CCS - interesting survivor 8/6/06
I don't really have
major questions at this time, as most of what I was looking for I found
in the section on the chocolate chip starfish. I would like to say that
my husband and I adopted a 55gal salt tank through a very popular free
mailing list. My husband keeps a 75gal, 30gal and 10gal fresh tanks, and
had expressed an interest in salt.
When we got the tank, it had no
skimmer, no sump, and had only the same type of setup as a fresh tank.
The bottom is crushed coral/sand mix with regular colored rock for fresh
tanks mixed in (for color). It was more brackish, with the salinity
about 1.016. The guy said he had just "let it go" for about 6 months
before giving it away.
<... "If a man would be unkind to his
parrot... then why not his country...?"... "Know thyself, then love...">
The animals it came with were two (5" & 7") bright orange toadfish, some
mostly dead live rock, a hermit crab, and a chocolate chip starfish.
We have made the following adjustments- salinity first. Then my husband
built his own sump out of a spare tank we had and Plexiglas with
aquarium sealer. We finally have all the nitrites, nitrates, ph,
temperature, light (CoralLife 50/50) and salt where we wanted it- and
added a blue damsel and two very small live rocks (1/2lb total) after
about 2 months, we are at almost 3 months now.
The healthy toadfish
are no surprise, as I read up on them and they are super resilient.
<Yes. This is so>
We could probably let this tank turn to muck and
they'd be fine, lol. What I'm most surprised about is that the CCS seems
active and healthy. It eats the dried shrimp we give it as well as bits
of fish we feed the toadfish. Its color is good, and it has no patches
or slime. This is through the move, super high nitrates when we got the
tank, low salt, and dubious temperature maintenance.
<Ah, yes...
"cleanliness is not sterility">
I am even wondering if we can add
some shrimp
<The toadfish will consume in short order>
or
urchins
<I would not... see WWM re>
and a larger grouper or a
larger angel fish
<No... a 55 gallon is too small for>
(so the
toadfish can't eat them, the damsel hides in the rock).
<Smart>
One of the local aquarium stores said they would take
one of the
toadfish off our hands and give us store credit, so we are
thinking
to do that in order to make room.
<This latter is best... I'd trade
both in, be studying re your options, searching WWM, elsewhere, making a
"dream list"... Thank you for relating your experience. Bob Fenner>
Tank Fluctuations And Chocolate Chip Stars - 5/2/2006
Good Day Ladies & Gentlemen!
<Hello to you>
As always; your site
is an invaluable resource and it has helped me in so many ways I can't
count them all.
<Thanks for the kind words from all of us>
It's
because of your site that I decided NOT to give up my aquarium when I
first started this hobby. If it hadn't been for you guys and gals, I
would have cut my losses at the $1500.00 mark and gotten a dog. Today I
have a beautiful tank; healthy fish and am thoroughly enjoying my new
endeavour and I owe it all to your advice. <More so your hard work and
dedication>
I'll be making a donation to the site this
upcoming pay period just to say thanks for all the help.<Anytime and
thank you>
In the meantime, I have a tiny little question about my
tank that I cannot seem to locate an answer to (if it's there on the
site somewhere; I've obviously missed it, please accept my apologies;
slap my wrist and point me to the page and I'll read every word and take
a test).<No worries, lets see if I can help, but a pop quiz may be
imminent>
I have a 45-gallon FOWLR tank with two
damsels; three turbo snails; two cleaner shrimp, an astrea snail and one
chocolate chip starfish (part of the subject of this mail).<Sounds nice>
We read up all about them (chocolate chip starfish)
on your site
before getting him and decided that he'd make a great addition to our
tank despite the delicateness of his care. We take great care of our
tank: the Flu-Val is cleaned twice per week; the water is changed twice
per week (three gallons each change) and the substrate is vacuumed at
the same
time as the water changes to remove detritus and any
leftover food that might contribute to nitrate levels. The tank is
replete with UV Sterilizer, skimmer, two power heads and giant piece of
dead coral for hiding places.
<Sounds like you have maintenance
down>
All that said, we take great care of the tank and keep a VERY
close eye on the water parameters. Because of all this, we felt we'd
get on great with the starfish and so far (he's about a week and a half
into the tank) he's doing extremely well: He's all over the aquarium,
eats like a small horse and has great colouring. He even seems to be
getting on well with the
shrimp.
