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FAQs on Glass Aquarium Repair, Troubleshooting/Fixing
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Aquarium Gear, Question 1: Is it worth
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Tank Panel Deflection 2/17/09 Scott, I just got a 75
gallon tank made. Its up and running. I noticed a slight bowing in the
front viewing panel of the tank ~1/8" out at this point. Tank front is
3/8" should have opted for the 1/2" thickness. <3/8" is standard for
this size tank, no worries.> The manufacturer claims it will hold in
the long run. I was just wondering, as i start to fill the tank with
live rock and displace about 30 gallons of water... will that relieve
some amount of water pressure forced upon the tank panels... its a
physics question. Less water=less bowing? <Nope, not at all, the
pressure will be the same.> Because the rock will be weighing down on
the stand and not adding pressure to the viewing panel? There would be
~240 less pounds of water pressure. Will this bowing overtime become
greater and more visible than 1/8"? or reduce greatly once the rock is
added...? <The bowing will be the same regardless of rock....1/8" is
not bad, every tank on the planet has some deflection. Don't let this
worry you, the manufacturer is correct.> -Matthew <Scott V.>
Misaligned seams - 02/08/09 Good evening, <Luke> I
really enjoyed reading your sight <Site, homonym> and attempted to
find the answer to my question within it, but was unable to do so. I
have a 45 gallon glass freshwater tank (36" long X 24" tall) that has
been running fine for over a year now. However I recently noticed that a
vertical seam was misaligned on one bottom corner. The glass is
approximately 7-8mm thick and the front pane is shifted over and
exposing about 2 mm of the side panel. I am not sure if I bought it this
way or it has been developing gradually. <Mmm, no. Was (mis) built
this way> The seam appears fine otherwise with no bubbles. The tank
is not leaking now, but I am concerned about the integrity of this seam
since the contact area between the two panes is decreased. I am moving
soon and I am debating about whether or not to replace the tank or
consider it safe for future use. Thank you so much in advance for your
help. Luke <Please send along a well-resolved image of sufficient
size re... You are likely fine here. Bob Fenner>
Bamboo tank leaking, Repairing An Old Collectable Tank - 06/27/07
I purchased an old 35 gallon tank that has a bamboo over mahogany base,
tank and cover. I tested it for leakage and set it up about 2 weeks ago.
It started leaking yesterday - I'm thinking somewhere near the bottom as
it kept leaking until it was totally drained. After calling around, most
people tell me it isn't worth the cost of fixing and to just replace the
tank. But it really is cool looking with the bamboo trim around it. do
you think it's worth a try? Should I try to fix it myself? What would be
a reasonable price range to get someone to fix it? Thanks for any help.
Tina <These old tanks were made in the 1960's and are very
collectable. Take a single edged razor blade and trim off all th old
silicon on the inside of the tank. Shave the corners to get as much of
the old silicon out as you can. Wipe down the corners with glas cleaner
to remove any dirt or dust. Use a tube of silicon that is made for
aquariums and reseal the inside. Thy make special tools for smoothing
out the silicon, I just use the back of a plastic spoon. You don't want
any air pockets in the silicon. Test the tank in a couple of days.
Hopefully the leaks have not damaged the wood.-Chuck>
Oceanic Tank Problem? 4/16/07 Hello, <Hi Matt> I have
just taken delivery of a new Oceanic Tech series 45 gallon reef ready
aquarium. It has a small imperfection in it's construction, and I'm
hoping you can tell if it's a problem I should worry about or not.
The side panels are siliconed in between the front and back panel. The
imperfection is that the right side panel is not installed perfectly
square. At the joint with the front glass the side panel is depressed
by about 1mm. The joint between the right side and the back panel is
flush at the top, but the side panel protrudes slightly from back panel
at the bottom of the joint. The tank seems generally overbuilt, if I'm
measuring correctly the Starphire glass is 12mm thick. Should I
worry about this? <No, but I would make the quality control issue
known to Oceanic.> Thanks in advance. <You're welcome. James
(Salty Dog)> Matt Harrop
Please Help with Tank seals!!! – 4/9/07 To Robert, I am
not a manufacturer of tanks so some of the finer points elude me I
hope you can assist me. I was wondering if you could inform me as to
the common or uncommonness of air bubbles stuck inside the silicone
seals of a tank with large seals the tank is 96x45x24. <Not
uncommon...> I have a few bubbles in the seal, mostly on the
bottom some more than 1/4 of an inch, <... I don't like them
this large...> when I attempted to fill the tank the bubbles
stretched on the outside panel <!> in the seal almost coming
up to the gravel at the bottom of the tank I had it 3/4 of the way
full the bubble was almost 3 in long (the seals are almost 4 in long
and triple paned at the edges for seal), <?...> I had
emptied it rapidly and the bubbles shrank back to mostly normal I
believe the bubbles are now more apparent and possibly even a few
more than to begin with. Any Ideas? <From the dimensions, I take
it this is a custom job... by a large manufacturer? Triple paned?>
Does this make it unstable? <Mmm, unable to say... wish I was
sure that whoever made this tank had seen, has seen this/these
defect/s...> I just want a few outside professional opinions as
to this situation/condition. I am talking to the manufacturer as
well, <Ah, good> as a side note this is the second tank, the
first one we got had faulty seals to the point it exploded in the
office. <Yeeikes!!!> All the info I have about the
manufactures is good stuff great looking tanks and from speaking
with them very knowledgeable, the owner has been making tanks 18
yrs. They are investigating the problem and likely to recommend the
re-fill of the tank, I cannot have another tragedy happen as it
would likely ruin me/ destroy my confidence in glass tank
manufacturers all together. <Mmm... would you please send some
images of these air gaps... with the tank empty, filled... not
changing the settings of the camera, or its distance from the work?>
P.S. I love your book read it years ago, recommended it to hundreds
of people as a great no-nonsense read. Thank you for your time,
<Welcome. Bob Fenner> | Re:
Please Help with Tank seals!!! – 4/9/07 here are some
of the pics of the seals. there is a shadow above some of the
bubbles in the pics, the shadow is the growth from filling.
