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Cespitularia . N. Sulawesi
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Clownfish not looking well: Likely Allelopathy Too many
anemones and polyps in a small space. 8/6/2009
<Hi Anna>
Started our saltwater tank August 2008. We adjusted our tank slowly. We
filtered our LR for a whole 30 days, then we added the sand. We waited
an additional month and began to add fish and anemone. Knowing what we
know now we would have waited longer to add the fish and anemone. We
would have
tested our levels better and researched food.
<But you are learning.>
We seemed to be doing well until two months ago. Suddenly our Firefish
became listless, not his usual zippy self. His mouth was open and he was
gasping. He has been this way for two months now, still alive somehow. I
have no idea how his feeding has been. We see him occasionally
<Something in the water or some other fish beating him up.>.
Last month one of our percula clowns became listless as well. He laid on
the bottom of the tank and just bobbed around in one spot. He didn't
appear
to eat much. His mouth was constantly open and turning translucent. He
began to lose color in his fins and his stripes began to fade a little
into his orange.
<This is a telling clue here,>
He disappeared, we have been unable to find him in our tank. We did
notice a spike in our nitrates and we did a water change to correct this
last week. Now our other percula clown has developed the same symptoms.
She is listless, not eating, mouth open and paling....none of the fish
had any substance come off of them when we performed our freshwater
dips. They don't seem to have any dots or splotches on their bodies.
<No, this isn't a disease.>
We want to find out what is wrong before we lose another. We have been
unable to find any information
on our fishes symptoms. What are we doing wrong?
<See below.>
tank: 55gallons, fully adjusted for almost a year pH and chemical
levels: normal range
<Sorry, pet peeve - What is normal? Actual values make it much easier to
diagnose.. salinity: normal <1.023 - 1.026?>
food: anemone- mysis shrimp and silversides, fish- flake food
<Fine.>
occupants: 2 percula clowns, blue damsel, Firefish, blenny, mandarin,
hermit crab, 3 snails,
<A bit crowded for a 55, but not too bad. The Mandarin is likely to
starve in such a small tank though.>
BTA, LTA, and another type of anemone whose name I have forgotten, and
numerous feather tip anemone, polyps, and corals.
<Ding! We have a winner. Too many anemones and polyps in the tank. You
essentially have a chemical war going on in your tank between the
anemones, and the various corals. Your fish are caught in the crossfire.
You will need to remove at least two of the anemones and likely some of
the polyps.. Additionally, do run carbon in your filter to soak up these
toxins.>
<Do read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/zoanthidcompfaqs.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anemcompfaqs.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/cnidcomp4.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/polypcompfaqs.htm >
<MikeV>
Anemone Stings a Mandarin – No Reading 10/07/07 Hi Crew,
<Hello Jessica, Brenda here> Did a quick search but really don't have
much time. <I’m sorry honey! I don’t exactly have much time either.
I’m watching my grandfather die, (for 34 days now and sleeping in a
chair) my son is also in the hospital. I get about 3 hours a day away
from the hospital in a 24 hour period, including my breaks for
breakfast, lunch and dinner! Yet I still manage to answer your question.
I suggest you make more time.> My green mandarin was stung by my bulb
tip anemone. I moved the mandarin <Mandarin> to QT seconds after.
His colors are very faded and he looks a little puffy. <Please
explain his habitat before the sting.> Is there a way to treat him
before I lose him? <Time will tell if he will survive the sting. My
guess is that the anemone was not its only problem.> I LOVE HIM!!!!
Please help! I will continue research awaiting your response. <That
would be a very wise choice!> Thank you Jessica <Brenda>
Re: Anemone Stings a Mandarin – No Reading 10/08/07 Sorry to
hear you are having a horrible string of luck. Things will get better,
they usually do. <I hope so! Thank you!> I did not mean I didn't
have time to research, I mean I didn't have much time because the fish
looked awful and lethargic! <It is a powerful sting. I myself have a
few scars.> All water parameters are good, ammonia, phosphate,
Nitrites, and Nitrates are all 0. My Mandarin, Kermit, was fine until he
hopped onto the anemone. Big mistake! He is still alive and finally
eating again as of this afternoon. <This is a very good sign. What
size tank was Kermit in before the sting? How much live rock? How long
has the tank been set up?> He has adjusted well to frozen brine
shrimp. <Brine shrimp is not an adequate diet. It has little
nutritional value unless it is newly hatched (less than 24 hours).>
His colors are still a bit drab though. He is still in QT. I’m a little
nervous to put him back in the display, maybe in a week or two. <I
can understand not wanting to put him back. There is also no guarantee
he won’t surf the anemone again. Provide it some hiding places while in
quarantine to reduce the stress. PVC works great.> I want him to get
strong again. Is there something I can give him to aid him in his
recovery? <Give it a more appropriate diet. More information
available here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/mandfdgfaqs.htm As far as the anemone
sting, there is nothing that you can do except provide an adequate
environment and wait. Brenda>
New Fishes, New Problems (Problems With New Fish Additions) – 09/23/07
Good morning crew. <Hi there! Scott F. in today!> First, I just
want to say thank you for donating your time like this!! I have found so
much useful information and contribute the success of the tank to some
articles on your site! <Thanks for the kind words. We have a top
notch crew of talented volunteers here on WWM, and I'm proud to be
associated with them!> I have a 75 gallon tank coral/fish and is
doing pretty well. Ammonia - 0 Nitrate - 0 Nitrite - 0 PH -
8.2 Alk - Normal Tank mates include: Clownfish Black and
White Damsel Diamond Goby Coral Banded Shrimp Atlantic Anemone
Bubble Coral Christmas Coral Assorted Polyps 4 turbo snails
Assorted blue and red crabs 2 feather dusters <Interesting mix...>
The Polyps tend to flourish in my tank growing larger and larger
everyday. The anemone, bubble and Christmas tree all seem to sustain
life but don’t seem to flourish like the polyps. <Well, anemones do
have rather demanding husbandry requirements and you really are better
off creating a system to cater to their specific needs. Categorically,
they don't do well in mixed aquariums in the long run for most people.>
I can’t seem to keep alive additional fish in the tank. I added a
Cardinal who lasted a few weeks then passed. I immediately tested the
tank and all levels were 0. Not trusting my tests I took my water to the
LFS and all levels were perfect. I tried again with a Foxface and
same result. <Curious. BTW, I think that a Foxface needs more space
than this aquarium can afford, but I don't see that as the reason whey
the fish died.> The current fish seem to do great and love life.
There does not seem to be any aggression towards anything. I have
read about other 75 gallon tanks that have twice as much livestock.
<I'm sure that there are systems out there like that. However, think
about this for a second: I have lots of friends who drive their cars
though twisty canyon at ridiculous speeds, and they never get into
accidents...Does that mean that I should also be driving outrageously
fast on the same roads? Maybe a bad analogy, but you get the picture.
For optimum success, create an environment that provides all of your
specimens conditions that they need to thrive, including conservative
stocking levels. Who cares what "other guys" do? You do what you feel is
right for your animals. That's what got you where you are!> I
attribute this to my actual water quantity. It’s a 75 gallon tank with
almost 90-100 lbs of live rock and about 75 lbs of sand. My displacement
is about 8-10 gallons. My canister filter and remora protein skimmer are
the only devices that add water quantity to the system. In your opinion
have I reached my tanks capacity? I would like additional fish but not
at the expense of their lives. <I commend you on your philosophy. I
believe that you could probably keep one or two additional small fish in
this system. I'm more concerned about your mix of inverts that I am
about your fish. It's hard to say why the fishes that you introduced
died. Could be stress from acclimation, transport, etc. It sounds like
overt aggression from other tankmates and water quality were not
factors. It really sounds like an issue related to the new fish
themselves. Review your selection process, quarantine procedure, and
fish source. Another, rather distant possibility is that there is some
sort of pathogen in your system that the existing inhabitants have
developed an immunity to, but that the new fishes were unable to
withstand. Personally, I'm leaning towards the new fishes themselves. Do
review the issues that I pointed out, and perhaps you'll have better
luck in the future! Regards, Scott F.>
E. quadricolor, Bubble Tip Anemone Not Fully Inflated, Mixed Species
Tank??? – 7/28/07 Hi there! <Hello, Brenda here!> Well I
have a bubble anemone and would just like to have a concern addressed if
possible? <I’ll try!> My water quality is perfect and lighting is
good (in fact all other anemones and inverts are happy and are growing
like mad). <All other anemones? Unless the anemones are clones, it is
likely the problem.> My bubble anemone just doesn’t fully inflate. It
rarely deflates. It's open all day long and very occasionally moves
around, but not too often, changed positions once in the last 2-3
weeks). <A moving anemone is a sign that it is unhappy. It may be
getting stung by a nearby anemone or coral.> My main concern is why
does it never fully inflate? It is inflated but not to what I have seen
it do before! I would say it is about 3 quarters fully inflated but that
is as far as it goes! Any theories? <I need more information. Are the
anemones that you keep the same species and clones? If not, I would
separate, that is likely the problem. If they are the same species and a
clone: What are the other tank mates? I also need actual water
parameters, tank size, equipment list, including lighting. How long have
you had the anemone? Have you changed anything lately, bulbs perhaps?
What do you feed, how often and what sized portions? How long has the
tank been set up?> Many thanks, Jamie <You’re Welcome! Brenda>
My entire 52g tank wiped out - Anemone Toxins - 7/26/07 <Hi
Kimmy> I have 3 saltwater aquariums: one 52g, a 40g hexagon, and a
small hospital tank.<Okay> Recently, something went through and wiped
out my entire tank. <I’m so sorry to hear that!> Not sure what it was,
and hoping I might find some answers from you all. <Hope so!> My 52g
was set up as a non-aggressive fish only tank. I had a Valentini puffer,
2 mated Clowns, a longnose butterfly, a blue tang <needs a larger tank>,
a Hawkfish, and a high hat fish in there. I also had a pink tip Haitian
anemone, a sea slug, cleaner shrimp, and a red legged hermit crab.
My problems seem to have started with getting a chocolate chip starfish.
I know that sounds crazy, <Not at all> but that's when they started. It
was a very large star with quite an appetite. Needless to say, it ate my
sea slug, and part of my anemone. <Yep, chocolate chip
stars/Protoreastor nodosus are attractive, but have big appetites – for
just about anything.> Thinking that the anemone could regenerate
itself, we left it in there. <Risky> It seemed for the first day to do
just that, but it soon after, just died. <Recovery depends on how much
damage was done, overall health prior to, and would need pristine water
conditions.> It shriveled up and turned to mush. <Not good at all> We
removed the starfish and put him into my hospital tank, by itself,
hoping to save anything else from being eaten. Apparently, the shrimp we
were feeding it wasn't enough. <Agreed> It was then that my fish
began dying. First to go was the longnose butterfly. Next was the blue
tang. These were followed by the Hawkfish, the mated <clown> pair (one
and then the other), and lastly the high hat. The only one that didn't
die was the Valentini puffer. <Tough little dude> He was taken out and
placed in with the starfish in the hospital tank because I thought there
must be something wrong with the water in the 52g. <Definitely> Needless
to say, the Valentini ate and killed my starfish. <The sea star wasn’t
the only creature with a big appetite> I swear if it's not one thing
it's another! <It sure seems that way sometimes, doesn’t it, but hang in
there!> We then placed the cleaner shrimp and the red legged hermit crab
over into the hospital tank...woke up this morning, and the darn
Valentini ate my cleaner shrimp too! I found that really strange because
they were both the best of friends in the 52g. Weird huh? <You don’t
mention what size hospital tank they were all in, but considering a
puffer’s appetite, if it’s pretty small tank/not a lot of hiding spaces,
then that’s not too surprising.> Anyhow, the water in the 52g has
been tested repeatedly and tests fine. <even ammonia?> The tank looks
great. Not sure what could have killed all of my fish. I do have a
theory on this, let me share it with you. <Sure> All of this seems to
have started after the star killed my anemone. <Yes indeed> I read
someplace that the anemone has some sort of ink <?> in them which is
poisonous. <Hmmm, nothing ink-like in an anemone> Do you think that
maybe when the star ate the anemone, it released some of that poison
into the water which could have killed all those fish? <I do believe
that the death of the anemone was the factor here. Unfortunately, when
one dies, it can pollute a tank very quickly.> Should we have removed
it right away? < In hindsight (always 20/20!), we’d both say “Yes!”,
but it’s understandable that you’d have wanted to give it a chance to
survive (especially if you were unaware of the possible consequences of
it dying). The way I see a situation like this is that although it’s
very hard on an already stressed anemone to remove it, if you think it’s
failing, it’s best to take it out. It’s just not worth the risk.> It
seemed as if all the fish who died had a really hard time breathing
prior to their passing. <Have read of the same thing happening following
anemone deaths.> The one who had it the worst was the blue tang...it
even turned colors. <Yep, majorly stressed> I felt so bad about that!
