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FAQs about Marine Crab Identification 12
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Marine Crab ID 11, Marine Crab ID 12,
SW Crab ID 13,
SW Crab ID 14,
SW Crab ID 15, &
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SW Crab ID 6,
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SW Crab ID 9,
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Marine Crab ID 11,
SW Crab ID 13,
SW Crab ID 14, SW Crab ID 15, &
Crab Behavior,
Marine Crab Selection,
Marine Crab Compatibility,
Marine Crab Systems,
Marine Crab Feeding,
Marine Crab Reproduction,
Marine Crab Disease,
Micro-Crustaceans,
Amphipods,
Copepods,
Mysids,
Hermit Crabs,
Shrimps,
Cleaner Shrimps,
Banded Coral
Shrimp,
Mantis
Shrimp,
Anemone Eating Shrimp, Crustacean
Identification, Crustacean Selection,
Crustacean Behavior,
Crustacean Compatibility, Crustacean
Systems,
Crustacean Feeding,
Crustacean Disease, Crustacean
Reproduction,
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stuff, Decapod ID ESP, More
likely development of a content provider in our interest –
10/22/09
Dear sir/madam,
<... will you read my book?>
I have two questions.
<I have considerably more. Let's start with yours though>
Firstly, I have a hitchhiker crab, I was wondering can you tell the type
by it's cast off carapace?
<Perhaps>
I've been trying to lure him out, kill him, and trap him in a jar to no
avail. I know that it has red eyes, a tanned body and two white stripes
between its eyes. Just want to know what type it is. I can send a
picture of the shell if needs be. The left over shell had small black
spots on the claws too if that helps.
<Uhhh>
Secondly, I was reading on the site about some of the WWM team being
writers for publications regarding aquatics and would like some advice.
I work in a aquarium shop in Belfast (Exotic Aquatics), and I've got a
degree
in newspaper journalism, and I'm interested in fish but I've been trying
to write pieces on fish., on equipment, etc, and I just can't seem to
transfer from news to fish. I mean, I know a good bit about aquatics but
there's a
lot I don't too and I'm looking to get a bit of income out of writing so
even just a few areas to stick my nose in an get a few stories would be
good. If this could be passed on to Mr. Fenner or anyone else who
publishes work, that would be kind of whoever has to read this.
Kind regards,
Bob Malcolm
<Bob... do write your submissions into Neale Monks and Andrew Nixon (our
co-editors of our online 'zine... and both Britons...) and let's see if
we can help you on your way to becoming a pet-fish content producer! Bob
Fenner>
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Crab Identification: Fiddler Crab – 10/15/09
Hi :)
<Ah, bonjour Marie, Lynn here today!>
I received yesterday 2 little red crabs from the Philippines and I'm not
sure what they are because of the eyes. I think they may be fiddler
crabs...
<You’re right. The overall shape/length of the stalked eyes and sharply
pointed carapace seem to be fairly common within the semi-terrestrial
fiddlers in the genus Uca, family Ocypodidae. The closest I can find is
a photo of something alleged to be Uca arcuata (see this link:
http://www.geocities.com/rainforest/canopy/5280/philip.htm ).
Unfortunately, I can’t confirm the ID. Either the color/pattern varies
quite a bit (as shown at the above link) or they’re different species
entirely. Apparently, in the Philippines, these are mainly
mangrove/shallow water/intertidal crabs that make their burrows in the
mud and sand. Interestingly enough, I’ve seen a similar species being
offered for sale on the internet, listed as a “Red Burrowing” crab in
the genus Uca. >
..even if they don't have the oversize claw... maybe they're female.
<Yes, my thought as well.>
I sent you a picture, maybe you can help me with this identification.
<I sure wish I could give you a solid ID to species level, but there are
just too many possibilities and not enough available information on the
‘net and within my research books.>
I don't want to give bad information to my customers.
<Good for you! I wish all merchants were this conscientious!
Unfortunately, I have to add that these little crabs should not be kept
in a fully submerged marine system. They’d do much better in an
environment more closely resembling they’re natural habitat (mixed
land/water). For more information on this group of crabs, please enter
the terms (Uca or fiddler) into our Google search engine
(http://www.wetwebmedia.com/Googlesearch.htm). I’ve seen several posts
regarding solid red fiddler crabs with reports of them being very
reclusive. Apparently, once added, they tend to burrow/hide and not come
out much. In Barnes’ Invertebrate Zoology (sixth edition, pg. 717), it
states that tropical species of this genus “tend to be active only
during diurnal low tides”. That’s not a whole lot, even in the wild!
