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FAQs on Establishing Nutrient/Biological Cycling in Marine Systems,
Science/Rationale Related
FAQs: Establishing Cycling 1,
Establishing Cycling 2, Establishing
Cycling 3, Establishing Cycling 4,
Establishing 5, Establishing Cycling 6,
Establishing Cycling 7, Marine
Cycling 8, Marine Cycling 9,
Biological Filtration,
Marine Cycling 10, & FAQs on Biological Cycling:
Techniques/Methods: Seeding Filter
Media, Live Rock/Sand,
Using Livestock, Cycling Products: By
Manufacturers/Names: Bio-Spira, Cycle...
Chemical Feeding, Anomalies/Fixing 1,
Trouble/Fixing 2, & Fluidized Beds,
Undergravel Filters/Filtration, Denitrification/Denitrifiers,
Ammonia, Nitrites,
Nitrates, Phosphates, &
Nutrient Export, Related Articles:
Establishing Cycling,
BioFiltration, |
Mmm, stable, optimized conditions, introduction of beneficial
microbes, sufficient substrate and food... and time going by... |
New Tank Syndrome Hi there... <Greetings from David D!>
I've been reading through you web site for some time now, and you seem
so willing to help people... That's hard to find in any hobby.
<Helping people is the reason this site exists! we actually enjoy doing
this this!> Any suggestions you can give would be great! <Okay>
I started my first fish only salt water tank about 4 weeks ago. It is a
45Gal. pentagon corner tank. The tank was left to run for two weeks
with no fish, I fed the empty tank as some books have suggested to start
the cycling process. <I would have just added live rock. No feeding.
It will prolong the cycling process.> I'm using a Proquatics
canister filter that is rated up to 60Gal tanks. The temperature has
been steady at 78 Degrees F. Is this a stable temperature for marine
critters? <78 degrees 24/7? Fantastic! Many experts would suggest
this as the optimal temperature for most tanks.> Specific Gravity
is between 1.021 and 1.022. <Would be better between 1.023 ad
1.025...No biggie.> PH has been at 8.6, this seems high since most
books say PH should be between 8.2 and 8.4 <Correct. But PH is a dynamic
reading that will change at different times of the day or night. Try
testing PH at different times of the day. If it's at or above 8.6 all
the time, you are on the high end of the scale. I would not feel
comfortable with the PH going any higher.> Is there any danger
of PH being this high? <See above> If so, what can I do
to bring it down to the "recommended" range? <Are you adding any
supplements to this tank? Water changes will lower the PH unless the new
water is also at a high level! Test the water before adding to the
aquarium.> Alkalinity is also high. <Test your makeup water and
water used for changes. The problem is most likely your tap water.>
Unfortunately the chart I have just has low, normal and high readings...
no numbered readings. <You need a new test kit.> Is it dangerous
for Alkalinity to be this high, and if so what can be done to bring it
down. <Without a number, I don't know how high you mean.> After
the two week period I followed the suggestion of a store sales person to
use damsels as starter fish to help along the cycling process. I added
three small damsel fish, and of course two just died. <Likely high
ammonia and nitrites. This problem could have been avoided if you had
used live rock instead of damsels. This would have avoided the damsel
sacrifice to the ammonia gods.> the other is still ok, but is
becoming a little more lethargic. <He's probably going the way of
the dinosaurs!> The day after I added the fish I tested the water
with a Red Sea Marine Lab, ammonia was at 0.25ppm (toxic ammonia 0.05),
<That's way, too high.> nitrite was at 0.2, <needs to be zero to
be healthy for fish> nitrate was at 2.5 (true level 0). I just check
all of this again, after two weeks and now the amounts are: ammonia 0.5
(toxic ammonia 0.1), <Must be zero. Keep waiting. No water changes
until cycling has finished> nitrite 0.2, <See above>
nitrate 5.0 (true level 3). I can see here that the cycle is in its
process, but before I add any more fish and kill them off, when do I
know that the cycle is complete? <When ammonia and nitrates remain
at zero for a week or more.> I have read conflicting ideas of
when the cycle is done. <This is pretty standard in the hobby.
