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FAQs about Green Macro-Algae Health/Disease
Related Articles: Embracing
Biodiversity, Green Algae By Mark E. Evans,
Green Algae, Green Algae 2, Avoiding
Algae Problems in Marine System,
Algae Control,
Marine Maintenance, Nutrient
Control and Export, Marine Scavengers,
Snails,
Hermit Crabs,
Mithrax/Emerald Green Crabs, Sea Urchins,
Blennies, Algae Filters,
Ctenochaetus/Bristle Mouth Tangs,
Zebrasoma/Sailfin Tangs, Skimmers,
Skimmer Selection, Marine Algae,
Coralline Algae, Green Algae,
Brown Algae, Blue-Green
"Algae"/(Cyanobacteria), Diatoms,
Brown Algae, Related FAQs:
Caulerpas, Green Macro-Algae 1, Green
Macro-Algae 2, Green Macro-Algae 3,
Green Macro-Algae 4, Chlorophyte
Identification, Chlorophyte Behavior,
Chlorophyte Compatibility/Control,
Chlorophyte Selection, Chlorophyte
Systems, Chlorophyte Nutrition,
Chlorophyte Reproduction/Propagation,
Marine Algae ID 1, Marine Algae ID 2,
Marine Algae Control FAQs II,
Marine Algaecide Use, Nutrient
Limitation, Marine Algae Eaters,
Culturing Macro-Algae;
Controlling: BGA/Cyano,
Red/Encrusting Algae, Green Algae,
Brown/Diatom Algae, A lovely bunch
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Maidens Hair Problem 12/30/07 Hello Crew! <Vadim>
Thank you very much in advance for your advice... I am very new to the
hobby and WWM had been a great deal of help already. <Ah, good> I
have a 5-months old Red Sea Max (34g) with about 3" of substrate
(AragAlive live sand) and ~35lb of live rock. I made some adjustment to
filtering media by adding a Poly Filter pad and replacing activated
carbon with ChemiPure Elite. <Okay> The population is 2 false p.
clown fish, 1 cleaner shrimp, 1 Mithrax crab, 3 dwarf feather-dusters, 1
Hawaiian feather-duster, 9 blue-legged hermits, and a variety of snails:
3 Mexican Turbos, 5 Astrea, 6 Cerith and 3 Nassarius. <A lot of
snails, hermits> Water parameters seem fine: SG: 1.025; Temp: 79F;
Ammonia & Nitrite: undetectable; Nitrate:2.5ppm, pH:8.2, Alkalinity
2.8Meq/l; Calcium:380ppm. I change 15% of the water weekly; top-off with
RO/DI only. About 5 weeks ago I have added a piece of live rock with
Maidens Hair growing on it. Everything was fine for a while, it look
great waving in the flow, but about 2 days ago the tips of Maiden's hair
clumps became a lighter shade of green and another two days later the
whole clamps of it turned white. Can you give any insight into what can
be the problem? Thank You! VMK <This algae died... perhaps a
lack of nutrient, maybe light... See WWM re Chlorodesmis, Green
Macroalgal culture. Bob Fenner>
Chaetomorpha vanishing act... Rate limiting rxns 12/20/07
Thank you for your help in advance. My Chaetomorpha just disintegrated
in my refugium and I'm talking a whole 30 gallon of it so thick you
couldn't even put your hands through it. It had been growing for about 6
months, and I would give handfuls of this stuff away to people because
it grew so fast, now its gone. I reached in the refuge for some to put
in my display for a snack for my tangs and nothing. I have a 120
gallon with a 30 sump and 30 refugium. 3 HQI's over display and opposite
PC over refuge. Lighting is obviously fine since it grew like a weed for
6 months. Lots of water flow with 2 dart pumps (closed loop), I run a
calc. reactor, carbon and SeaChem PhosBan. <"This" may have been
"it"> nitrates, nitrites, ammonia always at zero, <Or these
lacking...> calcium 400, alk 4. Temp stays around 81.5 day and 79
night. use only RO water. I do 5 gallon water changes every Sunday and
only additive that I use is SeaChem iodide. This is an Acro tank and
have changed nothing, I like things consistent and stable. A couple
of days ago, I noticed some red slime starting to form, so I figured it
must be time to change my PhosBan. I run continues and change every 30
days. I was about 2 weeks behind. Now a few days later, its gone! What
happened? <Bottle necking... loss of an essential nutrient... HPO4...