thanks, Dan <Good pix... from what I see these bubbles
shouldn't be a problem going forward here... May seem not to
matter, but I would place some sort of visual barrier (even just
stout tape) around the base here... to "take your mind off"
these defects... But there seems to be sufficient seal area for
this depth/configuration of system. Bob Fenner> |  | .jpg) |
Re: Please Help with Tank seals!!! – 4/9/07 hi Robert,
thank you for your quick response. it is very reassuring. I've just
heard back from the manufacturer, and from the photos they feel that
a section of the seal is wet. and want me to remove all the gravel
and decor, to allow it to dry for one week. do you feel removal
of the gravel/ decor will make a difference? <Yes... if this
"wetness" is/was the matter> as a side note, the manufacturer
took three months to replace/ send the tank and one week for
shipping. your thoughts would be greatly appreciated. <... So...
when in this time frame was this tank/glass assembled? If more than
a week or so... the Silastic/Silicone should not be "wet"... Am
dubious. BobF> Thanks a Million, Dan The Aquatic Doctor |
tank seals???? – 4/9/07 hi Robert, <Doc>
so I gave copies of the emails, regarding the seals, to my
clients and they would like a "tank expert" to come out and look
at it. after I had explained who you were and why I was trusting
your opinion, they told me they wanted me to get YOU out here to
look at it and that they are more than willing to pay you. so
they wanted me to ask you to come out and take a look. I'm
asking, would you be willing to come out and take a look?
<Heeeee! I do work in the trade/interest as a consultant... but
am out in HI, and my time is pretty much committed in to 08...>
if not I understand. and I have been instructed by my clients,
to fill the tank tonight, because they believe if it does go
wrong it is just shoddy craftsmanship. thank you so much for
all of your help, daN <I do agree with the gist of your
customers sentiment... I do understand the rationale behind some
fabricators building multiple glass panel bottoms, not joining
the sides, front and back directly (down) onto the bottom... but
don't agree with this methodology... for obvious reasons... a
small strip (a couple of inches) can be fashioned, adhered into
the joints with silastic... with as much added strength as the
current design... w/o all the weight added, or concerns with
Silastic curing. BobF> Thank you your Business is
Appreciated! Daniel | Re:
tank seals????, consultancy – 4/9/07 Hello
Robert, I am sorry about the spelling, its been a long day.
I assumed you were busy, do you happen to be able to recommend
someone around or near Pasadena C.A. that has extensive
knowledge of tank construction and curing. I tried pushing on
the pane of glass something about the bubble in the middle of
the front seal seemed wrong, and sure enough I was able to
'float' the bubble between two and a half panels of glass.
<Mmm, yes... first try, a friend in the trade, Jim Stime... am
Bcc'g him here> The seal is definitely still wet deep inside
near the bottom, I think the top pane closest to the gravel is
cured as the seal is a different color than the bottom seal.
<Mmm, well, the closer the Silastic is to an edge... where it
will, would come in contact with air...> My clients are mad
and of course blame me for recommending the manufacturer. I am
trying to resolve this as soon as possible I am trying to find
out what kind of silicone mix they used in construction.
<... an interesting comment... Should NOT be a mix...> Any
help you can give would be greatly appreciated. It is an honor
to talk to you. <There is much to state, speculate... too
much for this mechanism of writing back/forth in the short term>
P.S. Thank you again for your quick responses, I know its
getting late must be a great view from HI <Ah, yes... Jim?
You can see the pix et al. Daniel has sent along on WWM's
Dailies today. Bob Fenner> Daniel The Aquatic Doctor |
Foggy Glass - 04/02/2007 Hi Guys! <Hello, Bob!> When my
tank is empty, I notice the glass is very "foggy" when dry. It's not
"clear" but rather opaque, discolored. <This is
"normal", so to speak. Mineral deposits from the water cause this, and
it's really not harmful at all. If you intend to fill it again, you can
ignore this fog. It will "disappear" when the tank is filled again,
unless the buildup is quite extreme.> Is there some way that I can
restore the glass to its original clarity and luster without harming the
inhabitants (when they are returned to the tank)? Anything you can
recommend? <Vinegar may be quite helpful, here. It is a mild acid
and can be rinsed cleanly away. If you require something stronger,
Muriatic acid (used in swimming pools) can be used, but requires a lot
more caution than vinegar.> Thank you, (again!) -Bob <All the
best to you, -Sabrina>
Air bubbles in 200 gal. Glass Aquarium Seams 3/26/07
Hello to Wet Web Media's Crew Members, <Thanh> I recently
bought a brand new 200 gal Visio glass tank to set it up as
saltwater. The stand is a DIY stand, all 4 corners are level,
however the middle/back/sides are a little low. <Mmm... as in
light showing under? Not good...> The glass tank is resting on a
3/4" plywood. <Oh! And this has provided a continuous support
along the entire edge I take it. Sometimes screwing such a piece of
wood into the stand below will provide such a continuous support
(needed)> After 2 weeks, I noticed there are some air bubbles
inside the 2 back corners of the tank, there are also air bubbles
inside the 2 corners of the front seams, however not as much as the
back seams. I don't remember seeing the air bubbles inside the
seams. I was probably too busy setting up the live rocks and stuff
and fail to check the seams at first. The plastic molding/bracing
along the top/bottom are still intact and in good condition.
