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elegance coral acting very strange PLEASE HELP! No useful info., or
reading 7/23/08
Recently purchased an elegance coral and
it looked great for about the first
two days (see the first
picture). On the third day it stayed shriveled up and
never
opened at all. But now for the past two days it has been GIGANTIC
and
SWOLLEN! (see second picture). Please assist as to why it is
behaving this
way. THANKS!
- G
<Uhh, these images show the
colony placed on what appears to be a sterile substrate, and up on
some sort of coral skeleton/rock... You need to read re this species
habitat, care... A link in a bit.
Catalaphyllias do
expand/contract due to certain stimuli... in response to other
Cnidarians, foods, changes in water quality... You present no data
re.
Read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/elegance.htm
and the
linked files above. Bob Fenner> |  
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Re: weird frogspawn coral question... hlth. f' 3/12/08
Hi Bob,
<Ken>
Here is an update on the frogspawn coral situation.
I have discontinued the use of powered aragonite and purple-up in my top
off water.
<Good>
I have reverted back to using my wonderful tap
water, which has a pH of 8.1 and is hard enough to leave lime deposits
on my pot plants.
<Wow! Like ours here in S. Cal... we affectionately
label it "liquid rock">
One of these days I will test the calcium and
KH to see what it is. I do know that there are no excessive phosphate
and nitrate levels in the water. The reservoir the tap water comes from
here is over an ancient limestone deposit which used to be ocean floor;
explains the extreme parameters.
Anyway, back to the coral. Not
wanting to disturb the livestock, I decided to wait a while longer and
see if the frogspawn would improve or start wasting away. The color has
continued to darken and intensify. In my opinion the coral is much
prettier now than when I received it. A few tentacles are still falling
off, but new ones are growing back from the center of the polyps.
<Good signs>
Also, each of the 5 polyps has divided and now has two
mouths. I think it is still too early to make a final decision but I
think it may have been the light causing the weird response. If the new
tentacles start to drop and the coral does not "stabilize", I will most
likely remove the galaxy coral, as I like the frogspawn much better.
<Did you read on WWM re Oculinids... are big winners in the
sting-competition realm>
As for the 40 lbs of live rock, it is the
dense Florida rock, but I do have the tank quite full. You can never
have too much live rock. (I even added another small piece three days
ago with some sort of unidentified SPS coral on it.)
Thank you for
your last response, it was most helpful.
Regards,
Ken
<Welcome!
BobF>
Elegance Coral - secreting white cotton like substance...
11/12/07
Hi,
Thank you for maintaining a very informative site that
provides extremely useful information to beginner like me.
I
recently bought an Elegance coral, I put it on the bottom of the
tank as many of your articles suggested, and I tried to place it as
far away as possible from the lighting. Since I put it in the tank,
it started secreting some white stuff from a few of its mouths. The
white stuff looks like cotton balls, pretty white in color (no brown
stuff so far) and dense, and occasionally white slimy stuff. When I
put the Elegance in the tank, my cleaner shrimp checked it out. It
was pretty detailed,
<?>
and it pushed its claws into each of
the mouths.
I am not sure if it caused the problem. I tried to
search your site, I saw most problems were related to brown stuff,
but mine is white.
The coral never fully opens. Is it some kind
of a disease?
<How long have you had this animal? What other
livestock/cnidarians esp. are present? What re your water quality?
What have you tried feeding it?>
Should I dip it in SeaChem Coral
Dip (the only medication I have now)?
<... no>
I also have an
Open Brain before the Elegance.
<Oh!>
The Open Brain used to
open very well.
<How far away is this colony?>
From the day I
have the Elegance in the water, the Open Brain seems to open less as
large as previously, and it has been hiding its tentacles so far.
<Ah yes>
Is the Elegance secreting some kind of chemical that
affects other corals?
<Oh YES!>
Thanks in advance for your
help!
Simon
<Look on WWM, the wider Net re mesenterial
filaments, sweeper tentacles... of Caryophyliids... compatibility of
Cnidarians... you have a battle going on here. Bob Fenner>
Re: Elegance Coral - secreting white cotton like substance... still
not reading... 11/13/07
> Hi,
> Thank you for
maintaining a very informative site that provides extremely useful
information to beginner like me.
