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Engorged looking anemone please help! Unworkable stock assortment,
set-up, feeding 7/13/08 Hi, I have a 46 gal bow front
tank, eheim professional II filter, two live rock, scooter blenny, 2
percula clowns, coral beauty, midnight angel, and a Sweetlips grunt.
<... this won't work...> i just purchased 2 anemones <Ditto>
from my LFS and when i put them in the tank one seemed to be doing
great, it dug itself into the sand right away and looked as though
it was eating when i put the brine shrimp into the tank. <...>
its been two days and it now seems to have shrunk in size a little
(the tentacles really). just wondering what that means. <...
These animals are incompatible, this system lacking...> Now to
get to the engorged looking one...it is purple and when i placed
that one into the tank it just laid on its side for a while. after a
while of it not doing anything i carefully moved it by the other one
on by the other rock. its been in the same spot for the two days and
has yet to dig itself into the sand. then yesterday i thought that
there was something wrong. it blew up a great deal i thought it was
going to explode. I thought it was dead. <Reacting to the other
Anemone...> i just put the brine shrimp in and it looked as
though it was eating (placing its tentacles in its mouth) and now it
seems to have shrunk in size a bit looking somewhat normal. can you
please tell me why this happened? <Mmm, how far back? You haven't
studied sufficiently... this set-up, the mis-mix of life
presented... You're on a crash course...> I also wanted to know
..i bought a package of frozen brine shrimp that the man told me to
cut the little cubes in half when feeding the fish. <... another
mistake... Nutritionally deficient, messy-pollution> should i use
a whole cube at a time now since i have the anemones? ensuring they
get a lot to eat? please let me know and thanks for your time.
-Sarah last night this morning <... Where do you want to
start Sarah? You shouldn't have one of these anemones... two won't
work... the Angel doesn't fit in a 46 gallon world, the Sweetlips
won't live here period... I would return these fishes, the anemones
to your dealer, ASAPractical... borrow, buy a decent general marine
textbook, and read it at your leisure... Your system needs a
skimmer, the life in your care more than Artemia to live one. Bob
Fenner> | 

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Coral Lighting Question
Coral/Anemone Stocking - 6/16/08
Hello! <Happy Monday!> Thanks for the information about my last
question. I decided to get Aqualight Pro with 3X150watts MH, actinics
and moonlight. Now I'm planning to put 1 anemone only for my pair of
true percula. What is the best anemone for them that will not hurt my
inverts (1 coral banded shrimp, 3 cleaner shrimp, 5 electric blue
hermit, 8 blue hermit, 2 lion snails and 3 turbo snails. <All
anemones have active cnidocysts which will sting protein-based
material....corals, shrimps, etc. These creatures will most likely avoid
the anemone, but you will always run some risk of injury to them. Corals
are most often the victims of a roaming anemone. That said, many have
good luck with the bulb-tipped anemone, Entacmaea quadricolor, or a
Heteractis spp. I would recommend something in the Entacmaea family, as
they are easier to care for and reproduce much more quickly on the reef-
and can be purchased from another hobbyist or LFS as a
captive-propagated specimen.> Also please suggest 2 hardy SPS and 4
Soft Corals that will get along with each other. <Soft corals and SPS
really don't mix well, so I can't give you a list of compatibles. That
said, with a tank your size you can probably get away with it. I would
advise you do some research and decided what you like, whether it is
suited to your aquarium and tankmates, and go from there. It's fun to
choose your own stocking plan, provided it is a well-researched one.>
Colorful corals will be nice and probably small to medium sizes.
<Coral colors vary within species due to lighting, feeding differences.>
I know that some have compatibility issues so I will leave it to the
experts like you guys. :-) <If you really want to have compatible
specimens, decided on either an SPS or soft tank. Although there is some
allelopathy between members of these groups, you will have much greater
freedom and healthier, more colorful specimens if you choose one group
and then only stock its members in your aquarium.> Aquarium Info:
135 Gallons Tank 72"x18"x24" 125 lbs Live Sand 60 lbs Live Rocks
1 AquaC Remora Pro w/ Rio 1400 Protein Skimmer 2 Fluval FX5 4
Koralia #4 <You may wish to consider a larger skimmer down the road,
especially if you have an anemone and corals practicing allelopathic
behavior.> Thank you very much for all the help! <No problem Ray,
it's a pleasure> Ray <Benjamin> Long
Tentacle Anemone Vs. Chocolate Chip Sea Star – 05/27/08 <Hello
Lindsey, Brenda here. > I have a sixty gallon tank and the whole
bio-ball, protein skimmer filter. I have live rock and power heads
and live sand. I have three long tentacle anemones, one Chocolate
Chip Star Fish, <Ouch! Anemones and the Chocolate Chip Sea Star
cannot live together in peace. The Sea Star will destroy the anemones. I
do not recommend the use of powerheads with anemones. > one Sand
Sifting Starfish, Peppermint shrimp, lots of hermit crabs, <Crabs
are opportunistic feeders and can become predators. > and one Maroon
Clown Fish. My tanks levels are all great, as well as the temp in the
water. <I need actual numbers here to be able to help. > We do
water changes on regular basis with RO water. Lately my Chocolate Chip
Starfish has lost several of his brown spikes on his back and it looks
like he is being eaten away by something, he is losing pieces of his
legs. <The Chocolate Chip will likely not recover from this. It may
be caused from the sting of the Anemone. > Also my anemones have
shriveled up to very small sizes. <I’m not surprised. > My Clown
Fishes Anemone was great and lately is tiny and is now hanging down
almost up-side down from his live rock and looks like he is spitting out
some type of white intestine out of his mouth. I cannot get him to eat,
it seems like he is not strong enough to hold on to the food long enough
to actually eat it. My other anemones are acting the same way but not as
bad. What is going on? PLEASE HELP!! I really do not want to lose
anything and especially not the anemone that the Clown Fish loves. Can
anything be done? <Remove the Chocolate Chip Sea Star immediately.
