
|
|
FAQs about Stands, Supports for Aquariums: Commercial
Related Articles: Aquarium Stands,
Marine Tanks, Canopies, Covers &
Lighting Fixtures, Related FAQs:
Aquarium Stands 1, Aquarium Stands 2,
What to Use, About Floors Underneath,
DIY, Finishing/Coating,
Leveling, Modification,
Repair, & Tanks,
Tanks 2, Tanks 3, Tanks
4, Aquarium Repair 1,
Acrylic Aquarium Repair, Used
Aquarium Gear, | 
|
125 Gallon All-Glass and Stand Question 9/10/07 Hello,
<Ben> I recently came across your site and found that it contained
many interesting answers to aquarium questions. However while I saw a
few answers that brushed upon my subject I wanted to get a clearer
answer. <Okay> I recently purchased a 125 gallon All Glass
Aquarium with a black pine stand manufactured from the same company. The
stand at first glance appears to be sturdy but knowing that a tremendous
amount of weight will be applied to this stand, <More than a thousand
pounds... with the gravel et al. considered, aquarium systems weigh in
at about ten pounds per gallon> I had to look closer. The stand is
resting on a concrete floor and all sides are level, however when I look
inside the cabinets, I noticed some of the pine boards have vertical
hair line cracks. <Mmmm... the boards as in the panels? But not the
structural elements? The uprights?> Is this something I should be
worried about? <Possibly if it is the functional elements involved>
I have had 100 gallons in it for 48 hours and there has been no shift in
level and the cracks have not grown in size. I guess I am looking for
some reassurance that this tank will rest on the stand for a long time
to come and not end up on the floor. Have you ever heard of these
stands failing? <Extremely rare for commercial stands to fail>
Regards, Benjamin Schmaus <A pic or two please. Bob Fenner>
Questionable Tank Seam/Packing Material Left On The Stand – 06/06/07
Hi, <<Howdy Steve>> I really enjoy the website. <<Thanks…me
too!>> I've recently purchased a new 115-gal aquarium and after
letting it sit for two weeks to make sure it was fully cured I test
filled. <<I see>> No leaks were evident, but I do have a
suspect seam. <<Uh-oh>> When empty all seams are clear and
look acceptable. When filled however, one seam has a fairly large
white area that extends approximately 8mm into the 12mm glass
thickness for about 12" of the seam. <<Mmm…>> I'll attach a
few pics to clarify. <<I see these... I’ll ask Bob to interject
if he feels differently, but it certainly looks to me like you may
have an issue with the seal…especially considering this only shows
when the tank is full of water>> Of course my main concern is
that it could be a void in the silicone that may eventually lead to
a failure at the seam. <<Agreed>> I contacted both the
manufacturer and the store I purchased it from and they both said if
it isn't leaking now its fine. <<Bunk…>> After expressing
concern about the issue they finally agreed that the seam could be
redone in the store, but acted like I was being unreasonable.
<<Mmm, a shame>> I'm not sure I'm comfortable with an in-store
quick fix that they don't believe is even necessary in the first
place. <<I’m with you on this…perhaps you can send these pics to
the manufacturer for their edification and press this issue with
them>> I also had a question on the stand. <<Okay>> It's
designed to only support the ends of the tank and is actually raised
1/8" on each end so that the aquarium doesn't touch the stand at all
in the middle. <<This is not right…I suspect there is something
amiss with the stand>> The entire aquarium is supported by 2" on
either end. <<Ah yes, I see this in the photos. This looks to be
a bit of “hardboard” material…perhaps leftovers from the
shipping/packing material. Do see if you can remove this>> I've
heard about large aquariums being supported mainly in the corners,
but never seen it taken to the extreme of having the free floating
center section. <<This glass tank needs to be supported along its
“entire perimeter”>> I really appreciate your help and advice.