<Understandable!> I couldn't think of what to do to help it. We put it
into the hospital tank <That's what you do!> and it seemed to help, but
not much, and it died anyhow. <I’m so sorry. It must have been past
the point of no return, and/or couldn't deal with the additional stress
of capture/relocation.> The fish who died all seemed a bit
disoriented and all acted strange prior to their passing. Have you ever
heard of anything like that? <Not about being disoriented, but
acting strangely, labored breathing - yes.> Any suggestions? <As
for anemones in general, as stated earlier, they can cause real problems
in a tank when they die. That's the sort of thing that's good to know
ahead of time, and where researching the animals you plan to keep comes
in handy. A complication with anemones is that with all that soft
tissue, once they do die, decomposition can progress pretty rapidly.
Please see WWM FAQ’s for more on incidents like this (starting here):
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anemhlthfaq6.htm > Should we empty the
tank, clean it, and start completely over with it? <You can if you
want, but I don’t think it’s necessary. I’d do several (at least three)
large (at least 50%) water changes, run carbon, monitor water chemistry,
and let the tank go fallow for about a month.> Is there something I
can put in the water to make it ok for fish? <Unfortunately, no> Tests
o.k.'s I dunno...unless it's that poison from the anemone. <My guess as
well> Can't think of what else it would be. I hate thinking about having
to empty it completely and start over when there is so much money into
that tank already, <Agreed> it's been cycled and looks great. One
thing I noticed too, after the star ate the anemone, the tank became so
clean. <Hmmm> Prior to, we had a brown algae problem which was being
handled by the turbo snails and the sea slug, the cleaner shrimp, and
the red legged crab...but then BAM white clean. Almost like everything
was bleached clean, but no bleach was near that tank. I can assure you
that. Weird huh? <Mmmm, yes. Not sure what the deal was there>
Another thing that caught my attention, and I thought maybe could have
started this: During one of our last visits to the fish store, we picked
up some more turbo snails for the tank. One of the snails had some green
stuff on its back which we assumed was algae and thought not a lot
about. That green stuff turned into bubbles of sorts. It looked really
gross. Any idea what that stuff might have been? <Was it slimy? It
sounds like Cyano/BGA - tons of info at WWM about this stuff.> Could it
have been responsible for killing off my tank? <No> Be aware, during
all of this, my water levels showed great. so I just haven't a clue what
happened. <I’m surprised that the ammonia levels weren’t elevated, but
??> Please help, Kimmy <Hope the above info helps. Again, sorry
for your loss! Take care - Lynn)
Condylactis passiflora, intra species contention? Oh! Yes
7/10/07 Hi Crew, I have a minor but nagging problem with two
small (3-4cm Foot size) Condylactis passiflora anemones in a small 25G
Aqua-One 620 tank They have shared it with a Maroon clown <Needs
more room...> and a royal Dottyback for about 7 months (tank about 4
years old). The lighting is quite poor ( 1 x 18W actinic and 1 X 18 W
14000K HPC) , but the tank is short, and they are halfway up it
(probably about 25cm from light) and I feed them very small pieces of
krill and silverside to try and make up for it about once a week and
they have always seemed happy. About a month after I bought it this
anemone divided (hence the two now), and ever since I noticed that
always one or the other would look happy (large, extended) and the other
not , but never both at the same time. <Interesting> Is it
possible that even though these were originally the same animal, that
they are now inhibiting each other via allelopathy? <I believe this
might be so. Perhaps though genetically identical there is something
here in the way of a mechanism to/driving distribution...> Just
recently both moved due to my letting the water quality lapse (Nitrates
got a bit high), and have resettled, but even though the quality has
been fixed (PH 8.2, Salinity 1.025, Nitrates >40ppm, no Nitrites or
Ammonia, Temp 24C) for about 3 weeks now, and all the other
inhabitants are happy ( even three fussy Sabella feather dusters and
other various little telltale tube worms I have) these two have both
remained "Stubby looking" for almost 3 weeks, tentacles completely
withdrawn and stubby (not actually closed up except for nighttime) and
very small . They still accept food, and seem to ingest it , but no
improvement. Could it be as simple as the light intensity finally
bothering them? <Yes... and/or residual challenge/toxicity> I
found a bristleworm about a month ago and decided to err on the side of
caution and remove it, as it looked like one of the more predatory ones,
have since seen some little tunnels made of substrate that I have come
to suspect the bristleworms make appear here and there , would predatory
bristleworms bother these guys? <Could, yes> The only other
suspect is the clown, the anemone(s) established a quick relationship
(not that they had a lot of choice) with him and both seemed happy with
it. Since they have shriveled he is most unhappy about it and noses them
all the time wanting them to open properly so he can ruffle in their
tentacles, it may be that they are not appreciating his company any more
(have had the same experience with some women myself ;-) ) <Mmmm,
watch this... they're reading nowadays... and likely pretty soon will
demand the right to vote, equal pay for equal work...> One more
thing, I have not paid much attention to calcium/hardness/alkalinity in
the water as the interrelationship of these factors and what they really
mean to the water has always escaped me, no matter how hard I have tried
to get a picture of their importance. Have pretty much always hoped that
if Salinity and PH are OK in a crushed shell based substrate with Live
rock, and I'm not adding anything, then these would probably be at
acceptable levels. <This, these traits, characteristics/qualities
have ways of catching up with you...> Can you please suggest which of
these factors is most important, that I should focus on
testing/understanding, e.g.. should I just measure calcium and be done
with it? <Mmm, would be a good idea to do a bit of reading...>
Would appreciate any feedback Cheers, Rama <Do give a read re
Premnas systems, alkalinity and pH, biominerals... and Small marine
systems period on WWM... the indices, search tool... "that'll be
quite... time-consuming, mmmm". Bob Fenner>
Re: Marine Aquarium Setup 7/5/07 Dear Chris, <Hello> Thank
you for responding to my last email and answering my questions. I was
wondering exactly what kind of corals that would be best fit in my tank
given the animals and corals I have listed that I currently have from my
last email. <I would not mix any corals with anemones.> Since it will be
at least 90 gallons and 60" long and about 18"-20" tall I will have a
lot of space. Also, what lighting would best fit these corals and
benefit my tank the most. Thanks, Connor <The chemical warfare
that will occur between the corals and anemones make it very difficult
to mix these creatures. I do not recommend any corals while you have the
anemone.> <Chris>
Anenome problem, repro. – 07/03/07 Hi, My husband's reef
aquarium is 90 gal, we have had it for 2 years with little or no
problems. Tonight, he fed his fish, brine and Mysis, the usual diet,
within 20 minutes the 2 bubble tip anenomes <Are these clones? I do
hope so> were emitting a white substance that has totally clouded the
tank. <Mmm, very likely sex products...> He tested the water,
everything has tested normal, along with the salinity. The fish seem
o.k., along with the corals. We do not know what is happening with the
anenomes. We have no R.O. water on hand to do a partial change and
cannot see into the tank to remove the anenomes. We only hope that when
we wake up tomorrow that we will not loose <lose> any of our fish.
We have no new additions to our tank, the current fish have been in the
tank along with the anenomes for over a year. Can you shed any light on
this? Thanks so much. Janice <As stated, this is likely a
reproductive event... Actinarians/Anemones do this as well as various
degrees of asexual fission. Neat! I would make the largish water
changes... and add activated carbon to your filter flow path... and
spiff up (clean) your skimmer... Hopefully all the gametes will be
eaten, removed, otherwise not cause a crash here. Cheers, Bob Fenner>
Help! Everything is dying, induced prob.s from mis-stocking a small SW
sys. 6/22/07 <Yeeikes!> Since November 2006, I have had
a 24 gallon salt water aquarium. All the parameters (ph, nitrites,
ammonia, nitrates, salinity, temperature) are in the normal range. I do
bi-weekly water changes. Up until a week ago, the tank was thriving and
doing well. In the past week; I have had my 6-line wrasse, <Needs
more room...> the Chromis, the goby, and the feather duster all die.
What I have left is a Clarks Clown Fish, <Perhaps the aggressor,
factor here> an anemone, <This is too small a volume to house this
animal> 2 skunk shrimp, 2 crabs, 1 starfish, <Species?>
mushrooms, <Toxic with the anemone...> and snails. Prior to
the death of any fish I had added some live rock with purple-teal
mushrooms established on the rock. A couple of days later, I found 2
dead fish. So, immediately I checked everything and everything was in
ideal ranges. <Mmm, I/we should qualify your stmt. that "Everything
you tested" seemed perfect... There are many aspects for which there are
no tests (currently)> After the death of the 1st two fish; we found a
break in the pump wire and thought that my fish my have been
electrocuted. We replaced the pump. <Yikes!> Today, I found my
Gobi in the "mouth" of my anemone. I didn't know that an anemone was a
carnivore. <Oh yes...> So, now what do I check. I am in the dark
about what to do. Please Help! Janet <Pretty simple and yet
time-involved... You need to read re the species you have... their
Compatibility, Systems especially... on WWM... Please learn to/use the
search tool, indices... What you list is incompatible, too crowded to
"give you much chance" of success... Likely negative interaction twixt
the anemone and shrooms poisoned all... Bob Fenner>
Re: Help! Everything is dying 6/23/07 Just curious,
why would things start dying now? They have been together in the tank
for 6 months without any problems? <... read on... your msg., where
you were referred re compatibility. B>
Nudibranch/Anemone
Slime Upsetting Fish? Yep! 6/6/07 Hello, <Greetings, Mich with
you today.> I had a quick question about the effects of nudibranch or
anemone slime on fish. I added a rock flower anemone, a couple cerith
snails, and a lettuce nudibranch (I got a bit of hair algae for him to
get rid of) into my tank today and while acclimating them and adding
them into the tank a great deal of the slime they had produced while in
their bags went into the water. <Yikes!> I tried to remove some
of it but couldn't get it all. Anyway, about 2 hours after adding in
these items my four fish (2 true Percs, a bicolor blenny, and a purple
Pseudochromis) began to scratch their faces/ gills on rocks. They
then stopped for a while but began to scratch again a few hours later.
<Likely a reaction to the toxins introduced into the system.> I have
had a problem in the past with ich but I made sure to quarantine all the
fish for 6 weeks using hypo salinity and left the main tank free of fish
as well. The hypo salinity seemed to work as all the fish returned to a
relaxed state and their symptoms of ich went away so after their long
quarantine period they were reintroduced into the main tank. It has been
2-3 months since this outbreak and they have shown no signs of ich
since. I have also added no new fish into the tank since then. <Ok.>
Basically, my question is whether or not their sudden scratching could
be from the introduction of these new inverts and the slime they
produced during their long journey from the fish store or if the fish
have ich or some other parasite infestation again and just be chance
they didn’t begin to feel it until 2 hours after I introduced the new
items? <Probably a result of the chemical hazards added to your
tank.> After testing my water my results were normal. <Ok.> In
your opinion, should I prepare for a possible parasite infestation or
wait and observe the fish before acting? <I would wait and observe,
though this stress response can weaken the immune system allowing
parasitic organisms a more favorable foothold.> Also, do fish ever
scratch on rocks to mark territory? <Mmm, not that I'm aware of.>
I am guessing the answer is no but it was worth asking because my fish
seemed to all scratch on the rocks around the same time and then
suddenly stop almost in unison. <Again, no doubt a response to
environmental stress. You should add an extra bag of carbon ASAP and
consider a larger water change.> Thanks for any advice you can give
me and sorry if this has been answered before. <Hope this helps.