Please send me a complete list of water parameters including
temperature, calcium, alkalinity, pH, Salinity, Ammonia, Nitrates, and
Nitrites. I also need to know the age of your system, and a detailed
list of all equipment you are using. > Thanks you for your time.
Lindsey <You’re welcome! Brenda >
Removing an Anemone -5/16/08
Strombus/Columbellid Snail Rapidly Multiplying, Removing a LTA, Mixed
Anemone Species, Anemone Stinging Corals Guys, <Hi Jim, Brenda
here!> If you could help me with 3 different topics. <I’ll sure
try! > Ignoring your advice to not keep Anemone's with other corals,
I decided my 265 tank could hold an Long Tentacle Anemone. I also
decided that when a piece of coral I bought had a bubble tip on in, that
it would be fine and they are, but they are also now 12"+ across and
have started stinging my corals. <I’m not surprised. > I would
like to remove them and trade them in. However, my LTA has its foot
buried in my DSB. Will removing him be a problem? <It can be. > I
am not sure how much mixing of the sand can cause and issue. <In
small amounts it shouldn’t be a huge problem. > The bubble tip is
attached to 2 or 3 different pieces of live rock. I am not sure if I can
get a nail under the foot as you suggest. Is there another method?
<You can try adjusting flow, in an effort to make the anemone move. Be
careful not to blast the anemone. > Second, I have noticed that small
(1/2" or so) pieces of what looks like either Stylophora or a pink
Bird’s nest coral have started to grow on 2 different pieces of live
rock. Any idea, I have both corals in my tank, but not near these
locations. I thought they were coralline or something else at first, but
they now have distinct branches and I can see the polyps etc... seemed
odd. Do you have ideas how they may have got there? <My guess is that
a small portion of this coral was broken off, and this is were it ended
up. > Lastly, I got a "cleaner pack" that included Strombus Snails
from IPSF. <Also known as the Columbellid. “Strombus” may be a
misidentification of this snail. See here:
http://www.projectdibs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29&highlight=Strombus+Snail
.> I now have hundreds more every day... at night, it looks like my
front glass is covered. The edges of my tank have tons of little ones...
can this be bad? <They can get stuck in undesirable places (see
information in link provided above). Other than that, I have never known
these snails to cause harm in a reef tank. > Is there anything I can
do? <Share with friends or possibly even Project Dibs. > I don't
overfeed (IMO) so I figure at some point they will starve? <They will
in the absence of food. > Just checking. Thanks in advance. Jim
<You’re welcome! Hope this helps! Brenda>
can't we all just get along? -Anemone compatibility (Moving Anemones
Into One Aquarium?)
5/13/08
Hi! Hey there! Scott F. in tonight!.> I have a few tank-raised
questions looking for answers, but first I'll provide a bit of
background info: <Okay...> 29g--mated pair of A. clarkii w/BTA.
The Clarkii's have been in this tank with this BTA for approximately 2
1/2 years. Mates include 1 mature L. debelius, 4 hermit crabs, 4
Turbo snails, 3 Nassarius, and a few (3) soft corals. DSB with 30-40lbs
of live rock. 59g--mated pair of A. ocellaris (tank raised with the
female in my care for almost 3 years) that have only recently, within
the last 2 months, taken to a small BTA. Mates include 2 L. amboinensis,
3 M. sculptus, 1C. potteri (app. 5 months in tank, thus I am assuming
acclimation is successful), 1 Blue Chromis, 2 Hawaiian feather dusters,
2 large Turbo snails, 5 hermit crabs (scarlet & blue-legged). This is a
tall reef tank with mixed coral, DSB and 60 lbs. plus of live rock. 10g
QT--1 ill G. loreto. <Glad he/she is being treated.> 100g.
long--brand spanking new, and empty, TRUVU aquarium with 30g
sump/refugium. Existing equipment, such as protein skimmers,
halide lighting, additional filtration and power heads for water flow,
was purchased with the intention of upgrading to a 100 gallon. I
have spent the last 4 years reading, then learning how to protect and
maintain these miniature marine ecosystems before jumping in 100 gallons
over my head. <With lots of planning and preparation, the odds of
getting in over your head diminish substantially!.> Now I would like
to combine the 29g and the 59g into the 100g. I understand that A.
clarkii and A. ocellaris will likely not mix, thus my dilemma.