> I recently bought an Elegance
coral, I put it on the bottom of the tank as many of your articles
suggested, and I tried to place it as far away as possible from the
lighting. Since I put it in the tank, it started secreting some
white stuff from a few of its mouths. The white stuff looks like
cotton balls, pretty white in color (no brown stuff so far) and
dense, and occasionally white slimy stuff. When I put the Elegance
in the tank, my cleaner shrimp checked it out. It was pretty
detailed,
> <?>
[The shrimp was all over it including the
mouths. I would be very happy if my clown does the same instead of
the shrimp.
<... no... It would be consumed>
The condition of
the Elegance is getting worse and it is completely closed, some
tentacles are being bitten off by the shrimp and I can see them
floating in the water! I can now see the white stuff between the
skeleton and the flesh. May be I have an aggressive cleaner shrimp.
This is not the first time, I have a frogspawn.
<... ! You
didn't mention this...>
Please forgive my ignorance if I got it
completely wrong. On the frogspawn, there is a small area like a
small volcano. There are some really small tentacles inside it and
they move in and out to drag food inside. The shrimp actually pull
the poor little thing out
<?>
and now I think it is left with
an empty shell, though the frogspawn seems to be ok.]
> and it
pushed its claws into each of the mouths.
> I am not sure if it
caused the problem. I tried to search your site, I saw most problems
were related to brown stuff, but mine is white.
> The coral never
fully opens. Is it some kind of a disease?
> <How long have you
had this animal? What other livestock/cnidarians esp. are present?
What re your water quality? What have you tried feeding it?>
[I
only have it for 3 days. I have a clown, a cleaner shrimp, a
frogspawn, a open brain and a few snails. I also had a Sailfin until
this morning!
<Killed by the stony coral interaction...>
It
was doing very ok on the day I introduced the Elegance. It was very
relax searching for food, it was eating, and it was not shy at all.
Its condition suddenly went very bad, breathing very rapidly and
then died within hours. Could it be the chemical from the Elegance?
<Yes...>
I also noticed the water get a bit foggy during the past
two days. The water parameters was perfect, Ammonia, Nitrite,
Nitrate, Ca, KH, pH are all at the recommended level for reef the
day before I have the Elegance. I can't imagine they can change
drastically within 3 days.]
<Not the root cause here. What is?
Your jamming incompatible life...>
> Should I dip it in SeaChem
Coral Dip (the only medication I have now)?
> <... no>
> I
also have an Open Brain before the Elegance.
> <Oh!>
> The
Open Brain used to open very well.
> <How far away is this
colony?>
[They are at least 6 inches apart. I did not see any
tentacles that
can reach that far.]
<Euphylliids need to be
placed a foot or more apart... their sweeper tentacles can reach
this far... mesenterial filaments can break off, chemical
allelopathy go throughout the system...>
> From the day I have
the Elegance in the water, the Open Brain seems to open less as
large as previously, and it has been hiding its tentacles so far.
> <Ah yes>
> Is the Elegance secreting some kind of chemical that
affects other corals?
> <Oh YES!>
> Thanks in advance for your
help!
> Simon
> <Look on WWM, the wider Net re mesenterial
filaments, sweeper tentacles... of Caryophyliids... compatibility of
Cnidarians... you have a battle going on here. Bob Fenner>
[I
can't deal with chemical warfare in my nano. I just move the
Elegance to a QT and I have to decide the next step. I am not even
sure if it can survive since it is completely close. Another lesson
I guess!
Thanks.]
<... too cavalier. Read here (don't write):
http://wetwebmedia.com/cnidcompppt.htm
and the linked files
above. BobF> |
Elegance Coral Worry...
Worries are a Waste! 1/27/07
Hello Bob,
<Hello
Jason, Mich with you today.>
I hope you can help me out a little bit
here. I just have a question or two for you. Yesterday I received a new
elegance coral, and it acclimated to the tank really well. I did a slow
acclimation over about a two hour period. The coral is about 4 to 5
inches across, with 5 or 6 mouths on it. It truly is a beautiful
specimen. (which is why I bought it)
I have read your home page
article on elegance, and all of the frequently asked questions and
answers. There is some great advice in there, thank you.
<Glad you
found it helpful.>
There is one thing that I saw mentioned in a
couple of places, but no one really asked and you didn't mention it
anywhere, so I am asking, because it is happening to me on day two. my
elegance coral is/has "spit" a blackish/brownish substance from its
mouths.
