|
| |
|
FAQs on Red Devil Cichlids: Systems Related Articles: Red Devils, Texas Cichlids, Firemouths, Oscars, Neotropical
Cichlids, African Cichlids, Dwarf
South American Cichlids, Cichlid Fishes in
General, Cichlid Systems,
Cichlid Identification,
Cichlid Behavior,
Cichlid Compatibility, Cichlid Selection,
Cichlid Feeding,
Cichlid Disease, Cichlid
Reproduction,
Related FAQs: Red Devils
1, Red Devils 2, &
Red Devils
Identification, Red Devils Behavior,
Red Devils Compatibility,
Red
Devils Selection, Red Devils Feeding,
Red Devils
Health, Red Devils Reproduction, & Neotropical Cichlids 1, Cichlids of the World,
|
|
Quick red devil question
Hi - I hope it's Ok for me to drop an email with a quick question. I'd
really appreciate any insight or advice. I am temporarily moving to
house-sit and am concerned about moving my red devil. The new place is
about a 20 minute drive from my current location. Do you have any thoughts
as to how to make this as smooth as possible for her? Also, do you think
that it would be more traumatic for her to move rather than to let her stay
where she is with a friend who will be living in my apartment? I'd rather
not leave her as the move will be for about 9 months, but I want to do
what's best for her. Many thanks for any info.
< Move and take the red devil with you. Put this fish in a 5 gallon bucket and
cover it so she can't jump out. Move the tank to the new place and set it up.
Make sure the new water is treated for chloramines. Your fish will appreciate
the new water. These fish are pretty indestructible. Thirty years ago I was
moving a red devil in a 5 gallon bucket on the passenger side of my car. I was
forced to hit the brakes and the bucket with the fish spilled onto the
floorboard of my car. The water drained out and I needed some water fast. I
pulled over to a gas station that was closed and filled the bucket up with
radiator water! Cold untreated radiator water. I flopped the fish back in the
bucket and resumed taking it over to my friends house twenty minutes away. I
told him what has happened and we flipped the fish into a waiting 40 gallon
tank. The next day you couldn't tell anything happened at all. It never got
sick. -Chuck>
Re: quick red devil question
Thanks very much! I feel better about the whole thing and will get a
bucket. They must be pretty indestructible. I didn't know that the fish was a
red devil when i acquired her -- thought that she was a small, orange goldfish
and had her living in a container with cold water. Eventually figured out that
she was manipulating objects in the container and that she was much more than a
goldfish. Three tanks (she destroyed one of them) four filters and a couple
heaters later, she's bigger than my hand and behaves more like a pet dog than a
fish. But, especially since I've been picking up info about her as I go along,
there are a few things I'm concerned about...Can I ask you just a few more
questions --
Should I be concerned that she seems to only want to eat pellets and tropical
fish flakes? I put a couple of guppies in the tank once and she ate them, but
she is no longer interested in meat of any kind, it seems.
< The pellets and flake food are much better for her as well as less expensive
too.>
Also, How do I get her in the bucket? Should I use a net?
< Place a black plastic trash bag in an empty five gallon bucket. Fill the five
gallon plastic bucket about two/thirds full of water from the aquarium. Pull the
excess bag to the top. Catch the fish in a large suitable net and place her in
the bucket. Then tie the top of the trash bag close to the top of the bucket to
prevent her from jumping out as well as spilling any water. When the new tank is
set up then take the net and place her in the new tank.>
And, finally, she used to lay eggs and hasn't for a while. Does this have to do
with natural aging or is it because of some kind of ph imbalance in the tank? Or
general unhappiness?
< It means that she is in very good shape and is in condition to breed. Good
food and clean water has her primed to spawn but she unfortunately has no male
to spawn with so she still has to lay her eggs to get rid of them. As she has
matured she will not waste anymore energy on egg production until she has paired
up.-Chuck>
Thanks again.
Kate
10" Red Devil + 55 Gallon Tank = More Fish? Maybe not...
Is there any type of cichlid I can put in with my Red Devil?
<Depends on the nature and size of the Devil.>
He is about 10 inches long.
<Well that narrows down the possibilities.>
He is in a 55 gallon tank.
<...And that pretty much kills them.>
Do you think I can put another Red Devil in with him?
<I don't think you could put much of anything else in with him. a 10 inch cichlid in a 55 gallon tank is already pushing it in regards to bioload. I'd leave it be until you get a larger tank.>
Thanks for answering my question.
<No problem, glad I could be of assistance. Mike G>
The Devils in the Details 9/19.5/05
Hi there! Have found your site to be most informative. Thanks for being
there for us. We've had a small starter tank (10 galls) for about a year now. We
bought several fish as we learned, and only our Red Devil has survived all of
our stupid mistakes. <Guppies and Neons go missing?> He's about 6-8 inches now
and has become rather cramped in the tank. We really enjoy his obvious
intelligence and fun personality. He eats right out of our hands...and is always
waiting eagerly for his next meal. After much discussion, we've decided to
expand our tropical fish hobby, and went out this morning and purchased a nice
80 gallon tank. This fish was purchased from a pet store and has lived with
other cichlids in the past, so we know he can get along with others (although
he's been living alone for awhile now). Our question is this. We want to
introduce new fish into the new aquarium....maybe 5 or 6 others that would be
comparable sized fish at full term. We are basing this whole new environment
around our beloved Red Devil. Knowing that he is one of the "milder tempered"
Devils <There is a reason they are called Devils> what sorts of fish would you
recommend as being most compatible? (we want them all to survive and "just get
along"). We know we have to introduce the Devil as the last fish to the
tank...but want to get started on putting together his new neighborhood as soon
as we can! Thanks...we look forward to your advice!