<Good> I went back to the store and look at other tanks and
noticed that there are air bubbles inside the seams too, but not as
much as mine. <Does happen...> Please look at the attached
pictures and let me know if there are a chance the seams would leak
on me. The bubbles are in group and on the bottom corner only. I
was thinking of buying a 2" wide and 10" long piece of glass and
seal/bracing it from the outside covering the join area of the
seam/glass. Would this help prevent the air bubbles from expanding?
Thank you for your help. Thanh H. Tran <I am concerned re
this situation... the air/bubble gap you show is dangerously large
and placed... Is this gap in the actual joint, between the panels of
glass here? Not (just) in the corner bead, that is inside the
Silastic in the tank nestled in the joint? If it is between the
actual glass panels, I myself would have the seller/store come by,
take a look, and VERY likely take this tank down... have them
replace it with one that does not have this manufacturer defect.
There is a possibility that the seam may fail... Particularly from
ground movement... I see from below that you too live in S.
California... Do have the LFS mgmt. come by and have a look-see. Bob
Fenner> |
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Re: Air bubbles in 200 gal. Glass Aquarium Seams 3/26/07
Wow, Thank you Mr. Fenner for your fast replied I am greatly
appreciated. <Welcome Thanh, Tom> Yes the tank bottom is
resting on a large solid 3/4" plywood. All 4 corners are level,
however the middle of the tank, back, and sides are a little low.
The tank molding is sitting on the plywood solid, there are no gap
at all. <Mmm... do consider the previous suggestion... when you
switch these tanks out... to use some non-ferrous screws of size
(Brass maybe)... or bolts, washers... counter-sinking the heads...
to "bring up" the plywood support and stand edges together> The
air bubbles are inside the silicone, between the join of two pieces
of corner glass. Not outside. <Trouble...> This tank is a
200 gal (84.5"by24.5"by25.5"tall) and there are two large pieces of
glass on the top bracing both sides of the tank. I am surprised
that there are no silicone outside the joins. <Mmm, not really
functional... in terms of making the tank water-proof... but of use
in preventing tools jabbing inside the actual joint...> If I run
my finger outside the joins/corners of tank ( inside or outside of
the tank ), I can't feel the silicone. The silicone is actually
inside the join only. <Yes, this is fine> Again thank for
your help, I will contact my LFS. But if they turn me down by
saying it's okay, would you recommend placing a 3" wide by 24" tall
pieces of glass outside of the tank, silicone it against the joins
on both sides ( the back ). This is like bracing the corner so it
prevent it from bowing/opening/leak in the future. <No. I would
NOT do this... for a few reasons... for one, I doubt it will
"work"... and secondly, it may well void any stated or implied
warranty. IF your LFS won't replace this tank, DO contact the
distributor, manufacturer... and if necessary, the State Attorney
General's office. Do feel free to show all this email> I will
have wave box and 4 x 6100 Tunze install in this tank, so I don't
know if the seams would hold the high flow and the power of the wave
of the wave box. <This is actually a very minor source of sheer
and/or lateral force... compared with the weight of water, possible
torsion from the stand, the impact of a sudden movement (like from
an earthquake)... Not to needlessly worry you... and there is
nothing like actually seeing this set-up in person... But I would
have the store come by... BobF> Tom |
Glass aquarium repair 4/28/06 Hey guys, <And some of
the tender gender> I have looked on several sites but have not
found anyone else with my problem. Currently own several tanks
including a bowfront 46G and a generic 55g. <Not a problem> Over
the past 5 months, both of these tanks have been sitting outside in
hot/humid Florida with no water inside. After bringing them inside and
washing them in order to reset up, I noticed air bubbles along the seal
of the 55 (actually on the inside of the seal not in contact with the
air) and on the 46 bowfront the glue is slightly separating from the
glass (not enough to leak but its there. The tanks don't leak (at least
not enough to be noticed) but I want to avoid the coming BOOM and soaked
carpet. I am thinking of resealing both tanks to prevent the
waterfall. If they aren't leaking, should I bother with the reseal?
<Mmm, I would not... if these were commercially made, there is more of a
chance of trouble with cutting out, replacing the Silastic than not. I
would test fill these tanks in a safe place... on stands... and see if
they leak.> If/when I release, do I need to be using clamps or how
should I keep the glass steady and square? Thank
you Your avid fan, DK
<Can be clamped, even just sturdy-taped if the panels are set on a
level, planar surface during construction, particularly if the bottom is
not "floated" (i.e. the sides, front/back viewing panels are set on it.
Bob Fenner>
New Aquarium Seam Question (Pic inc.) 2/12/07 Hi,
<Hello there> I love your forum and you have answered many
questions I have had. I currently am running a 75-gallon freshwater
community aquarium which I have had up for about 4 years. Now, I'm
wanting to take the plunge into saltwater. <Ze plongee!> I
recently bought a new Perfecto 120-gallon aquarium. Upon getting it
home and filling with water for a leak test I noticed one of the
seams looked a little funny. <I see this> The included
picture shows the seam in question. It is the upper two-thirds of
the seam. The lower third of the seam is clear. <The better
area for this> I researched seams in your FAQ's and found that
some bubbles are normal but I'm not sure if these are too much or
not. <Mmm... this one is likely fine... and it seems you have a
pretty good idea of how this happens... just not a "great" job of
putting this tank (seam) together> The aquarium was full of
water for about 3 days with no leaks. Could these bubbles be
problems down the road? <Mmm, not likely> Seeing as the
aquarium is new, should I just return it or should I keep it and not
worry because the seam will be O.K? <I would keep it... the
possibility of a problem is low... and am admittedly too lazy to
take all out... move this one for no "good" reason> I'm not
trying to be too picky, but the prospect of 120-gallons of saltwater
in my floor kind of makes me uneasy. Thanks in advance for your
help! Paul H. <I understand, and agree! Bob Fenner>
Re: New Aquarium Seam Question (Pic inc.) Wow!! Thank
you so much for the quick response and detailed answer. Personal
answers in a day! You guys are fabulous! Apparently, you are
genuinely interested in furthering this hobby. I'm going to keep the
aquarium and press on. Thank you again! Paul <Welcome my
friend. BobF> | 
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Cracked bottom, scratched second-hand glass tank repair 2/28/07
Hiya...I have a few Questions about a second hand tank i have bought.
