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FAQs About Turtle Systems: Heat/ing
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Amphibians, Red
Eared Slider Care, The
Care and Keeping of the Red Eared Slider,
Trachemys scripta elegans by
Darrel Barton,
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Map Turtle Queries
8/30/07
Hi,
<Hiya right back! -- Darrel here>
I'm just curious if I am caring for my Mississippi Map Turtle, as best I can? I
got him in March and researched thoroughly beforehand and afterwards but still
some things I'm unsure about.
<Wow! Just researching before you obtain makes you special, Melissa! Congrats>
He currently has a large 3ft x 2ft x 2ft tank (I don't know how many gallons of
water it holds, but takes ages to clean!), even though he's only approx 4.5
inches long from tail to head. We have just upgraded his tank as he's grown from
1 inch to 4.5 inches in just 6 months!! (..is that right for a Map Turtle?)
<That's fast .... way too fast. Map Turtles are actually one of the more
slow-growing turtles>
The tank is set up with gravel lining the bottom, sloping up to where the
basking rock is placed, with UV lighting which is lit for about 8 hours a day.
The water is heated to approx 90F and to the touch is always lukewarm. The water
is also filtered and pumped around the tank, which is filled with water to the
depth of about 8 inches.
<everything you have there is PERFECT ..... except the water. Turn the heater
OFF. Any room temperature YOU can stand is good for him. The point is to offer
cool water and a warm rock and let him choose between the two. With the water at
90 degrees you have his metabolism in over-drive and that's why he's growing so
fast.>
My main concern is with his diet, I feed him in the morning and some extra food
sticks through the day if he's searching the gravel. I give him about 10 food
sticks each morning and if they haven't all been munched by about 15 minutes, I
clear any that are left. I do give him washed, small pieces of lettuce and
cucumber (without the skin) but I'm not sure if these are okay? Therefore I only
feed him this once a week (although he seems to like it!) Would you suggest he
needs more/less green veg?
<They are omnivorous, Melissa and eat almost whatever is offered. The food
sticks are just fine -- as I wrote in an article (I'm sending you the link) I've
raised sliders, maps and cooters from hatchlings to breeders on nothing but Koi
food. Just like your food sticks, it's nutritious, plenty of vegetable matter
and just a fine food.>
I am quite squeamish, and couldn't chop up live earthworms, or watch him eat a
goldfish, so will he be okay just with food sticks and some veggies
occasionally? Or are there less 'messy' live foods I could give him that are
suitable for a Map Turtle?
<Goldfish aren't all that good a food for them anyway. And they don't taste very
good, either. Er..... ah .... um .... so I hear. If you feed him an earthworm
every so often, don't chop it -- just put it in there and walk away.>
He is a lovely turtle and I want to make sure I'm doing the best I can to take
care of him, He is healthy and does the usual "begging" every morning, splashing
water loads at about 6am!! He's definitely got us well trained! Even though he
can make a racket and takes time to clean, I love him to bits! Any help or
advice would be great to help my turtle, "Squirt", live the best life possible!
(Sorry for the massive email!)
<Melissa -- you're doing GREAT except for the heat thing, which I'm sure you'll
correct. Down below is a general outline on the water turtles (sliders, etc.)
and the main addition with regard to Map turtles -- is water quality. They are
far more susceptible to disease and debilitation from substandard water than
most of the rest of them, so keep cleaning that tank and tending to that
filter.>
Many Thanks
<You are most welcome!>
Melissa Tostevin (UK)
<Darrel Barton (Torrance, California, USA)>
<By the way, Melissa, I used my Word Editor to add a LOT of apostrophes to your
letter. Is there a shortage of them in the Old Empire?>
Heated Turtles 6/29/07
Hello
<Hello back to you>
I just recently bought two baby turtles and provided them with everything. I
have an aquarium heater which keeps the water temp to ~78 Fahrenheit. The
basking area is set to 85-90 F. The problem is that my turtles don't seem to
bask a lot anymore. They spend a lot of the time in the water swimming, even
sleeping in the water. I just wanted to know if this was healthy. They are both
eating regularly and seem healthy. If there's something wrong with them, can you
provide some suggestions as to what I can do to make it better.
<Yes, I can. The water temperature is too warm and this dampens their desire to
bask. Unfortunately, without drying off it subjects them to opportunistic fungal
and bacterial infections that take root in the constantly wet skin. The water
temperature should be no warmer than 73 degrees. In fact, if you have the
turtles indoors you should probably take the heater out altogether. Unless their
water temperature drops below 60 degrees, they can regulate their heat just by
swimming or basking -- and the risk of them getting burned on the heater is
greater than the value of heating the water. SO .... just unplug the heater and
see how they respond over the next 7 days>
Thanks
<Yer Welcome, Darrel>
Slider Care Continued 7.24.05
Thanks for replying.
Yes, the water is deep enough so that the water covers his back. About 3
quarters of a inch above his back. So do you think that the temperature of
the water in the day time(76-78F) is a good temp. for a young slider turtle?
What about the night time temp. (about 72F). I have to turn the lamp off, so the
temp. goes way down. Is that too low of a temp. to keep the tank at?
<72 is hitting the lower end of the scale, when winter time rolls around this
could definitely become a problem, I would add a small aquarium heater to keep
the tank around 75-78.>
I feed him Reptomin Baby pellets. He gets sun-dried shrimp 3 times a week, the
Reptotreat brand (b/c it's too fatty to feed everyday.) I just started to feed
him gold fish flakes (like 2) once a week. I noticed that on his plastron, he
has pale pink lines (like where the shell seems to join in the middle). When I
lightly touch it, it turns white for like a second and then it turns back to
pink again. It's kind of like when you have a sunburn and touch your skin. I'm
thinking it is because he's growing too fast. When I first got him, I fed him
about 15 pellets 2 times a day. I know that was way too much now, so he only
eats 7 pellets 2 times a day. I heard goldfish food was okay for turtles as a
treat, am I right?
