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FAQs about Acroporid Coral Disease/Health, Parasites, Pests 1
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Purple Spots on Acropora yongei 3/10/06
Hello. One of my corals (I think it is A. yongei) has been
developing a
number of small, purple spots. It does not look like the tissue is
sloughing
off in these areas, but I can't see any polyp extension either. This
coral has been
in my tank and doing okay for over 2 years. I did change from 175W to
250W
MH, but that was over 6 months ago and this symptom just started to show
up
about a month ago and is progressing slowly. There does not seem to be a
pattern,
high or low on the coral. All other SPS and LPS species in the tank,
including other Acropora, look normal and are doing fine. Water
parameters
are good. Please see attached. Thanks.
<A very nice pic of a very nice specimen. I do believe this is "just"
coloration returning to the colony... Beautiful. Bob Fenner> |
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Please Help! -- Mg damage to corals? Sclera. health - 2/28/2006
Hi Crew,
<Greg>
I hope I am worrying needlessly, but I am concerned I might have an unknown
coral predator or a water parameter problem with my 180g reef. My main concern
is one Acropora with approximately a pea-sized exposed skeleton near the base of
one branch and ½” of skeleton exposed on one tip. A brown mucous-thread-like
substance covered the Acropora, with dead tissue trapped in the bottom of this
mucous net. I siphoned-off the mucous and dead tissue, cut off the dead tip of
one branch, then dispensed a tank water + Lugol’s solution over the remaining
bare skeletal areas. I just fear that this area of necrosis might be
spreading. This Acropora is placed approximately 8 inches from a 7” Crocea clam
(which occasionally produces a similar-looking mucous-like “net” near the byssal
opening). So I am unsure if the Acropora coating was from the Crocea or if it
was produced by the coral.
<Mmmm>
Two days prior to this happening I did move a rock that was attached to this
Acropora and one tip was broken off the Acropora. This has never been an issue
in the past as new flesh would cover the exposed skeleton within a week and new
branches would form. Possibly this initial stress is what led to the current
tissue necrosis. Current water parameters: Temp=77°F, Salinity=1.024, pH=8.1,
alk=3.2 meq/L, Ammonia=0, Nitrite=0, Nitrate~1ppm, Ca=440ppm, PO4={below meas.
Limits}, Silicate=0). I did also increase temperature on my heaters from 76°F
to 77°F a few days ago. I performed a 32g water change at the same time.
A little history…
About two weeks ago, I noticed that all of my Montiporas were becoming much
lighter in color. I was not overly concerned because they have lightened and
darkened in color several times over their 2 years in my tank and they continue
to grow well. Although water parameters have always remained within acceptable
ranges previously,
my salinity dropped from 1.025 to 1.022
<This is a huge difference>
over the course of a day just before the Montiporas changed color a few weeks
ago. A snail had stuck my makeup water float switch in the “on” position for a
day, flooding my 100g refugium and diluting the water with RO/Kalk mixture.
<No fun>
My pH measured 8.2 so I was only concerned about the sudden change in salinity
(makeup water flows at only 10gpd). I removed 10 gallons of tank water and
slowly added 10 gallons of very high salinity water until tank salinity measured
1.023. The following day, I repeated this procedure until the salinity reached
1.024. All fish, corals, clams, other inverts appeared to be unstressed so I
assumed that worst case, this might have induced a temporary color change in the
Montiporas.
<Takes a while to show... weeks, months>
Since my alkalinity and pH have always remained near the low end of acceptable
(pH=8.0-8.1, alk=2.5-3 meq/L) despite using a Kalkwasser reactor for top-off and
the addition of Na2CO3 and NaCO3, I bought a Mg test kit to determine if a low
Mg level was partially responsible for low alkalinity (Ca=440 ppm). Mg measured
1,140 ppm
<Close enough...>
so I mixed 10 teaspoons of Seachem Reef Mg in 1 pint of RO water and dripped
this into the pump intake in my refugium. An hour later I repeated
this. According to Seachem’s label, I would have needed to repeat this process
a few more times to reach the desired 1,300 ppm but I noticed another Acropora
(near the return line) with mucous-like threads waving from its polyps. I was
concerned that I might have changed the Mg level too quickly so I made no
further changes to the tank for the next two days.
<Good>
I did continue to noticed these “mucous threads” waving from the Acropora polyps
at times. This is a different Acropora than the one that is currently
displaying tissue necrosis. Could dosing Mg in this way cause tissue necrosis
in Acropora?
<Possibly a factor, not likely "the">
This particular coral is not in direct flow of the pump return line.
One Montipora has completely bleached (although polyps are visibly extended) but
I did move this coral to a lower light area of the tank when it initially began
to bleach. All other corals (4 Acropora, 1 birdsnest, 1 open brain, 1 pineapple
coral, hammer coral, zoos, star polyps, mushrooms, Alveopora) appear to be doing
well. Even the Acropora that had previously produced the mucous-like threads
now appears normal. All inverts appear unstressed as well.
What should I do about the Acropora with the tissue necrosis – is there a way to
reverse this spread?
<You likely have>
If the necrotic area continues to grow, I assume I should frag the coral to save
the remainder – correct?
<An approach. I would move this colony to another system, or even shallow,
brightly lit sump first myself>
Do you think this in contagious (e.g. should I be doing anything to protect the
other corals in my tank)? Unfortunately I do not have a picture to send yet,
but I can follow-up when I return home tonight if needed.
Thank you in advance for your help!!!
--Greg
<I doubt you have a pathogen at play here. Very likely the bit of trouble you've
observed is/was due to the change n spg... I would not over-react here. Bob
Fenner>
Re: Please Help! -- Mg damage to corals? - 3/1/2006
Bob,
<Greg>
Thank you so much for your input (or at least putting my mind at ease) -- and
for taking the time to read my email. I will continue to watch this
Acropora, but no additional skeletal areas appear to be exposed tonight.
<Good>
I refer all of my fellow reefers to the WWM search for answers to their
questions. You and the WWM crew offer an invaluable service to aquarists!
--Greg
<We're very glad to share. Bob Fenner>
Bleaching Montipora - 02/23/06
Hi and thank you for answering my ?.
<<I'm happy to be a part of it all.>>
I have had a frag of Red Montipora capricornis for about 2 weeks and I have
noticed that it is losing its color and now is white/pinkish in color.
<<Troubling indeed>>
My Salinity, water temp, no nitrates, no ammonia, are fine. My lighting is
2x250 MH with 10k Ushios and are about 12 inches from where the Monti cap is
placed.
<<Hmm...if the frag didn't come from the same type of light environment it may
be experiencing "light shock".>>
Their is very little flow where the cap is placed also.
<<This too is a problem...high flow please...>>
Could it possibly be that I have to much light over the Monti cap and should I
place it under an overhang?
<<These corals are often kept quite successfully in "high light" environments,
but if it wasn't acclimated to the light, that may well have been the
problem...but after two weeks I think you're better off leaving it where it
is. It will have begun to adjust by now (if it's going to recover), and moving
it again means more stress.>>
Your assistance would be greatly appreciated. I could possibly send you a pic
if that would help out.
<<I think the best you can do at this point is increase water flow in the
vicinity of the coral/the tank as a whole. Regards, EricR>>
Red Acro Mites 2/10/06
Hey Crew,
2 of my Acro's have tiny red bugs on them. the polyps on the coral are in
because they are probably stressed out. i have a fridmani,
but he isn't interested. he prefers spaghetti and meatballs!! i am
concerned. i did a google on wet web media and didn't find any real solutions. please advise...
best regards,
Jenna
<Read:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/acrodisfaqs.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner
Red Acro Mites II - 02/11/06
Hey Bob, thanks for your help......
<<EricR here this morning...>>
Well, I looked through the link you sent, and found that Interceptor will kill
bugs, but all my crabs as well!!
<<Indeed, as well as other beneficial life! (amphipods, mysids, etc....maybe
even beneficial protozoa...)>>
No good right?
<<Not in my opinion, no.>>
I love my critters...
<<And your tank loves them too.>>
I also did a Google search, but no info really.
<<Agreed>>
I assume it is not really known what to do right?
<<As I am aware, there aren't any "scientific" studies on these critters and
their impact in aquariums/captive systems.>>
All my Acro's are infected now, and they are stressed out. Color is fading, and
polyps are closed. They will probably die, if I don't fix this...
