Zoa Pox Treatment –
05/09/09
Have you any information on treating a reef tank directly with FURAN-2
to treat Zoa pox? any information on the affects on live rock?
<Mmm, yes it can... the route to go here is to place the Zoanthid
colonies in a separate container (outside the system) with some system
water of slightly reduced spg (just add a bit of freshwater), to aid in
absorption... and the Furan-2 made stronger in concentration (250 mg., a
capsule, to a gallon or so) for an immersion bath... then the Zoas
should be rinsed in another separate container of just some more of
their system water before being returned to the main system or better,
moved to another established tank. Bob Fenner>
Thanx Gregory
Nitrofurazone... use, effect on
nitrification 2/14/08
Looked all over your site for
the answer?
<You did?>
let me start at the beginning, I've seen
collectors using Nitrofurazone (yellow water) to store recently
collected fish. In some cases I've heard of wholesalers using it to fend
off disease.
<Yes... not uncommon with FW...>
Question
Is this
a good idea to use constantly in a quarantine tanks for all new arrivals
<Mmm, not IMO/E>
Will it affect the biological filter? (a little) (a
Lot)
Fred
<Furan compounds generally do not affect nitrification
(directly), but can do so in established, closed (e.g. hobbyist)
systems. Bob Fenner>
Furan compounds - 03/14/2005
I must ask one question if I
may. Where does one fine Nitrofuranace? I have looked all over the
internet and I would love to have some on hand just in case it is
needed. I didn't know you had a post until just now, and I am not sure
how to post on it if/when need to ask for advice.
Thank you again.
Lesley
<Ahh, search for either Nitrofuran or Furanace... or even
"Furan compounds".
Bob Fenner>
Anemonefishes and furans
9/30/05
hi, Bob :)
When you have a chance... do you recall
mentioning in CMA or on WWM that Anemonefishes were sensitive to Furans?
<Mmm, no... as a matter of recent experience, saw new wild-arrival
amphiprionines being treated with such at SDC... last week when I was
visiting with Karl, EricC... delivering NMA bks...>
Steve Pro
pointed to a BB thread where someone recited it and drew flak for it.
<Mmm, I'll cc Steve here... am sans ref.s out in HI... but would check
Noga... BobF>
We are looking for sources/experiences to support it.
grazie!
Re: Anemonefishes and furans 9/30/05
Noga
simply says that in general Nitrofurans are carcinogenic, genotoxic, and
mutagenic. Additionally, catfish, loaches, and other scaleless fishes
are sensitive, but nothing regarding Clownfishes specifically. I believe
the questions came from this article,
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/clownfis.htm
"C) Chemicals: Last and
least. Be careful. Clown fish are like "canaries in a cave". They tend
to be sensitive to the same toxins as their host
actinarians
(anemones). Copper, other metal salts, organic or metallic dyes, furan
compounds, and organophosphate pesticides all have deleterious to
disastrous effects. These substances in various formulations, comprise
most of the "medicine treatments" available and used in our aquatics
interest.
They do have some limited, appropriate applications in
bare marine treatment tanks. 'Nuff said?"
<Mmmm, must have
believed/read this at some point/place... do agree that Clowns shy on
the more sensitive than average side (often related to
organisms
that cross phyla in symbioses) of fishes... Am out in HI, or I'd try to
find where I got this. Cheers, BobF>
Sick Gramma - Fin Rot & Black
Smudge
My Royal Gramma was in quarantine for 10 days, when she
developed a case of fin rot on her tail. I tried several medications
before I found one that worked, which was Furan 2. I gradually dropped
the salinity in her tank from 1.022 to 1.018, and I followed the
procedures for treating the fish, and even gave her an extra treatment
since her case was so severe (which was part of the instructions). After
her treatment was over I did a 25% water change and added activated
carbon to the filter (part of the instruction for using Furan 2). The
next day her tail fin was getting worse again and she had developed an
area black on her side, that looks like an ink smudge. It does NOT look
like little dots, but rather a large blob or area. I added MelaFix to
her tank to for the fin rot and have no idea what to do from here.