I have read through many of your articles but don't see any about cracks
on the bottom. only sides. <Mmm... bottoms can be tricky... as most
all tanks are "made" on their bottoms... the sides, front, back
Siliconed down onto them...> The glass is 10mm thick and on the
bottom there is a scratch/crack about 1 foot long. I can only feel it on
the underside of the tank and not when i put my hand inside the tank..
(The tank is still empty). I was wondering what the best option for
this would be. Would this make the tank weak? <Mmm... yes... It may
be possible/practical to effect a repair by cutting out the entire seam
inside the tank (including the sides, yes)... and fitting a new piece of
glass inside, over the existing cracked bottom... Siliconing over the
crack, and all the old/new corners... if the bottom is "very badly
cracked", as in pieces missing, another piece of glass should be fitted,
Siliconed in over the bottom as well...> I thought about siliconing
another smaller piece of glass onto it. <Mmm, not small... Really
needs to fit "corner to corner"... though not tightly> I don't
really care if it is not leaking just peace of mind wants me to do
this, so i have not even tested for a leak yet. <I would not test
it for such... it will leak, assuredly... and a simpler repair I would
not trust> There are also 2 chips 1 at either end of the tank ..in
the middle at the bottom, where the side meets the bottom. These are
also not right through, but would this be a weak point? <Yes...>
I hope you are able to make a little sense from that lol Thanks
...Jade. <Yes... Reciprocally, do my comments make sense to you
here? The rationale for cutting out, replacing the existing Silastic is
that way-too often there are leaks that originate "somewhere" when all
the inside beads aren't of the same age/continuous... See the Yellow
Pages, folks at a glass shop... 100% Silicone (no mildewcides...). Bob
Fenner>
Old Aquarium, sell... or repair? 2/22/07
I visited a local pet store and inquired about repairing a 55 gallon
aquarium that has been sitting in my mother's garage for 20 years. I am
63 years old and I remember my father having fish in that tank when I
was a child. Obviously, it is close to 70 years old; it is on a metal
stand with wheels. <Neat!> The aquarium has a slate bottom
with drain hole that appears to be in good shape. The problem is that
one of the larger glass sides was broken and needs to be replaced. I
have considered selling it in a garage sale or just giving it away, but
the pet shop owner indicated that it might be of some value. <Yes;
might be> He said that he doubts that a replacement glass would be
advisable thinking it would probably leak and thought it might be better
to use it as a terrarium. It occurs to me that if I installed glass of
appropriate thickness and was successful with sealant application, the
aquarium should be adequate to maintain fish. What would you advise.
<Mmm, well, unless you're in a big hurry, I'd "shop" it around... see
what it might sell for... And if all you're interested in is having a
useful system... I'd trade it in for the money and buy a brand new
outfit. OTOH, I do like antiques in the field... so, repairing it might
be the way to go... with "matching" technology (likely Pecora
sealant...)> If I were to install a new glass, could I purchase
the glass from a local retail glass dealer? <Mmm, yes... if this
were the route you settled on> What thickness would you recommend.
<Likely 3/8 or 1/4" plate... The latter likely being what it is
otherwise made of> Also, is it your opinion that the aquarium I have
described would be of value as an antique? <Yes... And I
do encourage you to contact an old (okay, middle-aged...) friend, Gary
Bagnall... of ZooMed... who is about the most "in to" person of such
gear that I know... Have cc'ed him and another hobbyist/collector
friend, Chuck Rambo here... And maybe try a pic or two... on eBay...>
Thank you for your assistance, Charlie Marsh Jacksonville,
Arkansas <Welcome, Bob Fenner> Aquarists worst
nightmare... So I woke up at 2:30 am last night to every
aquarists worst nightmare.. the sound of gushing water.... The front
pane of my 40 gal. reef split from top right side all the way down to
the bottom. Grabbing all the Rubbermaid containers, and buckets I could
I ran out there and tried to catch as much as possible.. I think I saved
about 15 gallons, while the remaining 15 or so marinated the wood floor.
Some good news though. Ran out to the store first thing this morning got
a new 30 gal tank, I think all corals, fish, crabs, and snails survived,
and are now living happily in a (slightly cloudy) but new tank with a
brand new 6 inch sand bed. (I was lucky enough to have 90 lbs
of aragonite still out in the garage..) I tried to save as many
sandbed clams as I could from the old tank, but only found about a
dozen.. ( I couldn't find about 6) not to mention all other life such as
worms, copepods, and other misc. bugs that were flourishing in the old
sand.. (I couldn't put the sand it in the new tank, b/c of the toxic
sulfur dioxide that I could smell after stirring it up looking for my
clams.) lessons learned: * Can never have enough buckets, and
towels around in this hobby.... * Always have spare heaters and
powerheads... * Lastly, (and by far the coolest) Cerith snails are
the hardiest things on the face of the earth... I took the tank outside
last night after draining it, so it wouldn't spill any more muddy muck
all over my floor.. I went out this morning, ands on top of the sand
were 5 dried up Cerith snails that had been outside, out of water, in 38
degree temps for 8 hours. I thought what the heck and threw them in the
refugium, and within 5 minutes they crawled up on the glass. Who'd a
thunk? Any who, my zoanthid fragging will be somewhat delayed due to
these unforeseen circumstances. Just wanted to share my story with my
fellow reefers. Ciao. J. Blair Miller <Thank you much for
sharing... What an ordeal! Glad to see your intelligence, balance has
survived along with most of your livestock. Any idea what caused the
tank to split? Bob Fenner>
60 Hex Sealant Lifting I didn't want to post a public chat
because the person that I purchased this tank from and the LFS that
assured me it was ok use your site. <Okay> The problem is
this: I purchased (for my employer) a used 60 gallon hex, cleaned it
up, and immediately filled it up and had it running with a power
pump in the basement for about 6 weeks while waiting for our new
office to be ready. <Good idea> I then emptied it and brought
it to work to set it up. A fellow aquarist pointed out that the
seals were yellow and lifting. <Lifting!?> We even found a
pinhole sized hole on one seam halfway down one inside seam.