<<Jenna...I have red bugs (Tegastes) in my reef tank for more than a year now,
more likely more than two. I have not lost any corals due to them, and
color/growth/vigor has not been affected by them...in my opinion. I have not
and will not "nuke" my tank to get rid of them and quite honestly, don't give
them a second thought (an attitude that admittedly, has drawn scorn and caused
me to be shunned by the "fraggers" in my local reef club...but I
digress...). My point is; and I'm not saying this is the case in your
situation, I think many aquarists are quick to blame their own mistakes in
choosing proper tank-mates or inadequacies in water
quality/lighting/flow/feeding on the Tegastes. Just my humble opinion...no
"proof" either way at the moment. But for your own peace of mind, if the corals
in question can be removed from the display tank you do have a couple options
you can try. You could place the affected corals in a bucket of tank water with
a powerhead and heater and treat per instructions with the
Interceptor...or...you could simply give the corals a 15 second bath in
temperature and pH adjusted RO water...though the second option is harder on the
coral. And do be aware, neither of these options guarantees the corals won't
become "reinfected" once reintroduced to the display. I don't know that all
this helps you much but as you've discovered for yourself, aside from anecdotal
evidence or knee-jerk reaction, there's not much to go with. Regards, EricR>>
M. digitata? And Care. 2/2/06
Howdy everyone,
<Hello.>
as previously mentioned this is a great website!
<Thank you.>
I've been reading a lot since my discovery of it and have learned a lot.
<Outstanding.>
Attached is a pic of a frag coral that I obtained from my LFS.
<Looks to be a Montipora, possibly M. Digita. Also looks to be going through or
went through some RTN.>
They were not sure of the type of coral so if you could point me to the family
or genus that would be cool.
<See above.>
Also it has a growth on it and a few tubes, I think they are some type of worm.
<Likely tube worms, usually nothing to worry about.>
Is this growth harmful or is it just part of the corals coloration or maybe a
sunburn?
<Are you referring to the tubes or the dark spots, either way see the above
comment(s).>
I have a 65 gal tank with two 10K, 175 MH's and the coral is placed halfway in
the tank.
<Lighting sounds great, provide lots of water flow an calcium, not to mention
low nutrient levels. If the RTN continues, consider fragmenting the unaffected
areas.>
Thanks for your response and your time!
<Anytime, Adam J.> <<Couldn't find file/image. RMF>>
Montipora 1/14/06
I just purchased a dying Monti cap,<Why on earth would you want to do that,
they are not easily kept to begin with.> but I think I can see some of it's
polyps opening up. The color is still orange. Is that a good sign?<Yes, didn't
bleach out yet.> Also, does hair algae kill corals? <It can, prevents needed
light from reaching them.> I was reading an ad and it seems this man was dying
to have somebody "save" his corals due to a bloom of hair algae. The parameters
are normal, 78 degrees at night and 80 degrees in the day time. Specific
gravity is at 1.025, and I do a 15 gallon water change, on a 90g tank, about
every 10 days. I'm guessing it must be phosphate. Tank equipment includes a
wet/dry filter, ETSS 500 skimmer, a 700g/hr return pump, a Danner mag drive 9.5
to drive the skimmer, and 540w of P.C lighting. Thanks for the help so far. My
tank is looking great. <With your lighting you would have to keep them near the
top of the aquarium as they do require intense lighting, preferably metal halide
or HQI as a major requirement for life. Do search our web site on "feeding
corals" and other related subjects. Most will be found here. James (Salty
Dog)>
Re: Montipora
Thank you for the quick response. The Monti Cap is turning a darker orange
than it was before. Is that a good sign? <Yes, it certainly isn't bleaching.> I
also have a question about Kalkwasser. Can I drip it 24/7 using the Kent's
Marine Aquadoser? It says it only replaces the water lost during
evaporation. Or is it better to use that during the night? <I'm not familiar
with that product from Kent. I suggest you contact Kent Marine for info. In
the future please reply with the original query that includes my remarks. This
just makes the editing/posting confusing. Thank you. James (Salty Dog)>Well,
thanks again. <You're welcome>
Montipora turned brown... 01-10-06
Hey all,
<Jay>
I have a question regarding Montipora turning brown... I've read what seems like
hundreds of questions similar to mine, and I realize that
there is a pretty long list of reasons WHY Montis turn brown, but I just wanted
to run my specifics by you and see what you think.
I have a 90g with two 175w [Hamilton] 6500k bulbs <Here is one possibility. Low
spectrum bulbs lead to more browns.> and dual VHO
actinics (actinics on for 14 hours or so, halides on for 7); 46g refugium and (I
think) a 20g modified wet/dry which I removed the bioballs from. These are all
being supplied by an Iwaki 40rlt and a s.q.w.d. along with 2 zoomed rotating
powerheads in the 90g (I've had them for over a year and a half and they still
rotate, though I do have
to clean them once a month or so.) The skimmer is way under rated, but my lovely
big fuge takes care of my nutrient issues along
with the 100 or so lbs of live rock. No ammo, no nitrites, near 0 nitrate, no
phos, salinity @ 1.024-25, calcium around 400, but
occasionally closer to 500. pH seems to fluctuate between 8.0 and 8.3, but I do
NOT trust my pH test. dKH between 9 and 10. I also use Lugol's
solution once a week <Be careful with this.> as well as strontium/molybdenum,
and until recently iron as well (daily) but I went a bit nuts with it so I
stopped until I get my new salt (marine environment... was using tropic marine,
but I think it sucks). <Be careful and take your time switching salt.>
Now, ALL of my corals are growing really well, but since getting my halides (2
or 3 months ago) I've been experimenting with some SPS.
Aside from three different colors of Montipora (all branching) I also have an
Acro staghorn which is green/brown with great purple tips and
an unknown Acro that was green/brown with light blue between the polyps. When I
put all of these in my tank I light acclimated them for
a week or two (did it each time I added one SPS) and they all turned brownish
within a day or two. The purple tipped Acro got its color back
stronger than ever. The other unknown Acro had a problem I'll assume was
Acro-eating flatworms... won't get into that now though... and it
is also finally getting its colors back. The Montipora though (brown, pinkish
and purple) are staying brown. Obviously the brown Monti wont
change, but I'd like to figure out what is going on with the pinkish and purple.
My lights are 6-8" above the surface (need to measure...);
the pink Monti is 3 or 4 inches below the surface and the purple is about 6
inches below the surface. ALL the Montipora and both acros are
growing like crazy (Acro is very quickly encrusting the rocks they're glued to
as well as branching out a bit, and the Montipora have all
grown at least a couple of centimeters.) I think I've managed to 'train' them to
extend their polyps during the day even though I didn't
mean to, and I feed the whole tank a combo of phyto/zoo plankton, Cyclop-eeze,
oyster eggs, marine snow and chromaMAX (not all at the same
time, usually 1 or 2 every other day or so) on top of the flake and frozen prawn
daily for the fishies. Whew... that was rather long-winded. As you can see, my
only 'problem'
seems to be lack of color in the Montipora, and I would really love to see that
purple Monti turn purple again!! What do you think?
<I believe your Monti would benefit from 10K or 14K bulbs. You may also see an
increase in color with the addition of activated carbon usage. This will keep
the water more clear and help make up for the weak skimmer. Travis>
Thanks
-Jay
Re: Montipora turned brown... 01-10-06 Part 2
Cool, will start using carbon then. As far as the higher Kelvin bulbs go, do
you think there will be any [noticeable] difference in coral
growth if I switch from my current 6500's to 10k or 14k? Only reason I even
bought the 65's were to stimulate more growth, but I don't really
like the yellow tinge they give everything. Oh, and any specific brand of bulb
in your opinion?
<As far as bulbs go... 65K gives you fast growth, but brown color. 20K gives you
good color, but poor growth. 10K and 14K give you average growth with good
color. 10K tends to be a white light and 14K is a bit more blue. As for brands I
suggest sticking with the bigger names such as Hamilton and Ushio. Travis>
Thanks again!!
-Jay
Red Bugs 1/7/06
Hello All,
I noticed some tiny red bugs on my red Monti??
Is this bad? What can I do besides hope my Fridmani eats them??
Thanks.
Jenna
<Mmm, try the Google search tool on WWM's homepage with the term "red bugs".
You'll find your answers thus. Bob Fenner>
New SPS Frags... Long Shipping... What To Expect? - 12/31/05
Hi all...
<<Hello>>
as has been stated by many, you have an awesome site, no fluff all info.
<<Thank you>>
I have read much, but not all of the site, haven't been able to find an answer.
<<ok>>
I just acquired some Acro frags 1 yongei and 2 tortuosa (sp.?).
<<Correct>>
Thanks to shipping problems they were in transit about 40hrs.
<<Uh oh!>>
They arrived white, little or no apparent color, no polyps yet.
<<Expelled their zooxanthellae...or worse...have complete tissue loss.>>
My fears about ammonia in bags and alkalinity of tank water led me to introduce
them to the QT tank after temp adjustment.
<<Smart>>
I'm acclimating lighting using vinyl screen layers.
<<Smart again>>
On intro to QT tank frags had filaments of slime but no other indications of
life.
<<Not unexpected...>>
Don't expect a miracle here but what if anything should I expect from these
frags if water parameters, lighting and flow are optimal, which I think they
are. At what point should I give up on them in your opinion.