<Good to hear, just keep a
close eye on him, they are delicate as you stated earlier>
Now to
the question. My partner and I live in San Francisco where we don't
have (nor do we need) air conditioning. The temperature never gets bad
enough to warrant A/C use but the room temperature obviously fluctuates
with the weather because of the lack of A/C. As I've said, I keep a
very close eye on all the tank water parameters and I've noticed that
temperature seems to fluctuate a few degrees during the day (especially
with the absolutely BEAUTIFUL summer weather we've been having - you
know the kind of days that make you happy to be alive). <Nope, I'm in
Chicago, goes from freezing to 95 within a week>
For example,
yesterday it started out at 77.1 degrees and finished up the day at 81.7
degrees (That happened over a roughly eleven hour period) and obviously
what goes up must come down so by midnight the temperature had returned
78.8 degrees. This morning it was back 77.2. The variances don't seem
like much to me and it's still within normal parameters (at least that I
can find) but I'm concerned Chip. The temperature tends to only
fluctuate a few degrees and it's always in the upper direction.
<A 3
degree swing is starting to push it a bit>
I have a 250W heater that
keeps the tank nice and balmy at 77 degrees all through the night. But
during the day, the temp in the tank adjusts up to room temperature
which usually goes above 80 degrees. I know from the FAQs and articles
that Chocolate Chip Starfish are extremely sensitive to most parameters
and I'm worried that this might be too much for
him but can't find
anything that confirms or denies what a bad shift in temperature
is. Again, right now he's fine with his moving and his eating and just
general good nature. But these changes do worry me. I can control all
the other parameters and they are as solid rocks (knock on wood) but I
can't control the weather (yet :).
So I guess my main
question is what is an 'extreme' temperature shift for a starfish? Are
the temp fluctuations going to be detrimental to him and if so do you
have any suggestions for stabilizing the temp? I've thought about
putting a fan pointed at the outside of the tank to dissipate some of
the
heat from the glass, but that's obviously very difficult to
control and I'm afraid it'll drop too low for him not to mention putting
a great load on the heater.
Any ideas would be extremely
helpful.
<3 degrees is about as much as you want for fish, and
probably pushing it for the more sensitive stars, however the answer is
quite simple, just run the tank warmer. 80-81 degrees is quite normal
for reefs in nature and your star and fish will have no trouble handling
it. I run my tank around 82 and everyone seems happy. If you are
worried about overstressing the heater I suggest running 2, which also
gives you redundancy if one should go out for ultimately a minimal
expense. Just remember to try to make the temperature increase as
gradual as possible>
Many Warm Regards,
Dennis
<And to you>
<Chris>
CCS During Tank Cycle!? - 02/20/2006
My boss
just got a new aquarium about a week ago, and so far it seems everything
has been running fine, but recently I noticed our Chocolate Chip
Starfish hasn't been as active as usual and he's taken to curling up his
arms and just staying like that for hours.
<This tank hasn't even
been cycled yet! This starfish is doomed.>
I removed him from the
tank and in the net he straightens out his arms but when we set him back
in the aquarium he curls up immediately. For a moment the tank was too
hot so we lowered the temp, but nothing has changed. All of our other
fish (eel, puffer, wrasse,) have been just fine.
<This will change.>
Please help. Thank you!
<Wish I could! Please review WWM on tank
cycling. These fish should be removed if they are to live. - Josh>
Chocolate Chip Star Fish 9/26/05
I have three questions 1st
question is:
Can small hermit crabs be a threat to Chocolate Chip
Star Fish
or can the hermit crabs be kept with them? <Yes>
Second: What is the minimum size tank suggested for keeping one
Chocolate Chip Star Fish in? <I'd recommend a minimum of 10 gallons,
reason being that starfish are very sensitive to changes in water
parameters which can occur easily in smaller tanks.>
and my 3rd
question is : Can Brittle Stars be kept with the
Chocolate Chips
ones? <Yes>
If you can get back with me on these questions I
appreciate it
a lot...just having a lil difficulty and need few
answers on what
I asked Email back A.S.A.P and thanks a million !!!
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Chocolate Chip Starfish
II
Hi Bob.
<Not Bob now or previously. Bob is off in Australia
and the rest of the WWM crew is picking up the pace.>
Thank you for
your quick response. Why do you say chocolate chip starfish should not
be acclimated to brackish water?
<I would not recommend any animal be
kept in unnatural conditions. Even though aquariums themselves are
unnatural, but...>
And, are their any starfish that I can acclimate
to brackish water?