<And a magnificent one it is!> To complicate this further, the BTA in
the 29g (with the clarkii's) has been in my care as long as the female
A. ocellaris in the 59g--both being purchased at the same time not
so much for compatibility with one another but for their relative
"hardiness". Given that it has taken A. ocellaris almost 3 years to
interact with an anemone, I am hesitant to disrupt the relationship of
all parties involved. <I agree wholeheartedly. If you're
fortunate enough to have fostered such a relationship, and if the
anemone is doing well, I'd be hesitant to disrupt it.> Do I sell one
pair along with their anemone?(the horror!) Or is it even remotely
possible that, placed at far ends of the new tank, they might get
along? <It's always possible, but I cannot recommend it. I would
consider moving the BTA to the 59g aquarium, or a larger one, but I
wouldn't move it into the same aquarium with the other anemone...too
much potential chemical interaction issues.> I will add I am aware
that collecting and moving either pair with their anemone is far less
challenging than trying to catch the fish individually. <Yes, but
exercise extreme caution when attempting to move a long-established
anemone. Consider the possible trauma that you could cause to the animal
by "prying" it up or harshly removing it from its established
surroundings. Also, transferring the animal to a newly established
aquarium is problematic. Make sure that the new home is completely
cycled and well established before moving the anemone. Go very slowly
and acclimate the anemone carefully.> Also I'd like to say that the
one aspect of this hobby that I overlooked is the emotional attachment
that develops with all occupants of the marine aquarium. <So true.
It's not difficult to develop an emotional attachment to the animals
that we keep. This is especially true when you've kept them for years!>
I truly appreciate any advice you can offer! Jane <Well, Jane- my
best advice is to think this through carefully; consider the pros and
potential cons of trying to move the anemones to a new aquarium. Be
supremely cautious, patient, and observe the animals carefully. Best of
luck to you! Regards, Scott F.>
Chemical Warfare? (Mmm…and worse) – 05/09/08 Hello,
<<Greetings>> I am writing to ask a few questions about chemical
wars that may be occurring in my tank and affecting my corals and
anemones. <<Anemones? As in more than one? Trouble… Aside from
that associated with mixing anemones and sessile inverts>> I have
a 110 setup and I have a sebae anemone I have had a little over 2
years, in good health, dinner plate sized and nice and brown. I also
have a small Condi anemone added recently almost all the way across
the tank. <<Makes no difference… These animals are VERY aware of
each other’s presence in this small volume of water>> I am
concerned because after the intro of the Condi, my xenia died about
a week later. <<And what does this tell you?>> I have a bunch
of other corals that are all doing very well, except my pulsing
Sinularia looks a little odd, yet is still pulsing. <<Pulsing
Sinularia?!>> My water params are all exactly where they should
be, and all my inverts and fish are doing well. <<What is
happening in your tank can not be measured with your test kits>>
My question is: If a reaction is happening because something is
emitting chemicals is there anything I can do short of finding the
offender and getting rid of him? <<What is “happening” is not so
much a “chemical” reaction it is a “physical” reaction. Though the
anemones are at opposite ends of your tank, they very much know the
other is there. And though they can’t touch each other in the
“normal” sense…they are still able to “reach out and touch” one
another by releasing stinging cells in to the water column. The
stinging cells are not “specific” about what they will sting…and
thus detrimentally everything in the tank>> I have a wet/dry
filter and 2 CPR Bak Paks in my sump, and I am wondering if there
would be a benefit from adding Chemi-pure, or activated carbon, or
both at the same time? <<Adding chemical filtration is most
always beneficial…but in this case, aggressive skimming would be
more to the point for removal of the stinging cells. But even this
is not a “cure”…you really should remove one of the anemones from
this system>> Any help would be greatly appreciated, I just want
everyone happy. <<Regards, EricR>>
RE: Chemical Warfare? (Mmm…and worse) – 05/10/08 Thanks
so much for the advice. <<Quite welcome>> Man it really didn't
take long for the Condi to send things downhill in the tank.
<<Mixing anemone species is never a good idea. Even multiple
conspecifics can be trouble…unless they are clones>> He is on his
way back to the pet store, I spoke with them today.