<<Mmm...both species of coral have quite visible polyps, if you don't see any
evidence of these after 48 hrs. I think you can assume the worst. You might
also try viewing the frags under some magnification (jeweler's loop/magnifying
glass) to see if you can determine if there is any flesh on the skeleton.>>
This is my first of many cracks at SPS so would like to not overreact.
<<You're not overreacting...40 hours in transit/bleached condition is cause for
concern.>>
Steve
<<Regards, EricR>>
Coral Bleaching - 12/12/05
Hello,
<<Howdy>>
I hope you are well.
<<I am...thank you>>
I have a problem, I have been keeping Acropora (several different species) for
about 4 months, and now one of my smaller frags and my biggest colony is
starting to bleach. The smaller one was bleaching in more of a traditional
sense (as far as I'm concerned), by turning white, and all the polyps have
vanished, but I have seemed to counter act that by moving it closer to the
lights, and it seems to be doing better. Is that possible?
<<Maybe...if the change was not extreme...if the coral was suffering/bleaching
from absence of light. Maybe you got lucky...>>
Is the act of bleaching reversible?
<<Certainly...if it hasn't progressed too long and you can determine/eliminate
the stressors causing the bleaching event.>>
Also, my biggest colony a few tips (maybe 4 of 50) have started to turn a puke
green color, instead of the purple they once were, as well as a portion around
the base. Is this some sort of bleaching?
<<Mmm, maybe tissue damage/loss and the skeleton is being colonized by algae.>>
Can this be repaired, and I'm sorry I could not send a picture due to camera
problems, but if you can help me that would be great.
<<If the damage does not continue (as in being caused by a predator), it will
likely stop/heal on its own.>>
Thank You
<<Regards, EricR>>
Re: Coral Bleaching - 12/13/05
Thank you for your help, things are still shaky and it seems like everyday I
come home from work another coral is showing signs of bleaching, how frustrating
is this hobby?
<<Mmm...a sure sign that something is amiss.>>
I am a long time keeper of soft corals, but these hard corals are tricky.
<<Not so much really, with proper research/understanding...the problem starts
when you mix the two (soft/hard)...puts you at a disadvantage from the get-go.>>
Is there any way to determine what is the stressing element in my tank, could it
be a change in salinity?
<<If wide swings or less than natural seawater concentrations...yes.>>
Do Acropora need direct, and constant water flow?
<<Not "direct"...possibility of blasting the flesh from the skeleton. But
vigorous random flow is essential in my opinion.>>
I currently have 4 Maxi-Jet 1200s hooked to a Wavemaster, and the return from my
sump off a Mag 7, in my 72 gallon, is this not enough?
<<In total volume likely so...the problem may lie in the application. Position
the powerheads so the outputs converge to produce random turbulent flow. Also
check to see that you have flow "throughout" the tank and add more powerheads if
necessary.>>
The only acros that seem to do fine are the ones getting hammered from water
current.
<<May be something telling here. Do have a close look to be sure you don't have
a parasite problem (Acro flatworms, etc.) that get "blown off" the acros with
good flow. Not saying this is your problem, but good to check. I really think
your bleaching is more likely from either the flow issue in general, or
allelopathy (even more likely) from the mix of coral species in the tank. It
would help to add some carbon and Poly-Filter to your filtration if you don't
have it already.>>
Thank you for your help again, and hopefully I can save these corals.
<<Check/adjust your flow as recommended, perform a large water change,
check/adjust the salinity if you think this is suspect, and add the
carbon/Poly-Filter. EricR>>
Acropora animal question 9/20/05
<Hi, Adam J responding to you this evening>
I recently bought an Acropora sp. at one of my LFS. I placed in my tank
and found a small brown looking "bear" on the coral.
<Even though your attached picture was a bit blurry you did a wonderful
job at capturing the animal. It appears to be a common Acropora Crab,
though identifying the exact species is much more difficult, but more
than likely it is harmless.>
Is this safe to leave on the coral or should I try to remove it?
<I would not remove it yet, though I would closely monitor it. Most
Acropora crabs are commensal, feeding off of the waist of the host
coral. Furthermore they usually don’t get very big. (Dime sized is the
biggest I have observed) However a few have been known to pick off/feed
on the polyps, so I would still keep an eye on him. “If you are in doubt
take him out.” By that I mean, if his behavior becomes suspicious (i.e.
visible damage to polyps) I would remove the crab at earliest
convenience.>
I'm including a picture of the animal; not the best quality picture.
<The picture was fine, glad to have helped, Adam J> |
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- Acropora Bleaching -
Hey Guys,
I hope that health is well with all, and I thank you for the opportunity to ask
questions. <Thank you and you're welcome.> I had an Acropora "haimei" coral with
purple tips that I bought months ago. I appeared to be doing well in my 80
gallon with MH lighting 250w 20,000k. Because I purchased a large colt coral
moved the coral to another spot in the tank to prevent it from being stung and
noticed that a piece began to bleach white that night. I placed the coral back
to its original position, but lost in in 3 days. My question is that each time I
read the forums the question is asked if brown algae existed. <Am not sure that
this is more than coincidental - when corals bleach, polyps are dieing which
means the nutrients are going to attract things like BGA.> While the coral was
bleaching brown algae started to appear, but was never there before. My question
is besides moving the coral, what caused it to die off, and what is the "brown
algae" and why is this question always asked? <Well, for starters, could be your
Acropora was on the down-turn from day one. These animals are very finicky, and
need careful acclimation to your tank and lighting. Likewise, they need very
strong water flow throughout their structure in order to stay healthy. Failure
to provide any of the above will result in an eventual breakdown low on the frag
which then often spreads to the rest of the coral. More on light acclimation
here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/acclimcoralslight.htm
As to why folks always ask about brown algae and what its significance is, I can
only speculate.> I appreciate any advice and wish you the best.
Thanks,
Chris
<Cheers, J -- >Re: Acro Bleaching and Lighting 11/14/05
Hi Adam,
<Hello again and sorry for the late reply.>
Many thanks for the reply,
<No trouble.>
The Ph 6.6 and dKH 24 are those of the calcium reactor effluent, the tank alk and ph are towards the top of the list.
<Yes I saw that...and felt quite stupid when I did, guess I wasn't paying attention, okay so
that's obviously not the problem.>
Plenty of water movement, 2 x 12,000lph Tunze stream pumps pointing towards each other constantly running, no timer. I personally feel wave machines are
a complete waste of money, my flow is just as random, maybe even more so than with a timer.
<Yes your water flow is quite adequate and I suspected as much.>
The SPS seem to pale within a few weeks after addition. I usually start them off about mid way and move em to the top. Do you think perhaps there is a
lack of nitrogen/Iron/aminos or something for the zooxanthellae?
<Even with highly efficient skimmers such as yours the average reef tank usually has plenty of nutrients to go around, if you want to give the SPS something else to feed on I have had good luck with DT's oyster eggs.>
After reading a few more posts I am believing that the symbiotic algae aren't doing
too well resulting in the pale colours and lack of polyp expansion. It certainly is a mystery. Let me know your thoughts.
<Correct me if I'm wrong but your lighting was 14K? If so on your next bulb change I would suggest switching to 6500K or 10000K as
zooxanthellae
{zooxanthellae - MH} in my experience prefers lighting within this range, especially shallow water organisms such as
acros.>
Kind regards, Lee
<Adam J.>
Montipora 06/08/05
Hi, I have been in the reef hobby for about 1 year now. I do 10% water
changes weekly, qt religiously and monitor many other parameters (I will give
them to you at the bottom of this email with results from today) on a weekly
basis as well. I have had great luck with soft corals so I decided to give hard
corals a try. I purchased a Montipora capricornis (I believe that this is the
correct scientific name) about 6 weeks ago. After two weeks in qt I moved it to
the bottom of my 75 gallon show tank to get it accustomed to my much brighter
lighting (2-175 MH 20000K, and 4 T5 actinics). After two weeks at this depth I
moved it up to what I had hoped would be its permanent position. About 6 inches
higher. I feed DT's live phytoplankton every other day, and DT's oyster eggs
and frozen Cyclop-eeze together on the days that I don't feed DT's plankton. The
coral had great polyp extension and good color and seemed to be growing until I
came home this morning (six weeks in main display, four
weeks at higher location). About 5 or 6 days ago I set up a new sump system. It
is a 25 gallon high with a 5 inch sand bed (sugar size sand) for growth of
amphipods, copepods, etc... It drains into a 36X 14 X 12 which has a 4 inch
sand bed in it and will act as a place to grow Caulerpa. As usual all corals
drew back some the first few days, but have all returned to their normal size,
color, and polyp size. I added Caulerpa algae to the sump two days ago and it
is doing fine. This morning when I came home the above mentioned Montipora
capricornis had bleached out about 50% and had a lot of clear/brownish slime
coming off of the bleached areas. I used a syringe to blow off the slime and
moved him down a few inches. I see no signs of parasites and the other two
pieces of Montipora in the tank have no signs of this. I smelled him after
blowing the slime off and it smelled like any other thing that would come out of
a marine aquarium--NO foul odor. I was wondering if you could
help me figure out what this is. I have been reading a lot of the FAQs, but
most of them apply to Acro's and other SPS (for lack of a better term). I need
help, I have attached two photos of the coral from different angles to try to
help you. I think it maybe some kind of white band disease, but I didn't think
that it would be this drastic overnight. Thank you for all of your help. I am
sorry this is a long email but I figured extra info could help. Below are the
water parameters from this morning.
pH--7.8
NH4--0
NO3--0
NO2--undetectable on Salifert's test kit
Ca--480ppm
Alk--2.3 mEq/L--has been at this level since the coral was introduced have been
trying to raise with B-Ionic with no avail Salifert's dKH + buffer should be in
Thursday to raise this on up.