Also, they’re still crabs and basically opportunistic, so hobbyists will
need to keep these well fed to discourage picking/killing of desirable
livestock.>
Thank you
<It was a pleasure, Marie.>
Marie
<Take care, LynnZ>
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Re: Anemone & Crab ID Query
10/9/09
Hi Bob and Crew,
I saw this query come in but unfortunately can't ID the anemone in
question. As for the crab, it looks like a Xanthid of some sort but
unfortunately, there's just not enough information for me to take it any
further. I don't know the crab's size, where it originated, or if it was
associated with anything else. In addition, I can't quite see enough of
the carapace or claws. It looks like a lot of detail (how hairy...where
hairy, surface texture/bumps) is lost/obscured because the crab's out of
water, with water clinging. Anyway, all I can really offer is that it's
likely a Xanthid. Sorry about that...wish I could be of more help!
Thanks!
-LynnZ
<Thank you Lynn... I can't tell much more myself. BobF>
Lynn/Crew,
I also didn't grab the query because of the crab ID, but I believe the
anemone is a Long Tentacle/Corkscrew (Macrodactyla) Anemone. The picture
quality is poor/dark so I'm not betting any money on it.
James
<Me neither. BobF>
Anemone & crab ID
Hi need an ID for this anemone. it's color is dark brown/maroon.
Thanks Siddharth
<Can't discern from this poor photograph. Bob Fenner>
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Crab Identification 9/11/09
I have been unable to identify these crabs; and was hoping you may be
able to help. They were collected in the northeast US in approximately
30 feet of water. The largest of the three is a little larger than an
inch. A
similar crab I was able to find on the internet was Cryptolithodes
typicus.
<If it were Cryptolithodes typicus, they would be a long way from home.
Butterfly crabs are generally found in East Pacific waters.
I have no idea what type crabs these are. There are hundreds/thousands
of species of crabs
<<... No... there are about 5k described species of "crabs" of which
about 500 are "false crabs", Anomurans, like the Hermits... RMF>>
and researching to accurately ID would be much too time consuming. As we
are all volunteers with little time available,
our time is focused toward animals generally encountered in the
tropical/sub-tropical
marine hobby. Now, if they were from tropical waters, an ID may be
possible. Time spent Googling would be your best bet, is what we would
need to do.>
Thank you for your time,
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Cam
<<James, again, please don't respond to queries for which you don't have
a qualified opinion. RMF who doesn't know what these are either. Am
going to put in LynnZ's in-box>>
Re: Crab Identification
Good morning Bob,
Mmm, does the "hundreds/thousands" not fall into the "5k described species"?
<Mmm, perhaps I misread... as hundreds of thousands. Sorry re>
Not being a smarty pants here either, just thought I was in the ball park.
You are correct Bob, I'm not qualified to ID crabs, especially species not
related to the hobby. Was just trying to point out that we are not a
research site as such, but a knowledge base for subjects associated with the
tropical marine keeping hobby.
If I'm on the wrong track here, please do let me know.
Cheers,
James
<Thank you, BobF>
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Re Crab Identification 9/15/09
Thanks for passing the pictures along for id. I don't know if it would
help but the crabs were collected in Nantucket Sound (south of Cape
Cod). The crabs are currently at The Cape Cod Museum of Natural History,
they have yet to identify them.
They don't seem to want to feed, and I was wondering if you had any
suggestions for what to give them.
<I haven't a clue, especially not knowing what they are. Likely
specialized feeders.>
Also I thought you might have the name of a person or group I could
contact who would specialize in crabs that are not tropical.
<I know of no one, Bob or other crewmembers may know. May want to ask
the folks at Cape Cod Museum Of Natural History.>
Thanks again for your time,
<You're welcome. Sorry we could not be of more help. James (Salty Dog)>
Cam
Re: Crab Identification: Likely Elbow Crab –
9/22/09
<Hello Cam, Lynn here today with a follow-up.>
I have been unable to identify these crabs; and was hoping you may be
able to help.