(Coincidentally I came across someone in one of your articles that
had a pinhole sized leak halfway down with a 60 hex). <Yikes>
It seems that I should head off any future problems by cutting off
the rough edging and resealing it with aquarium sealant. Needless to
say a leak at work would be disastrous. I am, of course, upset that
I was sold an aquarium with this potential problem as I was assured
by the seller and the LFS that the seals were fine. Is this a real,
potential disaster or am I being overly cautious? <Hard to say
w/o first-hand observation. Was this tank resealed? Or is this the
original?> Is it fixable or should I just try to get my
employer's money back? (I am having problems with the canister
filter that came with it too.) It was only $150 so I might be better
off just giving back my employer the $150 and chalking it up to
experience. It is sort of a no win situation...please let me know
your thoughts. <I share your concern re the seal... it should NOT
show signs of disengaging from the wall... Now, know that the actual
silicone in the glass joints is largely non-functional, in that it
does not do much to hold the tank together... It's more for
protecting the actual between-glass silicone from damage, like from
a cleaning (razor) tool... And know that a sixty hex is much better
than a 75 or 90... that have the same base dimensions, but are much
taller... a sixty is 24 inches in height if memory serves... So...
w/o seeing it I am not so/very concerned... and you did test it for
six weeks... I would at least have another old-timey aquarist come
to the sight and check out what you have... and if you can make
them, send along pix of what concerns you. Bob Fenner> |
| Re: 60 Hex Sealant Lifting Wow. Did
not expect to hear from you personally. I love your book by the
way... Will get pictures to you sometime tomorrow.
<Ahh, look forward to seeing this/these> Thank you so much
for your time, Elaine <Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Re: 60 Hex Sealant Lifting Attached are some pictures of
the inside sealing. Two are of the pin-size hole that I found
that does go quite a way in (to the outside sealing).
<I see what you mean... looks like the folks doing this job (and
it does look original), were using some old Silicone, and/or
doing this work quick on a hot, sticky day... None the less,
from what I see I would not be concerned> The outside
sealing is clear and looks real good. <Yes> Thank you
again for taking the time to help! Elaine <A pleasure.
Bob Fenner> | 
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New aquarium repair I just received a 96x30x30 Starphire aquarium
from Inter American. The front and side panels are 1/2 inch Starphire
the bottom is 3/4 and the back and Euro- bracing is 5/8 regular glass.
The problem is that there are hundreds of bubbles in every seam of the
aquarium. The bubbles are large some around an inch long. Inter American
said that it was normal to have this many bubbles because the glass is
tempered <?> and they will not give me a refund. When I fill the
tank about halfway the left front seal turns chalk white. <Not good>
It first turns chalk white only at the bubbles but then I can see the
white areas spreading the longer it sits. They told me to let it sit
empty for a few weeks to let the silicone harden more and that
everything would be fine. <Umm, the Silicone "hardens"... little...
it cures in a day...> I'm guessing they are just lying to me and this
problem will not fix itself. The only seam I have seen turn chalk white
is the front left but every seam has hundreds of bubbles even the seams
of the Euro- bracing. Can I fix this? I do not have any experience with
building or fixing aquariums. Thanks <Fixing is difficult...
requires cutting out the seals... including between the glass (the only
functional seal)... I would be talking with your/their States General
Attorneys re the legality of this sale, lack of exchange. Bob Fenner>
Eclipse leaking Dear Crew, <Phil here!> I have an Eclipse 3
system on a 37 gallon tank.<I had an Eclipse 12 system for a while> I
have a continuing problem with what appears to be condensation
collecting inside the hood, then dripping down the back of the tank on
the outside.<I had the same problem> My only solution so far has been
to put plumber's putty along to back of the tank (on the outside),
sealing the gap between the hood and the top of the tank. Surely
there must be a better way? <Well Eric I wish I could say there
was! I have yet to find a "good" long term fix for this problem. I
have tried putting small amounts of paper towel in-between the hood and
the top of the tank. I've saved your e-mail and am going to try and
contact Marineland and ask about this problem, in the meantime try the
paper towel!!> Eric <Good luck...be in touch! Phil>
Tank leaking? 3/25/03 Sorry to bother you again but this time it
is rather serious.... <no worries my friend> Yesterday I realized
that there was some water coming out of the top of the furniture where
my tank is placed. At first I thought that it could be due to high
evaporation and I opened the cover of my tank. The water still came in
slow rates out of the same place: below the tank and between the tank
bottom and the furniture, dropping on the floor... What a mess!!! Then I
started inspecting the tank all over, trying to locate some drops on the
side glasses of the tank....nothing. <hmmm... do put a "spirit level"
on the tank to see if by chance the wet spot is the lowest point on the
tank (assuming the tank is slightly off balance). You may not have a
leak... the water could be from "capillary action" which occurs like a
siphon from equipment (like a hang-on filter or skimmer) clipped over
the top of the tank. the plastic acts like a wick and water in a full
tank can be slowly migrated up over the edge of the tank. Check
under/near those filter with a dry paper towel to see as well> Today
the drops are still coming out of the tank from the same point, and I
think I know why: 2 weeks ago I ordered a Remora skimmer and I connected
it with an EHEIM pump 1250 lit/hour. The pump is very heavy, so I
decided to put it on the bare bottom of my tank and on the glass. I
suspect that it cause some crack to the bottom glass because of the
vibrations. Could it be possible? <not likely at all... if there
is a crack or leak, it is more likely form an uneven stand or tank (off
level)> Now I have placed a bucket below the place that the drops are
coming out of the tank and tomorrow I intend to catch all my fishes and
give them back to my LFS , then empty the tank and try to locate the
exact point of leakage, <hmmm... perhaps not necessary yet. Do check
those hang-on filters> After I locate it I do not know if it is
possible to fix it by placing silicone on the point of the crack. <if
there is a crack, I would not repair or use the tank... it will be
unreliable in the future. If it is only a leak, it may be repaired. If
the tank is new... it may not have a problem at all> Will it be
fixable at all or should I buy a new tank? <the latter is better if
need be> Thanks, Thanassis <best of luck my friend. Anthony>
Busted Tank went onto your site, looking for some kind of quick,
emergency (Mcguyver) type repair- I was in another room, heard a strange
'snap' sound went to check it out and found H2O gushing out of our 55g.