PO4--undetectable on Salifert's test kit
salinity--1.026
temp--80.1
<< Everything looks good except your pH is way too low.. Alk like you said is
pretty low. Sounds like you got the brown jelly disease. Which is not any
fun. the best thing you can do is break off a small piece farthest away from
the brown jelly stuff and set that on the opposite side of the tank. This way if
the brown jelly takes the whole colony you hopefully can start it from a frag.
>>
Thanks, again for your time and patience with us newbies
Jonathan << good luck.. EricS >> - Acropora Help -
hi,
<Hi.>
I have been trying to keep Acropora for the last 6 months now and still have no
success. I'm constantly finding that my Acropora bleach, and I'm almost
positive it's not my water. I check and even take my water to a local store who
specialize in Acropora (salty critter), the staff there are some of the most
intelligent reef keepers I've ever met, and every time I take my water there
they tell me it's great and it's ok to try some more Acropora (I think they are
just trying to sell me things, which is why I wanted a non-partisan opinion on
this topic) and usually I think it's my acclimation, or water flow (which led me
to buying 4 new power heads, with circular rotating heads, which they said the
corals would prefer). getting back to the question at hand, in my previous tank
(which was a 38 gallon with 192 watts of power compacts) I kept Acropora with no
problem. now I moved to a 72 gallon tank with 2x 250 watt metal halides, and it
seems like everything is dying. at first I thought it was because I didn't
acclimate them to the lighting, so I went on starting over, and then I noticed I
couldn't really keep anything alive, so then I changed the bulbs, from 10k to
14k. still everything I put in my tank dies, except the fish which are
extremely healthy (purple tang, yellow tang, and a pair of blue striped
clowns). the only thing that I have still is a colony of zooanthids, which have
turned a frosted color, and now are bordering death. so is it possible to have
too much lighting with 500 watts of MH. on a 72 gallon tank? <No, but you need
to acclimate your animals carefully to both the water and your lighting. Please
read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/acclimcoralslight.htm >
should I switch to 20000 k bulbs. thank you it would keep me from pulling my
hair out!
<The color/temperature of the bulbs has very little to do with your animal's
response to your tank. Would suggest you pick up a copy of Eric Borneman's
Aquarium Corals and also avail yourself to the FAQs on our site so you can learn
from other folks besides those at the store. Cheers, J -- >
Rapid Acropora Death 2/8/05
I just purchased a frag of a gorgeous A. albrohensis. It shipped very well I'm assuming because even while acclimating it, all polyps were out and is still had a greenish hue to it. I acclimated it for an hour, turned the MH lights off in the tank (only 2x96W actinics)
running...
<All sounds good, although extended polyps are not a reliable source of "happiness" it can just as easily indicate stress.>
...and glued it down to a rock. Polyps still out.
<What kind of glue, and did the glue contact living tissue? It is unusual, but have seen cases where tissue recession, or even total loss was caused by contact with glue.>
Wake up this morning, and looks like a bone. No polyps anywhere, just skeleton. I quickly turned off the MH that was above it. Checked it several hours later, and maybe one polyp at base of coral.
<Two possibilities... first (and far less likely), the coral bleached. If this is the case, the coral will be colorless, but still covered in living tissue. Second, the coral died. If this is the case, you may see stringy or lacy remnants of tissue clinging to the skeleton. If you don't have
a lot of Acro experience, it may be a bit tough to tell the difference, but on a dead coral, you will be able to see the rough porous texture of the skeleton.>
Is this normal, and it might be fine tomorrow, or did I do something wrong?
<This isn't normal, but it doesn't sound like you did anything wrong. It could have been the stress of shipping, or it could be water quality in your tank.>
Tank is 125G, 2x250W 10K MH with one 400W MH in the middle with the actinic. Like I mentioned, turned off all lighting but actinic when I put it in the tank. No MHs until the following morning, but already looked bad before MHs came on.
<All sounds good. You wisely protected the coral from possible light shock.>
I recently read that peppermint shrimp might do this. I have a pair, but nothing in tank but tangs and clownfish. Any thoughts on if it will recover and adjust, or does it sound like it died?
<Peppermint shrimp will absolutely not do this. They may pick at some corals, but would only cause minor damage to an
Acro. My guess is that the coral died of what is
referred to as "RTN" (Rapid Tissue Necrosis) or "SDR" (Shut down reaction). In these cases, the coral tissue "self destructs" in response to stress. The stress can be caused by shipping, but is more often related to water quality problems, including the presence of other
aggressive corals. Infection has been implicated as well, but this is questionable. Please feel free to write back with a list of other corals in the tank and a list of all of your test results (actual values please!), please include pH, Alkalinity, Calcium, Salinity, temperature and nitrate. Also briefly describe your filtration. Best Regards. AdamC.>
Acropora fading in a tiny tank
Hello,
<Hi there>
I brought an Acro on Saturday and by Sunday some of It's purple color on its peeks are fading away. I have him in a 10 gall nano tank, water checks out fine and I'm running it on 8 watts per gallon.
Also I have great flow in the tank. What could this be? Could it be that it is acclimating to my tank?
<Not acclimating more like it... if the color, vitality is lost... it will not likely return>
I have him real close to the light on top of the rocks is it to close should I move him lower?
Thanks for your time!!!
<No, thank you for yours. Please study on WetWebMedia.com re small marine systems:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/setup/index.htm
and the genus Acropora... Bob Fenner>
RTN?
Please take a look at the attached photo (sorry about the quality).
Tissue is sloughing off, I assume hermit crab is eating dead tissue and
is not the cause. < I would say that as well. > Perused many comments
regarding RTN on your site, is this what it looks like? This Acro has
been in the tank for 6 months without symptoms and several other Acros
look normal. About the only change recently is switch to Reef Crystal
from IO. Have not verified all parameters yet, what I do know is pH 8.2,
dKH 12, Ca 350, temp stable at 77-78*F. I guess my question is, if I do
find something amiss and slowly correct it, what are the prospects for a
full recovery? < Looks like a perfect example. Chance of recovery is
very very bad. I would immediately frag that coral. I used to advise
otherwise but every time I did the reefer would lose their coral. So
now, I say frag many many pieces away from the RTN area and just hope
the remaining mother colony makes it. Sorry I can't be more optimistic
but I wouldn't wait this one out. >
Regards, George.
< Blundell > |
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Acro Mower
Hi Bob
<<Good morning, Lorenzo here filling in for the rest of the crew, off at MACNA in Texas.>>
Yesterday morning I noticed that one of my staghorns had an eaten path carved in
it. Something had sucked the polyps right off. <<Yikes!>> I'm looking in the tank to see what could have done this. I found a weird snail with a long trunk not far from where the stag is. Do you know of any snails that eat
SPS? <<Definitely, but not very common.>> What else should
I be looking for? <<There are a number of animals that will do this, including snails,
Nudibranchs, and sea-spiders (quite rare, but sometimes seen, and does exactly that). At least if it's a tight, "path" you can probably rule out your fish. You may need to observe at night, with a red or blue flashlight to uncover your killer... Good luck!
-Zo>>
Acropora bleaching question
I just acquired three pieces of medium Acropora which came in fine.
<be careful of such statements or beliefs. Most corals are somewhat to severely stressed for the first couple of weeks on import. Its just not that obvious unless flesh is falling off>
After slowing acclimating to my 30g holding tank (before I put it into the main tank), it was fine for a day. Then the next morning (2 days after acquisition),
<Yowsa... a problem already my friend! A mere two day holding period was more harm than good. This animal that was
put through several changes in lighting (and extended periods of darkness) on import had to go from another lighting scheme at your vendors holding tank to your holding tank to your display tank all within the same week. Such drastic changes are a great burden on the limited resources of a coral. A longer QT in mod light with mod to heavy feeding would have been better. 4 weeks is a proper QT acclimation. Also, do review the following:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/acclimcoralslight.htm>
the whole tank was cloudy and everything in that holding tank was dead (2 snails, a small
Kole tang). All three pieces of Acropora were bleached white. I guessed something caused it to release its
zooxanthellae.