<I have not heard that, I doubt it will hurt him, I like to stick to turtle
food.> So you think in about another year, I'll have to invest in a 20 gallon
tank?
<I say the sooner the better for a few reasons, you will have improved water
quality with a larger body of water, the temperature will be more stable, a
warmer side and cooler side of a tank allows reptiles to thermo regulate as
needed, more room to swim and exercise, and you can provide places for him to
hide. In a year I think he will definitely have outgrown his current tank.> Is
it okay to feed him a blueberry once in a while? <Blueberries should be fine,
you might also mix in some salad greens and freeze dried crickets from time to
time.> He seems to enjoy munching on it throughout the day. Thanks for your
help. Please respond ASAP. Thanks again! Is it too early of an age for him to be
showing mating behaviors? Like wiggling his toes and puffing out his neck? I put
a stuffed animal by the cage and he showed lots of interest in it. <He might be
a little young yet, off the top of my head I cannot recall what age they become
sexually mature. Best Regards, Gage>
First turtle questions 8/2/04
Tomorrow morning I'm going to go pick up my very first turtle (red eared
slider).
The guy at the pet store told me all I need was a little water and something for
the little guy to crawl up out
of the water on to. This sounded far too simple to me. One would think he'd me
more apt to try to sell me
several things I don't need rather than what I can scrape by with. I've been
online all day looking up information to ease my anxieties and make sure I can make my little turtle happy. He's
about the size of a half dollar right now, so I bought a 10gal. tank, figuring that should do for now. My question arises
in the lighting and heating deportment.
What is better, a heating lamp or a submersible water heater?
< Always use a lamp and never a heater. When you heat the water it dive up the
humidity in the tank and has been suspected to cause respiratory problems in turtles.>
Also, will a heating lamp take care of his lighting needs, or do I need a
separate light?
< You need at least a incandescent light with a plant light bulb. This bulb most
closely resembles sunlight>
I plan on getting a thermometer to keep track of the temperature. Should I
place that in the water or
near the heating lamp?
< Place it in the water as far away as possible from the lamp.>
And just one more question. Is it alright to turn off the lighting/heating at
night?
< Absolutely. Turtles need to sleep too. Make sure you thoroughly wash your
hands after handling your
turtle so you don't get sick. They have been known to carry diseases when they
are kept in dirty water.-Chuck>
Thanks for your time in easing me "new mommy syndrome" anxieties. ~Lynsey~
Red Ear Sliders
I have had two red ear sliders for about 6 months. They were about quarter
size when I first got them. They seem to being doing well. I am getting ready to
purchase a 90 gallon tank for them. I don't know what kind or equipment I should
get for them,( i.e. filter, lighting, heaters) I currently have a basking light
and a UV light in a 20 gallon tank. I have been doing a lot of reading but can
seem to find any answers. Can you help? Thanks a bunch Joni
>>>Greetings Joni,
Good on ya for taking the time to learn about your charges! These animals need a
warm basking spot which can be provided with a heat lamp. This basking area
should be in the high 80's to low 90's. Water temps should be maintained with an
aquarium heater in the mid 70's. The ambient air temperature of the enclosure
should remain in the low 80's or so. They require UVB exposure, so keep this in
mind when shopping for lights. Now personally, I don't believe these UVB bulbs
on the market are worth the cardboard they're packaged in. My reptiles ALWAYS
get natural sunlight when possible. I would create an outdoor area, or small
enclosure for them to allow them bask during warmer weather. Having said that,
you can use a commercial UVB bulb in the interim. The main heat in the enclosure
can be provided with a ceramic heat element, which may only come on rarely
(hooked to a thermostat) when the basking light is on during the day. At night,
the heater will kick on more often. Thermostats can be purchased at most better
pet stores.
Use 1 or 2 Aquaclear power filters on that tank to filter the water. You need
filters that provide a rapid turnover, and are easy to clean. Canister filters
are appropriate as well.
Does all that make sense? Please feel free to drop me a line back if you need
clarification. Remember, ambient air temps are what the enclosure is generally
kept at. The basking spot is hotter, and the animals should be able to move
around within that spot to thermoregulate. Water temp is separate as well, and
maintained with an aquarium heater.
Good luck
Jim<<<
Water temp too warm on water change
Hi,
I need some answers quickly to this question?
I have 2 red ear sliders that are about 1 year old.
I was changing the water in their tank this evening. I'm afraid that I may
have killed them because the water may have been too warm or hot? I can't tell
because I forgot to test the water's temperature.
when I had them in the water, they were both swimming around very frantically
and I didn't think anything of it since that seemed normal whenever I moved them
into the temp container while I washed the tank. but, they both stopped moving
suddenly and have not moved for at least an hour:
Nothing seems to affect them right now. Their heads are shrunk in towards the
shell but, still outside of the shell and visible. The eyes are closed. All
four legs are pointing outwards but, no sign of movement at all
Please advise??
Thank You!!
<Hello, I am really sorry to hear this. If the water was too hot it is possible
that they were killed. The best thing to do would be to restore the water to
the temperature that they were used to and see if they come around. If you pick
them up you could try to see if you can hear them breathing, also a light poke
behind the legs with your finger, or anywhere under the shell that they would
normally defend should get some reaction out of them. Best of luck, Gage>
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