I'm just afraid if I flood the house and ruin our floors my wife
will be forever against having another large aquarium. <<Mmm…that
sounds familiar…>> I do understand how she feels, but the fish
need room to roam. <<Much agreed…and you do have some issues to
reconcile re this tank and stand before you can proceed any
further>> Thanks, Steve <<Hope I’ve been of help. EricR>>
Re: Questionable Tank Seam/Packing Material Left On The Stand –
06/07/07 Thanks for the prompt reply Eric. <<You’re
welcome Steve>> Both the store and tank manufacturer were adamant
that the wood strips on the ends are in fact part of the design.
<<You spoke with the manufacturer yourself?>> Their explanation
was that it prevents pressure points on the long side that can lead
to failure on larger, taller tanks. <<Mmm, not if the stand is
flat and planar...as it should be. I have never before seen nor
heard of supporting a glass tank “only by the ends”... So this
manufacturer states this tank is meant to hold water; with no
support from the stand other than the two-inch wide strip across
each end, by the strength of the bottom glass panel and silicone
seal alone?!>> The store further said that the tank is designed
to be loaded on the corners. <<...! >> They've been making
tanks for over 30 years, but it certainly seems odd. <<To me as
well>> Do any other manufacturers make stands that only support
the ends of the tank? <<None “I” am aware of...Bob?>> I got a
call back from the LFS today, and they spoke to the owner of the
aquarium company. He reassured me that the white streak in the seam
would not be a problem. <<It is not my intent to cast dispersions
on your LFS, but were this my tank/stand, I would want to talk to
the manufacturer myself>> My Oscars are rapidly out growing their
current tank, and I need to find some resolution to these issues.
Now I'm more concerned about the stand than the seam. <<I’m
racking my brain but can’t recall a similar situation in “my” more
than 30 years in the hobby, but I will ask that Bob add his
comments/opinions here (do check the daily FAQs). His exposure in
the hobby/trade is much broader than mine, perhaps he can either
allay or confirm your (and my) fears re this setup. Regards, EricR>> |  |  |
Need Your Wisdom/Experience – 06/07/07 Hi Bob, I've made two
replies to a query with the title "Aquarium Seam" in the 'sent'
folder that I would appreciate if you could review and add your
thoughts. The Chap who wrote in has a tank that has what appears to
be a void in a seam that only "shows" when water is added to the
tank. <Yikes... this very often is evidence of a poorly made
seam, and a small air gap... that gets much larger with vacuum...>
But the real puzzler (for me) is the tank's stand. The stand "only"
supports the 115-gallon glass tank for about two-inches at "each
end." Supposedly, the manufacturer and store owner through which the
tank was purchased, are adamant this is how the setup was designed
to be used. Is this feasible/practical in the long term? <Mmmm,
is... IF the stand is otherwise (very) strong, planar and level...
HOWEVER if it is not so in any of these three ways AND/OR some
challenge (a big bump, earthquake, floor settling...) occur, can be
HUGE trouble. In actuality on the rim/edge of most tanks "touch" the
stand... and this touching area is all that needs to be Strong,
Planar, Level... BUT there being "more" to the stand provides the
stability and strength to this setting-edge area...> I'm much
interested in your take on this. Many thanks, Eric <Will do.
BobF> | Re: Need Your
Wisdom/Experience –
06/07/07 Hi Bob, I've made two replies to a query
with the title "Aquarium Seam" in the 'sent' folder that I would
appreciate if you could review and add your thoughts. The Chap
who wrote in has a tank that has what appears to be a void in a
seam that only "shows" when water is added to the tank.
<Yikes... this very often is evidence of a poorly made seam, and
a small air gap... that gets much larger with vacuum...> But
the real puzzler (for me) is the tank's stand. The stand "only"
supports the 115-gallon glass tank for about two-inches at "each
end." Supposedly, the manufacturer and store owner through which
the tank was purchased, are adamant this is how the setup was
designed to be used. Is this feasible/practical in the long
term? <Mmmm, is... IF the stand is otherwise (very) strong,
planar and level... HOWEVER if it is not so in any of these
three ways AND/OR some challenge (a big bump, earthquake, floor
settling...) occur, can be HUGE trouble. In actuality on the
rim/edge of most tanks "touch" the stand... <<This I
understand...but I have always thought the tank "needed" to be
supported around/along the "entire perimeter." Eric>> >Yikes!