<stress indeed>
Anyhow, my question is this, will these pieces of Acropora slowly recover their zooxanthellae or are they pretty much dead.
<that depends on if the corallum is denuded of tissue or the tissue simply bleached pigmentation. If the latter, then yes it will recover. You should see clear polyps extended conspicuously if so. Heavy feeding with zooplankton will be critical then (do so in a small QT please). Live rotifers would be excellent>
They were fine 24 hours ago, and have been moved to the sump of my main display. Thanks Jim
<Jim... moving any coral is truly one of the most dangerous things to do. Even moving an established coral 2-3 times in a week can be enough to kill it. It is a bad habit, my friend and has contributed to the demise of this animal at least to some extent. To better days... Anthony>
Acropora bleaching?
Hi guys, 'hope you're all well.
<Anthony and Steve here in San Diego with Bob... drinking beer and answering e-mail. Yep...
we're very well <smile>>
one of my across, dark purple valida is starting to whiten, no peeling off just white. Is this due to a loss of light as it has now grown nicely and maybe overshadowing its base. Also it's been quite hot these last few days and the temp gradually reached 83.
<many possibilities for bleaching... light shock (water change, new carbon after absence, etc), lack of nitrate/nitrogen/feeding, and of course temp as suspected. If increase was 3 or more degrees in 24 hrs,
then it is a real candidate>
Could it be a lack of a certain vitamin or maybe even strontium.
<not likely>
All parameters are great, the tank is 2 years old and the valida is the only of my
across which is giving me trouble.
Any info would be great, thanks.
<my regrets, but not enough info my friend. Do consider the above possibilities>
Stefi/London
<best regards, Anthony>
Re: Acropora bleaching question
Anthony, thanks for the response. I wasn't doing the QT for just a few days. It was meant for several weeks. That is how I have always acclimated my corals and has worked well.
<ahhh... I misunderstood. Thanks you and kudos to you for the good technique>
It allows me to gradually acclimate their lighting to what their position in my main tank is. I'm sorry if you got the impression that I was just putting it in there for 2 days. . .
<no...thank you, my friend. The limitations of e-mail :)>
Still not sure what would cause it that would cause the entire tank to go milky white and stink. Very possibly the little
Heliofungia that has been in there for awhile.
<indeed some rotting tissue>
This tank is fairly stable as it is my coral acclimation tank. Oh well, thanks for the input and yes I agree with your assessments about stress. Now I'll just have to slowly nurture this back to health in my qt tanks. Jim
<yes... corals are amazingly resilient! If there is any tissue still left, it will likely survive. Good water flow and feedings are the key for now... lighting not so much. Kindly, Anthony>
Browning Acropora
Hello BAS,
I've been an avid aquarist for quite some time and have read this column more
faithfully than I've gone to work. There is no point in attempting this question
with my LFS, as they are currently feverishly
culturing Aiptasia anemones for sale (despite my unsolicited advice). My
question pertains to the browning of SPS corals. I not-so-recently purchased a
pink Acropora loripes despite my measly three and a half watts per gallon. I
thought that if I placed the coral high enough in the water column that it would
negate the fact that I didn't possess the high wattage usually required for this
type of coral. I soon noticed several Aiptasia anemones of my own on this
specimen, but unlike my LFS, I quickly dispatched of them with injections of
Part A of the C-Balance duo. But with the bad comes the good and I also
discovered a red Coco Worm with bi-lobed crowns attached to the base of the
coral. The A. loripes itself has grown, which is quite apparent by its base
coverage of the live rock I attached it to. My disappointment is that the color
that was originally bright pink has now darkened into an almost rust color (It's
been brown for over six months but still growing). Most sources indicate that
the browning of SPS corals is due to inadequate lighting and an overabundance of
symbiotic algae, but none discuss the reversal of this condition. For this
reason I have recently up-graded to metal halides. My questions are, how do I
acclimate an entire reef tank to two watts more per gallon,
<It would be great if you have a lux-meter. Start the MH's up pretty high so
that their output matches that of your current lighting. Another trick is to
cover the tank in several sheets of vinyl window screening to cut back on the
amount of light entering the tank. Then gradually lower the lights and/or remove
a sheet over the course of several weeks. If you cannot verify the difference in
output, attempt to make an educated guess by referencing the work of Dana
Riddle, Sanjay Joshi, and Richard Harker. They have all conducted studies on
various lighting setups and lamps and they may have comparison info about your
old and new systems.>
and do you have any suggestions about the Kelvin of the lamps I should purchase?
<I like 6,500K Iwasaki lamps and 10,000K Aqualine-Buschke or Ushio lamps.>
I am a big fan of D. Knop and he suggests for most tanks with invertebrates that
are found near the surface ( I have two four inch T. Maximas as well) nothing
higher than 6.5K, but I have read many online magazines as well as
advertisements in TFH tout 10K as the ultimate true white light.
<Some 10,000K lamps are quite good, but many are just marketed and hyped
well. Most 6,500K lamps could use supplemental actinics for appearance. They do
have enough blue light for good photosynthesis without it, but they have so much
red, yellow, and green, that to our eyes the corals may not appear pleasing.>
I'd just like a little information on the reversal of browning and how it has
been achieved, as I've noticed recently, even some online suppliers advertise
SPS that will color up with the right lighting.
<Increasing your lighting is the way to correct the situation.>
Thanks, Andrea
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
Acropora emergency
I can't stand it. I just can't stand it. <sigh>
You've been helping me with some lighting issues,
which I really appreciate, but I'm starting to think it's not the lighting. My
biggest problem is that I
can no longer seem to keep Acropora alive.
<so many possibilities>
I had two pieces for a couple of months before a water circulation problem
(blown pump) killed them. I had acclimated them, and they seemed
otherwise healthy, so I replaced them with another piece, but stupidly didn't
acclimate. It bleached within a week. OK, I thought, my
fault, and for the replacement to the replacement, I've gone the whole nine
yards, with the screen method, to acclimate. Everything's been fine
for a week...and today I get up to find the bases of several of the branches are
bleaching. I've checked most of what I can think to check: am,>ni, nitrate
all zero; Ca at 500;
<lets stop here. We may have a water quality issue. Either your Ca test is
inaccurate (500ppm Ca is dangerously high if even possible in most tanks without
a precipitation of Alkalinity)... Or... your alkalinity is on the floor! I can
almost guarantee you that if you test your Alkalinity/hardness that you are well
under 10dKH. Quite frankly... I won't be surprised if you are under 6dKH! Very
dangerous and could easily foul Acropora and other SPS. Target 8-12 dKH and
350-425ppm Ca but not the high en of both simultaneously. Use a LFS or another
test to compare your kit's accuracy of a water test>
with a chiller, the temp stays at 78 24x7. If you recall, I had 20K
250W>MH lights when I got the piece, but switched to 10K for a couple days
due to other issues; I've put the 20K bulbs back, but with the heavy screen it's
had, I didn't think that would cause the piece to start bleaching, especially
literally overnight - I looked at it last night, it was not bleached at all
(believe me, I've been checking 5 times a day). I have noticed that
the polyps never really have extended, but I thought it was due to the move and
have been waiting it out.
<the switch was indeed stressful... but I am wondering if this isn't really a
problem with skewed Ca/Alk dynamics or consistency>
Is there anything I can do to save this piece?
<we need to ID the cause before we can say whether to pull the coral or
not>
I'm sick of watching Acropora bleach. Other corals (mostly LPS and
soft) all seem fine -
<more tolerant>
including a large branching Hydnophora excesa (I believe - it's a fuzzy-looking
green branching SPS), which has done fine from the beginning.
<it is one of the worlds hardiest corals... I have seen them propagated by
literally running them through a band saw!!!>
Any ideas? Or am I just going to remain an Acropora killer? Arthur
<no worries... we will figure it out in due time. Anthony>
Re: Acropora Emergency
An update; I performed a few moderate water changes over the last two days, and
have swapped out the equivalent of 60% of the original water. The new
reading for Ca shows around 420, but I'll let it
settle for a day before reading it again. Alk is still 11. Things
seem a little "perkier", but they always do after a water change -
probably a good indication that my skimmer just wasn't cutting it.
The Acropora emergency is over - it's bleached over 75% of the piece, so I
expect it'll croak. RTN
stinks. I'll go back to daily Ca checks for a while until I get some
stability.
<Sounds fine now, sorry about the Acro. Test calcium and alk and then let it
run for four days with no supplements. Test again and divide difference by four.