<First and foremost...Do a fishless cycle on this new system before you stock.
Read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwestcycling.htm This will take
about six weeks to complete. The cycling that is, not the reading. Please forget
about him being "mild tempered". He's now maturing and chances are he will be
anything but mild. But each fish does have his own personality. The way he
interacts with you may be quite different than the way he treats an intruder in
this space. So he's going to need large, sturdy tankmates. And as big as that 80
looks, it will not handle him and another five or six like him. Two or three
max. Four fish would give each one 20 gallons. Not really enough for a large,
messy, aggressive cichlid. As to species, well what can I say. There is always a
danger when housing large cichlids. Again, it may come down to the personality
more than the species. But two of my favorites would be a Green Terror or a Jack
Dempsey. And a great big Pleco, of course. Don>
The Devils in the Details-part 2 9/21/05
Thank you, Don for your lightning fast response (Do you EVER sleep?!?!)
<Just started a new job. Second shift. So the answers is NO> and excellent, much
appreciated advise. We agree with you that the Jack Dempsey and especially the
Pleco are great choices. We've had both of those in our tank before. The Pleco's
get quite large, don't they? I'm not even sure what a Green Terror is but it
sounds like a great match for a Red Devil! *heheh* (Kinda sounds like Christmas
gone terribly wrong! *L*). I'll do some research on them. We never had Neons or
guppies in the tank as you suggested, thank goodness. Lucky for us we knew our
fish was somewhat aggressive from the get-go so we tried to match him with
similarly aggressive cichlids. For whatever reasons, the Devil survived (he
seems VERY hardy!) while the others met their demise. (I'm sure this was because
of our inexperience). We really appreciate your expert advice, We didn't know
we'd have to wait 6 weeks to acclimate the tank. But we want to do it right and
have great success without suffering any discouraging loses, especially with
fish the size we'll need to be working with here. That's exactly why we're doing
our homework in advance. Just one more question, and I know the answer will be a
ballpark one. When we purchased our fish as fledglings, they were small and so
was the price. (Between $8 and $12 dollars each.) What can we expect to pay for
larger, more seasoned fish that will be able to survive the onslaught this 8"
Devil may just attempt to dish out? I expect the pricing for the more mature
fish will be "steep"?? Thanks again for your help! You are awesome, and have
some new fans here. All the best.
Kirk and Misty
<First thing is to read here on bio filtration, or "cycling".
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwestcycling.htm I understand why
you may think it's better to add the Devil last, but I wouldn't. After the tank
is cycled get him in there and use the 10 to QT a new fish for a few weeks. You
really do not want to take a chance on getting Ich (or worse!) into a new big
tank. It's almost expected that new fish will have Ich. Easy to cure in a 10, a
real hassle in the 80 as many 50% water changes will be needed. Notice I said "a
new fish". Stock these big guys one at a time to allow your bio filtration to
adjust. One a month, max. I'd also pick up a tank divider, just in case a fight
breaks out. As to stocking suggestions, yes the Common (15 inches or so) and
Sailfin (20 inch monsters!) Plecos will get big. But so is an 80 gallon tank.
You can handle one as long as you do not overstock the cichlids. There are many
species that get to a foot or so. Planetcatfish.com is the site for all things
concerning catfish. Aquabid.com a great place to find them for sale. (If you
join us in the forums, click on my username, Fish Soup, for my Plec pics.) I
call a Green Terror a "Jack on Acid." Close in size, shape but even more
colorful. A mature male GT is stunning. As to price, it may not be as bad as you
think. Of course if you use Aquabid there will be shipping charges to add to
your total cost. But many LFS take in large fish that have outgrown their
owner's tanks. You can sometimes get them for a song. I have seen 12" Common
Plecos for as little as $10. But most mature cichlids will be a bit pricey. But
rarely over $30 or $40. Small market as it is. Increase the price too much and
they wouldn't sell at all. Good luck. Don, the Exhausted One>
Red Devil Tank Size 5/27/06
I love the site and know you could answer this.
<Hi there - this is Jorie! Glad to hear you like the site, and I sure will try
to help out.>
I've got a Red Devil and everything's going great...water, food, etc. I have him
in a 55 gallon tank.
<This is too small. What else do you have in the tank?>
They say a minimum tank size for a Red Devil is 55 gallons?
<Not quite sure who the ubiquitous "they" is, but I dare say "they" are
wrong. This type of cichlid is classified as a "large" fish, and depending upon
what other livestock you are housing, I would say an absolute minimum tank size
is 125 gal.>
Will he still grow to his full potential size in this tank if he is healthy?
<No - keeping a large fish in a tank that is too small can result in stunting at
minimum, and can cause greater health problems as well. Not to mention it is
just plain cruel. Ever see the movie "Boxing Helena?">
Great if you could get back to me. Thank you.
<You're welcome. If you want to let us know what all fish you have, we could
better help you pick an appropriate size tank for everybody! Good luck, and
thanks for caring enough to ask...Jorie>
| |
|