I see this statement now... A BIG NO to this proposal... Had
mis-read that the entire edge was to be supported. I would NOT
fill a container thus supported (only on both ends). BobF<
and this touching area is all that needs to be Strong, Planar,
Level... BUT there being "more" to the stand provides the
stability and strength to this setting-edge area...> I'm much
interested in your take on this. Many thanks, Eric <Will
do. BobF> | | And now having
placed the images... This IS a stand that supports all edges...
and for the stand-only sakes will likely be fine. HOWEVER, I
would NOT fill or keep this tank with the apparent seam
problem... Too likely to "pop". BobF |
Re: Aquarium Seam, Stand - 6/7/07 Thanks so much for your
input Bob. The stand certainly appears to be a conventional "full
perimeter" style, but there are two thin strips of wood(1/8" x 3" x
19") at each end that actually elevate the tank 1/8" above the stand
itself and provide the sole support for the tank. I made yet another
call to the manufacturer today, and once again they confirmed that
it was in fact the way they intended the tank and stand to be
configured. Another interesting note is that the back of the tank
has no center support along the entire 50" length, further
suggesting that it was in fact designed to support the tank in this
manor. The store specifically told me not to add a center support!
I'll attach a pic of the end strips to clarify. <I see this...
and do NOT like what I see... There is certainly (daily...) items I
am unfamiliar with... but this has me stymied... I REALLY am
concerned re this design... And am requesting that you get contact
info. re the actual manufacturer of this stand, contact them and/or
pass on to me for my contacting them... and GET express warrantee re
this stand... On an entirely separate issue: I personally would NOT
fill this tank period... until I had the FULL assurance of someone
with structural engineering's okay... and would NOT keep this
particular tank nor fill it for fear of catastrophic seam failure.
The images previously sent show a VERY DANGEROUS gapping in the
Silastic. Bob Fenner> | 
|
All Glass Tank, Perfecto Stand? 3/20/07 Hey All.
<Hi, Eric. GrahamT with you this morning.> Just a quick question.
<Ok.> I have a 75 gallon Perfecto tank and pine stand. I would like
to get a drilled tank, but use the same stand. Would it be possible to
get a drilled All Glass 90 gallon with the same footprint to fit on the
Perfecto stand? <Don't see why not.> My LFS says
maybe, maybe not, only adding to my confusion. They claim that there
may be small enough differences in design, even though both tanks are 48
x 18, that may cause different branded stands not to fit. <You are
not likely to have problems, unless your current tank and stand
combination has the tank sitting inside a lip. You *might* find that the
AG tank has thicker glass, and won't fit as a result. Otherwise, I would
think you'd be fine. This is really all that I can think of, and
assuming your stand requires the tank to sit on top, then you would be
fine anyway.> Like always, You Rock. <Aww, shucks.> Thanks,
Eric <Welcome. -GrahamT>
Aquarium Support 11/8/04 I am currently working through my 2nd
Year on Advanced Certificate in anagement of Zoo Animals and am
currently having difficulty finding information regarding one of the
Tasks that I need to complete. After visiting your website, I was
wondering if you had any information that would be relevant to my Task.
The Task requires me to describe support structures that would be
adequate to support the following sizes of aquarium :- a) 2m x 0.45
x 0.45m b) 1.5m x 0.3m x 0.3m c) 2.6m x 0.85m x 1m. They
require me to provide 400 words and I am having difficulty finding any
information regarding this. Thank you for taking the time to read this
e-mail, and if you could possibly give me any information towards this
task, I would be extremely grateful. Karen Carter <there is/was
a book called the "Living Aquarium" published at one point in time by
Crescent books/pub. Its available on Amazon.com and other booksellers.
In this book are excellent specs on building and supporting many
different types of aquaria. I would seek this inexpensive and delightful
reference. Anthony>
|
|