Like cutting off something critical to your life... oxygen let's say...
Bob Fenner> Thanks Brian
Re: Chaetomorpha vanishing act 12/20/07 Also, a continuation of
the email I just sent, my water is now very cloudy and my skimmer is
overflowing and bubbles everywhere. I'm assuming this is all of the
chemicals being released by the algae. <Yes> I'm afraid to test to
see what just got released. What should I do? <A massive water change
with what water you have pre-made, stored... perhaps the addition of
in-line chemical filtrant/s... e.g. activated carbon. If necessary, the
removal of purposeful life to another stable system. Bob Fenner>
Merman's Shaving Brush alg. hlth. – 06/17/07 Hello WWM
crew, It has been some time since I have needed to call upon your
expertise. I have recently obtained a Sea Cactus and "Shaving Brush"
plants, newly planted 24-48 hrs ago. They have lost their green color
and the shaving brush is losing it's "brushes". Is this normal until
they are established? Water qualities well within suggested limits.
<Mmm, some color loss is to be expected, but not the "brushes"... this
algae is dying or dead...> If not normal, what to do? <Should have
isolated, acclimated to the tank water quality, conditions before
placement... Now? Wait, remove if it dissolves outright> Thanks
again....you have saved our lives many times when we were first starting
with our nano tanks...I have faith again. Sincerely Stephanie
<Bob Fenner> BLEACHED CHAETOMORPHA 4/1/04
Hi gang: I have two large-ish collections of macro algae sharing a
common sump, aside from a 105 gal main reef. One is for a sixty gallon
tank, with bright light, a rose BTA, and a pair of clownfish -- all
doing well. In my fishless refugium, I have a mass of Chaetomorpha
that's gone from a pound to ten pounds in the past several months. High
growth rate due to excess nutrients in my system. . . I've added a DSB
which has now matured into a great nitrate-processing machine, but this
growth was mostly during its 'break-in period'. I was dosing Kent iron,
but my supplement bottle was over a year old. . . and when the Chaeto
started paling I realized the rusty color of the supplement probably
meant the iron was no longer bio-available. New growth on my Ulva
(lettuce) in the display tank began paling soon there after. I ordered
a new bottle Ken iron. . . which is decidedly paler/yellower in color (a
good thing, as I understand it). <I'm not sure about the color of the
supplement vs. bioavailability. Certainly more red/brown is more
oxidized.> My question is: Is the 'pale' Chaeto likely to generate
more chlorophyll and 'green up' over time, or should I cull the paler
growth (which is most of the total) and start over? <I suspect that
the "bleached" parts won't recover. Also, considering how fast this
stuff can grow and that it extracts nutrients faster while growing, I
would hack out all of the pale stuff.> Water quality is otherwise
good. . . Nitrates 0, Nitrites 0, always some ammonia in my system
though. Ph varies from 8.1 @ night to 8.3 during later 'daylight' on the
reef. <I'm suspicious of the ammonia reading and would suggest
verifying this with another test kit.> Same question goes for some
red calcareous algae I've managed to bleach. . . but this was because I
hadn't read the WWM FAQs. . . which outline how little light the reds
seem to want relative to green (and even brown) algae. <Coralline
algaes go through many changes based on lighting, water movement,
alkalinity and other conditions. Others will move into the empty
space.> Lest you think I'm busy abusing various marine plants, I've
got small quantities of about a dozen other species that are doing
great. Codium, Halymenia, red Dictyota, yellow Dictyota, red grape, etc.
(No Caulerpa though!) Thanks in advance for any help on this. Chuck
<Getting a head start on the burgeoning macro-algae craze! I suspect
that many will soon share your interest in these beautiful and useful
algaes. Best Regards, Adam> Dying Halimeda
07/15/03 <Hi, PF with you tonight> I purchased a reef tank that
had been established for two years. The tank had plenty of Halimeda
plants growing in it. I use to use synthetic salt water but now
converted to ocean salt water from a local source. The problem that I am
having is that the Halimeda is dying. I set up a refugium and planted
Halimeda in it along with other algae plant. All the plants are doing
very well with the exception of the Halimeda. This same problem is
occurring in the tank, all plants are prospering with the exception of
the Halimeda. I added extra iron and calcium but still the problem
exists. <Well, in all honesty switch back to the synthetic salt
mixes. There's plenty of public aquariums that use them (like the
National Aquarium in Baltimore), and if it's good enough for them...