<<Excellent…is best for all>> Also took the advice and added
chemical filtration in the way of Chem-Zorb and carbon. <<Very
good…is always of benefit>> Will these stinging cells be gone
soon since he has been removed from the tank? <<They won’t just
disappear but should be removed by your filtration system. Placing a
filter-sock on the output/terminal end of the overflow can help…just
be sure to exchange/clean it regularly. EricR>> |
Strange Occurrence... Not, Angel, Anemone incomp. 5/6/08 Hi
to all at WWM, First I wanted to say that you guys have the best site
on the internet for information. Hands down, a one stop site for
reliable info needed regarding marine keeping. Okay, you guys are
going to think I'm crazy when i say this, and if I didn't see it for
myself I wouldn't have believed it. Yesterday I paid a visit to my
cousin who has a 65 gallon reef tank with a 30 gallon fuge. He has had
the tank set up for years as a FOWLR tank and just recently started
adding corals to the tank. The only inhabitant that I told him may give
him a problem was a lemon peel angelfish since angelfish have been known
to go to the dark side and eat coral. He kept his eye on the angel and
thus far had been co-existing with the corals in the tank. Now comes the
strange part! He recently purchased a BTA for his clownfish and it was a
nice sized healthy looking specimen. Was inflated, sticky tentacles, and
eating krill. On this visit to his house, while paying close attention
to his lemon peel, I noticed something and couldn't believe my eyes. The
lemon peel was actively attacking his BTA. <Mmm, yes... Pomacanthids
eat Anemones in the wild...> The first attack I witnessed I stepped
back and asked if anyone else had seen it (I thought I may have been
going crazy). The second attack came shortly after and at that point all
in the room witnessed it. This lemon peel grew brass ones! He was
actually biting at the BTA's tentacles and MOUTH!! <Yes> After a
few attacks I noticed now the BTA's mouth was gaping as if it had been
teared. <Torn> I knew this was bad news and told my cousin he
should act fast and remove the angel. After moving all the rock out he
finally got the angel out and put him into his refugium for the time
being. <Ah, good> I spoke with him today to get an update on the
BTA and it appears it was unable to recover. During a feeding today,
while trying to eat, his mouth tore some more from the initial attacks
from the Lemon Peel. Unfortunately, the BTA then deflated and was found
floating around the tank in the current and was removed. I have
looked ALL over for this type of behavior in lemon peel angelfish and
even in angelfish in general. <Is common knowledge> The only info
I have found is that they can be a danger to coral, clams, and some
worms. Have you ever witnessed or heard of this behavior before? What
may have triggered this angel to act in such a way? I figured since I
couldn't find any information on this that maybe this behavior has not
been recorded before and I should let you guys know. Thanks Huge
Fan of WWM <Use the term "Angel and Anemone Compatibility" in the
WWM search term linked on the left shared border. Read the (highlighted)
cached views. Bob Fenner>
Sebae Health, Mixing Species – 4/26/08 Dear Wet Media Crew,
<Hello Nicole, Brenda here!> Thank you in advance for taking the time
to read this. <You’re welcome!> I've been exploring your website
for the benefit of my bubble time and my brain for a number of months;
for about two weeks now, I've been researching Sebae anemones (I was
given one by my boyfriend for my saltwater tank). I think I've been
incredibly lucky, and am emailing you to make sure I am not wrong. I
have a 4 inch anemone that was sold to him as a 'white' Sebae. It came
into my tank a light golden-cream color, and after reading the
information on your website, I thought I had no chance of keeping it
alive, let alone getting it healthy. I have a baby bubble tip in the
tank as well, which I've had for about 6 months (about a 1 inch 'clone'
from an anemone that split in captivity, very petite, and separated from
the Sebae by a sand moat between their pieces of live rock). <I don’t
recommend mixing species of anemones.> I am emailing you because the
Sebae is showing brown patches on the exposed part of its foot, and some
of its tentacles are turning a darker almost golden-brown color. From
what I've read, this is good. <It sounds like it is regaining its
zooxanthellae.> He anchored himself of a piece of live rock which I
placed with him before releasing him into my tank, and I positioned a
powerhead to give strong water flow to his part of the tank (which my
baby bubble tip seems to love). <Powerheads are dangerous with
anemones.> He has released 'poop' particles twice, but has not
exhibited the vomiting behavior or the hiding behavior denoted on your
site; his mouth opens very slowly to eat (and of course to poop), but is
otherwise closed. He responds to physical stimuli, and his tentacles are
sticky, but he does not close at night, which I'm worried about.
<This is normal.> After reading the material cautioning against
overfeeding, I have not tried to feed him, but he has caught small
particles of clam twice, and eaten them, although it seems to take him
significantly longer to move a piece of food to his mouth and eat it
than it takes my bubble tip. <Try feeding pieces no bigger than the
mouth, 2 – 3 times a week.> I've been burning through test chemicals
to make sure my water is matches the specs on your site, so far, all is
good there. Have I gotten unbelievably lucky for a novice anemone
caretaker, or should I be giving this anemone and his piece of live rock
to a more experienced keeper? <I would need to know more information
such as the size of the tank, exact water parameters, and equipment to
be able to comment. However, I do recommend separating the two
anemones.> The baby bubble tip is the only other anemone I've ever
had, and he seems to be thriving; I bought better lighting when I got
him in November, and all of my water tests come out well, if
occasionally low in calcium (I have a problem with feather dusters
spawning in my tank CONSTANTLY- I know that is not really a 'problem',
but it gets annoying to keep having to scrub the glass every week to get
the new ones off). I'd rather not number one, kill the Sebae, and number
2, risk the rest of my tank by trying something out of my depth. The
rest of my tank is comprised of more appropriate aquatic life, a pair of
tank-raised clowns. I believe they're Ocellaris; they were sold as
'false percula', and are currently a beautiful orange-shading-to-black:
they ignore the Sebae in favor of their favorite piece of live rock, not
a surprise there. I also have a damsel and a neon goby, shrimp, stars, a
cowry, snails, crabs, and more baby feather dusters every day it seems.