That is what you should dose of calc and alk supplements daily. 11
alk and 420 calcium is just on the high end of optimum for both. They could both
come down a little with no problem.>
I've already purchased the Remora Pro (today), so at this point, over the last 2
months, I've replaced or
added: the chiller (1/4 HP), canister filter (Hagen 404) leading into a UV
sterilizer (CSL double helix,
to help fight ich - won't be permanently on), lighting (from 4x110W VHO to MH),
and now the protein skimmer (Remora Pro). The last thing I'm going to
do is convert the sump to a refugium (when I can remove the in-sump skimmer I
have and get the room back). For a 75 gallon tank, I have to believe
this is getting close to optimum conditions- I suppose I could always add a Ca
Reactor, but that isn't going to happen soon (not if I want to stay married :)). If
I can't get some stability now, I really *will* consider changing to
guppies...:) Thanks for the help... Arthur
<Hmmm, sounds like my house.... Do have fun! Craig>
Acropora "mites" AKA 'Red Amphipods"
I have a 10 gallon nano with some small SPS frags and
I have notices small orange mites crawling around on a
couple of the Acropora frags.
<ahhh, yes... not uncommon at all. A curious little arthropod. AKA "red
Amphipods">
They look like little fleas. They are very small but viewable to the naked eye.
What can be done?
<some say they are parasitic, but I and most aquarists do not believe this to
be true. No proof yet. At best they flourish incidentally while SPS corals
wane/die from other common denominators (water quality, lack of QT, etc)>
Is there a safe dip or treatment I could give?
<some have employed FW dips... I do not believe this is necessary>
Are these parasitic or commensal?
<the jury is still out... leaning towards commensal>
I have searched and found no information on these.
<do a keyword search on reefcentral.com and other large message boards for
perspective (use "Red Acropora Mites", "Red Amphipods",
etc.) to get a consensus. My advice is to simply watch carefully and do employ a
natural predator if possible (Red Sea pseudochromid, small wrasse, etc)>
Thank you ahead of time for any help.
<best regards, Anthony>
Acropora Tissue Recession
Hey Crew!
<whassup?!?>
I am not sure what to do with my Staghorn Acropora.
<grow it, frag it, trade it... get more Acroporas>
Its about 5in diameter purple branching and showing steady growth from the axial corallites. Everything seems normal however there is very slow tissue recession at the base.
<a common symptom... many reasons for this... inadequate water flow, static posterior lights (as from focused pendant halides instead of nicely reflected horizontal mount bulbs or bulbs on tracks), disease (rare)>
There appears not to be any peeling of tissue at all; just seems like every week when
I look at the white band at its base its getting wider. I guess its losing about an 1/8 inch weekly. Odd to me because
I have had the "Rapid" variety before and it definitely is not showing this. Furthermore
I have purchased other Acropora on the net that looks to have some old recession that has since been grown over with new tissue on top of the dead parts.
<good to hear... but please be sure to QT all new animals... fishes, corals, crustaceans, mollusks...ALL! 2-4 weeks minimum to reduce risk of transmitting disease>
When I originally received this internet bought Acropora I thought they ripped me off by sending me a
Trojan horse to destroy the rest of my corals, but after close observation, the recessed parts are not expanding and is showing good polyp extension.
<at any rate... Trojan horses only work if you let them into the castle, right? Please always quarantine all livestock, my friend. It is proper and responsible if not respectful to the living treasures we keep>
Does this mean that some Acroporas may begin to recess then just as quickly stop and begin new growth?
<so many reasons for healing and receding. Cannot be summarized as such>
Also I have a Stylophora pink...again its showing good growth, but there are spots of some kind of algae with fibers that seems to be spreading, although very slow....what should
I do about this.
<Hmmm... very indicative. Stylo's also require massive water flow. I'm wondering what your flow is? The old rule of thumb at 10X turnover is pathetic and antiquated for modern reef tanks. I myself am running about 2400 GPH in a 50 gallon. It is dispersed in random
turbulent patterns. You'd never guess it to be that high by looking at it... but the corals know! Do consider>
I have placed this Stylophora at the end of a powerhead for better circulation and
I occasionally will use my hand to fan away the algae.
<Arghhh... please no linear flow (in front of the PH). Such reef corals need strong surge or random turbulent flow. Few reef corals will tolerate linear/laminar>
Regards, Dennis
<best regards, Anthony>
Acropora injury
Hi! I have 440watts of PC lighting and a beautiful piece of
purple
>Acorpora(5x4 inches in size) which is from my local fish store Purchased 2
months ago)- It has about 8 different large branches coming off it. It
did fine for the first 6 weeks. It still is doing fine but 2 weeks ago one of
the branches started to turn white at the very tip of the branch. This
particular branch is about two inches tall. For about a week, the whiteness
worked its way down the branch. I became very worried the whole coral was
going to di. But now it looks like the whiteness/it stopped progressing>down
the branch. For over a week it hasn't become worse. It only worked
its way down about 1/4 inch of the 2 inch branch. The whiteness has now turned
brown.
<it is difficult to diagnose without seeing it or a photo, but it sounds like
tissue became infected and denuded. The white corallum (skeleton) was exposed
and has now been attacked by diatoms. The coral may reclaim or lose tissue. Hard
to say. Do you really have the tank for SPS corals? Very stable Alk, Magnesium
and Calcium? You test for these things regularly and dose daily? What have your
parameters been specifically?>
Are my worries over?
<I suspect this is a mixed garden tank too... mushroom anemones, LPS corals,
soft corals. Going to be challenging to keep the SPS more than 1 year here>
If not, What can I do to help this coral? I do have other Acroporas for over 4
months that had no problems- Should I
consider cutting this tip off and allow the branch to grow back?
<Definitely break this branch off... if is easier to regrow a branch than
reclaim one with diatom algae>
Please let me know.- Thanks Ron
<you may want/need some more information before proceeding too much further
with delicate SPS corals. I get the vibe that you are very new to at least this
aspect of reefkeeping. Live animals here... not stereos or widgets. Perhaps you
should get (or read) a good book too before buying another coral my friend. Let
me suggest Eric Borneman's "Aquarium Corals". Covers corals diseases
at great length too. Best regards, Anthony>
Bleached coral- how to handle
We have a 20 gallon reef tank in our home. Recently we have been given an
Acropora. However it is white with blue/purplish tips.
<ahhh... bleached with only U.V reflecting pigments left. This coral will die
within a year if it is not fed and colors up (likely brown... hopefully... with
purple tips>
I have read about them and understand that there is no naturally white Acropora.
<exactly correct>
I came across a post on your website that described a similar Acropora. The
Acropora we have although white is loaded with green polyps. What is your
opinion on this Acropora?
The coral is indeed bleached and the pigments you are looking at are reflective
proteins and not zooxanthellae>
Would the polyps still be open and thriving if the Acropora was bleached?
<absolutely...one thing has nothing to do with the other (feeding
organismally on nanoplankton versus symbiosis. What you need to do is fed this
coral... but because the polyps are so small (and your mention of a 20 gall
display leads me to believe that you do not have a plankton generating
refugium), there is likely little hope for this coral to survive here. If you do
not choose to move the coral to another tank, however... my advice is to make
sure that you have a source of nitrogen in the tank (allow nitrates to linger).
If your nitrates are low, you can make an ammonium or nitrate solution to dose
the tank with (carefully) to feed the coral. Also, know that this coral will not
eat bottled green phytoplankton. It needs zooplankton so small that you cannot
provide it from a bottle or can. Do consider adding an upstream refugium to your
tank (no Caulerpa though). Gracilaria or Chaetomorpha will help you to grow
nutritious plankters for your corals below>
Thanks for your time and help. Sincerely, Tana Landau
<best regards, Anthony>
Something eating SPS - Montipora
Anthony, happy holidays and hope all is well with you.
<Adam here today. Anthony bumped this over to me since I just
dealt with this problem in my own tank.>
I noticed one of my recent frags, a Montiporas Cap, that is purple
in color bleached around the edges about a quarter of an inch. This
is more then the normal white tips from growth. I attributed
this to a drop in Alk while I was adjusting to my winter evaporation
rate.
<I did pretty much the same thing. I attributed it to water
quality, did some water changes and never really inspected the coral
closely.>
However, I have noticed a small white spiral looking thing on the white part of
the coral. Looks almost like a very small white fan worm (at least
the ends of the fan worm anyway).
<The critter you saw is an Aeolid Nudibranch. They seem to
becoming quite common in the hobby, likely from frag trading. They
seem to favor plating Montiporas, but will move on to branching forms.>
I also noticed a small white area on my
established, thriving purple cap. Could this be a bug or
something? Any ideas or am I just seeing things.
<The white spots are where the Nudi's have eaten the coenosteum (tissue
between polyps) of the coral. Unfortunately these are very real and
quite difficult to get rid of. Manual removal is the only way to do
so without significant risk of killing the coral. You will have to
remove the infested corals every day or couple of days and pick or scrub off any
Nudibranchs or eggs. It may be best to this in a bucket of tank water
since the critters tend to collapse under their own weight and become difficult
to spot out of the water. After you are 100% sure you have eliminated
them, continue to check your Montiporas at least weekly. I continued
to find one or two a week for about a month.>
Thanks
<No Sweat, and best of luck! Adam>
Andrew
Tissue Necrosis on Acropora 3/28/04
The bottom of this Acro seems to be dying and slowly moving up. The dead
area you see in the picture took about 10 days to get that high. It's about 1/2
inch by 1-1/2". I've included a picture of it while it was healthy also.