Mich> Combining Anemone
Species...Never Recommended - 05/27/07 Hi, <<Hello>> I
have a dilemma going on in my tank. <<Let's see if I can help resolve
it>> I have a Condy and a Long Tentacle Anemone in my 55 gal tank
<<Not compatible>> - I know, wrong thing to do, but as most new salt
water aquarists, we didn't do our homework first. <<Ahh...so you have
learned from the experience then?>> It's been a learning experience
for us- with a quickness. <<Hee-hee!...Indeed>> Anyway, needless
to say, the Condy decided to take a ride with the currents, found itself
on top of our fairly large LTA, but we weren't home when their meeting
took place. <<Uh-oh...and the Condylactis Anemone's sojourn was
likely due to these animals sensing each other/releasing stinging cells
to the water column...>> We were gone a few hours, but when we came
home the LTA was completely pulled inside out I think boot, and
tentacles all rolled into one small grey/white ball with tiny tentacles
hanging out. <<Definitely a sign of distress>> What should I do to
help him to get better? <<Remove the Condylactis...assure optimum
water quality>> For now, I was told to get a strawberry container and
cage the Condy until I find him a new home. What is your suggestion?
<<As stated...the animals can/will sense each others presence and have
the capacity to wage war from afar. You need to "remove the Condylactis
Anemone from the aquarium">> Anxiously waiting your oh so
knowledgeable advice. Thanks, Carolyn <<Glad to be of service.
EricR>>
Condylactis vs. Long Tentacle Anemone - 5/28/07 Hi <Hi
Carolyn, Brenda here> I have a dilemma going on in my tank. I have a
Condy and a long tentacle anemone in my 55 gal tank. <Yikes!> I
know, wrong thing to do, but as most new salt water aquarists, we didn't
do our homework first. It's been a learning experience for us- with
quickness. Anyway, needless to say, the Condy decided to take a ride
with the currents, found itself on top of our fairly large LTA, but we
weren't home when their meeting took place. <How long has your tank
been established?> We were gone a few hours, but when we came home
the LTA was completely pulled inside out I think boot, and tentacles all
rolled into one small grey/white ball with tiny tentacles hanging out.
<Grey / white ball does not sound good.> I'm not sure if he is dead
or what I should do to help him to get better. For now, I was told to
get a strawberry container and cage the Condy until I find him a new
home. What is your suggestion? <You definitely need to separate
them. I need more information regarding your tank to know if you are
able to support an anemone. The fact that one took a ride in the current
tells me something else may be going on. Please give me your equipment
list, other tank mates, tank size, age of set up, age of bulbs, and all
of your water parameters. A picture of the LTA would also help.>
Anxiously waiting your oh so knowledgeable advice. Thanks, Carolyn
<You're welcome! Brenda>
One More Thing Re: Condylactis vs. Long Tentacle Anemone - 5/28/07
One more thing...I don't have a 2nd salt water tank...its Memorial Day
weekend, fish stores closed, what shall I do in the mean time for my
LTA's safety? Can I really cage the Condy with a strawberry container?
<You can, by placing the basket over the anemone. It may be a bit
stressful on the anemone. You could also watch it closely while you are
at home.> How many watts of light should we have in our 55 gal tank
for anemones? <It really depends on what type of bulb you are using.
Are you using metal halide, T-5 or PC bulb?> What type/brand do you
recommend? <I prefer metal halide or T-5 bulbs. Any name brand bulb
should be fine.> Also what do you know about brown/ kind of like
hair algae growing on all /actually some of our rocks? <New tank?
Brenda> New Bubble Tip Anemone, New System, Over
Stocking – 5/13/07 Hi Bob - Thanks for the site - certainly the
first port of call for any queries. <Hi Colin, Brenda
here! Thanks for the positive feedback! I received both of your
e-mails and I will answer both together.> Yesterday we bought a
large bubble anemone. On the receipt, it called it a "purple base maroon
anemone", but I cannot find references to that on the web. <Try
searching Bubble Tip Anemone and/or Entacmaea quadricolor.> We were
told at the store that the anemone likes to adhere to rocks, rather than
the sand at the bottom of the tank. However, when we put it on a rock
near the top (to be close to the light) it quickly detached and started
floating around. This was a worry, because we also have a large carpet
anemone that seems to be doing fine, and we didn't want the two to come
into contact with each other. <Two different anemone species should
not be kept in the same tank.> Anyway, the anemone seemed to like
the gravel at the bottom of the tank better. It became very large indeed
(dinner plate size), and even looked as though it may be splitting. It
seemed to be starting to settle. It looked great actually. But when I
got up this morning the entire anemone was sandwiched between two large
(40lb) rocks. It has flattened itself out, and is sitting a wide but
thin the crevice between the rocks. It does not seem to have reduced its
surface area that much - but it is flat like a pancake in the crevice.
My guess is that it may be responding to the stress of being manhandled
a lot last night. <I don’t recommend handling the anemone, other
than to place into the tank. There is a lot of stress involved when an
anemone is moved from one place to another. This includes from the LFS
to your home.> But is it dying? <I don’t know, would have to see
a picture.> Ours is a new system; we finished the cycle three weeks
ago, and everything looks good. <Ouch!!!!! New
system? Anemones need stable, established environments. Most systems
take 6 months to a year to become established.> We have a 120 gallon
tank with a 50 gallon refugium. We live on the beach in south Florida so
we filled the tank from the sea. Nitrates, nitrites and ammonia all look
good. We have a protein skimmer. Circulation is good. When we put the
anemone in, we noticed the pH was only 7.8 so we put some buffer in.
<I don’t recommend the use of pH buffers. You need to be monitoring
calcium, alkalinity and magnesium, with a full understanding of their
relationship to each other.> We did a 20% water change about 4 days
ago. Also, our temperature might be a bit high at 80-83. <80 – 81 is
fine, anything higher is too warm.> We have only 4 60W 2 foot
fluorescent bulbs providing light. We are working on getting some more
light. <That is not nearly enough lighting for either anemone. Both
of your anemones will quickly decline under your current lighting.>
Over the last three weeks we have put in: A large carpet anemone, a
sail fin tang, a powder brown tang, two saddle back clowns, a volitans
lion (not eating dead food yet, but showing promise), 3 sally lightfoot
crabs, 2 emerald crabs 15 assorted hermits, + 1 small blue damsel left
over from the cycle. Everything has been doing fine. <You are WAY
over stocked for such a new tank.> Yesterday we added: Two large
black percula clowns, they fought a little with the saddles, but seem to
have calmed down, pretty much kicked the saddles off the carpet anemone.
<Your system is too small for more than one pair of clownfish. They
will eventually fight until the death of one or more.> The bubble
anemone, Two electric flame scallops (one of these might have come into
contact with the anemone.) <You need to slow down here. I suggest
returning the two anemones. At this stage in your new system, I
recommend keeping no more than the damsel and one pair of the clownfish,
at the very most. Everything else should be returned. Please search
WWM regarding cycling, stocking, toxic water, live stock compatibility,
and established systems.> Thanks for any help, Colin Second
E-mail from Colin: Bob - Sorry for repeat mail. I have something
to add to my previous mail: part of the anemone can be seen through the
back of the tank. The tentacles are somewhat inflated. <It is
stressed, and will only decline.> It seems to be sucking in one of
the scallops. I cannot reach in there to pull off the scallop, and I
don’t want to move the rock because it is very heavy, and I will
probably damage the anemone. <Not a good situation you are in. The
anemone will not do well in your system. Moving it is going to cause
stress. However, removing and returning the anemone is going to be the
best option for the long term health of the anemones.> Thanks again,
Colin <You’re Welcome! Brenda> Re: Cinnamon update,
iatrogenic troubles 4/30/07 Greetings again!
I thought I would update you on the 36 bowfront. I had the sebae and the
carpet with the two cinnamons. with lots of macroalgae planted in the
sandbed) Well, there was a "disaster" but not what I was expecting from
your advice. As soon as I made up my mind to find a new home for the
sebae, The weirdest thing happened. I got up in the morning and
inspected the tank, and lo and behold, the decorator crab (approx 6
inches) <!> had white "tuffs" of something attached all over his
legs....now this little bugger had eaten my scooter blennies so I gave
up adding any more creatures to my tank. <Good> Any way, my eye
caught something floating at the top, and yes, you guessed it, it was
the dead sebae. <...> I immediately scooped it out and did a
water change. When I got home from work that night, all was well. That
weekend, I fell totally in love with a huge blood shrimp. I brought him
home and acclimated him. He is so beautiful!! My friends had mentioned
that the decorator crab could eat my shrimp (YIKES!) <Yes> so I
delegated the decorator crab to the sump/refugium of my frag tank and
immediately put the word out that he is free to a good home. Now, my
sump/refugium was built by a friend and it is modified with a small
"box" like area to hold the pump portion of the skimmer so the
macroalgae won't be "sucked" into the intake areas of the pump. I
thought this was a totally cool modification). The skimmer was not in
this boxed area yet, as I am in the process of upgrading my Prizm. Now
Sebastian was very happy in the refugium, pulling pieces of macroalgae
off and decorating himself. One morning I couldn't find him amongst the
prolific Caulerpa (sp?). That fact slipped my mind and several days went
by. I finally got in there to trim the macroalgae and poor Sebastian
(may he rest in peace) had committed suicide by getting himself stuck in
the skimmer "box" area! I fished him out (giving him the appropriate
burial at sea so to speak). That being said, would it be safe to add
another blood shrimp to the 36 bowfront? <Likely so> To recap,
the inhabitants are: 4 inch cinnamon, 2 inch cinnamon, carpet anemone,
scissortail damsel, 6 or 7 very large hermit crabs, <... I would
give these away> (living in turbo snail shells) a mystery hermit, a
blood shrimp. some assorted snails and a serpent star. It is filtered by
a hang on refugium and a CPR backpack with about 30 pounds of live rock.
The female cinnamon is letting the male come around the carpet and he
sits on the edge. I don't see him "sleeping" in the carpet, which is
probably a good idea since he may become dinner for the carpet since he
is so small. <No... you need to read my friend...> NOW the
female is sleeping UNDER the carpet. (which is attached to the rock
approx in the middle portion of the tank) There have been may weeks of
courtship dancing, so I don't know if she is trying to lay eggs, or
what. In the beginning I just wanted them to get along, but yesterday I
ordered every book I could find about clownfish. Thank you again for
such a wonder site, and keep up the excellent work! Julie <Am
endeavouring to do so... Cheers, BobF> Mixing Anemones and Sessile
Inverts. 4/26/07 I have a 155 gal. tank with different
polyps, pink branch birdsnest, and xenia. I have a bulb anemone that
has been in my tank for about six mon. I found a rose bulb that I want
to trade mine in for. I plan to have more corals nothing fancy just the
type I have and maybe a brain, plate, and open brain will an anemone
walk around and sting and kill your corals, <Tis a risk, one that
many people take and are happy with....but a risk nonetheless.> I
would hate to pay this much for an anemone just to get rid of it one
day. <Depends on if the risk is worth it, and only you can answer
than question. For me personally, it's not a risk I would take again, as
I <? RMF> Puffer and BTA as Tank Mates? 4/18/07 Hi again,
<Hello, Brenda here> I had another question, this one
about my Saddled Valentini Puffer. He lives in a FOWLR tank with a
fuzzy dwarf lionfish. I have been considering a BTA, and the puffer
tank is the only one without corals so it seemed to be a good choice for
the anemone. <Puffers and anemones should never be kept together.>
I have read that every puffer is different and some may not pick on
coral and inverts but others will. I know that my puffer will eats
snails, but there have been polyps and 2 small mushrooms that appeared
on the rock and he has never bothered those. I guess my question should
be: Is there some way to know if my puffer will kill a BTA without just
putting one in there and waiting to see? <It is safe to assume here
that it will nip at the anemone.> I would rather not risk the life
of the anemone without some assurance. This might sound stupid, but
what if I put a fake anemone in there and see if he chews on it? (don't
laugh) I'm hoping that you have a better suggestion. Carrie <My
only suggestion here is to avoid this combination completely. Brenda>
Death of LTA Causing Pollution – 3/29/07 Hi crew, <Hello,
Brenda here> I haven’t written in a while, but have a somewhat
urgent question that I can’t find the answer to. I had a purple long
tentacle anemone that mysteriously decided to leave his spot in a rock
and apparently somehow tore his foot in the process. He actually looked
as if I had forcibly moved it. I never touched it by the way.