while the 2 huge Oscars inside seemed to be enjoying the whole
situation. I thought quick to stop the leak; put some newspaper along
the inside of the crack, from almost center of tank to corner; while
being attacked by the monsters inside, was no fun ! Mean to the fullest
of their names worth. The leak subsided, I siphoned 50% of the water
out, the leak slowed. I really needed some technical advice at this
point; so I went to your site, but no help as to any type of quick 911
repair. Maybe the newspaper, was it. <Ok, take 3 pieces of bologna,
a match stick, and an eraser... But seriously, I am sorry that you
could not find a quick fix on our site and commend you for the quick
thinking and the newspaper trick, a great idea. A towel might work in
the same fashion. Although I have never had an emergency such as this I
have had to move fish quickly and have had my share of floods, the most
recent was involved the overflow of a 40gal garbage can while I consoled
my girlfriend who had accidentally pinched off the tip of my lizards
tail while cleaning its tank, ugh what a day. I have a few tanks,
Rubbermaid tubs, and buckets laying around for such emergencies and try
to borrow my Mothers wet/dry vac as often as possible. Although it is a
bad situation, this may be a great excuse to buy those Oscars a larger
tank as two large Oscars in a 50gal must have been getting a little
cramped. You might also want to look into why the tank cracked in
the first place, the first thing that comes to mind is the stand
not being level. This email will be posted in our archives, and will
hopefully help the next person who finds themselves in a similar
situation. Best Regards, Gage> Trade-ins on aquariums
Desperate and tired. Have a 120gal tank that has ruptured in the seams
twice in thirty days. On the first attempt at repair I stripped all
the old silicone and cleaned the surfaces, I resealed all the seams, all
the way around, allowed to dry about three days, now another seam has
come loose, ready to give up on this tank, are there any businesses in
the southeastern Michigan area that offer trade-ins on tanks? I have
been pricing tanks and want to save if
possible thank you, ellimae <Yikes...
dangerous when tanks give way... and messy! Not likely that anyone will
give you much of a trade-in on this tank at this point... You might be
able to repair and sell it for a "herptile" use (like a snake, lizard
container). A couple notes re these sorts of repairs: One, it's really
important to remove all the existing silicone from the old joint...
requires the use of a solvent (toluene e.g.) and clean toweling,
"elbow-grease"... and secondly, critical that the tank be set on a
level, planar stand of some sort... and this in turn on a floor of the
same characteristics (and strong!). Elsewise, seams can/do split from
uneven force. Bob Fenner> Glass Tanks cracking Hi bob,
<Hello Clive> Clive from India here. I've finally opened my aquarium
store. We're having a peculiar problem - the tanks we are making ( glass
sealed with silicon sealant) are mysteriously cracking on one side from
one end. <Yikes!> We are taking extreme care so it cannot be
because of some accident etc. Any idea why this can happen???
<Either the tanks are poorly built, highly unlikely if they're
commercially made... or they are being placed on uneven/non-level or
non-planar stands. Are these tanks just "hobbyist-grade"? Many
manufacturers make thicker-glass "commercial" tanks that I recommend in
a store setting. If you didn't make them yourself, call their
manufacturer re. Bob Fenner> Thx, Clive Tanks, But No
Tanks - Glass Tanks cracking II < Either the tanks are poorly
built> Hi Bob, Can you please specify poorly built - are there any
guidelines or do's and don't for tank building? We are making the tanks
ourselves using 5" float glass for tanks 2 feet by 1 feet. Thx,
Clive <Five millimeter? Should be okay... are the tanks set on a
piece of foam, some other "giving" material... i.e. not directly on the
board of the supports? I would use such cushioning barrier. Bob Fenner>
Repair plans I have a 72 gallon bow front. I developed a crack
in the center bottom of the back panel. I know without replacing the
panel the tank is shot with regards to fish. However I am considering
partitioning off the tank so the back center of the tank would remain
totally dry while the front and sides would contain water. It would
then be designed into a herp tank. My question for you is this. How
deep can I make the water without threatening tank integrity. <Likely
enough... a few inches (3,4) > I would like to take the water depth
up to 5-6 inches to allow for a good aquatic environment. This would
put water about 5 inches above the weak point in the tanks back. The
crack would be sealed and patched and glass siliconed in to isolate
about a 10 x 12 area that would hold small potted plants and
substrate. Do you think this would be to deep? <With this repair you
should be fine> I know about old and new silicone troubles and will
use acetone to prepare for the interior walls. Thanks, Kathy
Brinson-Wagner <I say press on with your project. Bob Fenner>
Removing Black Tarry Sealant (Chuck's go) I was given a 45 gal
aquarium which has a chromed metal frame. The aquarium leaks around the
bottom in several places and I was considering removing the bottom and
using silicon to reseal. The glass and slate like bottom are all
sealed with a black tarry type of sealant. The sealant has dried and
hardened. How does one go about softening the sealant and removing it?