<I’ll sure try. As was noted in the previous response, there are an
awful lot of crab species out there!>
They were collected in the northeast US in approximately 30 feet of
water. The largest of the three is a little larger than an inch. A
similar crab I was able to find on the internet was Cryptolithodes
typicus.
<It is indeed similar, but I believe it’s more than likely a
Brachyuran/”true” crab (4 pairs of walking legs) in the family
Parthenopidae. These are commonly known as “elbow crabs”. Cryptolithodes
species (family Lithodidae) are Anomurans/”false” crabs with 3 pairs of
walking legs and comparatively short claw arms. From the looks of your
little fellows, the term “elbow crab” seems to fit rather nicely. There
are quite a few Parthenopid species that have triangular (or near
triangular) carapaces and fairly small/sometimes hidden walking legs.
Here’s an example (Heterocrypta lapidea):
http://www.scielo.br/img/revistas/bn/v5n2/en_a03fig22.jpg . This
specie’s range is listed as the West Indies to Brazil so unfortunately,
it’s not a likely candidate. However, it appears similar enough to
warrant more research in that direction (including other genera within
this family) should you desire to pursue an ID. Unfortunately, I can’t
see quite enough detail to go any further. Here are more examples from
the Central Pacific region. I know it's not the area your crabs are from
but you can at least see the various attributes within multiple genera
all in one location: http://decapoda.free.fr/search_result.php?faname=Parthenopidae
Parthenopidae classification including genera:
http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/classification/Parthenopidae.html
>
Thank you for your time,
<You’re very welcome.>
Cam
<Take care, LynnZ>
Hi Lynn,
Went to the UofM Animal Diversity site as you list below and I did not
see any pics???
Oops, I see now, one needs to click on Parent Taxa to locate the pics.
James
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Help Identify a Crab: Possible Xanthid: Paractaea monodi -
8/22/09
Hello,
<Hello Susan, Lynn here today.>
Have you ever seen this crab before?
<Oh yes. I’ve seen this little crab before - or at least those like it.
My best guess is that it’s most likely a Xanthid in the genus Paractaea,
possibly a fairly cosmopolitan species: Paractaea monodi (Monod's round
crab). Please see the following links for comparison:
http://www.meerwasser-lexikon.de/images/mP9JnaH6Rn.jpg
See several photos half-way down the following page and another good one
at the bottom: http://www.ivanov.ch/redseaMax/crabes.html . By the way,
there are also some “red-eyed reef crabs” in the genus Eriphia (family
Menippidae) that look similar, but the carapace is not quite right
(spiny/serrated edges instead of smooth, different overall shape and
surface anatomy, etc.). See examples here:
http://www.wildsingapore.com/wildfacts/crustacea/crab/eriphiidae/ferox.htm
>
I have looked at many pages of crab pictures today and I cannot find one
like it.
<Well, there are an awful lot of crab species out there!>
This crab was not purchased on purpose- it was apparently living in a
piece of live rock that was added to the tank!
<Yep, that’s usually how they’re introduced!>
The shell is a very deep purple/black color under the lights and its
eyes are dark orange/red.
<It’s actually a very attractive little crab, but an opportunistic
omnivore and scavenger as well, with an unfortunate potential to destroy
livestock.>
Any leads to identifying it would be appreciated.
<Hope the above information helps!>
Thanks,
<You’re very welcome.>
Susan
<Take care, LynnZ>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/infinitespirals/3844290588/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/infinitespirals/3843501515/sizes/l/
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Hitchhiker Crab/ID 8/13/09
Can you tell me what type of crab this is and whether or not I should
keep it in my reef tank? I have looked all over and can't identify it.
<I did a quick check with a 100 or so photos I have and cannot come up
with an ID. Let see, that leaves about 749,900 crabs I have not saw:)
The crab does appear to be a specie of a swimming crab (last pair of
legs appear to be swim paddles), and most are very predatorial. To be on
the safe side, I would remove.>
Thanks
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
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Crab ID – 7/24/09
Hello!
<Hello there!>
I am hoping you can assist with the identification of a crab I have had
in my tank for approximately a year. It started out about ½" across but
now has grown to well over 1". I have not seen him in over 6 months and
then there he was tonight. I looked through all the available photos but
did not see anything that I could be sure about. I can speculate that he
came in on some rock from Florida.