<Did it come in contact with a power head?> Anyway it was injured
and then began to go downhill and within a couple of days totally
disintegrated, died and had to be removed. In the process of removing
it, it pretty much came apart and many parts of it (very small parts)
went everywhere throughout the tank. <Yikes!> The
tank is 150 gallon with a large ASM skimmer so I wasn’t too concerned
and figured that the skimmer would take care of getting the stuff out of
the water, along with the crabs. <Not necessarily fast enough. I
suggest a large water change also. I also don’t recommend crabs with
anemones. Crabs have been known to pester and attack these creatures.>
I have no idea what happened to make him move or why he died, but my
question really is this: I have a tube anemone that I have had about
two weeks. <Your tube anemone is likely the reason your LTA decided
to move. You should not house two anemones in one system.> He has
been very active and healthy, stays totally open all the time and looks
gorgeous; he has never closed since I have had it. This morning I get
up and the tube anemone is TOTALLY closed. <Check your
water parameters.> I have not seen this at all since I got it. Last
night he was wonderful and seemed normal. Could he be suffering some
sort of reaction to the death of the purple anemone? <Yes, from the
pollution.> I have heard something about toxins getting in the tank
when anemones die. Would this have happened and caused the other to have
problems? <Yes, ammonia is extremely toxic.> My
water parameters were tested the day before the purple anemone died and
they were all perfect. No ammonia, no nitrates, nitrites, phosphates,
SG1.024, <Salinity at 1.026 is best for anemones.> Temp is
always 78-81 night to day and I have lots of light MH and actinic,
lots. The calcium is steady at 440 to 460 and the ph 8.4. These tests
were the day before the purple anemone death; I have not tested this
morning. Any help or insight into this would be most helpful. I don’t
want to lose this other anemone too. <You definitely need to monitor
your water parameters closely after something dies. Have saltwater
ready at all times in case of an emergency.> Thanks, Debi
<You’re welcome! Brenda> Help with Gorgonian and anemone
3/29/07 Hello, <Hi there> It was suggested I contact
"Fenner or Borneman" <Mmmm, EricB is elsewhere> In reference to
what seems to be an anemone that came with a "blueberry" gorgonian that
I got. The gorgonian has changed colors and I thought it was dead, but
it appears to be growing at the tips, so I don't know if it is dead or
some dormant state or shed its tissue or what. <Mmm, these and many
other octocorals can/do change color from lighting, feeding, water
quality circumstances...> The other question is did the anemone
injure or kill the gorgonian? <Maybe> I'm told it is a wrapping
gorgonian anemone. Here is the thread where there has been some
discussion:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s= <http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1082557>
&threadid=1082557 Any help and/or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks, Rick <Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/index.htm Scroll down to
the tray on Anemones, the articles and FAQs toward the bottom there on
Aiptasia, Anemonia, Other Pest Anemones. Bob Fenner> Butterfly
Attacking Anemone 3/19/07 Hello <Hi! Mich here.> I
love your site and it has helped answer a lot of my questions in the
past. <Glad to hear!> However, 2 days ago I stopped into the
fish store and since my tank has cycled I was interested in maybe
purchasing and anemone. I told the owners what I had in my tank: only a
raccoon butterfly fish and a cleaner shrimp... <Anemones and Raccoon
Butterfly are NOT suitable tank mates.> I was not really planning on
purchasing anything when I came in and stupidly did not do any
research, <Hopefully, you will not repeat this mistake.>
however, the owner said that they would not bother it and recommended
a Haitian pink tip anemone. <This is why YOU have to do the
research. Anemones are the Raccoon Butterflyfish (Chaetodon lunula) most
favorite snack, sort of like chocolate for many women... a temptation
too great to resist. In fact, if a newly introduced Raccoon
Butterflyfish is not eating when introduced, one trick to get it to feed
is to offer a small anemone. More here and links in blue:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/raccoon.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/condybehfaq.htm > At this time
I also purchased a small piece of pulsing xenia with a small piece
of hard coral attached. <Anemones are the favorite but
no inverts or corals are safe with this fish. Xenia will likely be
eaten also. More here and links in blue: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/xeniidarts.htm >
All seemed fine the day I brought it home and yesterday but this
evening I came home and found my butterfly fish biting my anemone.
<Yep!> I threw some Mysis in the tank to try to distract it and then
proceeded to remove the anemone and presently have it in a ventilated
plastic box in my aquarium. <A temporary solution.> After this I
started looking on the Internet and found out that they are one of
their predators, correct? <Absolutely.> The anemone is able to
attach itself to the side of the box but on some of its tentacles where
it was bitten, it is fine up until the bite and is all shriveled up and
grey and droopy. <Mmm, yes, is unhappy… lost an appendage...> I
was wondering if it would be able to recover and what were its chances?
<Hopefully.> or if you has any suggestions. <Yes, return the
anemone. These creatures are, in my opinion, disasters waiting to
happen because of their mobile tendency. Then get the bible: The
Conscientious Marine Aquarist by Robert M. Fenner... read it. Decide if
you want a fish only tank or a reef tank and plan accordingly.>
Thank you <Welcome! -Mich> Overstocked with Anemones
3/13/07 Hi, <Hello, Brenda here> I couldn't find the
answer to this, I have looked. I have a BioCube 29. It is 4 months
old. It's doing pretty well, except the nitrates are 20. <Need to
be zero.> We are working on this and have just installed a protein
skimmer. <Good> I now know not to trust the LFS.
<Excellent!> They said a Sebae was a hardy anemone. <It is
considered a difficult anemone. Your tank is not old enough for an
anemone.> It is still a light brown, it looks pretty healthy, but it
has picked up and wants to hide behind rocks. I have been trying to
feed it Mysis shrimp with baster. I can't tell if it's taking it
because it closes up kind of. <Anemones will compress to get the
food to their mouth. Sounds to me like it is eating.> It's never
been sticky since we've had it, about three weeks. <It’s not a
healthy anemone if it is not sticky. It’s able to hold on to food? It
should be sticky then.> It also turns upside down or on its side and
keeps half way closed. Its mouth is not gaping. We have a blue
damsel, lawnmower blenny, 2 Turbos, an emerald crab, 2 clowns (Nemos),
button polyps, a rock anemone, mushrooms, and a "common" anemone (kind
of white with pinkish tips). <You have too many anemones. More than
one species to a tank will cause problems. Your tank is also border
line for one anemone, unless you are experienced with anemones. Crabs
can not be trusted with anemones.> Should I take the Sebae back to
the store so it can live? <Yes> It seemed quite healthy when I
got it. It's a good fish store, it's just that some employees don't
know enough it seems. <You need to research before you
purchase.> Is my tank too crowded? <Yes> It is very
peaceful. <There is likely chemical war going on in a 29 gallon tank
housing three anemones. It is not peaceful.> Thanks Millions,
Amy <You’re welcome. Brenda> Re: Overstocked with
Anemones 3/13/07 Hello, I read further before you answered
and realized that at the very least, I don't have the light. <Yes,
that is a big problem.> I just hate the thought of killing something
and I have a three year old running around and she doesn't understand I
have to read. <I also hate the thought of something dieing. Ouch, 3
year old and reading? I remember those days! However, you also have a
responsibility to the animals that you bring into your home. Saltwater
tanks need attention too.> We took it back this afternoon. <Good
to hear.> They thought it was healthy enough, so that's good. The
weird thing though is that I asked about the common anemone and the rock
anemone having the chemical warfare like you said and he said "no, it's
more of a contact kind of thing". He also said a white Sebae is fine.
<Sorry, he lied to you, or he just doesn’t have the knowledge. I’m sure
he has no written documentation to back that statement up.> It's
when they are translucent that it is a problem. <That is also a
problem. It usually comes right after or with the bleaching, or the
expelling of zooxanthellae, which is the same as bleaching.> He
wouldn't argue with me, he just said he doesn't believe in the internet.
<I’m sure he doesn’t. There is too much information available. It is
likely hurting his business.> He also said he's one of the best fish
breeders in the country. <He may be one of the best fish breeders in
the country. His fish may be healthy. Then again, he may not be
telling the truth. A “white” Sebae is far from healthy.> I
understand that everyone has their opinions about what works best, but
these two things seem like factual matters. What's a person to believe?
<You are correct, these are factual matters. Believe yourself; take
some time to do your own research. I have spent years researching these
creatures, and feel confident in the advice I give others. Have you
given any thought to joining a local reef club?> I believe you guys
100%. The only thing I will add to my tank is more live rock. I
couldn't get the common anemone off his rock, but I will bring him back
too when he does let go. Do you think those two are fighting and I
can't see it? I can't yank him off, but I can work on it. <No,
yanking on an anemone. You will tear him. Try aiming a power head at
him to get him to move. They do not have to be next to each other to
sense their presence.> Since I have you here, do you think I should
get rid of the lawnmower? He does eat flakes and pellets and Mysis.
<They survive on algae. There are algae type foods that you can give
him.> He was recommended also. I guess it's a lot of stuff for an
employee to know, but I wish they would tell me they don't know if they
don't. <Yes, we all wish that. Remember, they are they for your
money. Walk in with some knowledge.> You know, I had a tank over 15
years ago, fish only with one anemone. He was great for a long time and
he had a clown fish. One day he just died. Now I know why. Not enough
light. Things were somewhat different back then. I'm surprised at all
the changes. <Yes, technology and research has come a long way.>
Really, Thanks a Lot!! Amy <You did the right thing
Amy! Remember to research before you buy. Brenda>
Sebae...
anemone, Carpet and Euphyllia, in a 36 gal., oh my! 2/26/07
Hello Wetwebmedia crew! <Julie> I recommend your site to all of
our fellow reefers, and I use it often myself. Thank you for this vital
and informative service. Now to my question. I have a 36 gallon
bowfront with 96 watt power compacts. I have a carpet anemone <A
dangerously small volume for this/these species> that hosts a 4 inch
cinnamon clown.( I know he is a little large, but I'm a sucker for fish
no one wants. He was brought into the fish store as an exchange, and
looked so pitiful I adopted him) The are inseparable. Now, I purchased a
considerably smaller cinnamon approximately 1.5 inches. He happily
adapted to his surroundings, but, being the intelligent little creature
he is, he steered clear of the carpet for what I assume are two reasons:
the larger cinnamon won't let him anywhere near his carpet, and he
didn't want to become lunch for that same carpet. <All take time to
"become familiar"... as you're likely aware> So, he persistently
rubbed all three heads off of my frogspawn. (sigh). <Yikes... this
Euphylliid is in this small volume with a Carpet?> I purchased a
sebae anemone for him and both are happily living in the opposite corner
of the tank after a period of traveling around finding just the right
spot. <A time bomb...> Now, my question is, after reading about
coloration of the sebae, mine is the "stark white" color with purple
tips. <Bleached...> It has been this way since purchase
approximately 2 months ago. The carpet was a very white color also when
I purchased it a year ago, but since turned a dingy brownish color.
(after reading up on anemones, I assume this is a good thing) <Mmm,
yes... is improving.... reincorporating zooxanthellae...> Now, the
sebae settled down at the bottom of the tank and has remained there for
the last couple of weeks. It looks full and healthy, but the color
concerns me. Will it take on the dingy brown color like my carpet?
<Perhaps in time... but much more likely you will have an extreme-enough
allelopathogenic event here... with the clowns being killed, and all
else... with one of the anemones being last "to go"> Both anemones
eat small chopped up "prime reef" and "squid" about once a week or
longer. I have a hob refugium and a CPR backpack with 1/3 of the space
being taken up with live rock. I also have quite a bit of macro algae
growing in the tank (rooted in the sand) <Good... this gear and the
algae have forestalled the event mentioned above> various snails and
hermits, a cleaner shrimp, a decorator crab and small black scissor
tailed damsel. (oh I almost forgot a brittle star that I only see with
the flashlight when lights are out). This tank has never had anything
expire in it save for the occasional war over a shell between a hermit
and snail. About six months ago I had an outbreak of brown algae, which
the snails cleaned up promptly and still keep everything nice and clean.
So do you think my sebae being so white will "color up" given more time?