What is it and how do I fix it??
Thanks in advance - Chris in Georgia
<there are numerous possible reasons and few if any clear answers to why
tissue necrosis occurs in SPS corals. Without a speck of information on your
system, I cannot speak to the possibilities. Please do use the terms
"tissue necrosis Acropora SPS" and various combinations in a keyword
search of our site and beyond. Also, do read Eric Borneman's excellent coverage
of coral pathology n his book "Aquarium Corals". Kindly, Anthony>
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Acro Suffering Algae
Hello Folks-
<howdy>
I have a beautiful Acro that has a brown film algae develop on the tips. At
first I thought nothing of it but it has now spread from on or two tips to about
6 or 7 . It seems to be only on the tips and spread to a few corallites near the
tips and not down the whole stalk. I moved the coral away from any direct
current but that has not helped. I am worried that it may be the beginning of
the end for one of my favorite pieces. (tried water changes)....Any ideas ? Is
this a common occurrence ?. (BTW no other across in the tank have any problems
including the frags of this colony) Dan
<without a picture of better description, I'm not much help here. For a
diatom or other brown algae growth to be encroaching live tissue, you
would/should be reporting receding flesh/tissue of the Acropora. In such cases,
the tissue is sometimes even long since denuded and its the corallum that is
being settled. If this coral had direct laminar flow before, that may have been
the problem (unnatural water flow which pummeled healthy flesh into giving way
to brown algae). Do send clear full-frame picture if you can. Thanks kindly,
Anthony>
Acro Suffering Algae II 3/1/04
Thanks Anthony, I have attached two pictures. I have yet to master this
(**^$^% digital camera.
<Hmmm... yes, helpful. The color and apparent texture of the algae remind me
of a dinoflagellate infection instead of a diatom algae. Do check you pH and
Alkalinity. Dinos like this often show up when the aforementioned are flat
(under 9dKH and under 8.3 respectively). Aggressive protein skimming and daily
use of Kalkwasser alone can eradicate this pest. DO let us know if it helps!
Anthony>
Yellow with a red dot Acro bugs 5/3/04
Hi, I have some Acropora corals that are infested with little yellow oval
shaped bug like things on them. I am afraid that they are hurting or eating the Acropora
corals. How can I get rid of them? I have a yellow Coris wrasse and a mandarin
fish but they are not eating the bugs. If I use SeaChem's coral dip, will it
kill these pests? Thanks, Adam
<Hi Adam. Adam here<g>. There is much debate
about these critters and why they appear, what they feed on, if they are
harmful, how to get rid of them, etc., etc. Some folks have had
success with predators, commensal crabs or clown gobies, but none are 100%
reliable. I never like to send anyone elsewhere for info, but I don't
have any first hand experience and there is A LOT of discussion in the forums at
www.reefcentral.com. Good luck! Adam>
Alkalinity drop 7/23/04
I had been using Rowaphos for a few months with no problems. Unfortunately
while on vacation, my Calcium Reactor output hose clogged up and the alkalinity
dropped from around 10 to 6 ! This severely stressed out several of my favorite
colonies including:
Tri-Color Acro - this is the worst one hit but there are some live branches with
many polyps under the dead white tips.
Hydnophora - looks like this may recover from the bleaching
Baby Blue Acro Frags- have many of these so not a biggy
Blue Acro tortuosa - Tips are turning white, not sure if it will make it. One of
my more expensive and most favorite pieces.
<I am not convinced that a drop in alk to 6 would be enough by itself to
cause this. How sure are you that nothing died while you were away,
causing an ammonia spike and how sure are you that your temperature did not rise
more than about 4-6 degrees above normal?>
My questions are: What is the difference between bleaching and RTN ?
My colonies did not all die in a matter of hours, but instead are bleaching
slowly....although now that I have stabilized the water parameters (Ca = 430,
Alk = 10) the bleaching has slowed but still continues.
<Bleaching is the expulsion of zooxanthellae. RTN is a condition
where the coral "self destructs" and the animal itself dies and the
tissue sloughs off of the skeleton. I agree with your move to correct
the alkalinity, and recommend carefully monitoring temperature, alkalinity, pH
and other parameters and focus on STABILITY! I would not try to
aggressively correct any other parameter unless it is dangerous (ammonia?).>
Should I remove the affected colonies ?
<I would not. Moving them would be another undue stress.>
Should I frag the affected colonies to save what I can, or leave them alone and
hope they recover ?
<I would leave them alone.>
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
<In the mean time, I would recommend lowering your light levels a bit. I
would do this by reducing intensity first (fewer lamps running, raising lamps
higher above tank) and only shorten the photoperiod if you don't have any other
choice. After a week or so, work your lighting back to normal over a
week or so. Best of luck! Adam>
Monti Eating Nudibranchs and predatory starfish I 8/11/04
Dear Bob Anthony,
<cheers, my friend>
First and foremost I wanted to say thank you for everything you do. I believe it
can truly be said that this phenomenal hobby has advanced so much over the years
because of your dedication to it!
<thanks kindly... it is a labor of love>
I had a quick question if you don't mind, and also wanted to bring to your
attention an interesting experience that occurred. I am of the opinion that
everything in the wild has its purpose, and will not try to eradicate anything
unless it is truly harmful.
<agreed... and yet, there is a joke somewhere in there about politicians. Well
give lawyers a pass on this one>
I have a fairly large system with 8 plating Montis in it. I went on vacation and
when I returned I noted two plating Montis were suffering severe tissue loss. I
thought the issue was more water quality related, particularly since my calc
reactor had been down for several weeks and the filter socks needed cleaning.
Despite water changes and dosing with Kalk, the affected Montis continued to
RTN. I had heard of these little predatory Nudibranchs, but did not think there
was a chance I had them. I fragged one of the Montis, and what do ya know there
they were. Tons of them (to be honest, even though I have an obvious degree of
hatred for them, they are fascinating).
<Arghhh... you have not been diligent about quarantining your livestock my
friend. 'Tis why you have this pest now. Do QT all things wet in the future -
live food, live sand and rock, snails, corals, fishes, everything! <G>>
My problem is the effected colony encrusted hardcore onto a large piece of rock,
there is no way I can pry it lose. I am suspect that these suckers are
concentrated under the base. Is there anyway to rid of these things?
<they are very difficult indeed... do check the extensive threads on this topic
at reef central. I cannot say the bad news any better than they have :p>
Is there anything in the wild that eats them?
<certainly.. but reef-safe? Hmmm... spec at this point. Some have said various
wrasses and dragonets. None excel though reliably>
I do have one CBB, but I would think some form of reef "safe" wrasse would be
better.
<perhaps... Tamarins or small yellow/green "Coris">
Also, wanted to mention in the past there was a dispute as to whether these
little brown starfish we all have actually eat SPS (i.e. GARF).
<Asterina species... and yes, I have read the GARF info. I do not believe it is
accurate.>
I had been in the SPS end of things and never had an issue so I was not
concerned. Indeed they do eat SPS, the other colony I referred to above had tons
of these brown starfish on the underside, right were the run line was on each
plate. What is stranger, I have tons of across and non have been affected. Looks
like it is time to buy a harlequin (there are plenty of these things to last the
harlequin quite a long time). As always thanks!!!!!!!!
<do check out my take on Asterina and other sea stars in the recent article on
reefkeeping.com from a couple of months ago. Best regards, Anthony Calfo>
Monti Eating Nudibranchs and predatory starfish II
8/11/04
By the way, I am curious (from a scientific perspective) as to whether these
predatory Nudi's show a preference for certain species of plating Monti, or
whether this is just a random event.
<there are quite a few opisthobranchs that are obligate on one species of
invertebrate or very limited (by genus usually) otherwise. There are lists of
slug species and their prey available on the web. DO check out resources like
the seaslug forum. We also have an extensive list of web sites and references on
seaslugs in the bibliography of our book "Reef Invertebrates" by Calfo and
Fenner 2003>
What I think is strange is the Nudi's have only affected one colony, none of the
others have them (at least not yet). It would be neat to take frags of say 10
types of plating Monti, and see which species they show a statistically
significant preference for
Thanks
<please do take photos and tell us of your findings if not write an article.
Anthony>
Red bugs on SPS
hi, Bob, how's going? << Blundell here as well. >> This is George in SDMAS.
<< Hey George, hope all is well. >> Got a question for you
about red bugs. I am sure you probably read some posts online about it.
Some ppl use a heart worm medication call "interceptor" to get rid of the
red bug. Supposedly the only side effect known at
this point is that the
medication kills most if not all the crustaceans and everything else seems
to do fine. << Wow, I wouldn't call that all successful. If it kills all the
other crustaceans then I would stay clear of that method. >> Someone also said
that pipe fish eats the red bugs.