<Unfortunately, I can’t see enough of the little fellow to be able to
give you much in the way of an ID. All I can say is that it looks a bit
like a Pilumnid (superfamily Xanthoidea, family Pilumnidae). Please see
the following links for examples of crabs in this family for comparison:
http://www.scielo.br/img/revistas/bn/v5n2/en_a03fig44.jpg
Pilumnus sayi:
http://www.dnr.sc.gov/marine/sertc/images/photo%20gallery/Pilumnus%20sayi.jpg
Just bear in mind that all crabs are opportunistic omnivores that are
usually okay when small, but can be a problem as their bodies and
appetites grow. If (and that’s a really big if) what you have is indeed
something in the genus Pilumnus, those usually stay fairly small. The
same rules still apply though – if the crab gets hungry enough, it can
cause problems.>
I am wondering if I should (attempt) to remove him from the tank.
<If the opportunity comes along (he’s out where you can net him) I’d
remove him and find him another home. I wouldn’t go so far as tearing
the tank apart to find him though. If you’re unable to get him out, I’d
make sure he’s got enough food to discourage him from sampling something
he shouldn’t and keep an eye on him (and your livestock). He may be
getting a bit more bold because he’s hungry. You could try feeding him
meaty bits of marine origin (shrimp/fish/clam etc), sinking pellets or
the like. Obviously, if you’re noticing any damage to your livestock,
I’d recommend getting him out of there sooner rather than later. You can
always try to trap the little guy. There are some commercially available
versions on the market or you could try the tipped jar method. Once you
figure out where he hangs out within the rock, take a clean jar and
lean/wedge it up against the area. Put a piece of stinky shrimp or bait
in the bottom and wait. You might have to leave it in place overnight.
The idea is that the crab smells the bait, falls into the jar and can’t
climb back out. Sometimes this works, sometimes you end up with
everything but the crab in there! Hopefully your little crab will be
bold enough to come out in the open where you can net him without any
fuss!>
I have noticed that starfish that I have added will get injuries that
appear as if the insides are exploding out from them and I wonder if he
might be causing them.
<Yikes. It could be but it could also be that the star is dying/reacting
to adverse water conditions, rough treatment prior to (recent) purchase
or any number of things. If it happens again, do write us with all
pertinent info – water parameters, what species it is, what other
livestock you have, how long you’ve had it, etc.>
Thank you!
<You’re very welcome! Take care, LynnZ>
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My
crabinator, ID, comp... 12/12/08
Hello, I sent this four or five days ago. I just want to be sure you all
got it? Can you please let me know.
Thanks,
Poma
<Hi Poma,
Mich here. I apologize for the delay. I have been crazy-busy
preparing/flying across country for the holidays. Please see my answer
below.
Cheers,
Mich>
My Crabinator... Your responsibility
Hey Crew!
<Hey Poma!>
I love you guys!
<All you need is love!>
I met Mich back in Atlanta (I hope you remember me?),
<How could I forget?>
watched Scott's talk on biotope aquariums and loved it!
<Most excellent!>
Anyway, I have noticed that you have a knack for id's Mich.
<I do enjoy these types of questions.>
I was wondering if you could help me out with my new crab.
<I will try.>
I found it a few days back at the beech.
<Beech, birch and maple. All begins with A.>
Could not resist the little bugger,
<I would not prescribe to the "resistance is futile" mentality here.>
brought it home and put the little bugger in my tank.
<Mmm, this is most unwise. In general I recommend that people know about
the animals care requirements BEFORE actually assuming responsibility
for their care. When we bring an animal into our world we become the
provider for all of the needs for this life. It is a weighty
responsibility and should not be taken lightly. I'm not trying to be
critical here, just want to use this as a teaching opportunity.>
Anyway, my tank:
45 gallon
2X 150 MH 14000K
2X 39 W actinic T5
2X MaxiJet 1200 returns
CPR Overflow
CPR Backpack skimmer in sump (thing is awesome!)
2X MaxiJet 900 in display
phosphate reactor
¼ hp chiller
250w heater
Eheim auto feeder
#60 or so of live rock, the Fuji type
<Heehee! Climbing mountains or picking apples?>
Fish:
two maroon clowns, a mated pair
mandarin goby
Copperband butterfly
3 blue damsels
2 Firefish
angler-new, yay!
<Please watch! My devour your other livestock!>
I want to add a Humu trigger,
<I wouldn't.>
but I think my tank is nearing max.