<I think all will die if the anemones are not separated> I was quite
surprise to read where the white color is not a good thing, since every
single sebae I have seen at the local fish stores are the stark white
color with the purple tips that look exactly like mine. Thank you
for all that you do for our hobby (i.e.-read here addiction) Julie B
<Please read here (heeee!):
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anemcompfaqs.htm and the linked files
above. Bob Fenner> Anemone vs. Xenia...Help! 2/20/07
My anemone relocated right next to my zennia. <Uh-oh.> It keeps
taking the zennia <xenia> in its mouth and now some of the zennia
branches are dropping of as they act like they have been strangled.
<They are being attacked both physically and chemically.> I don't
know how to move the anemone or the zennia.<xenia> <I would suggest
searching WWM re fragging the xenia...it is my opinion that the anemone
would be more difficult in forcefully removing the anemone (if it has
"rooted"). Another option is relocating the entire rock to another "more
undesirable" spot in the tank to encourage the anemone to move
elsewhere. Unfortunately this is one of the possible outcomes when you
mix moving cnidaria like anemones and sessile invertebrates.> please
advise. thanks you <Adam J.> Mandarin & anemone
compatibility 2/20/07 Hi, I'm currently setting
up a 75 gallon aquarium. I've just finished building my 29 gallon sump,
and am going to drill my tank for the plumbing in the next week. I plan
on getting about 100 pounds of live rock. I'll put like 5 or so pounds
in the sump so pods can reproduce. I also have a refugium area in the
sump to grow some macro. Ever since I saw a mandarin I've wanted
one. They're awesome looking creatures. I think that I should have
enough food for a mandarin (after waiting about a year for the pod
population to go up of course). I have also always wanted a clownfish
(Amphiprion ocellaris) and anemone pair. Now, onto my questions. A
bubble-tip anemone will host a clown right? Can one large anemone host
two clownfish? I thought that I read on your site somewhere that you
shouldn't mix an anemone and a mandarin because the mandarin can fall
victim to the anemone. Is this true? If it is, can you attempt to place
the anemone away from most of the rock in the tank so the mandarin is
less likely to go near or sleep next to the anemone? I'm still a
ways away from getting water in my tank, let alone getting fish or
inverts. Planning is always a good thing though. Thanks in advance,
Joe <<Joe: Most likely you heard something about not mixing carpet
anemones with Mandarins. Mandarins are slow and tend to hang out at the
bottom of a tank and carpets are very sticky. When you are ready, your
best bet for a starter anemone would be a Bubble Tip Entacmaea
quadricolor clone that has split in another Reefkeeper's tank. They are
pretty hardy and you won't be trying to take care of an anemone that was
just pulled out of the ocean. The Bubble Tip will tend to stay high up
on your rocks near the lights. Thus, there is less of a chance that the
Mandarin would bump into it. Regarding the clowns, if you can purchase
captive bred ones which have been raised with anemones, your clowns will
host right away. If not, it could take months for the clowns to host,
if ever. If you have the anemone already established in the tank when
you introduce the clowns, I think your hosting chances will
improve. Depending on its size, a Bubble Tip anemone can host multiple
clowns. Mine host up to 4 at a time. Best of luck, Roy>>
Condylactis gigantea, BTA, Entacmaea Quadricolor Problems – 2/8/07
<Brenda here> I have a 55 gal reef tank. I have about 90 lbs of
sand, 100lbs of live rock, Fuji. I have 384 watts of actinic and 2-250
watts of halide. <That’s a lot of light!> I have in there now a
porcelain crab, 4 hermits, 2 red skunk cleaners, 3 Clarkii clowns, 1
zebra Turbo snail and plenty Nassarius snails about 25, 1 Condylactis
gigantea purple tip. I just added a mushroom coral, a Rhodactis, it is a
leather, and a Rose Bubble Tip anemone. <Yikes! You need to decide
which anemone you want to keep, and remove the other. Also three clowns
in your system will result in problems as they mature. I suggest
removing one clown also.> I put her in 3 days ago all levels ok.
<Please list actual test results next time.> When I first put it in
she moved across the rocks on one side that I have set up for the
anemone away from the Condi anemone. She found a place up side down and
close to a power head so I turned the rock so she would face the
lighting and away from being really close to the power head. <Your
anemone will move where it is the happiest. It was also under stress
when introduced to its new home, moving it will only add more
stress. It also needs time to adjust to its new environment, including
the lighting. It was most likely under much less lighting before it
reached your tank. If those power heads are not covered to protect your
anemone, it will eventually get sucked in and shredded.> She was
doing ok, still showing her trunk and tentacles still small. <It may
be hungry. Feed meaty foods such as silversides, krill, Mysis shrimp or
raw shrimp.> Then she extended more and the second day her tentacles
had got some what bigger still showing her trunk. She had a little to
eat and then the third morning its mouth is open tentacles small trunk
very small. What could be causing this activity? <It definitely
needs to be separated from the Condylactis. Mixing anemones is never a
good idea. It will cause chemical war between the two. Without a
picture of the anemone when you first got it, it’s impossible to tell if
you purchased a healthy one. There was no mention of the age of your
set up. It is recommended that a tank be a minimum of six months old
and stable before adding an anemone. Please search WetWebMedia for more
information on these anemones. It sounds like you may have a couple of
things going on here. Brenda> Coral/Anemone
Compatibility 1/29/07 Hello, <Hi Mike> As everyone says
at the beginning of their letters, "Thanks for all of your help and
knowledge that you pass on to those of us who love this hobby."
<Welcome.> This site really is a great resource and I really
appreciate the time, passion and knowledge you all impart to us lesser
beings. Anyway, I just have a quick question that I cannot find the
answer to anywhere. The night before last, my bubbletip anemone (huge)
decided for some reason that his spot in the tank that he has resided at
for the last four years was no longer suitable. As he made his way
around the tank, either he or his partner in crime (maroon
clownfish) knocked a new frag of plating Monitpora down (I had not
"glued" it in place yet, was waiting to make sure it was happy with its
spot first). As luck would have it, the Montipora spent the night in
the tentacles of the anemone. I have not seen the polyps of the
Montipora since (my sons call the polyps, Cheerios). Is the Montipora
doomed? Is there anything I can do to help or do I now just have an
expensive decoration for my tank? The only other
difference in the tank is that the clownfish has been fanning substrate
out of the way clouding up the tank. I have been gently squirting the
residue off with a turkey baster. I wish now that I didn't have the
anemone because I enjoy growing corals, but it has become such a fixture
in the tank that I don't have the heart to part with it. <This is
exactly why we do not recommend keeping corals with anemones. As for
being doomed, time will tell. I'd say it's not off to a good start for
sure.> Thanks in advance for any wisdom you can impart,
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Mike Tang Wrangling
Anemone - 01/28/2007 Hi, have looked all through information on
anemone stings and I found found nothing about stings on other fish.
<I know we have such queries.... somewhere.... a google search of WWM
on "anemone sting" might provide some useful information.> I have a
yellow tang that was being terrorized by another fish in the tank.
<How big is the tank? What fish was responsible for terrorizing the
tang? Sounds like some potentially dangerous incompatibilities....>
As he dashed about I saw him dash thru the anemone. <Oh
dear.... And what sort of anemone?> I didn't think much about it
and I put a divider in the tank so that I could let him recover from,
the nipping fish and hope to identify the fish nipper.
<Ah, I see. Culprit not yet identified, gotcha. I'm glad you're trying
to get to the root of it!> I have a tomato clown, strawberry basslet
<Either of these can be aggressive.... In a large enough system,
though, neither should be of much threat to the tang. I am curious how
large this tank is, and if it perhaps is not providing them enough
territory.> 4 green chromis <Not the problem, I'm sure. Placid
little guys.> and yellow tang, and the anemone. <I
would like to urge you to look through our anemone FAQs; I would rarely
if ever recommend an anemone in any fish tank, aside from
captive-propagated bubble-tip anemones, and even then, best to keep them
in systems where they will not be harmed, and they will not harm
fish. Anemones just don't make great additions in fish tanks. A reef
tank might elicit a different opinion from me, but on that hand,
anemones often don't mix well with corals, so.... Basically, were it
*me*, and I intended to have an anemone, I'd go with a bubble-tip and I
would base my aquarium and stocking plan around the anemone's needs and
potential threats.> The next day I was looking at his fins as I had
put some vita chem in the tank to stimulate fin growth ad I noticed
bubbled areas in the lower sides. I's sure it must be the anemone
stings. <Oh yes, quite likely.> A few day have
past and one side is much better, while the other is still a red
sore. Will this heal OK <Only time can tell.> or do I need to
help with something? <Removing him to a quarantine tank
where you can observe him well and provide him with pristine water
conditions would be ideal. At this point, I might consider treating
with a good antibiotic (Kanamycin sulfate, Nitrofurazone....) to prevent
secondary infection in these wounds - but DO NOT do this in the main
tank, lest you risk destroying your anemone and in turn the rest of your
livestock when the anemone keels over. Furthermore, once the tang is
healed, don't return it to this system. Either the tang or the
terrorizer needs to go, or you'll be in the same situation again soon,
more than likely.> I have been using VitaChem. Thanks for your
time. -Debbie <All the best to you and your wounded
tang, -Sabrina>
Mystery Tentacle Snipper – 12/29/06
Hello, <<Hello>> I have a green BTA and every now and then
(three months or so) I see one of its tentacles on the bottom of the
tank or elsewhere in the tank. <<Hmm...>> It is normal looking
tissue, good coloring but usually vanishes soon after. I only have one
percula, some Turbos, two very small blue-leg reef crabs, and a boxer
anemone crab. Any help is appreciated. <<Can't say I've ever heard
of these anemones "shedding" tentacles...unless maybe it’s a defensive
reaction. More likely something is snipping these tentacles off...you
may have an unintentional and unwanted visitor vis-à-vis your live
rock. Some nocturnal inspections may reveal the culprit. You could
also try sinking a small glass jar in to the substrate with a bit of
shrimp, clam, etc. and see what turns up. Do also have a close watch of
that boxer crab to make sure this isn’t the cause. Regards,
EricR>><RMF's bet is on the Boxer Anemone Crab...> Mystery
Tentacle Snipper - 12/29/06 Thanks very much. <<Happy to
share. And BTW, Bob is pretty sure your problem is the Boxer Anemone
Crab so it might be wise to concentrate your investigation
there. EricR>>
Did the
anemone kill the fish? 11/14/06 I look to ya'll website for
help on everything, so I was hoping you can help me with a question.
(sorry if its already on the website, I looked but didn't seem to see
it) I had an anemone for the past month or so in my 55 gallon tank. It
had gotten sucked up into my filter, we of course turned off the filter
and it hung on for several more days before it finally died. We cleaned
out the tank yesterday morning (we noticed the anemone dead late the
night before), it was about a 25% water change, and when I tried to pick
up the anemone it was like jelly in my hands and pieces of it floated
all over the tank. <No fun> We picked out everything we could. I
tested the water soon after (about an hour and then about 5 hours) I
changed the water. Ph was 8.2, ammonia, and nitrate were right very very
close to 0, but the nitrite was a little high, it looked a little under
.50. This morning I work up to find all of my fish dead. All the levels
were the same except the nitrite which was off the charts. Was it the
dead anemone that might have done this? Thank you so much for any
response you can give me. I appreciate it so much. <Is likely the
root cause here. BobF>
Re: Did the anemone kill the fish?
11/14/06 I am very very sorry. I looked on our website for
about an hour straight before I wrote. After I wrote I keep searching,
just in case I missed it. Of course I did. I hope you did not waste any
of your time responding to me. I saw that you wrote an unnoticed anemone
will usually wipe out the entire tank. I am guessing this is what
happened. Maybe we noticed the anemone was dead, we just noticed too
late. Again, sorry if I wasted any of your time. You guys are so great
for volunteering all of your services. <Mmm, no worries. Bob Fenner>
Bubble-Tip Anemone Gone Mad! - 10/14/06 Hi there, <<Hello>>
I have a 75 gal tank...filled with bubble-tip anemones...they are
constantly multiplying....all the water conditions are right and the
tank has been set up for over two years. Just recently though I've
noticed that all my watermelon mushrooms have died, could the bubble-tip
anemones be the cause? <<Most assuredly>> Six of them were on
the rock amongst the mushrooms. Now my Ricordea mushrooms are dying
(noticed anemones amongst them also). <<Same issue>> Done water
changes, tested pH, ammonia, and hardness all conditions are fine.
