Re: Fiji Biotope - 01/11/07
Hello again.
<<Greetings>>
Just a quick question.
<<Sure>>
Are the Haliptilon species of kelp found where BTAs are?
<<Hmm yes, a Rhodophyte I believe...would likely be found on brightly lit reef
slopes, just as bubble-tip anemones are found>>
Would this algae be something good to keep in large numbers in the display? http://liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?pCatId=664
<<Could be, yes...depending on your sense of aesthetics. EricR>>
Lighting For Anemones - 2/21/2006
I want to keep a Bubble Tip anemone down the road, but would like to invest
in the lighting now. I was looking at getting a power compact system with 4 55
watt bulbs (2 10 k ultra daylight and 2 ultra actinic blue) for a total of 220
watts of light. The Bulbs would be mounted probably no more then an inch or so
above the water level. I have a 55 gallon aquarium. Do you think that this
would be a sufficient amount of lighting for the Bubble Tip anemone or should I
invest my money in something else?
Thanks,
Ryan
Madison/Milwaukee, WI
<Well, Ryan, although I'm a big fan of power compact lighting, I think that for
better long-term success with anemones, you'd be better served by investing in
metal halide lighting. Sure, you could keep many corals under low-mounted PC's;
and in fact, I've seen people successfully keep anemones under PC's, I'd still
recommend halides (preferably the double-ended variety) for more flexibility.
Conventional reef-keeping wisdom suggests that you could compensate for less
intense lighting with more feeding, I'd be inclined to stick with the halides
for the intensity and "bang-for-the-buck" that they provide. Hope this helps!
Regards, Scott F.>
Bubble tip anemone what? System - 1/30/2006
I have a 75 gallon tank with 2 150 watt 10,000K metal halides and 2 130 watt
actinics with the actinics running 11hrs per day and the halides on for 9.
Current Outer Orbit. The bubble tip looks excellent at night when the lights are
turned off and
the moon lights are on, but as soon as the lights come on he shrivels up as
though it's night?
I purchased him a week ago and he took shrimp at night 4 days in. He seems to be
exactly backwards with his behavior.
Also he will not attach to anything and seems happy enough on his side. His
color remains excellent and his inflation-deflation is fine, just backwards.
Tank parameters are 0 across the board. PH is 8.3. He seems happiest at the
least current movement spot in the tank, otherwise
he just drifts with the current and ends up wherever till I pick him back up and
put him someplace stable for him.
Not a joke. <I'm guessing the shop where you bought the anemone doesn't use
halide lighting over the tank so the anemone probably went into photo
shock. I'd shut the lamp off that is nearest the anemone (wherever he is) and
leave the other halide on. Reduce the time of the other halide to three hours,
gradually increasing by about 30 minutes per day until you reach your
photoperiod of 9 hours. If the anemone gets anchored, looks good etc, then do
the same with the other halide. The drifting isn't unusual, once it finds a
place it likes, will likely anchor itself. Do search the Wet Web, keyword
anemones and further educate yourself on keeping anemones. James (Salty Dog)>
any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks <You're welcome>
Randy
Hyposalinity in a tank with a BTA 1/27/06
Hello Crew!
<Garen>
I have small cowfish and blue throat trigger with a severe case of ich. I
wanted to try hyposalinity treatment on the display tank because I don't
have a hospital tank that could hold the trigger and cow (only 10
gallons). The problem lies in that there is a maroon clown with his BTA in
the tank. I would like to know what the lowest salinity that the BTA could
tolerate and for what amount of time?
<I would not fool with spg here and the anemone>
Also, I would like treat with copper on these two fish because I don't want
to risk losing them due to the advanced stages of ich and the minimal
success rate of hypo treat.
<Good>
I think that the blue throat can tolerate normal amounts of the copper
(please tell me if there is anything special about treating the trigger vs.
other "hardy" fish) and that the longhorn cowfish can only tolerate very
small amounts copper. So it appears that I would have to buy another 10 gal
treatment tank and treat them with different levels of copper in separate
treatment tanks. I have looked at the Boxfish FAQs and Boxfish Disease FAQs
and have seen that Mr. Fenner has said that small amounts of copper can be
used on the cowfish but I can't find how much copper to use in any of the
FAQs for the cowfish.