<I am in agreement with you.>
Inverts:
two sand sifting stars for cleanup
<I'm not a fan. They will decimate your live sand and then slowly starve
to death.>
15 hermits
15 snails
xenia X a zillion
<Heehee! Love it!>
a blue clam
Water:
Ca-400
KH- 8
Ammo:0
Nitrites: 0
Nitrates: finally under control, down to 20!
<I'm surprised you've struggled with all your Xenia.>
Anyways, I don't know if I should keep this crab.
<From what part of the world did you collect this crab? I'm wondering if
it might be a temperate species. Now that it has been in your system you
should not release it back into your natural waterways as you could
potentially introduce a foreign pathogen or invasive life>
If I can, what does it eat?
<It does look like a true crab and as such is likely to be an
opportunistic omnivore... meaning watch your livestock.>
How do I take care of the thing.
<Again, it is always best to ask this question and know the answer
before accepting the responsibility for care.>
If I can't keep it, what do I do with it and can you at least tell me
exactly what it is, I would really, really like to know.
<Unfortunately I can not tell much from you photo. I would move the crab
to your sump as long as there is nothing there which it could hurt or
hurt it. Most crabs, unlike me, aren't terribly picky eaters. So bits of
meaty foods should work. I would put a little rubble rock in your sump
so the crab has some shelter.
Thanks a million, you people live rock!!!!!!!
<Heehee!>
Poma
<Cheers,
Mich>
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Interesting Crab Found in My Lunch: Oyster Crab - 11/15/08
Hey Crew. <Hi Andy> I bought some Blue Point Oysters today and, upon
opening one up, found the attached crab in the oyster. <Neat> I've seen
these before, but this one was alive. I took a few shots of it and thought I'd
share. I have no idea what kind of crab it is, but I thought it was interesting.
Blue Points are from the Long Island Sound in New York. Enjoy. <Thanks! It's
very likely Pinnotheres ostreum, a type of pea crab, sometimes called an oyster
crab. They're commensals that live in the mantle cavity of bivalves and are
supposedly brownish-green in color, although they turn red when cooked (like
lobsters and other crustaceans). Please Google the above scientific name and/or
�oyster crab� for more information regarding these neat little creatures:
http://wetwebmedia.com/Googlesearch.htm > Andy
<Take care, Lynn>
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Re:
Interesting Crab Found in My Lunch: Oyster Crab - 11/17/08
Thanks, Lynn. <It was a pleasure, Andy.> Yep, from my searches, it
does appear to be a Pea Crab. Looked exactly like the picture here:
http://www.dnr.sc.gov/marine/sertc/images/photo%20gallery/Zaops%20ostreum%20in%20oyster.jpg
<Yes, they're odd but at the same time neat looking little creatures. By
the way, I was looking around for more information today on this crab
and found that the species name I gave you (Pinnotheres ostreum) has
been reclassified as Zaops ostreum. Pinnotheres is considered a synonym
but Zaops is the currently accepted genus.> Not that it matters, but
I noticed that when you posted my query on WWM, the pictures weren't
attached. <Yes, and I apologize for that. I'm not sure what
happened.> Take care, and thanks again/as always. Andy <You're
very welcome. Take care, Lynn> |
Weird flat spider thing
10/17/08
Guys, the information on this site is outstanding. My uncle was a Nat Geo marine
photographer, and he seems to of passed the fascination on to me. I trolled your
site but can't find what I'm looking for. Hope you can give me some clues to
research <OK.> I just got home and the light timer hadn't been
working...... which is another story. I got some awesome live rock from
Queensland with a huge amount of life forms in it. All sorts of worms, crabs,
tiny star fish, different slugs, crazy looking fungus and sponges, things that
squirt stuff.... too much to mention. Anyway, enough boasting. I turned the
lights on and there was this huge dark coloured flat creature with a centre
piece, maybe 1.5inch to 2inch with between 6 - 8 hairy legs coming from the
centre, that got thinner towards the ends. I guess the total diameter of the
creature was about 6 - 8inch. It's ran away quickly a bit like an Octopus might.
<Hmm... without a photo, obviously difficult to out a name to this.> Any
ideas? <Do review the genus Percnon, particularly Percnon gibbesi, a very
common "stowaway" in reef tanks. It's very flattened, has long legs, and up to a
point is amphibious. It's an invasive species, and has recently appeared in the
Mediterranean.> Many thanks <Cheers, Neale.>
Mystery coralline-eating crab –
10/10/08
Hi there!