<<Not a water quality problem...you have a compatibility issue>> I
really have many many bubble-tip anemones near 100 about an eighth of an
inch to quarter inch in size. <<That is a LOT of anemones...I hope
you have an eventual outlet for these>> Are the anemones the sudden
cause? <<They are>> Had some of the anemones since I started the
tank (they are multiplying like mad)...the mushrooms a year or
more...what could be happening? Need your help. Thanks, Tree
<<Well Tree, you simply have incompatible organisms trying to share the
same (too small) space. Anemones are always best kept on their own. It
is not even recommended to mix multiple anemones in the same tank, even
of the same species, unless as in your situation they are
reproductions/clones of the host anemone. I think you best resign
yourself to keeping this tank as a species-specific anemone
tank. Regards, EricR>> Anenome potential death... mis-stocked
iatrogenic troubles 10/2/06 I have a fairly large
reef setup in a 150 gallon tank with many different types of corals in
it. Any way to get to the point i <I> have a large anemone
about a 1.5 feet across and have had it for about 2 years now. While i
was feeding my large zebra eel, my only meat eater in the tank :D,
he grabbed the large shrimp i fed him and thrashed around only to put a
tentacle of my Anenome in his mouth as he bit down. Obviously he bit it
off and my Anenome immediately shrank down into its smallest
form.........all this happened about 20 min ago and he still has not
come out.. am scared for my anemones survival he's been with me for a
very long time. Please get back to me soon Thanks alot
<No such word... a lot> John <What
can you do? This anemone, eel and "corals" need separate settings...
Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/index.htm re the species you
list, their Systems, Compatibility. Bob Fenner> Re: PLEASE
HELP ASAP!!! Ammonia spike!!! Cnid., Anemone incomp. ... Not reading...
consequences 10/3/06 Hey guys... it's gone from
bad to worse. I have done a 80 percent water change, then 3 consecutive
30% everyday. Everything in the tank has died except for some Zoo's
which have completely closed up <The "winners"> a cleaner
shrimp, 2 small clowns, and a very small red line angel. <Unfamiliar
with this common name> All corals and inverts have died. All have
been removed. The Chaeto too is dying but I think that's due to low
water flow. I will put a power head in there to keep it flowing
faster. The ammonia is now constant at 1 ppm. It hovered around .25
after the initial large change, then jumped to .5 ppm for 2 days.
<Stress and dying/decomposition> I added bio-Spira 3 days ago and
that doesn't seem to be helping. I went to the LFS and got 2 large cups
of sand from their several year established tank this morning. I
measured the ammonia tonight and now its up to at least 1ppm. There
isn't anything else dying in the tank, other than some Chaeto but its
not dead yet. Why is this ammonia still climbing? What can i do to
stop it or slow it down? Please help!! <... you obviously did
NOT read where you were previously referred to... I would move the
remaining livestock to new settings... BobF> Peppermint
shrimp, anemone and Dottyback compatibility 10/2/06
Hello, back for my weekly question. Hope you are doing well. I am
sure there is a answer to my question somewhere on WWM, but I am having
trouble finding it. On my endless quest for a cure of Aiptasia, I am
thinking of purchasing 4 or 5 peppermint shrimp. My question is, will
the peppermint shrimp go after my bubble tip (huge) or any of the LPS
corals I have (yes, bad mix I know)? <Likely so>
Lastly in your opinion would my blue flavivertex Pseudochromis go after
my peppermint shrimp? <Maybe if/during molting if there
is insufficient cover> If either of these answers are yes, I can put
the peppermint shrimp in my sump with some Aiptasia covered rocks,
right? Thanks, Ryan. <Yes. Bob Fenner>
PLEASE HELP
ASAP!!! Ammonia spike!!! Cnid., Anemone incomp. 9/30/06
Hey crew. I need your advice. I have (maybe had) a 29 gallon reef with
a 15 gallon refugium. I was gone for 2 days and came back to see I had
a bubble coral looking like it had died twice! I removed it, and took a
water sample. Ammonia was .25 ppm. Well, I just so happened to be out
of salt and needed to wait till the morning to go get some. All of a
sudden... white slime (looks kinda like mucus) come off of
everything. Every piece of live rock, every mushroom... everything. I
tried syphoning as much as I could. <Yikes> I ran and got
an old Fluval and threw some carbon in it and ran it for the night.
<Good try> I woke up the next morning to about 10 dead mushrooms, a
dead hammer coral, and a rose bubble tip <... incompatible> that
was not looking good at all. I removed all of them.. <Best... but
not back together... the root cause...> and noticed lots of goo
coming off over every part of the anemone. So, ... as i tried not to
freak out, but rather act quickly..... I went as fast as i could and
got some salt. I did a 10 gallon water change right then, and had to
run into work. I cam back from work and did a water test and the
ammonia was 1.0 ppm. I was at a loss of what to do. I contacted my LFS
and asked what they recommended. I was instructed to do a very very
large water change. <About the best stop-gap measure>
I changed 21 gallons of the 29 or so (less cause of live rock) and
left the water that was in the refugium. I added a bag of live sand and
mixed it with the sand currently in there hoping not to destroy all the
helpful bacteria. I then added 21 gallons of freshly made water and
added a packet of bio-Spira marine. Before the water change...
everything looked like they were saying good bye to life... now they
look like they want to fight to live. I have a strange feeling this
large of a water change will cause the tank to cycle again. I was
hoping to defeat this fear with bio-Spira.. but only time and your
advice will tell. I did a full water test. Here are the results:
Ammonia - .25 (maybe .5, holding the test tube looks like both of
them. More so the .25 but I guess i should error on the side of
caution) Nitrite .05 Nitrate 5.0 Alk 2.9 Ph 8.4
Ca - 300 Salinity 1.026 Please give me some
advice on what to do. Anything and everything I can do. I was planning
on doing another 8 gallons tomorrow to try and lower that ammonia. Are
the benefits of doing the change worth the risk of further causing the
tank to cycle? I am soo lost and need your help.
Josh Henley <Mmm, something "caused" the initial stress/reaction
of the one Euphylliid... very likely something to do with the presence
of the Anemone... cascade of bad-events after this... Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/cnidcompfaqs.htm
and the linked files above, particularly re Anemone Incompatibility with
other Cnidarians. Bob Fenner> Triggers, Anemones, Clowns? Not
tog. 9/6/06 One other question. I did not find it on your
site, but may not be looking hard enough. What is compatibility with
Pink tail trigger 3", Humu (Picasso) 2.5" and 2.5" niger and an anemone?
<... usually zip> If I am having a chemical war I would like to move
my anemone and 2 Percs to my other tank which is a fish only. <The
Clowns likewise would likely be consumed in time here> Right now my
Percs keep laying eggs and would like to see them continue but seem to
have a very happy life in my 72 bow front. I do not want to send them to
the fish tank in the sky by moving them to my fish only tank <Me
neither... perhaps another tank, or two? Bob Fenner> A few
questions from someone new to anemones. Asteroid comp., BTA sel.,
Anemone incomp. 9/5/06 Hello guys! <And gals...>
I love the website and have gained a lot of information from it.
<Good> I've kept a 30 gallon marine tank for about a year
now. About a month ago I purchased an 80 gallon tank to replace it and
I plan on turning the 30 gallon into a refugium and plumbing the two
together for obvious benefits :-)). <Great!> My
current tank currently has: 1 Yellow Tang 1 Blue Damsel 1
Yellow Damsel who can be aggressive) 1 Velvet Damsel 1 Tomato
Clown (I hope will host in the Anemone) 2 Fire Shrimps 1
Chocolate Starfish 1 Sandsifting Starfish And a few blue and red
legged crabs and some turbo snails as well. <All this a thirty?>
Live sand bed and about 30 lbs of live rock. (which were originally
all in my 30 gallon, hence the upgrade to a larger tank) As for the
setup itself I currently have: An emperor 400 w/BioWheel A
Magnum 350 Canister filter A 40w single strip light. Question
#1- I've been thinking about getting a bubble tip anemone. But I've
heard that starfish/anemones are not a good match. Is this true?
<Mmm, this is not a major issue... incompatibility twixt these groups>
I've read that anemones will eat starfish and that starfish will eat
anemones, <A few species are notably predaceous... most ignore each
other... including the ones you list> but haven't found any
definitive information on either of the two species that I have and the
anemone that I'm getting. <Now you have...> Question#2- Is
there anything else I should think about purchasing before I go out and
buy a bubble tip anemone. the waste of 35 bucks doesn't concern me, it's
the pointless killing of an animal by a novice) <Yes... please read
here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/btaselfaqs.htm re BTA Sel.>
Question #3- If I'm running a refugium, is there any need for me to
purchase a protein skimmer, <Yes> my nitrates are barely
measurable (approximately .5 ppm when I change water) and ammonia and
nitrite have been zero for almost as long as the tank has been set
up. Ph and Alkalinity are normal and haven't fluctuated to a noticeable
degree yet. I've decided on the bubble tip because in my
research I've found that they are one of the easiest to keep, and also
are known to host tomato clowns. Also, is there any reason why I
shouldn't mix a sebae and a bubble tip anemone in this tank? <All
sorts... please read on WWM re Anemone incomp...> I've read about
anemones having "chemical warfare" on corals. But from my understanding
of it, anemones and corals are mostly the same accept mobility in
anemones. <Not so> I'm just trying to make sure that
when I buy a bubble tip anemone that I don't end up feeding it to
something in my tank, or something in my tank to it.
Thanks for all your input and keep up the good work. Paul Kotlarz
<Keep reading. Bob Fenner> Tank problems... iatrogenic.
Anemone incomp., not understanding Crypt 9/5/06 I
need Help. I have a 72 bow front. I have had it for 2 years now with no
issues. I have been able to keep corals, fish, anemone <Not
compatible> and inverts. I started noticing around a month ago I was
losing corals. I checked all of my levels more than once. I tested my
Salt with an optical tester and noticed that my level was around 1.029.
<A bit high> I know, way high. I was going on vacation and thought I
should bring the levels down. Well I did to approx 1.021. I did it way
too fast. <No more than a thousandth per day... half this with
invertebrate livestock...> So I lost a lobster and my 2 cleaner
shrimp. I went on vacation for a week and came back to notice more
corals had died off. My 2 clams are fine along with urchin, fish, crabs,
snails, and anemone. Well As we continue. I noticed my temp was down to
71 degrees. I put in a glass thermometer. Well That read 87. I went out
to buy a new one and sure enough the second number was correct. <...
too high> I again tested all of my levels and they seem to be in
great shape. I lowered my temp to 80 over a 2 days. Well now 3 of my
tangs are getting ich. <Already had it...> As well, my anemone
has shrunk and I fear not going to make it. Not sure on this one though.
I placed the temp up to 82 to help with the ich. <... a host of
issues> I am down to no corals I plan on doing a 25% water change in
the morning to help. All levels are fine. Should I wait a few days to
see if the ich clears up? <... won't> I mean it only took 2 days
for the ich to attach to the fish. <As stated, was there at all
times... latent, low-level resident infestation... see WWM re> How
is it that for 2 years everything was growing and surviving with
absolutely NO ISSUES. Please Help ASAP. Sincerely, John J
Bailey <Is more an object lesson in human objectivity/subjectivity.
How many more times (I hope to be around a bunch!) will I/we state the
inherent problem/incompatibility of large actinarian species with other
Classes of cnidarians? Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anemcompfaqs.htm and the linked files
above. And on your situation with crypt:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/reefparasittksfaqs.htm and... Bob
Fenner> Anemone Incompatibility - 08/24/06
Hi, <<Hello>> Thanks for taking my question/problem. <<No
worries...is what we do>> I have a 135 gallon tank with MH 175 (2)
,Berlin system, live rock, live sand bed, etc. A used skimmer (big and
works great). Also a smaller back up skimmer (60 gal). I have had a
rose anemone doing great for about 6-7 weeks. Xenia, candy cane coral,
open brain, yellow gorgonian. I bought a Ritteri yesterday.