It is a very simple tank other than the Sebae, but I'd rather not mess
it up since it seems to be doing so well. <Do you have a protein
skimmer?> Thank you again for taking the time to read this, and for
any advice you may have. Nicole <You’re welcome! Brenda>
Mixing Angelfish with Anemones, Reef Compatibility, 4/9/08 <Hello
Brad, Brenda here!> I first off want to say think you for answering
my last question it was very appreciated and helpful. <You’re
welcome!> I have a Medium Imperator Angel and medium Koran Angel that
can’t seem to keep their mouths off my anemones. <I’m not surprised.
These fish are not reef safe. They need to be separated.> The
Imperator was first to start nipping at my green carpet once my clown
starting going in it so I finally gave it to a buddy of mine hoping it
will live. Then when the clown started going into my rose anemone he
started nipping at it. After watching the Imperator the Koran started
following suit. Why are they doing it and why are they not being stung?
<It is their nature. It may eventually be stung and eaten by the
anemone.> Before the clown started going into any of my anemones
neither even got close to them now that they see the clown inside the
tentacles they want to start snacking on it? Any reasoning behind this?
<More information found here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/angels/angelcompafaq.htm >
Thanks for all the help. Brad <You’re welcome! Brenda>
LTA attacked by Choc chip star 04/07/2008 Hi, <<Hello, Andrew
here>> Friday we woke up to find our chocolate chip star hovering
over the spot where our LTA was. We removed the star from that spot and
could not find the LTA anywhere, not even a trace of it. Needless to say
the star went back to my LFS the same day. <<A wise decision, very
predatory>> I was heartbroken by the loss of our anemone. We have had
it for about 8months, and it was about 8 inches in diameter and very
healthy. So I bought a new anemone to replace the old one, it is a BTA.
When I returned home to acclimate the BTA, to my surprise the LTA was
out and alive! I have a 75gallon with a snowflake eel, and volition
lion, about 90lbs of live rock, and snails for cleanup crew. The LTA
does not appear happy, he will not inflate fully, his tentacles are long
and inflated though, appears to have no injuries, has not moved from his
spot, however his mouth remains slightly open (which I am aware is not a
good sign). He does seem to inflate more as the days go on, but mouth
remains open. I placed the BTA on the opposite side of the tank,
where he immediately attached his foot. My questions are as follows:
1. What precautions should I take when housing two different anemones in
the same tank? <<Plenty of distance between SP.>> 2. What should
I do for my LTA? <<If possible, move to quarantine tank, target feed
and monitor closely>> 3. Will the LTA be okay? <<Given good water
parameters, staple diet, lighting, should recover fine>> 4. What
should I watch for or be worried about? <<The main to watch is the
distance between these two, else chemical warfare will ensue>> I did
perform a 20% water change yesterday Sat), just to be on the safe side.
I use RO/DI water which I mix myself. All of my parameters are perfect.
We have had the tank for a year, and it has been very stable for the
past 6months. I do have a skimmer, two additional powerheads (which are
screened to avoid the anemones being sucked in) and appropriate lighting
for anemones. Thanks in advance for your help! Love your site
Michelle <<Hope the above helps. If problems do arise between the two
nems in the tank, i would suggest removal of the BTA..Personaly, i
prefer to only see multiple nems in tanks of 100 gals plus, this gives
plenty of room for the two to have "plenty" of space between them>>
<<Thanks and good luck. A Nixon>>
Does my new wrasse have a death wish?
Dare Devil Wrasse and Anemone 4-3-08 So I'm very new to marine
aquariums, learning new things every day and your site has been awesome.
<Thanks!> I have a question about my pink tipped anemone, how
poisonous is it to other fish? <Very. These stinging celled
individuals can reach out and nab an unsuspecting fish with a wave of a
tentacle. > About a week ago I added a six-line wrasse and he seems
to be doing great in his new tank, except he worries me because he swims
between the tentacles seemingly without a care in the world. My question
is does the fish have a chance of being eaten, (the wrasse is small
enough that it'd be pretty easy if the pink-tip got hold of him I'd
think) and if not, is the fish bothering the anemone? I'm pretty sure my
wrasse thinks he's a clown fish! <While his stunts may seem harmless
to him, they are actually death defying acts. At any moment he can
become a potential meal for your anemone. I would remove one of the two,
as these acrobatics of the wrasse may cost him his life. As far as
harassment is concerned, on the anemones behalf, I wouldn’t be worried.
> 14g 8.0ph nitrite: 0 nitrite: 5 ammonia: 0 the
Thank you so much for your help! <Not a problem. You have a brave
little wrasse. –Yunachin.>
New Anemone Roaming the tank! Possible Chemical Warfare - 3/7/08
<Hello Carolyn, Brenda here!> Hi there! I usually find all my answers
within your site but can't tonight. We have a 55 gal salt water...all
water parameters are great...we check them daily, also I have about 60+
lbs live rock, a few coral in the tank, 2 mushroom rocks, 1 small
cluster of zoo's, 1 small brain, feather dusters scattered, frogspawn,
green star polyps, 1 small frag of Montipora Cap., also...we have 2
bubble tip anemones... which wont stay put. We just added them to the
tank yesterday. <They may just be looking for a suitable spot in the
tank. This is not unusual for a newly introduced anemone. You do have
quite a mix of coral. You may have a chemical war going on in there. The
green star polyp and mushroom coral can be toxic to anemones, especially
if you have a lot of them. Are you running carbon and changing it on a
regular basis?> I know they are mobile- but I had a bubble in the
tank for almost a year- he never moved- until I added a second bubble
tip. Then I lost them both. <Anemones of the same clone are best.