<Not really. Do you have some reason for wanting
to do this? -Steven Pro>
Thanks, Ashley
Chocolate Chip
Starfish III
Steven-
Sorry about calling you Bob.
<No
problem, I just wanted you to be clear who was giving you their
opinion.>
I know its not the ideal situation but, can the chocolate
chip star live in brackish water?
<I doubt it. Most inverts do not
tolerate temporary lower salinity treatments for parasites, so I do not
believe it would handle long term conditions.>
Unfortunately we
already have one, the people at the store said they could be acclimated.
<I would return it and ask them if and when they ever performed this
feat. I always question the opinion of someone looking to profit from
their advise.>
It is a small one, less than two inches across. We
have no coral in our brackish tank. If it does live what can we feed it.
<Variety of prepared frozen foods.>
Thanks for your time. Ashley
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
Shooting For A Star 8/1/03
Dear crew,<Phil here to help tonight!>
I am wanting to get another
chocolate chip starfish.<A favorite of mine...> but I have had trouble
with the past 3 that I have had. what all should I know about taking
care of a starfish and its water?
<I would start reading here. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/seastars.htm
How big is your tank? How's the water quality? What's in the
tank? What did you feed your last seastar? Just a few of the questions
I need answered before I can give you a better answer. Hope this helps
and please get back with me so I can better understand your
system. Phil>
Chocolate Chip Starfish
I'm thinking
about the addition of a Chocolate Chip Starfish to my aquarium.
I
have read many posts regarding these starfish but I still have a few
questions. Is a 30 gallon tank with 2 clowns large enough? Is
filtration
consisting of a power filter and protein skimmer
sufficient? What and how
often should they be fed for best health
and longevity?
Thanks for any help and guidance,
Blake
< The
tank is large enough when they are small but he will eventually outgrow
it. The filtration should be good enough. Every other day try slipping
a piece of krill or other food in his path and he should be able to find
it. Also consider adding some live rock, I consider it one of the most
important if the not most important component of a successful
aquarium. It acts a filter and a natural food source. Cody>
Adopting a Chocolate Chip Star (2/23/04)
I need some help
please. I will be ‘adopting’ my
brother’s chocolate chip starfish
when he moves. I
only want a small tank (10 gallons) – since it is
basically just for the starfish. I would like to know
what else – if
anything – I could put in the same
tank. I know he will eat other
starfish (already has)
and I know starfish can eat anemones and
corals. Is
there anything you can suggest? Thank you.
<Unless
you can do a bigger tank, you'd best not adopt this star. Better to give
it to a marine aquarium store for sale to someone with a proper setup.
Starfish require superb water conditions that are difficult to maintain
in such a tiny tank, especially if you are a novice. They're also better
off with a lot of live rock and live sand to scavenge. I have not heard
of chocolate chips eating other stars of equal size, but they will
consume just about anything they can get their stomachs around before it
can escape. If you can get a bigger (say 30-40G range tank, you could
set something up with the star and a shrimp and maybe a fish. You need
to read a lot about the equipment and $$$ required for any marine setup.
BTW, how do you plan to feed this starfish? Hope this is of some help.
Steve Allen.>
Water Quality and chocolate chip star
>I
am about 6 weeks into my first SW endeavor. I purchased a water test
kit...PH, Ammonia, Nitrate, Nitrite...and I already have a
hydrometer...Are there any other things I need to test for on a regular
basis?
>>This would depend in part on what you plan to keep. Seeing
as how you've already got the chocolate chip stars in there, I see you
aren't planning on keeping any corals (soft or hard), though you can
keep some other invertebrates with these stars such as shrimps and the
like. The only other kit you *might* need (this isn't imperative) is
phosphate, and possibly oxygen. But really, for a beginner, this would
be overkill.
>Also...I have 2 small chocolate chip stars that I am
attempting to feed clam...these guys are pretty slow, and have a tough
time chasing down the food...should I be hand feeding them?
>>LOL!! You mean they can't chase down a clam? I wouldn't worry too
much about it, my friend. They'll find the food bits, and if you think
they really need to be fed, then wait till they're in a convenient place
and simply place food very nearby. If it's being stolen then just place
a cup or the like over them until they've covered it, that should be
more than sufficient. Best of luck, Steve! Marina
Nestle is
new to the tank
Bob:
What is the ideal water temp. for CCS?
<Mid to upper seventies F. Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/chocchipfaqs.htm
Bob Fenner>