<<Uh-oh...trouble>> I was a little leery, but I am very
conscientious and my inhabitants (Tang, maroon clown, sleeper goby,
rusty angel, firefish, blue damsel, and a baby Harlequin Sweetlips) are
all quite happy. <<Mmm, wish you had been a bit more "conscientious"
and researched/learned more about anemone compatibility before placing
two differing species in the same system...let alone placing these
creatures in a system with sessile invertebrates. And I need mention
the Harlequin Sweetlips is another poor choice in my opinion...an
alluring fish (when small) with its attractive markings and swaggering
swimming motion, but most die within days of acquiring, the rest in
weeks to months...and should it happen to live, it would grow to nearly
30">> So, I prayed, crossed my fingers and went for it. <<A very
poor way to approach this hobby my friend. Please do your research
beforehand>> I noticed right away, the rose looked upset but not too
bad, a little smaller. <<Indeed...these animals are quite "aware" of
the other's presence>> This morning my rose is shriveled to nothing
and losing color around the base. <<It's being stung/chemically
attacked by the Ritteri, and likely responding in kind...will prove
deleterious/lethal to both in time>> I moved it to the other side of
the tank. <<Won't help I'm afraid. Anemones have the ability to
release nematocysts (stinging cells) in to the water column to sting
their adversaries from afar (will likely result in collateral damage to
other organisms in a closed-system as well)>> Any suggestions
greatly appreciated. Help!? <<I can only recommend you remove one of
these anemones from this system, the sooner the better...or better
yet...remove both and create "separate" species specific systems
tailored to "their" needs/requirements (will require some
study/research...a good place to start is here, following the indices in
blue as well:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm)>>
Noreen <<Regards, EricR>> Anemone incomp. with
Ephippids! 7/25/06 This is more of a public service
announcement: I refer to your site for all kinds of information. Last
week I looked at your site to see if I could find what was killing my
Condy. Well, the only thing I could find is that
maybe I brought a crab in on a rock. NOPE, the beautiful BAT FISH
attacked my LTA yesterday when I put it in the tank. She took 3
tentacles before I could get her out. Please tell your customers no
batfish with anemone. <<Thank you for sharing your experience. We
do not have ‘customers’. I do tell our readers to avoid keeping batfish
in captivity. Lisa.>> Rose Bubble Tip Anemone...
mixed with a H. crispa... 7/19/06 I have had a rose bubble
tip for about 2 months now, Today I noticed that it doesn't extend out,
it is in a little ball and the clown who is actually too big for it has
pretty much moved out and into another, a sebae anemone, <... not in
the same system?> along with my other clown. The bubble tip will it
krill and clams, but is staying pretty much closed. Is there anything
that I should be doing or looking for?? Salinity 1.024
PH 8.2 nitrate 20
<A bit high> Nitrite 0
Ammonia 0 Lighting 2-65watt power compacts
10K 2-65watt Actinic <Insufficient for this
size/depth tank, these anemone species> 75 gallon Tank Is the
clown buffing it to death?? <Might be... but doubtful. You have a
case of allelopathy... mis-mixed actinarians> Thanks for your time
Bob <Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anemcompfaqs.htm and the linked files
above. Bob Fenner>
Lighting issues??? Really just misplaced
Anemones 7/6/06 Hi there crew!! I'm new to your
pages and find it very helpful. <Change in number... pages/them>
It has answered a lot of questions <It/they> for me but one.
what <Cap.> type of lighting would work best for me?? I have a
40 gal breeder tank 36x18x16 currently with 45 lbs LR and 60 lbs LS
crappy but after mod's (thanks' to you guys) acceptable sea clone
<Product, capitalized> 1 50 (took me almost a week to tune right)
penguin 400 bio wheel <Dittos> filter (no fiber media just
baskets with matrix by SeaChem <> to help keep leaves down)
two MaxiJet 400's for current and a homemade 5 gal refugium (for my
mandarin buddy :o) ). I currently have 4 types of
damsels , two Percs , a zebra goby , a mandarin , a skunk shrimp , a
peppermint shrimp , a emerald crab , some turbo snails , some
hermits , some polyps (couple different types) , some buttons , a BTA
,and a LTA. <These anemones are misplaced here> Everyone has
been doing great!! but the two anemones are new to me and I know I need
better lighting for them. <Actually... they should be moved
elsewhere. Pronto> right now I have three fluorescent 50\50 2 being
18" the other 24". Now my question is what's better PC or T5?? <For
the animals listed, likely the latter> I have got many mixed answers
about this question from LPS <Talking to Scleractinia?>
and figured I need to find better help. I'm interested in maybe adding a
coral or two but want to make sure I get right lighting so if I do
decided to I can. I already know that the anemones need
more light I have had them for about 2 months now and they look good I
watch them eat I have even seen them move around to
different spots in the tank. the LT I have even seen make a home at
the bottom of the tank he's been there for a month now and hasn't moved
but still eats regally . I feed tank 2-3 times a day
morning feeding being frozen Mysis and frozen rotifers second being
marine snow liquid (the fish go nuts for this stuff lol)
the third but not all the time being super soft sinking pellets
with krill which I crush so its like a powder so power heads blow it
around. I'm almost for got to mention the rotifers sometimes get
switched up for frozen invert food (its green in color and stinks lol).
Everyone seems to be very happy in this little environment I have
created but I know they would fair well with better lighting. please
help me make the right choice here so I'm not just blowing money
away. Thanks in advance!! :o) Mark <Mmm, I'd be
moving the anemones, not fooling with the lights. Bob Fenner>
Dead Anemone Residue...Mushrooms Vacating - 07/03/04 Hi
Guys, <Hello Nancy> I had a medium bubble anemone for over a
year who was home to a tomato clown. A few months ago it moved to the
underside of a rock and slowly withered away and left a cottony white
layer where it's base had been. Not knowing if the anemone would grow
back from this I left it in place. I now have a large covering of this
on an adjacent rock and the resident mushrooms are vacating the rock
(which they used to cover). Is this something I want to eradicate or is
it a friendly unknown species who has taken up residence. This is a 75
gal tank with a deep sand bed that has been up and running without
incident for 2+ years, (initially set up in 98 but had a severe algae
problem and I had to tear down, scrub and redo to get rid of it
all.). H2O parameters seem ok, fish are happy, very little algae, VHO
lights + Moonlights. I will attempt to attach a pic but I am digitally
challenged, sorry if it doesn't work. <Pic was sent with no problem.
<<But not saved for posting... RMF>> Nancy, any residue left by a dead
anemone should definitely be removed. This can be quite toxic to the
rest of the inhabitants. Probably why your mushrooms are heading west.>
Thanks, <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Nancy D
Compatibility...Ribbon Eel And Anemone 7/3/06 Hi.
<Hello Josh.> I was wondering, I have a black ribbon eel who is
quite awesome and eats like a champ. He is very healthy and happy. He
was fed originally on saltwater feeders, but over the past few months
have got him to accept frozen food off a long skewer. <Lucky
you. These guys generally don't last too long under aquarium
conditions.> He is currently sharing a tank with a sand sifting
goby, a Lawnmower Blenny and a Lionfish. The Lionfish is on his way to
a new home tomorrow and we were considering making the tank a reef tank
since the ribbon eel seems very pleasant and hasn't bothered anyone even
the very small goby or blenny. I was wondering if he would be
compatible with an anemone. I searched and searched, but couldn't find
anything that said these 2 were compatible. I have found it written
that the ribbon eel was reef safe, but nothing saying that what it was
compatible with. I would like to get a couple large size clown fish and
an anemone and maybe a few pieces of coral. I have had this FOWLR tank
and was looking at giving my best try at converting it to a reef
tank. <Not a good practice to keep anemones with
fish other than clowns. Just a matter of time before one or more fish
will be stung/consumed.> Thanks again for all your help. <You're
welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Josh Henley
Anemone - coral compatibility question - 06/30/06 Evening
Crew (well, is here anyway) <Yet another little lesson in
relativity> I am in set-up / research phase of reentry into reef
keeping and have 4 tanks displayed in a wall with a room behind tanks
hiding all the filtration stuff, a deep sink, and small tanks for QT.
<How nice! You lucky pug! Add a beer-tapper and I'm moving in>
Aqua-Heaven!! Will be wonderful when all populated but am taking things
really slow. Curing/cycling recently complete, no fish yet. Currently
I am running two filtration systems. The 75 gal for reef is on its own
filtration system and the 55gal (FO), 25gal(FO), and 25gal (FOWLR/DSB)
tanks are one filtration system. <What about the quarantine...>
The FO tanks actually have a fair amount of what was once LR of Florida
origin from way back when. During the dry years it was sterilized
(bleach soak) and stored dry knowing I'd eventually have tanks again. I
have a chunk or two of LR in each of those tanks but will be some time
before it will be recolonized obviously. I am currently using the
trickle filters for sumps that were the "state of the art" when I last
was in the hobby and am going to be adding Refugiums (40g long
partitioned for skimmer/ DSB-algae farm/ sump areas) this weekend for
each system and dropping the trickle from the reef setup at least. Reef
has MH lighting, ozone (via skimmer), calcium reactor. Lighting in the
others is mixed - 25gal(fowlr) is CF and the FO tanks are NOF. Both
systems have skimmers, Polyfilter pad, and Carbon bag. Ammonia and
nitrite are 0. Nitrate less than 5 and is dropping each time since
nitrite finally hit zero, pH 8.3, Ca 350-400, Alk 110ppm. Water chem
not too hard to maintain in fallow tanks, Hehe. Plans for the 55
include 2 or 3 medium sized fish. The 25(FO) will have a hand full of
small fish (that would otherwise be food in the 55), and the 25 FOWLR is
to hold an anemone and a clown as only occupants. Population of the RT
is totally undecided, but will be limited to corals, inverts, and one or
two very small fish, and maybe one day a mandarin if pods will grow
well. I have much reading left there and plan to let the live rock/ pod
farm mature at least 6 months before adding corals. (BTW thanks to Roy
for recommending Borneman's Aquarium Corals to supplement my
Fenner/Calfo library. I put the 3 Volume atlas from Australia on the
Christmas wish list) <Ah, good> The question is in regard to a
plumbing change to be made this weekend as I add the refugiums. I am
considering draining the 25FOWLR (anemone) tank into the same filter
system as the reef. I would be using mag 5 to return to the 25gal and a
separate mag 7 to the 75 gal. The second drain from 75 gal overflow will
be used for closed loop manifold to reach 20x+ flow for the reef. Would
the Anemone cause any chemical problems for coral or visa versa via the
sump with them physically separated in this fashion? <Mmm, a
possibility... but perhaps low enough in probability to warrant... place
it (the anemone) about last... "keep it happy"> I was originally
planning on the deep sand under the anemone in the 25 would raise him
closer to CF lights and serve the fish system for denitrification but
the lighted DSB refuge will be even better. The water quality in the
Reef system will be much better than the fish system most likely, which
would benefit the anemone if I make this plumbing change.
What think yee? <Sounds like a plan Ron... Bob Fenner>
Re: Anemone - coral compatibility question - 06/30/06
.....<What about the quarantine...>..... I have a pair or hang on
the tank "wet/dry" + filter bag w/ carbon units hanging on the 55 so
that they are cycled for use in the QT tanks when the time comes to
start buying critters. <Ahh! Thoughtful> I don't remember the
brand name. I bought the ones rated for 30-40gal and QT tanks are
20's. Will add a powerhead in the corner pointed at the flow from the
hang on filter and do freq water changes with water drawn from the
appropriate system during QT period also. I wish I had known about
everything I've found on this site 10 yr's ago. <... me too. Hope we
make it to/through the next decade of "blissful ignorance">
Contaminating the system with a fish "quarantined" by the LFS was the
beginning of a cascade of deaths and total system melt down of a 5 yr
old live rock/ mushroom/ anemone display. <Common loss of life,
hobbyists> I converted to planted biotype fresh water tanks a while
and then stored the tanks to concentrate on the pair of two legged
critters that came into our lives. I feel so fortunate to have a lot
more info available this time around. As to the
Beer-tapper, I tore out a large built in bar to make the space for the
tank wall so I might be going backward to some, hehe. Ron
<Argggghhhh, why can't there be space for all!? Cheers, BobF>
Re: Kole tang discolored spot (can't figure this out) 4/1/06
Thanks for the quick response sorry I was not able to thank you
earlier...working 2 jobs 14 hours a day doesn't leave you much free
time. <Yikes! Hope your commute is short... to allow
sleeping time!> I have returned the flower anemone to the store I
work at and the tiny kole tang looks all better, once again thanks for
the quick response I really appreciate it. <Ah, very welcome. Bob
Fenner, who used to work long, continuous hours, and now plays about as
long>
Red Seastar and Anemone Compatability 3/17/06
Thank you for your awesome website, I am on here almost every day.... I
do have a question for you... When I looked in my aquarium yesterday, I
noticed that my Red Seastar was on my Sebae Anemone. Today the Seastar
is sitting at the top of the tank all curled up. Are these two
compatible with each other? Thanks for your time, Steve K.