<Howsit Juli?>
Thanks for working to educate us newbies!
We have had a 50 gallon saltwater aquarium set up for about 6 months now with
live sand, live rock, 2 ocellaris clowns, a Longnose Hawkfish, and a royal
gramma Basslet. We also added an assortment of hermit crabs, snails, and a
cleaner shrimp before realizing that the crabs were probably not the best idea.
<Surprised the Hawk has not consumed most all the crustaceans here>
However, the ones we purchased (red-legged, dwarf yellow tip, dwarf blue leg)
are small and do not seem to be causing issues as of yet. Our last purchase a
couple months ago were two pieces of live rock with mushroom corals attached...
and apparently, a "cling on"... while looking after the lights went out one
night, we discovered a small (maybe 1/2 inch?) hairy crab lurking under one of
the rocks! I searched the site and found an obscure reference to one bearing
similarities
(http://photos1.blogger.com/photoInclude/hello/252/1727/640/DeadCrab.jpg) but
it's not an exact match.
<Mmm, the shape overall, the darkened tips of the claws... a member of the
family Xanthidae... Mud crab/s... predaceous>
Over several nights, I observed this crab moving sand
around underneath the mushroom rock and several adjacent ones and it only
appears to be eating coralline algae.
<Mmm, and likely more>
I have witnessed this behavior, where it breaks a chunk of rock off with one of
its claws (they are the same size) and sends grains of rock flying. The carapace
itself appears to be purplish coralline in color and the legs are whitish, bumpy
and fuzzy.
<Beautiful. Good description>
Its eye stalks are black and so far, the thing is only active after the lights
go out. Sorry I couldn't get a pic, this little guy is definitely camera shy. If
you can give any ideas or direction, we would greatly appreciate your help!
<Mmm, nothing more than a cursive review of our Crab ID FAQs:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/swcrabidfaqs.htm
and the many in the series linked above... This one... not a worry/problem until
it's eating, destroying too much... at which point, you might want to bait/trap
and remove it to elsewhere. Bob Fenner>
Re: Mystery coralline-eating crab
10/11/08
Bob,
Thanks so much! After searching under Xanthidae/mud crab, I most definitely
think it's in that family. We are planning to upgrade to a 120 gallon tank in
the next few months, so will be perfect timing to remove this guy and send him
back to the LFS.
Regards,
Juli
<Ah good. Cheers, BobF>
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Hitchhiker Crab ID: Need More
Information – 10/8/08
Hello,
<Hi there!>
I wondered if you could identify this crab?
<I hope so! That's an interesting little crab you’ve got there. Is there any way
you could get a photo showing the entire top of the crab/carapace and all legs
(as detailed as possible)? I need a bit more information to help narrow down the
possibilities. Also, do you know where the crab came from?>
Thank you in advance~
<You’re very welcome. –Lynn>
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Re:
Hitchhiker Crab ID: Need More Information – 10/8/08
<Hello again>
No sorry, that's the most I have ever seen of him.
<Well, I can sure understand. I have a crab that likes to play hide and
seek with me as well. I know what species it is, but I’ve never been
able to get a good photo of it. Your success is a testament to your
patience and skills with a camera!>
He usually just sticks the smaller of the two arms out and picks stuff
of the rocks.
<Yep, it’s one of those “form follows function” things. That’s a perfect
little claw for delicate picking. The other claw looks capable of taking
on larger items, or it could be mainly used in defense/dominance
displays, attracting a mate, or a combination of all of the above. I
just don’t know.>
I will try to take some more pictures tonight.
<Thanks! If you can, I sure would appreciate it. I really need to see
the overall shape of the top of the carapace (looking straight down on
it) and to confirm the number of walking legs on each side (are there 3
or 4?). One thing for sure is that it definitely is an interesting
little thing. There aren’t all that many fully marine crabs (if yours is
indeed a fully marine species) that have claws of such different size
like that. You see it regularly in land and fiddler crabs, but not so
much otherwise.>
I haven't confirmed yet, but I think I may have two or more now... I'm
not sure where he came from, he was in my live rock when I got it. The
live rock I used came into my local fish store when a customer traded it
in for store credit. I'm assuming he had it in an established tank for
some time but it could have also crawled into my LR while it was in the
store.