Patience...> What readings will I get from this marine lab kit that
will tell me its done, and safe to finish stocking the tank? <See
above. Always stock slowly, one fish added every two weeks or more.>
One book says to do a 100% water change when the cycle is done (doesn't
this defeat the purpose of waiting all this time to let the tank
mature?) <Not if the cycling is finished. Your are waiting for the
inevitable buildup of good biological bacteria. But I wouldn't do a 100%
water change. If the water tests perfect, I would do a normal water
change like 10-20%> Other books have said to do a 50% water change
when its done cycling... What do you recommend? <See above> I also
think I may not be aerating the water enough. I have one airstone at
the bottom corner, and the air pump is at full power. Will this be
enough to keep the oxygen level ok? more airstones? <Try a bubble
bar (wand). It gives a nice bubble wall effect.> I have one power
head in the tank circulating the water, I tried to use the air hose that
came with it, but it produces so many tiny bubbles, that the entire tank
becomes cloudy with bubbles. <Don't bother with the air hose.>
So I decided to just use the power head to circulate the water. With a
Fish only system, do I really need a protein skimmer? <For optimal
fish health and long term success? You certainly do!> As for this
canister filter I have, will other forms of media in it help things
along? <Yes but be diligent in changing and cleaning the media.>
I've seen these small cylinders that claim to help bacteria cling to
them, keeping the stock of bacteria high. Do you suggest any other
media other than the carbon <In the filters? Use whatever the
manufacturer recommends. If this were my tank, I would add live rock
some time before the cycling process finishes. If you get good quality,
fully cured rock, it won't interrupt the cycling process at all.>
Well, I think that about addresses all of my questions... sorry there
are so many. <Absolutely no problem> Thank You in advance! Justin
<My pleasure Justin. My friend, if you really want to be successful with
this venture, and save a lot of wasted money, buy a couple of good
saltwater aquarium books. The Conscientious Aquarist (by Bob Fenner)
comes to mind as well as many others and continue reading on
WetWebMedia. You're on the road to success!> Est. Biol.
Cycling I am in the process of cycling my 100 gallon salt water
tank. I add some live rock to cycle the tank. for two weeks I had an
ammonia reading of 2 part per million, then it dropped to 0.5 parts per
million. Is this normal when cycling with live rock. All the tanks that
I have cycled before would go from high and then just drop to zero. I'm
I doing something wrong? Thank You, John Bugby <No, you just have
not waited long enough. -Steven Pro> Re: Cycling Question
Thanks Steven! The salinity is at approx 1.18. Is it possible that
the low salinity may be delaying the bacteria from forming? <Yes,
absolutely> The bacteria that creates Nitrates from Nitrites? Was
thinking of keeping the water temp at 78 and bringing the salinity to
1.24 <A good plan. Bob Fenner> Thanks again! Bill
Cycling Question Hi there! <Cheers, my dear. Anthony Calfo in
your service> I am new to this and so I hope you will forgive my
question if it seems a bit absurd. <the way I dress... I would never
think anybody else absurd> I understand that you must cycle a tank
first and that it is possible to have several "mini-cycles" afterwards.
But what I was wondering is this - Let's say that you have no fish in
the tank (don't want to kill anything, so in my hypothetical world we
won't have fish in the tank). If the ammonia spikes up, and I didn't do
a water change, will the normal cycle of then ammonia goes down as
nitrites goes up followed by nitrites go down as nitrates goes up still
occur? <yes... if/when a culture of nitrifying bacteria have been
added/inoculated and assuming that there was some source of fuel/food to
cause the ammonia spike in the first place. Some folks that want to
cycle their tanks without fear of killing fish will inoculate the tank
with a handful of gravel from another established aquarium or purchased
bacteria and then feed the tank ammonium chloride for 2-4 weeks to feed
and supercharge the blossoming biological filter (colony of nitrifying
bacteria). At the end of the trial, they do a big water change and then
stock the tank with fish> I only ask because I'm trying to understand
the "biology" of the water system. Is "cycling" something that happens
only once when the tank is set up, <generally, yes... and occurs
again (as cycling relates to "spikes" for the sake of the discussion) in
events when the filter is killed or damaged and must re-establish as
with power outages, poor water quality, or other oxygen/food
deprivation> or is it a continual process that happens? <without
spikes on a small scale the bacteria live, reproduce and die in a fast
cycle> And are the water changes done just to prevent any danger to
the livestock? <dilution of accumulated nitrate, toxins, dissolved
organics, etc> So if there is no livestock in the tank, will leaving
it alone simply cause a "cycle" to happen. <no... without a source
of ammonia...little or no biological activity will occur/develop as it
relates to "cycling".> To help you better understand, think of a QT
where there are times that nothing will be in there - must water changes
be done on a ritual basis or will ammonia clear itself using typical
"cycling" effects? <good question... such a tank would need to be fed
with a source of food/ammonia at times when fish were not present. For
this reason it is better more convenient) and not necessary to keep a QT
tank running at all times. Simple keep an extra biological filter
(sponge type) running on the main display at all times. Then when the
need for a QT tank arises...simply move the established/dirty sponge
filter over to the QT tank with some aged water and some new water and
stock with fish immediately (the sick or new fish that needs QT). The
biological filter will continue in stride without spikes most likely>
Thank you for clarifying this for me. Debra <best regards, Anthony
Calfo>
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