1. Do I treat the black blob?
<Improved water quality and
nutrition... this is environmental/stress in origin>
2. Should I
start using Furan 2 again, or have the bacteria built up a resistance to
it?
<Doubtful... could re-use>
Thanks for your help,
Thresa
<Bob Fenner>
Mixing Furan
compounds and copper
Is it safe to mix a
Nitrofurazone/Furazolidone cocktail with copper in a quarantine
tank? <Sharon in my experience most antibiotics can be safely mixed
with copper. I caution you about putting copper in with a tang for a
very long time. MacL> thank you
Using Fungicides and
Antibiotics Together (10/31/04)
Hello. <Hi. Steve Allen
tonight.> A general question on antibiotics/fungicides. <Are we talking
FW or SW here?> If a fish has what looks like fungus on top of a swollen
or reddish looking tissue, should it be treated with BOTH a fungicide
(Methylene blue maybe?) <Not really useful as a fungicide, at least, not
in SW, which is my area. You need a real fungicide labeled as such.> AND
an antibiotic? <Fungal infections are often secondarily infected with
bacteria due to the tissue damage they do, so treating together would be
wise if there is damage like you describe.> As for antibiotics, by
reading your FAQs I see that there are many you recommend:
Nitrofuranaces, Maracyn, Kanaplex, etc. - are any of them ok to use?
<All have their uses, depending on which bacteria one is trying to
treat. When uncertain, one must use a single broad-spectrum agent or
complementary narrower spectrum agents to cover the range one needs to
cover (gram-positive vs. gram-negative, etc.)> I realize that by the
time I feel I might want to treat with 2 medications, it is far along
for the fish. Do I immediately treat for fungus whenever I see it, and
then hope the underlying cause of the fungus will take care of itself?
(of course keeping watch on water parameters). <Best to treat the
infection when noted and address possible contributory factors at the
same time. All chemical treatment really ought to be done in a separate
hospital/quarantine tank. Plenty of info on these in the FAQs.> Or do I
actively treat for both bacteria and fungus? <If there is an open,
raw-looking wound, then bacterial infection is probable.> Lastly, can
you recommend a book that deals with freshwater disease and includes
LOTS of pictures, so I can read up and thus not panic when it actually
occurs? <I really like The Manual of Fish Health, by Dr. Chris Andrews,
available at Amazon for $17.46.> Confused and grateful for any response,
Miriam Bender <Hope this helps.>
Mixing medications
Hello WWM crew-
I have 2 yellow tangs in a QT tank that I am treating
with Cupramine. One tang has velvet and the other a red blotchy rash on
a portion of his
body/fins. I am doing daily freshwater/Methylene
blue dips for 5 min., and vacuuming the bottom daily for a 10% water
change. The temp is 81 degree's
and the Spg is 1.018. Is it possible
to treat the tank with Nitrofurazone and Furazolidone (Furan-2) while
treating with copper? Any help is appreciated. -Chris
<Umm, I would
not mix the furan compounds, or use either of them for velvet. I suggest
you look into adding Formalin to the baths/treatment along with the
copper. Bob Fenner>
Re: Mixing medications
Hello WWM
crew-
I have 2 yellow tangs in a QT tank that I am treating with
Cupramine. One tang has velvet and the other a red blotchy rash on a
portion of his
body/fins.
<Egads!>
I am doing daily
freshwater/Methylene blue dips for 5 min., and vacuuming the bottom
daily for a 10% water change. The temp is 81 degree's and the Spg is
1.018. Is it possible to treat the tank with Nitrofurazone and
Furazolidone (Furan-2) while treating with copper?
<Should be okay
but I would be worried about all of these medications combined with
Methylene/freshwater dips. Seems awful stressful to the fishes. Are you
sure this is needed? Have you checked our disease files at WetWebMedia?>
Any help is appreciated. -Chris
<David Dowless>