So I decided to do an experiment. I have Ron got me some dragon pipe fish.
I put them in my refugium/frag tank. Saturday they feel comfortable enough,
the male start to compete against each other to see who is most handsome and
the female pipe fish just doing whatever they are doing like nothing is
going on. So I dropped a SPS colony that has red bugs on it in the
refugium/frag tank. So far I only observe 2 pipe fish swim onto the colony
look around for food, but some how they didn't eat any of the bugs.
SO they either don't realize those bugs are food, or perhaps not that
hungry, or some how they can't see them. Since pipe fish aren't build for
living in rough water, so I am more leaning toward they don't know what the
red bugs are.
<Me too>
<< Definite possibility. But with time, and hunger, they may go for it. Or, is
possible that the red bugs aren't food at all for them. >>
I am planning on feeding the pipe fish some Cyclops eeze tonight by squirt
some into the SPS colony, hopping maybe the pipe fish will eventually
associate the bug and food together. But of course they have to start
eating the Cyclops eeze first.
<< Good idea, and just about everything will go for Cyclop-eeze. >>
My question is that from all your dives and observations when you were
diving. Do you know if any fish/shrimp/crab....etc that live in the reef
that might eat these red bugs??
<I don't, but suspect there is definitely some predator/s>
<< I would think a wrasse would be the best choice. Probably trying a rock
mover (dragon wrasse) or six line wrasse. >>
If you do, I would appreciate if you let me know. I am sure I can spend
money and try all the reef safe fish that I think might eat things like red
bug, but don't have that kind money to throw around.
<< I wouldn't spend any money on chemical treatments. I would stick with fish
(wrasse) or maybe even a Mithrax crab. >>
Hope to hear from you soon. Have a great day!
Sincerely,
George
<Hey George. Am sending your note/query to our Crew... as they are much more
current on this issue. Be seeing you, Bob F>
<< Blundell >>
Acro Question
Hello. thanks for all the help keeping my reef in wonderful condition. Your
expertise has been tremendous. I currently have run into what I think is
possibly another small problem. I have an Acro which I got as a frag about 3-4
months ago. I attached it high up in my tank plenty of light and it seems to be
doing quite well. It has definitely grown I see good polyp extension and all in
all it looks fairly healthy. My concern is this. Imaging the Acro as a kind of
an inverted tripod. At least the three main legs which have begun branching on
their own but for our sake lets think that there are three main legs. The
smallest of the legs which seems to have shown the least growth and looks the
least healthy, has begun to over the last month slime over. The slime appears to
be a white slime, fuzz, etc that is only on the tip of the one Acro branch. So
if the branch was say 2 inches, the bottom inch and 3/4 is looking fine with
polyps out etc while the top 1/4 inch seems to be covered in this white stuff. I
can't blow it off with current at least not easily, a baster used for feeding
etc, or rub it off with a light touch from my gloved hand. When I look close it
almost looks like some of the white may actually be skeleton of the coral maybe
it is dying as a result of the slime, maybe the slime is a result of death but
it is really hard to tell as the very tip definitely looks soft and seems to be
able to be blown off the coral although never completely. Is this normal? What
can I do to reverse this trend, remove the white and get back my healthy frag?
Should I cut off the branch? Can it spread to the other branches? It has been
there for at least a month now and doesn't seem to be spreading although it
looks like more quantity of slime has developed with time. Any help would be
again greatly appreciated.
-Jonathan
>>>Hi Jonathan,
My first concern would be current. Make sure you have plenty! It should not be
linear, but as turbid as possible. Secondly, you may just be seeing an area of
tissue loss due to injury. Algae soon colonizes an area such as this. In most
cases, given proper conditions, it will get no worse. It does not sound like a
case is necrosis to me.
Good luck
Jim<<<
Branching Acropora resurrected...is this possible?
Hi Bob,
<Anthony Calfo in his stead>
I have a most interesting phenomenon occurring in my 100 gallon reef tank. On
my last visit to a LFS the owner gave me an (apparently) dead piece of branching
Acropora to use as decoration. This fragment was sitting on a shelf and was
completely bone dry. It had probably been out of the water for several weeks.
Anyway, I put the dead coral (bone white in color) in a niche among my live
rock. For about two weeks it still looked the same. On the third week or so I
started to notice that the coral was taking on a light red tinge. Right now,
after about 4 weeks, it looks almost exactly like one of the pictures on your
site. The whole thing has a light red tinge and the tips of the branches are a
darker shade of red. Is it even possible for a dead coral to regenerate like
this?
<Not likely after weeks out of water>
The only other possible explanation that I can think of is that it is red algae
growing on the dead coral.
<a much more likely scenario indeed>
This seems unlikely to me, though, because I already have a bit of red slime
algae growing on my overflow and it is a much darker shade of red.
<ahhh... there are many thousands of algae species this could be>
I did have a problem with red slime algae a couple of months ago, but it
completely cleared up except for the small area that I mentioned. There is no
new red algae growing anywhere else in the tank.
<but there are the "seeds"/spores" of many not expressed but floating in the
water pending optimal conditions or substrates to settle out from/on>
My tank is not that old (only 5 months), but it is in great shape. I have a
deep sand bed and lots of live rock. I have a venturi skimmer in a 20 gallon
sump, but that is it. The sand bed, live rock and skimmer have been maintaining
the water with little to zero measurable ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. I add
calcium powder as necessary, trace elements about once a week, and phytoplankton
about twice a week. I have 2 VHO daylight bulbs and 2 VHO blue actinics. The
Acropora is sitting directly under the lights and gets fairly strong current.
Thank you in advance for your wisdom on this phenomena. Whit Liggett
<best regards, Anthony>
Acroporas turning brown
Hi WWM! <Hi Jen, MacL here with you tonight.>
I know you all are so busy these days, I have tried to research this on my own
and can't really find a lot of info on Acroporas turning brown. I have asked
several online dealers and the LFS, but I get very conflicting information. <I
can tell you right now that's because multiple things can turn the corals
brown.> I have been told I didn't have enough lighting (when I had 2 X 150W HQI
MH), and upgraded to 2 X 250W HQI MH, and now have been told I have too much
lighting. <Did you acclimate the corals to the stronger lighting? By acclimate I
mean did you give them time to grow accustomed to the stronger lighting by
putting them on for less hours or perhaps higher above the tank?> I don't know
how much info you need to be able to tell me why this is happening, but here
goes. . .
80 gallon tank, setup three years ago. 100 lbs. of LR, 60-80 lbs. LS, Lighting:
2X 250 W HQI MH 14k, 2X 96 W PC Actinics, mounted 10" off top of tank. Aqua C
Remora Pro (upgraded skimmer 6 months ago), 4 Maxi-jet powerheads, approx 920
gph.
Livestock: 1 blue tang, 1 royal Gramma, 1 lawnmower blenny, 1 six line wrasse, 1
citron goby, 3 blue Chromis, 1 cinnamon clown, 15-20 Turbo snails, 10 Nassarius
snails, 20 Astrea snails, 25 various dwarf hermit crabs, 2 blue tuxedo urchins,
2 Mithrax crabs, 5-10 Cerith snails, 2 brain corals, 1 Favites, 1 Blastomussa, 1
Montipora (also turned brown), 1 Acropora, 1 yellow Porites. The Acropora and
the Montipora are both near the top of the tank, top 10".
Water Parameters: PH 8.3 1:30pm, Temp 80, Amm 0, Trites 0, Trates 0, Phosphates
0, Alk 8.4-9.2 DKH, Calc 375, SG 1.025.
I use RO/DI water for top off and water changes. I top off with one gallon
every night. I change about 5 gallons per week. I use
Kalkwasser, turbo
calcium, and Warner Marine's two part A and B. I also started adding this week
Kent's Essential Elements (which I was told I should be adding every
week). <Your levels look great but let me ask? are you having any ph
fluctuation? Also, how long after you got the corals did they turn color? How
long had you had them? Do you have any idea if they are wild corals? Often wild
corals turn colors but will often regain color after they adjust to the
tank. Wild Acroporas will often change as part of their adjustment. See what I
mean by it could be a lot of things?>
Please let me know what you think may be causing these corals to turn brown. I
have also read "high nutrients" can cause this browning. What nutrients??
<Phosphates can be a problem but generally high nutrients are what they call the
"dirty tank" which is often lots of algae, plankton, etc.> Where are they
coming from? How can I test for them? If I was overfeeding wouldn't I see a
rise in nitrates and phosphates? I am just completely confused and my head is
spinning with what everybody has been telling me, please set me straight. <No
worries Jen, I think the most confusing part is that Acroporas can change
because of many things and the biggest thing is just to go down the list one
thing at a time to try to isolate what did it. Don't worry we can help
you.> Thank You, Jen Marshall
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