<The lower limits of efficacy: 0.15 to 0.20 free cupric ion ppm>
I am desperate here and need the suggested amount of copper for treating a
cowfish, along with the appropriate temperature, duration of treatment, and
salinity level for his treatment.
<Upper 70's F. for most species, two weeks, and 1.018>
A little off topic here, but could you guys tell me (or direct me with a
link) how to get lionfish/scorpionfish to eat prepared foods. I can't get
my Cheekspot scorpionfish, diabolus, and antennata lionfish to eat prepared
foods but strangely my fuzzy dwarf lion will only eat pellets. Strange
situation, one extreme to the other within the Scorpaenidae family. I'm
confused, you?
<All the ding dang time. The feeding is a matter of "practice" with meaty
food items, a "stick" to attach same to and dangle in front of the fish. Bob
Fenner>
Thanx again,
Garen Wright
BTA Treatment
Hi, <Hello Fawn>
I have searched your site for information on how to treat an anemone that
has been damaged. I noticed my water was really murky this morning and in
searching for the reason, found my BTA had been partially sucked into the
power head. I have a sponge filter that fits over the intake to avoid
problems like this. However, is somehow got pulled off.
The BTA has a rip from it's mouth out through the side. The foot appears
intact. This is a beautiful anemone that I have had for quite a while.
Please advise me regarding what I can and should do.
I have done a partial water change and removed the pieces of the anemone
that I can find. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks. <Fawn, for the best interest of the rest of the tank inhabitants, do
give the anemone it's last water change (down the toilet). There is nothing you
can do to reverse the damage. In leaving the anemone in the tank it will soon
die and foul the whole system and more than likely wipe out the remaining
inhabitants. James (Salty Dog)>
Regards,
Fawn Curtis
Re: BTA - 01/09/2006
Thanks for the quick reply. <You're welcome> Lights are on about 10 hours
per day and I am
dosing a product called Purple UP every week. And yes I am very consistent
on my water changes. <Great. One other thing I overlooked is that your 29 is not
a good tank for anemones. Water parameters can change too fast in smaller
systems. Much better off with a minimum of 55 gallons and have a more stable
environment as anemones are sensitive to changes in water parameters. I know
you are setting up a 55 as we speak (based on original email) so the sooner the
better but no guarantee your ailing anemone will survive. Do search the Wet Web
Media, keyword "anemones" and learn more about these animals. James (Salty
Dog)>
Percula Clowns
Good Afternoon (its 14:45 in the UK)
I have had a pair of percula clowns as the only fish in a 30G tank for
a little over two years. I upgraded my lighting just recently in an
attempt to house a BTA anemone I now have 4 X 55 Watt T5 (PC's) I got
the anemone Saturday and at first the clown pay little attention to the
anemone now the male swims around and around it just skimming the
tentacles with his tail?? Is he acclimatizing to the anemone and is it
likely he will start to host soon? <The clown should host soon unless they are
tank raised.> Is there any thing you would recommend to encourage this
symbiosis? <Nature will take its course. Nothing you can do to speed it up.>
It would be really great if he did, but I love all the animals in the
tank and its not the end of the world if they don't. <I hear you. James (Salty
Dog)>
Cheers Guys (and Girls)
Re: Percula Clowns 12/20/2005
Thanks James, while on the subject is my lighting setup ok for the BTA.
<Your lighting is just fine.>
He is rather large about 8" across and is feeding well I fed him a large
piece of squid yesterday, I am thinking of a water change today is it
too soon will it unsettle him? <You could do a 10% with no problems.>
Thanks Again <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Dan
BTA color 12-14-05
Your guys' website has been a huge part in how well my aquarium has done
over the past year. Thank you guys so much.
