regards, Scott F.>
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