<Yep, at this point it could have come from just about anywhere. That
sort of thing happens all the time. No worries though, we’ll see what we
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Crab ID: Xanthid - 10/3/08
Dear crew (particularly Lynn!) --
<Hi there Jonathan, what can I do for you today?>
Just pulled out yet another hitchhiker crab from my live rock.
<Neat!>
Granted, this is old live rock that I've had for a while, so I'm a bit
angry that there are still crabs coming out of it!
<It happens. Crabs are good at hiding and many are nocturnal so it’s
easy for the small ones to go unnoticed.>
Oh well, it's better than everything being dead.
<Absolutely!>
Found this guy when I saw his arm come swinging out of his hole at a
blue gudgeon goby of mine,
<Uh-oh!>
so I think I caught him at the right time!
<Yepper>
I believe, from the black claws and shape, that he's a Xanthid crab of
some sorts.
<I agree. It does indeed look like a Xanthid of some sort. I took a
close look at the photos you sent and saw little hairs on the crab’s
legs. Unfortunately, that doesn’t narrow the choices down greatly, but
with the hairs and the shape of the claws and carapace, it could be
something in the genus Chlorodiella. Here’s an example:
http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/reefs/guamimg/crustacea/xanthidae/Pages/Image7.html
>
He's been banished to the refugium along with a gorilla crab I found
not that long ago, so they can be cuddle buddies.
<Sounds good.>
Attached are a few photos.
<Thanks!>
Thanks,
Jonathan
<You’re very welcome. Take care, -Lynn>
Re: Crab ID: Xanthid - 10/4/08
<Hi there, Jon!>
That, to me, is 100% the crab, Lynn.
<Yay! I’m not 100% sure, but it’s at least fairly close. The problem with these
guys is that the differences can be very slight between one genus/species and
another. It can be anything from the number of spines on the side of the
carapace to subtle differences in the claws, etc. You really need to have the
specimen right in front of you to see all the pertinent little details. From
what I could see in the photos, Chlorodiella looked the closest overall. The
species in this genus have the same rather flattened “face” area, wide-spaced
eyes, as well as the same general (blunt-ish) claws and carapace shape (with
spines). What I haven’t seen in this genus is a species with spines on its claw
arms like I see in yours. Unfortunately, there aren’t available photos for every
species of crab, and new species are always coming up, so I just can’t be sure.>
I believe you hit the nail right on the head. The pictures are a bit dark mainly
since I didn't bother to color correct for a snapshot of a crab, but the
markings and everything on that crab in your example seems to be "it"!
<Yep, it’s close, anyway! Bottom line is that it’s definitely a Xanthid of some
sort.>
Are Chlorodiella crabs usually pretty destructive in reef tanks (I would guess
they are by the site of how big my boy was!)?
<That I don’t know. I’ve looked around, but can’t find any information regarding
their diet. Since most crabs are omnivorous though and Xanthids tend to be
carnivorous, you can bet that the larger these crabs get, the more threat they
pose to fish, etc – not to mention the possibility of one rearranging your
rockwork! You did a good thing getting him out of there!>
Thanks again for the ID.
- Jon
<It was my pleasure, Jon. Have a great weekend! –Lynn>
Re: Crab ID: Xanthid –
10/5/08
One further question, Lynn...
<Fire away, Jon :)>
Who are you taking in a fight: Gorilla crab VS Chlorodiella crab?
<Heheeee! Discounting the obvious home tank advantage for the Gorilla, I
think it’s going to come down to weight class. I have a feeling that the
newcomer (the Chlorodiella in the striped trunks) is probably a bit
smaller/lighter than the resident Gorilla crab, so the advantage goes to
the larger/heavier opponent. If, however, they’re both in the same
weight class, the odds change. Both Xanthids would have similar reaches,
reflex speeds, and fancy footwork potential, so as long as both are
healthy and not in the middle of a molt, the odds would be fairly even.
The good news is that if one looses an appendage in the “Rumble in the
Refugium”, it’ll grow back within a couple of molts!>
I think I need to videotape this and put it on Pay-Per-View. Could
generate more ratings than Kimbo Slice!
<Ahhh, if only!>
- Jon
<Enjoy! –Lynn>
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