There is never a guarantee that two anemones that are not of the same
clone will be compatible.> I have plenty of light...400 watt metal
halide. <Wow! That is a lot of light for a 55 gallon tank!> I feel
like here we go again... My LFS guy tells me yes, I can have them
together- the bubble tip as long as monitored and kept away from Coral
should be fine. Any Ideas? <Please send me a list of your water
parameters to be sure there is nothing else going on. Are you using a
skimmer?> I really want the bubbles for my Clarkii's- they love'em!
Thanks! Carolyn <You’re welcome! Brenda>
How to identify what is killing these 2 Corals... Actinarian
allelopathy, lack of reading 3/3/08 Hi Crew, <Sammy>
I have 2 corals, a Horn Coral and a Moon Coral, in my 175 gal tank
that seems to be slowing dying and I am hoping you can point me to
what I should be looking for. <Uhh, there's something else
here... in the upper left... an Actinarian...> Here is a view of
the tank showing the position of both corals. Here are closer up
shots of the 2 corals. Here, you can see clearly that sections
are completely dead. Part of it has the purple coralline algae
growing on it already. Below is a shot taken in mid November and it
was in much better shape, although there were already signs of decay
in the shadowed parts. This moon coral was placed on the ledge
under the anemone to the left of the 1st photo. <Uhh, yes...>
As the anemone grew, it was getting too close to the moon coral
causing one edge to die. <Yes, and that's not all> I have
moved it 2 months ago to this location. But the decay seems to be
progressing, especially towards the top left side. Here is an older
shot taken end of last November when it was still placed under the
anemone. <A mistake> Both corals are under 14K halide almost
directly and getting lots of light. Water parameters seems to be
normal, with calcium at 440ppm, NO3 ~10, pH 8.3, temp 76F. I had a
calcium reactor running about 3 months ago and I stopped dosing
iodine and strontium. Should I continue to do so? <What do your
tests for these show?> I am using Carib Sea Aragonite and I
thought it has iodine in it. <... no> Another change was the
addition of a Sea Apple 4 weeks ago, as you can see towards the
lower right of the first photo. Since adding the sea apple, I have
been feeding 30cc Phyto Feast once a day. I wonder if the Sea Apple
<Toxic...> is poisoning these 2 corals. <Not likely... all
would be dead> My other corals seem to be fine, however. One
other thing I noticed is that all my string worms have gone hiding
from the surface of the sand since the addition of the Sea Apple. I
don't know if it is the Sea Apple or the frequent feeding of Phyto
Feast. I have reasonably good water flow and the Sea Apple is quite
far away from these two corals. Another thing I have noticed is
this coral. This shot was taken at night, so the polyps have
already retracted. But you can see that the color is brown. This
coral was pink when I bought it. Here is a photo taken early October
last year. I wonder if this is related to the 2 dying corals.
I hope I can still save these 2 corals. Your advice is greatly
appreciated. Sammy <... I'd be removing the Cuke, and reading
here: http://wetwebmedia.com/cnidcompppt.htm, the linked files
above... and re Anemone Compatibility period... You have iatrogenic
(self-caused) troubles here. Bob Fenner> |
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Symbiotic tank 01/21/2008 Hi, whoever's there today, <Riley>
I'm in the early stages of planning a tank to show off as many symbiotic
relationships as I safely can. <Mmm... a matter of perception my
friend. Look about you... there is NOTHING but such arrangements on this
planet... I take it here that you are referring to more overt ones...>
The tank will be 65g about 50lbs live rock and 2-3 in live sand bed. So
far I plan on having an ocellaris clown with Entacmaea quadricolor as
its host, and a Hi Fin red banded goby with a red banded pistol shrimp.
Any suggestions on other relationships that would co-exist peacefully?