<<Without knowing the exact kind of sea star, it is impossible to guess
about the Compatability, however it is most likely that the interaction
between the two was just accidental and not really harmful to either
one. However, there are some predatory sea stars, so I would observe it
carefully. Best Regards. AdamC.>> Few questions... Condy
mixed, sized system for anemones 01-01-06 Bob, <Happy New
Year. Travis (Fellow Iowa native) here with you today.> I recently
discovered your website and really enjoy reading it. <Good to hear.>
However, your advice to other aquarium owners causes me to question
whether or not my LFS is giving be wrong information to just sell a
specimen. <Ah, the struggle we all find ourselves dealing with.>
First off, I have a Condy (yeah I know, basic, but I've never had an
Anenome and I wanted to get the hang of caring for one) and my LFS
owner told me that any coral or fish would be fine with it. <To be
honest there is no such thing as a "basic" anemone, but yes Condys can
be a bit less demanding.> But according to you, Atlantic anemone's
should never be mixed with pacific coral's and fish. <It is always
best to keep animals together with those they share ocean space with in
the wild.> I have a 12g nano-cube and it runs great....I have one
clown, 1 coral banded shrimp, live rock and sand, 1 Condy, cotton
candy coral branch, and a colony of striped mushrooms. I really would
like to know if this Condy is a risk to my tank and should be removed.
<To be honest a 12 gallon tank is no place for any anemone. Anemones are
very demanding, as far as water parameters go, and they tend to wander.
Condy's are not natural hosts and have been known to damage/kill fish
and corals. I would return your Condy.> Thanks for your time.
<Glad to help, Travis> Sincerely, Drew Condy and LTA...
Real troubles with mixing Anemones I have a few different
anemone's. <In the same system? Most often a disaster...> I have
a rock flower, a Condy and a brand new white/bluish/greenish LTA. My
Condy did great for several weeks, now he is limp. <Uh,
yeah> He has been eating brine and small silver fish. (My emerald
crab was eating his tentacles for a short period of time). Should I
feed him something else? <Possibly... but you have a larger, more
demanding issue... allelopathy... competition twixt the actinarians...>
I had 1 light 96 watt with the blue light and the led, I bought another
96 watt light for the anemone he positioned himself and did very well
until the crab starting feeding on his tentacles. Is this enough light,
and what should my Condy eat? <Please see WWM re Anemone
Compatibility, Condylactis Feeding, Systems... all is posted there>
MY LTA- new, and huge. He is spinning around the floor of my tank, he
will not seat, and now today he has (after 4 days) shriveled up and
keeps expelling waste, but does not eat much, when I give the silver
fish, he takes it, but then usually releases it. Is he eating the
brine?. <Unlikely> What is the best to feed him, will he seat
himself as large as he is (my tank is 65 gal and has about 120lb of
rock). The fish store I go to suggested setting his foot in a baby food
jar?! I am semi new to this, but have never seen an anemone act like
this. <Read... and quick. You need to separate these
animals pronto. Bob Fenner>
Inappropriate Anemone Mix,
Actually Just Mix In General - 12/15/2005 Hi guys/gals,
<Ground control to...I mean Hi Tom.> I have a 2.5 x 2 x 1.5 foot
marine tank, I know this is quite small in comparison with other
hobbyists tanks, but so far doing well, (been running for about 7
months.) <Good.> I have a large piece of Xenia, Sun Coral (which
I'm feeding Liquid Life marine plankton). I have had him for about a
month and never seen him out to feed? <Please do search our FAQ's on
this. There's much you'll need to do/attempt to begin this process. Also
does not help to have the unnatural mix (Soft and Stony).> 2 Black
Clowns a Mandarin, Boxing Crab, Large Blue Leg Hermit (who is a pain in
the ass) and a brittle star. All parameters are fine. I have
recently purchased a Bubble Tip, a bit disappointed that the Clowns
still ignore him after a week, he did move to a different place after a
day but has not moved since, which I take as a good sign. <Maybe.
This REALLY doesn't help your unnatural mix. Hard enough to keep in
small tanks, throw in the other corals and you're asking for trouble.>
He comes out big in the day, but his mouth opens up large, and hangs out
every other day? <OK, take this as a bad sign. The mouth "gaping" is
stress related.> Can you enlighten me on this, and is there anyway
to get the clowns to notice him, the lights I'm running are twin ballast
Interpet T5's, daylight and triplus, (is this enough?) Also can't get
bubble tip to eat, is he using light? <OK, you've broken a few
"rules" here and it seems you are starting to see why they exist. Aside
from compatibility, you've not researched what these animals need, how
they need it and what you should/shouldn't expect. The Clowns will
probably ignore the anemone (not even the natural wild relationship),
but at this point, hope they don't try. This will make things worse on
the anemone. I advise you to return the anemone and focus your effort on
the Dendrophylliid. The Mandarin would also be better off else where,
likely a very short life in your tank.> Many thanks, Tom.
<You should find all the clarification you need in the FAQ's. Whoever is
selling you these should not be trusted on their advice. Sorry I don't
have better news. Best of luck. - Josh>
Does This Match my
Carpet? Allelopathy in Action (Not Inaction) 11/12/2005
Hi My name is Gal Judah and I am writing to you about a number of
issues/pattern that I have noticed in my aquarium. I have a 150 gallon
reef aquarium with well developed life rock, sufficient lighting and a
well sustained tank environment. My first issue is that I have 3
Ocellaris Clownfish which I have had for about 4-5 months now, all were
introduced at one time and get along well, my issue with them is that I
have 2 Carpet anemones and 1 rosebud anemone (the carpet anemones were
present before clowns were introduced) and for some reason the clowns
choose not to go near them. <Happens> Secondly and more
importantly I have noticed an alarming pattern to grow of corals in my
tank and then a sudden crash. it seems that as soon as I get corals to
grow and polyps to spread all of a sudden they just decide to die.
<<Don't think they make this decision lightly, it may be for a very good
cause. MH>> I do frequent water test and almost always find
that my water conditions stay constant. I was wondering if you knew why
this occurs. <Mmm, you might find you have more success with more
frequent, larger water changes, using activated carbon in your filter
flow path... and making sure there is space between the corals and
anemones> Lastly I have had recently growing polyp in my tank. I
again see the same pattern with the grow of polyp in my aquarium. They
grow and spread rapidly and then in a matter of days deteriorate. So my
question is what can I do to increase grow of polyps in my tank and what
can I do to sustain that grow? <Mmm, a bunch... and all is posted on
WWM...> Your help would be greatly appreciated and thank you for your
time Gal Judah <Please start reading here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/index.htm.
Especially the area on Anemone, Carpet Anemone Compatibility. Cheers,
Bob Fenner> Allelopathic Effects of Different Anemone Species -
10/24/05 Hi Guys, One of my friends has recently had a major
crash in his aquarium. I believe toxins released into the water by soft
corals (specifically Sarcophyton and Sinularia sp.) and his anemones
(keeps both Heteractis crispa and Entacmaea quadricolor) may have played
a role in this crash. <I don't know of any corals that can wipe out
fish. A dead anemone can definitely cause this.> His tank is
4'x2'x30" and contains around four sizable soft corals (largest is the
Sinularia sp. which is around 15cm. The anemones are both around 25cm
diameter. Can be up to 30cm when fully extended. As well as a number of
other invertebrates and a number of fish. The tank has been set up for
around two years. Thus far with no significant problems. Do you think
that it is possible that the allelopathic effects of the anemones and
soft corals could have contributed to the crash? Details about the
crash follow: 1. All crustaceans were fine with no apparent negative
effects (including Coral Banded Shrimp and several hermit and normal
crabs) 2. The sea urchin seemed to be totally unaffected 3. All
fish died in the tank within a period of three hours. Were fine at
lights on (around 9am) and everything was dead by lunchtime (around
midday) 4. Some of the Acropora sp. seem to be a little less healthy,
but there have been no deaths thus far in hard or soft corals or clams
(the tank also has two Tridacna squamosa) Another possibility that I
thought may be a contributing factor is the black sea cucumbers he has
releasing a toxin into the water? However the cucumbers seem to be in
perfect health. He has a total of three in his tank. (I think this is an
excessive number due to their toxic nature, but that is just my opinion)
Any suggestions you can provide would be greatly appreciated. I would
also like some references regarding the allelopathic nature of some
invertebrates, I have seen a number of mentions of allelopathy in marine
creatures on your website, but no proper references. I have suggested my
theory to my friend, but unfortunately he seems to think I am insane,
and I would like some evidence to back me up if possible. :)
<Hayley, I'm guessing the cucumbers are responsible for the crash. A
dead anemone will definitely cause this also. Here is a link for you to
read that also lists several references at the bottom.
Marine allelopathy. James (Salty Dog)> Thanks heaps for your
help!! Hayley Sydney Australia <You're welcome>
Anemone Systems, Mixing Angels - 10/24/05 I currently have a 75
gallon f/o with live rock. I am considering upgrading the lighting
system to two 150 watt halides and putting a bubble or Ritteri anemone
or both anemones in the tank. <Well you would only be able to choose
one as two anemones of different species in the same system will fight
both physically and chemically. In this choice I would choose the Bubble
(E. quadricolor) as the Ritteri has a dismal survival record.> The
current fish are a yellow tang, a hippo tang, <Two tangs will be too
much for this tank long term.> a xanthurus angel, a flame angel, and
a Fourline wrasse. I also have a Potter's angel in quarantine tank for
about one month and doing well , I would like to put him in this tank
when I change it over , the flame will probably be taken out to avoid
any conflict with the Potter's. The flame is two years old and very
established. <Centropyge potteri is another fish that has a very
poor survival record be sure it is healthy and eating well before
addition to the display, and yes you will have to remove the flame.>
Do you see any problems with the change over? <Not with your current
stock, but be sure to research anemones before purchase, they are quite
sensitive animals.> I would like to put host clownfish in this tank
<Keep in mind there is no guarantee that the clown will take to the
anemone, and also keep in mind clowns have been known to host in things
other than anemones such as Sinularia and Sarcophyton Leathers.>
Thanks Ron. <You are welcome Adam J.> Sebae anemone
healthy but losing pieces 9/15/05 Hey Guys, I have a healthy
Sebae anemone in my tank. I have had 4 damsels, crabs, pep. shrimp,
emerald crab, polyp rock, for a while. I recently put in a fantastic
specimen of a gold stripe maroon clown. I am now seeing small pieces of
the anemone in the tank. (they glow nice under the actinic). What's
going on? The anemone and clown took to each other almost immediately.
Thanks much, Dan <I have seen more than once where clowns (Especially
maroons) will nip off tentacle tips from their host. I have no
explanation why they might do this, but it doesn't seem to be all that
harmful to the anemone. Other animals may suffer if the bits land on
them. If it seems that the anemone is suffering significantly from
this, you may have to remove it or the fish. Best Regards. AdamC.>
Lighting, issues with mixing anemones... 7/16/05 Hi there guys
<And gals...> I have a question regarding a Marine Aquarium lighting
setup. I have a 80 Gal 26" tall marine setup which is
about 4 months old now. All the water parameters are within
suggested regions and everything seems to be doing well. I have two
Magnificent Anemones, one carpet, <Dangerous...> a tree coral
and one leather coral on about 50 Kg of live rock. As for the lighting,
I have installed 2 x 250W MH 10,000K (Sylvania), 2 x 36 W Actinic
(fluorescent) and one 36 W 10 000K Ocean sun (fluorescent). Will
this lighting be adequate, if not what colour temperature and
wattage lighting should I add? <Adequate for? To keep the animals
alive you list? Should be fine> Looking forward to your response
Thank you very much Eddie <Please do read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anemcompfaqs.htm re anemone
compatibility, and the linked files above re lighting, systems... Bob
Fenner>
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