< I collect antique aquariums and have a few suggestions for you. Many
of these tanks actually leaked when new. They recommended that you fill
them with hot water and let them sit for a few days. The putty softens
up and the weight of the water reseals the tank. Try this first before
you tear the tank down. Once the tank is full of water they stay water
tight for years. Try and find the hood that goes with them. When they
are all together they look unique by today's standards and are still
quite functional. If you decide to tear it down you will need an
additional piece of glass for the bottom. Sometimes the silicon does not
stick to the slate so you have to cut an additional piece of glass for
the bottom and them reseal the tank with silicon. Make sure that you use
the silicon that is made for aquariums. The silicon you buy in the
hardware store has fungicides in it that are harmful to fish.-Chuck>
Denny Earle Removing Black Tarry Sealant (Bob's go) I
was given a 45 gal aquarium which has a chromed metal frame. The
aquarium leaks around the bottom in several places and I was considering
removing the bottom and using silicon to reseal. The glass and slate
like bottom are all sealed with a black tarry type of sealant. The
sealant has dried and hardened. How does one go about softening the
sealant and removing it? <Good questions. First, an important note
re this tank and the prospective project of removing, re-doing the
sealant: Do strongly consider NOT doing this and INSTEAD saving or
selling the tank as is... it's a collector's item that has more value as
is than as a re-done fish tank. Now, if you want to "fix it", there is a
possibility that gingerly heating the old sealant (with a gas/propane
torch... careful) and cutting with hand tools (putty knives, tile knife,
single edge razor blades with a holder...) might do the job, along with
cleaning up the residue with an organic solvent (e.g. toluene,
xylene)... OR you might have enough seal to just glom on over the
existing tar material with the silicone, encasing it if you will... do
all the joints, not just the bottom here. But my choice is really to
save or sell this "relic" as an antique. Really. Bob Fenner> Denny
Earle
Glass tank repair I have a 55 gal glass tank
that was built in 1991 and I need to find a replacement part. The top
of the tank has a divider bar in the center that holds the glass
tops. There are 2 pieces of glass. This part is plastic and is
connected to a plastic rim that goes all around the top of the
tank. The tank is a standard 55gal long. We have tried to repair it
but the repairs don't hold. The tank is currently torn down and not
being used. I have someone that would like to have it but I need to get
this problem fixed first. Is there someplace that I can order this
plastic rim and replace it? I would appreciate any help you can
give. Carol Dunham <Mmm, there are a few very different designs
used by various glass aquarium manufacturers... and the tank you have
may well have been made by one that is out of business... Have no fear
however, as it is not too difficult to effect a permanent repair that
will add more than top support... in the way of a siliconed glass piece
installed at level with the inset of the current plastic rim (to
accommodate the tops, support them in the middle)... If you have never
used Silicone sealant, ask about at your local fish stores for help from
someone who has. The piece of glass should be at least 3/8 inch
thickness (half would be better), and cut just to fit (it can be
supported by books, or even tape if the tank is laid on its side. Does
this make sense to you? Bob Fenner>
Re: 55 gal tank top
repair Thank you for your response. My husband is a hard surface
fabricator and installer. This should be easy for him. He works with
Corian all the time and uses that type of sealant. <Ahh, good> I
will let him see your email and it will all make sense to him.
Thanks for all your website offers for us and we really appreciate your
input and help! <Glad to share. Bob Fenner> A leaky tank
I am writing you in reference to a 60 gal hex tank that sprung a pin
hole size leak about half way down on one of the seals. I have had the
tank approx ten years and when I drained it, it appeared the edge of the
seals on the inside of the tank had slowly deteriorated towards the
center of the seal. <Rare, but this does happen in hex tanks at
times> what I did was remove all of the loose silicone from the
seals and resealed it with 100% silicone inside and out of all the
seals. after letting it cure for two days I refilled the tank to check
for any leaks. Before I did that I marked were the leak was with a
grease pencil so that I could concentrate on that specific area. Once I
refilled it there were no leaks but it appeared as if there was a small
amount of water inside the seal. <... unusual> I then drained it
and added more silicone to that particular seal and then refilled and
checked to find out the water was still inside of the seal. I am unsure
if the water is from the original leak or if it is from the first time
that I checked for leaks. Now I have had the tank empty for four days to
see if the water inside the seal would dry up and at this time it still
hasn't. my question is do you think the tank is alright to use or
should I try something else. <I would set the tank up with just
water in it... in the garage or some other area where it won't be
disturbed, and won't cause too much damage if it leaks or worse... and
leave it as such for a week> My main concern is since I have the
tank tore down I was going to try salt water but I'm worried it leaking
again and getting salt water on my new carpet. Any advice on this would
be very appreciated. Thank you <Bob Fenner>
Rebuilding
old tank with steel frame I need help, <Hi Theresa, MacL here
with you today.> I'm rebuilding a 100 gallon tank. It has a steel frame,
when I took out the old glass, I had to take out some kind of tar.
<Theresa that's a very very old tank if I am picturing it correctly and
yes it might be something similar to tar. New glass tanks are put
together with silicone instead.> I was told that it has to be hot tanked
and NO ONE in Portland does that anymore. <I had to look up to be sure
what hot tanked was and here's what I got. "Typically you send it out to
be "hot tanked," boiled in caustic soda. This will remove all of the
rust. It will also open any impending pinholes if the rust has gone that
far. It will also remove any tin coating on the inside which was
supposed to prevent rust in the first place." That's for the steel
corners of the tank Theresa. And their point is, I'm afraid that they
are all concerned your tank is going to leak.> I already have the
new glass, and have broke the front panel (have to buy a new piece).