Thanks, your website is awesome. <Mmm, well... the goby may be
consumed by the Bubbletip in time... but all might fit in such a small
volume. Do seek out a "tank-produced" Entacmaea. Bob Fenner>
Cleaner shrimp and anemone. 1/8/08 <<Hello, Andrew here>>
I have a long tentacle anemone and a cleaner shrimp that is purposely
touching it and climbing on it in some cases. It appears that the
anemone doesn't like it because he shrinks in that area. It looks like
the shrimp is then scraping the nematocysts (stinging cells) off of his
forward limbs and eating them. I have never seen this, the anemone seems
to be doing okay except he has not yet settled in one spot. Do you
think there is cause for concern? <<Had a similar experience, nothing
to be concerned about>> Thanks, Nick <<Thanks for the questions, A
Nixon>>
Anemone Question/Compatibility 1/5/08 Hi again crew! <Hello>
We so appreciate that you are always here and always willing to answer
questions. We have read much on your site about the following two
questions, but just want to double-check. <OK> Here goes: We have
a 125-gallon reef tank, up for one year. 4x2x2. The tank has had its
ups and downs (as have we!) but is stable now. Temp 78-79, ammonia 0,
nitrates 0, nitrites 0, calcium <400 (so I am adding Purple Up every
other day for a week or so), salinity 1.025. We have more than 150
lbs of live rock, about 3-4 inches of live sand. Under the tank we have
removed the bioballs in our sump and replaced them with live rock. Have
a skimmer, two heaters (thanks to WWM for the suggestion; temp is much
more stable than using just one), four powerheads (including one that
just keeps the surface of the tank moving). Our tank is an open top,
<Yikes.> since our light fixture is raised and does not allow for
anything underneath it. We top off about 1.25 gallons per day from
evaporation. We use R/O water that has been sitting, heated, for a week
or more. Inhabitants: 1 Sailfin Tang (the BOSS), 2 Yellow Tangs, 2
Yellow Chromis, 1 Fairy Wrasse, 1 Fire Shrimp, 1 Engineer Goby, 1 Coral
Beauty, 2 Clarkiis, 1 Algae Blenny and 1 unknown striped Goby (the
surviving one of three...the other two we found on the living room
carpet...our LFS said they didn't know the fish were jumpers).
<Without the tank being covered, this problem will continue. Have you
thought about putting a glass top on the tank?> In the > sump are two
Snowflake Eels that apparently went over the edge of the baffles. We
can't get them out easily so the next time we pull the underneath apart
we'll grab them to return them to the LFS. Oh, and one Sand-sifting
Starfish. Non-swimming inhabitants (all singular): Candycane, Plate,
Colt and Torch Corals. Trachyphyllia, feather duster, mushrooms, and
polyps. Question 1: Our Colt and our Star Polyps are unhappy. For a
month or so the Stars and the Colt were awesome, but now all Stars are
closed and the Colt is wilted. Not disintegrating, but wilted and slimy
looking. We presume this is from allelopathic issues with the other
coral? <More than likely. The use of Chemi Pure will go a long way in
removing allelopathic compounds from the water. Is what I use.> We
presume we need to stick with one type of coral? (We have never been
able to keep Xenia, either.) If this is correct, we will return both to
the LFS, which is happy to take them back. <Try using Chemi Pure, see
if this doesn't help. Also be sure plenty of room is provided between
individual corals. Some corals do have sweeper tentacles that extend
beyond the coral itself and will sting other corals that are nearby.>
Question 2: The larger of our Clownfish (which used to live in the
Goniopora we no longer have) is now sleeping on the Trachyphyllia.
It's kind of cute, but we are worried that it will hurt the coral. It
lays on its side and rubs back and forth on the coral all night. The
coral (so far) seems not to mind. <As long as the polyps do not
retract, should not be a problem.> While we realize that most
clownfish do not host Anemones, <Wild caught Clownfish will host
anemones to their liking, that is, the anemones they are found with in
nature.> this one seems to be telling us it needs another buddy. Your
advice? <In "buddy", do you mean another Clownfish or an anemone?
Would not advise an anemone mixed with corals. They will eventually move
and sting corals in their travel and you will be throwing another monkey
into the allelopathy bag. We have no particular issue having an
Anemone, as our coral are established and not easy to push around. We
aren't worried about a traveler knocking everything over. <Ah, but as
above, the stinging process along the way along with more allelopathy
issues.> We make water changes every three- four weeks, and test
regularly. We don't know exactly what kind of lighting we have
.... fluorescent bulbs (daylight, actinic and moonlight).
<Should make sure you have the proper lighting and intensity for keeping
corals. May be another reason why some of your corals are degrading in
health. See here and related articles above.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marlgtganthony.htm> Thanks as always ...
you guys (and you gals) are awesome! <Thank you. James (Salty Dog)>
Michael and Dianne
What happens within the tank when an Anemone dies? 12/20/07 Hi
Crew, <Hello Bobby, Brenda here!> I have a question about
Condylactis Anemones. <Okay!> If I were to buy a Condylactis, and
it happen to die (obviously not hoping, just sort of planning ahead),
what would happen within the tank? Would this pretty much crash my tank?
<It is a definite possibility, especially in smaller tanks.> I'm new
to anemones so any information about what happens after their death
would help. <They can fall to pieces, and are very hard to get out of
the water in one piece. You may need to siphon a lot of it out. It
smells horrible, and will cause an ammonia spike. You will need to do
several large water changes over the next few days. Having a supply of
premixed saltwater is always recommended for emergencies. I recommend
researching their care several months in advance so you can eliminate
the chances of it dying. More information here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
> Thank you very much, Bobby <You’re welcome! Brenda>
Condylactis anemones
Mixed Anemone Species, Inadequate Food, Lighting, Environment, and Tank
Mates – 12/6/07 Hi there, <Hello Natalie, Brenda here> I am
new to your website and so far I love it. <Good to hear! I hope the
love continues!> Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. I
have a 125 gallon tank (up for 3 months) with 50lbs live rock (I am
adding more all the time), crushed coral, live sand, and a plenum filter
(not the only source of filtration). My parameters are as follows pH
8.2, ammonia and nitrite 0, nitrate 30. <Nitrates need to be zero.