From what I have read and been told (by the likes of Bob, Anthony,
JasonC, and others) sterilized seawater generally doesn't perform as
well in a tank as does a mix. I'm not a chemist so I can tell you why,
but for example, it loses it's buffering properties a lot faster.>
Bleached Turtle Weed Hi Bob, Hope you and the rest at WWM have
had a wonderful and merry Christmas. <It was a bit hectic, but all
in all a good holiday season. Hope you had a good one yourself!> I
hope you can give me some advice to my query soon, I had bit of a hair
algae problem in my tank that seems to be improving, with some vigorous
water movement by addition of 2 power heads and a new skimmer.
Recently I bought some Chlorodesmis fastigiata turtle weed which was a
healthy green colour, I put it into my tank it is about 8" away from my
fluorescent tubes, yesterday I noticed it has started to bleach and is
getting white in colour, the temperature in my tank is a constant 26
Deg, rest of the corals and fishes are doing well. Is there any way I
could reverse this process or is that patch of weed doomed? <I would
suggest moving it farther away from the light source. I think it's
getting a bit too much light than it's used to in wild. If you move it
to a more shaded area of the tank or at least farther from the lights
then I should expect for the bleaching to at least slow, but hopefully
for the turtle weed to come back to it's natural emerald
color. Surprisingly not a lot of info is found on turtle weed, but I'm
sure once this catches on as a great natural filter for water more info
will become available.
http://people.hws.edu/fieldguide/show.asp?ID=160 That is at least
one nice site with some basic info on it.> Wishing you and the crew a
very happy and prosperous new year. Compliments of the season. Jorell
<Hope you and the tank have a great year as well. -Magnus>
Chaetomorpha help The problem/questions: I'm having a
problem with Chaetomorpha slowly dying. Small sections are turning from
dark green to clear and those clear sections eventually go limp and
dissolve or break away. I have tried placing the colonies at different
heights within the tanks but with no improvement. Gracilaria in this
same system is growing rapidly. Ochtodes is doing well but growing
slowly. Micro algae exists, but is kept under control by snails and
other tiny invert grazers to the point where I no longer need to clean
the glass. The macro algaes are separated by a reasonable distance, but
is it possible these are conducting some sort of chemical warfare?
<Yes> I chose these varieties because I believe they are less noxious
then most. What is your opinion of chelated Iron in a marine system?
<Generally ferrous matter is not rate limited in marine systems, but it
does little possible harm to add it> I have heard anything from
definitely not to it's a requirement of macro algae. I have started
adding Kent Marine Iron supplement for the past month, but that doesn't
seem to make a difference one way or the other so far. The setup:
The system is 3 months old consisting of a display and refugium with
several types of macro algae. It is currently fishless but has two L.
debelius and a good assortment of micro-fauna. Both tanks use compact
fluorescent lighting - ~4w/gal in the display and ~5w/gal in the 'fuge.