<Likely waste products... literally potty mouth!>
Now, I
am new to having corals, and I have been afraid to get them, hearing
that they are difficult to take care of, but I decided to get a few,
they were all listed as easy........ I tried to research (as I always do
on everything I do), but I guess this time, I didn't do enough on this
one.
<Research is key to success in this hobby.>
anyways, I
guess my question is, is this black stuff normal? Is it the elegance's
way of getting rid of waste?
<Yes, can be.>
Is it something I
should be concerned about?
because I am worried..... I want the
corals in my tank to thrive, and if they can not thrive, then I would
rather give them to someone or return them to a store that can take care
of them. The other corals I have are a toadstool leather, candy cane
LPS, xenia pulsing, and a bulb anemone.
<Watch the anemone, can
cause big problems when they decide to go for a walk.>
If this
expelling of the black material is normal, then I am happy, but if it
isn't, and I can do something to correct it, please let me know.
<Please correct your lack of capitalization, the first letter of a
sentence is capitalized, I not i please!
I truly
appreciate you taking the time to read this and help me out with any
info you have. Thanks again for all the info on your site that you have
posted, it helps us newbies out a whole lot.
<It is a tremendous,
invaluable resource. Bob has dedicated countless days of his life to
it. I'm glad you have found it useful. Thank you for the kind
words. -Mich>
Jason Muzzey Catalaphyllia
jardinei mucus - 2/4/2006
Hello WWM Crew.
<Angela>
I would not be bothering you with an e-mail, but I am
just packing to leave town and haven't yet found the answer to my
problem on your
Amazing Web Site. I am running out of time. It seems
our Elegant Coral, which we have had for nearly a year, is spewing out a
kind of white
"fluffy" mucus. It doesn't seem to be affecting her
<Will affect your other livestock>
much as she still opens fully
during the lighted hours in our tank. Unfortunately, we have just
recently (about a month ago) lost a Hammer Coral, and half of a
Torch Coral, to a brown jelly infection that did not seem to be
bothering them much until it was too late. (The biggest problem here was
that I had never encountered this infection before and did not notice
that anything was wrong until the jelly actually appeared). I have tried
using a turkey baster to gently blow the mucus off and scoop it out with
a fish net, but I can't get it to come off. I do not want to harass her
unnecessarily Is this mucus a sign of something horrible to come?
<Too likely the latter>
Should I be worried and call off my trip?
<Mmm, no... but I would move/isolate this animal/colony>
I will not
leave her unless I know she is going to be o.k. Thank you so much for
taking the time to read my e-mail and respond
(assuming you have the
time). I think it is wonderful that you all volunteer you precious time
and knowledge to help us all in the never ending pursuit of happy,
healthy reefs.
I eagerly await your response.
Angela
<Glad to share... I
take it you've seen my piece re captive care of this species... I would
move it to "somewhere else"... a planted shallow setting, on the
bottom... if at all possible. Bob Fenner>
Elegance Coral
11/26/03
Hello!
<Hi>
My husband and I have a question about
our Elegance Coral. Normally she has beautiful long green tentacles but
today we noticed that she looks "swollen" so to say, She almost looks
an anemone-as in she is "closing" like an elephant ear when they are
eating. Her tentacles stick out of the center of the
"swollen' body
about 1cm. I've never seen her do this before. Do you know what might
be wrong?
<sounds like a feeding strategy... have you gone light on
feeding it as of late? This is a very needy/hungry coral. They can/will
starve slowly over months if not fed several times weekly>
Also,
there is a tiny patchy of green "hair" coming up out of the sand,
directly next to her. It's only about 1cm high in a group no larger
than a quarter. Do you have any idea what in the world this maybe?
<tough to say without a picture. Do send for ID if you can>
Thanks!
<best regards, Anthony>
Catalaphyllia Elegant coral excretion 6/16/04
I am sorry to
disturbing you,
<no trouble at all my friend>
but I would
truly like to know, if this was spawning occurrence of Catalaphyllia
jardinei. Right after releasing brown eggs (?) most of them
eaten by the maroon
clownfish. Regards, Aleksander
<the excretion was... well...
excrement. You now have the scoop on elegant poop :) And it is very
common for reef animals to eat excrement as it is frankly
nutritious. Many microcrustaceans like some copepods have to make
multiple passes though various digestive systems before they are
adequately broken down for digestion. All good. Anthony> |
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