What are the temperature, salinity, alkalinity, calcium, and magnesium?>
My lighting consists of 2 50 watt bulbs (5500k) and 2 actinic 420 bulbs.
<50 watt bulb??> I have 6 small damsels, <Holy Damsels!!!> 2
Percula clowns, 1 tomato clown, <Clownfish are damsels also.> 1
large serpent star, tons of tiny feather dusters and starfish
(compliments of the live rock), 1 emerald crab, 1 porcelain crab, tons
of hermit crabs, turbo snails, zebra snails, 1 BTA, and 3 Condylactis.
<Ouch! You have too many crabs, and are mixing anemone species. A three
month old tank is not a sufficient environment for an anemone. I also
don’t recommend 3 clownfish, it may end in death. Crabs are
opportunistic feeders, and can become predators.> My question is
this, as I have read through your website I am finding that it is normal
for the anemones to turn brown. <If the anemone has previously
expelled its zooxanthellae, then yes, this is normal. It is a sign that
the anemone is recovering.> So I am really looking for some
validation that even though my anemones look all beautiful and white
(even kind of green under the actinic lights) this is not healthy
coloring for them. <A “white” anemone is not a healthy anemone. Read
here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/condydisfaq.htm and here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/e.quadFAQ5.htm > They are healthier and
happier when they are the brown (light brown) color? <Yes, loss of
color is caused by loss of zooxanthellae. Zooxanthellae, is required for
their long term survival.> They all eat very well. I feed them frozen
brine with a baster and will be soon adding pieces of fish and clam to
their diets. <Your anemones are eating, but are not eating well.
Brine shrimp, unless newly hatched has little or no nutritional value. I
recommend feeding Silverside, Lance Fish, Kill, raw shrimp, Mysis
shrimp, etc. I recommend Silversides soaked in Selcon for sick anemones,
feeding small 1/8 inch portions daily until it is fully recovered.>
In fact one Condylactis is a host to the tomato clown!! <This may not
be a good thing. A Condylactis is not a natural host to clownfish, and
this may end in death. I also don’t recommend allowing a clownfish to
host an unhealthy anemone.> I am absolutely infatuated with them and
want to ensure that they are healthy and happy. (I know that I need more
light and that is in the works). <Without sufficient lighting, food,
established environment, appropriate tank mates, the anemones will not
survive long. I do suggest you return them until you can provide for
them. Keep reading.> Thanks again, Natalie <You’re welcome!
Brenda>
Three snuggling anemones... diff. species. Comp.
11/13/07 I have a 150 gallon tank with one Sebae (at least
that is our best guess), one long tentacle and one carpet.
<Anemones> The carpet has been with me for over 18 months and is
about 15 inches across. It rises up about six inches off the bottom
at times while keeping attached under the rock work. The Sebae is
about 12 inches across and has been with me about nine months. The
long tentacle is about ten inches and has been with me for about six
months. All eat well (I make sure not to overfeed and mix up their
diet), never refusing a meal, and are very sticky. (The carpet, over
the years, has eaten a royal urchin, two turbo snails and a good
sized yellow tang). The Sebae is gently going from white to a light
purple with darker spots in his tentacles. <Good sign> I
started with the carpet and it stayed in its spot and has never
moved. Then I put in the Sebae; it stayed in its spot and never
moved. The LTA stayed in its spot and did not move. I was happy with
my anemones and did not plan to change anything. Last week
(Thursday 11/8/07), the guy that does my water changes added a pump
to increase circulation to decrease air algae growth. The new pump
was near and above the Sebae. When I came back to my office on
Monday (11/12/07) after the weekend (the tank is in my office), the
Sebae had moved to between the carpet and the LTA so he can touch
both of the other anemones. <Mmmm> He seems to be gently
exploring/caressing both of the anemones. The LTA and the Sebae are
almost snuggling/touching each other without apparent problems. The
carpet is recoiling some (15 inches to 12 inches) yet they are still
touching occasionally. All ate today and their clowns are acting the
same. My question: I understand that the change in circulation
may have precipitated the movement. I can remove the pump. However,
I do not feel comfortable trying to move the anemones <I would
NOT> as the carpet's foot has been borrowed deep under a rock for
years and I know I would never get him off my hand not to mention
the stress on him. The LTA is also fairly well fixed too. Right now
the sebae's foot is more than six inches long and he seems happy as
he has ever been. What should I worry about and what can I do if
anything? <Enjoy them... perhaps these actinarians have "gotten
used to each other"... Have seen MANY mixes of species in the
wild... Not many in captivity. Moving them purposely is not a good
idea> Also, at the very center of the Sebae, the tentacles are
splitting into two and three tentacles. Thought you might know what
this process is (splitting or expanding)? <Possibly. Good
observation. Bob Fenner>
Re: Three snuggling anemones 11/14/07 Thank you
for your response. Your web site is excellent. I sent some pictures
if you are interested. <Very nice. Thank you. I tried a quick
look/see in my HDs for some wild pix of such mixed actinarian
groupings... but couldn't find right off. Cheers, BobF> | 
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