What I want to know is there another way to make this tank water tight
and not have it pop. <Well I was sitting here thinking about it, what
about putting a new tank, or glass pieces inside the old tank. Totally
sealed with silicone? You'd have to use all new glass and just set it
INSIDE the older tank so you can use the stand and keep the look.> The
glass guy seems to think that I need to get it hot tanked or just buy a
new tank. I don't have that kind of money. <I know it gets so
expensive.> I have had this tank for at least 15 years, just wanted new
glass, already have built a new cabinet stand for it. Please help, is
there any other way! <The insert is the only way I can think to go
without just totally scrapping the tank Theresa because there is no way
to tell how strong the steel is. Good luck and let me know what you
decide, MacL> Thank you Theresa Used Gear
Hello to all, <Howdy Gage> just a quick question. I read the
section buying used gear, definitely the way to go when working with a
budget. I am looking at a 100gal glass tank, 10years old, used only for
freshwater, currently housing some cichlids. 10 years seems a little old
to me, would you recommend resealing the tank before set up, or "if it
ain't broke don't fix it"? remove as much of the old seal as possible
then re-seal with aquarium silicone, or just seal over the old stuff?
<Mmm, a tough one... I might well re-silicone the inside joints. If
there's silicone there (as opposed to just between the glass piece
joinings), gingerly (with single edged razor blades held at an angle...
to prevent cutting into the joints) remove the old sealant, clean
thoroughly with an organic solvent, rub dry with paper towels... and put
in a good, new bead... maybe taper/flatten with a tool (tongue
depressor, finger...), trimming away excess a day or more later...>
Thanks. let me know if I am abusing your kindness by writing too often.
I try to find the info on my own first, I read your site religiously.
<You, we're doing just fine my friend. Bob Fenner> Thanks, Gage
Tank Repair Hi- I need some help. I'm a freshwater virgin and I
want to do this right (but I'm also incredibly cheap!). <Me too, Home
Depot is a great store, and rubber maid makes great containers.> I've
acquired a couple of small tanks (10g - 20g) that came with fish (and
been given more since) and I want to move them up to larger tanks.
<Awesome, the bigger the better.> I've searched the site, but can't
seem to find if anyone has had a similar problem. I have a 30g
All-Glass that was drilled for a different filtration system (from a
fish room). I would like to patch this and use an UGF and HOT. Would
sealing the hole on the inside and underside with All-Glass sealant and
1/4" glass be sufficient? (See photo- hole is in lower left on
bottom) I will be using this as a backup/transfer/nursery tank in a
utility room for the convict cichlids that I have right now (the little
bunnies that they are). <Someone once wrote in a magazine that
convicts would probably breed in a half can of beer. Love those little
guys. The only sure bet is to replace the entire piece of glass, and
that is a pain. I would use the 1/4" glass and seal it with 100%
silicone. In a tank of this size I would be willing to bet that this
would hold. Let it fully cure and test it outside, and if it blows up,
remember that i suggested replacing the whole piece before you get mad
at me.> Also, from the same place, I purchased a used 75-80 gallon
that does not have a center brace on top- doesn't appear to have ever
had one- Should I be worried that it will bow? The plan is to build a
stand and canopy for it- would the canopy be a sufficient brace?
<Some tanks are made without the center brace, and will bow a little
bit. Building the canopy with the intent of bracing the tank is not a
bad idea, you may never need the brace, but it is better safe than
sorry.> I kind of jumped headfirst into this after reading about
every FW book in our library. The fish were "free" (nothing is ever- I
know) and so far, I must be doing something right- the only one that
died was one of the comets I got for the black shark's dinner! <It
can be fun to watch fish munch other fish, but it is not always the
healthiest of diets. That black shark is going to need a much larger
tank down the road, if it is a Labeo chrysophekadion it can reach up to
3'! Best of luck, Gage> Thanks for the help! Shel This
Old Tank >Hi WWM crew, hope all is good. >>Well enough, my
friend. >I’m hoping you can help me out, I just bought a 108 gallon
Hagen tank {72x18x20} . I got it for a good price but when I was
cleaning the calcium off I came across some shortcomings. >>Used
tank, yes? >First – The silicone in some spots is lifting along the
edge of the seal and I’m worried about leaking. >>As well you should
be. >Second - There is two small chips on the corner of the tank on
the outside, one near the top one near the bottom. >>If the chips
extend into the silicone seal, then this is indeed a problem. If NOT,
then a resealing should do the job. >Third – The plastic trim has
come apart at the corners. Are all these things I should worry about or
is this normal for an old tank. The tank is 15 years old and was not
used for the last 5 years. >>Wow, yeah, that's pretty normal. The
moulding is protective in nature, but isn't normally relied upon to
maintain the integrity of the tank itself. They should be glued
together, as the protection they afford round the edges is needed for
safety reasons. >I would have liked to fill it up outside but the
ground is soft and I’m afraid it would crack. >>No concrete pad or
patio/driveway area to use? You really MUST fill it in a safe area
first. >I had the help to put it in our bedroom at the time so I
took it, it's stupid heavy. Can I slowly fill it and see what happens,
my wife is worried it’s going to blow apart or something because of the
age. It didn’t leak when they stopped using it. Any help is good help,
great website and thanks. Troy >>That may be, but the sealant is
lifting. At this point my VERY BEST advice to you is to reseal the tank,
rather than taking the risk. It is indeed very possibly that it could
quite literally burst, but just as bad is any leak, as they never get
better. When it gets bad, it gets bad very quickly. >>I believe we
may have tips on resealing posted on site, but if you can't find
instructions on how to strip out and reseal a tank let us know and I'll
fill you in (I've done literally hundreds). Marina
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