The lights are on 10 hours in the display and 18 hours in the 'fuge on a
reverse schedule. Everything is growing well except the
Chaetomorpha. There is a fist sized colony in the display directly in
the path of one of the returns; it tumbles freely. The second colony in
the 'fuge is much large and is stationary with moderate water flow; it
rests on a 2" bed of Kent Bio-Sediment. Water parameters:
Temp: 80-82F Specific Grav: 1.022-23 pH: 8.2 KH: 110-160 mg/L
Calcium: 440-520 mg/L <This is a bit high... I would let drop to
about 400 ppm> Ammonia: undetectable Nitrate: undetectable
Nitrate: ~5 mg/L Phosphate: undetectable Silicate: undetectable
Free Iron: undetectable Chelated Iron: 0.1-0.25 mg/L <I strongly
suspect that the Chaetomorpha is indeed being "deselected" for
biologically in your system... and would either move it to some other
separate system, or let it go. Bob Fenner> Dying
Chaetomorpha... needs more water flow? 1/29/05 Hey guys. Just a
quickie for ya, if you don't mind. I have an upstream refugium with a
few bundles of Chaeto, and for some reason it is turning white and dying
off. <the most common reason is a lack of water flow. Chaeto is very
hardy with regard for lighting (5 watts per gallon will do)... but it is
very needy for water flow so strong that it stays tumbling> I run a
system with a fairly high nutrient load, since it is a softie tank, so I
am a bit confused as to the issue here. I have a 10K regular wattage
fluorescent bulb, run opposite of my display tank. Is it a possibility
that Iron is depleted too rapidly in my system? <not likely the
problem here> I dose b-ionic daily, and it lists iron as one of the
trace elements... but I am wondering if I need to supplement further. At
any rate, I though Chaetomorpha was not an algae that dies off as it has
been, so I am a bit confused. <correct... it is quite hardy and not
prone to events of sexual die-offs... particularly if/when you have been
harvesting it regularly> Any speculations would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks! <this is a common question and problem... most
always a lack of water flow. Apply enough to make the Chaeto ball
tumble. Anthony> Halimeda plant I currently have
a good sized Halimeda plant within my 135gal reef tank. Short of listing
all the variables of my tank, this plant has been in there and steadily
growing from just a nub for the past 8 or so months. All of a sudden,
pretty much overnight, most of the entire plant turned white and lost
all pigmentation. In reading various articles on this, I do see that
this is something that does happen, but my question is should I remove
the entire plant, or let it break down the calcareous skeleton that was
left behind. It appears that right now, it has not had any noticeably
harmful effects to my tank or its residents, but it did kick my skimmer
into full action. <I would suspect a parameter change that affected
the Halimeda and increased skimming, maybe not the Halimeda itself.
Regardless, I would test tank params completely including calcium,
magnesium, alk, pH, ammonia/nitrites/nitrates. Usually calcium/alk
related, perhaps photoperiod, or perhaps a nutrient/ammonia spike or low
Redox. How long are lights on? Should be about 12 hours. You'll need to
test to resolve any possible problem. I would trim back to base and
resolve any parameter out of norm. It will probably grow back.> I
have yet to test the levels of things, and if I notice a rise in
anything unusual, I would obviously take care of it at that time.
<Better do this ASAP> Please let me know any recommendations on this
one. Thanks. Andy <Hope this helps, Craig> Shaving Brush
Problems <<Bob is away diving, JasonC at your service...>>
Bob, I'm having a hard time keeping and growing 5 Shaving Brushes in my
50 gallon reef tank, which is being setup for over three years with no
major problems. The problem I'm having is that any new growth, when it
gets to about 2" to 3" it turns brown and dies. My calcium level is
find, as well as Iron and iodine. I haven't been able to find any kind
of info on the requirements of this type of macro algae or the proper
maintenance. Any help or recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
<<I've had no experience with these myself, and given your report on the
tank conditions, I would suggest you post this question on the
discussion forum. Bob won't be back for another week and there are some
really skilled aquarists who lurk on that board. You may find someone
who knows what this means.
http://talk.wetwebfotos.com/ If that fails, Bob should be returning
12/7. Cheers, J -- >> Maidens Hair is disintegrating Hi
there, oh sea gods. <more like sea walruses... especially the
slobbering part> Quick question: My maidens hair seems to be
bleaching out from paler green to brown, especially at the tips, and
thinning on the rock. I have a 33Long and it is about 8 inches from the
PC 220W hood. Stats are OKish on the tank... calcium about 400,
ammonia a little high after a cleaner bio load and some more live sand
(about 15) nitrate about 2.5, nitrite 0, ph 8.4 alk norm phosphate 0.
Any ideas? I love the stuff. Should it be closer to the hood? -Brooke in
Boston <such algae are categorically difficult to keep. Lighting is
likely not the issue here. They may need more nutrients and probably
need a lot more current. Perhaps a dynamic refugium would suit this
species better. Anthony> Re: Maidens Hair is disintegrating
---Thanks :( I feel like a loser. How will I get to keep actual
animals alive if I can't even keep alive algae? Oh well.... I'll keep at
it. <no worries at all my friend! Some of these decorative alga are
actually very difficult to keep...they are collected in areas that would
be impossible or undesirable to replicate in aquaria. Trudge on! :)
Anthony>
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