<Always glad to help.>
I recently purchased a green
BTA which is doing great under 130 watts of light. I have been trying to
find out if there is anything I can do to brighten up his color a little
more than it is. He is mostly a dull green/brown with very green tips. He
looks spectacular under actinic and moonlights, but looks a little on the
bland side under daylight.
<You will often see a washing out of color with full spectrum lighting.>
If there are any suggestions they would greatly
appreciated. I'm considering upgrading to the Coralife 280 watt halide
AquaLight, if you think more light would help his color.
<It is not the quantity of light that produces color, but the quality. You will
want to look into changing your lighting spectrum to more of a 20K or actinic
style.>
Have seen this
stuff called Black Powder by Marc Weiss' supplements. I don't know if
you've heard anything or seen results from it. It says it can greatly
increase color and growth, but many forums I've seen say his supplements are
mostly sugar and don't do much over a longer period of time.
<From my experience with that product I would have to agree that it is not worth
the time or money. You would be better served to use that money toward more
water changes, frequent carbon changes, and switching your light spectrum to the
more blue that you are wanting. Travis>
Thanks again
for all of your help.
Bubble Tip Anemone and Water problems 12/8/05
Hi. I am having a few problems with my tank, one dealing with my Anemone and one dealing with using marine builder to improve my water quality.
Bubble Tip Anemone: About a month and a half ago I bought a very young BTA that had recently split from the pet store owner's Anemone. Within fifteen minutes of being placed in it's new home, it had found a crevice and happily found itself a new spot. Once a week I fed it a small chunk of frozen shrimp, which it accepted with no problem. It grew to about 3 inches, and looked very healthy until recently.
It started by shrinking a bit on one side and retracting all of it's tentacles on that side, which made them look like very small nubs. The opposite side still had it's
tentacles out and inflated. A few days later, the position of the knobby tentacles switched to the other side. I went to my local fish store and they assured me that the Anemone was splitting, but now I'm not so sure.
The Anemone has now shrunk dramatically and it's tentacles are not present at all. There are a few nubs around the mouth and they are actually a purple color now. During the day the Anemone is closed up fairly tight, and at night it opens but it looks as if it is pinched horizontally right below the mouth, causing the base to bow out a bit. It has looked like this for almost two weeks now, should I be worried or is it really just taking a long time to split?
<It is possible that it is splitting, but it could also be responding to some kind of stress. If you have not changed the lighting or current recently, I would suspect water quality. A couple of decent size water changes (25% or so) never hurts, and may help.>
Marine Builder: My kH and is only 6, and the pH stays at a constant 8.0. I am trying to get my pulsing xenias to pulse again, so I need to bring my pH to a steady 8.3. After doing some research on your site, I think the problem lies in my top off water. I did not know that the RO/DI water needed to be prepared in a certain way before using (buffered, etc.) I'm having to add about half a gallon every two to three days, and have been doing this for about seven to eight months.
<Adding buffers to top-off water can be helpful, but is not necessary. In my experience, alkalinity is more important than pH when it comes to xenia pulsing. I would suggest using double (or up to four times) doses of a good quality buffer daily until you get your dKh in the 10 range. You don't mention what your
calcium level is, but beware that aggressively raising the alkalinity will cause the calcium to fall, so monitor both closely. If your calcium is low to begin with, I would use a two-part additive like B-Ionic or C-Balance to raise both Ca and Alk in balance.>
I know now that I need to add marine builder and marine buffer to my top off water. My question is, If I use both of these additives in my top off water and continue to use the water as I normally do, will it cause problems in the tank? If so, what can I do to get the kH and pH where it needs to be.
<I am not familiar with these specific products, but would not suggest mixing them, as this may cause some of the ingredients to precipitate. No one specific product is necessary and they don't have to be added to top of water. They just have to get into the tank somehow. Adding calcium and alkalinity in a balance
fashion is necessary. This can be accomplished with Kalkwasser, two-part additive systems or
separate buffers and calcium products.>
Sorry if both questions were a bit too wordy. Thank you very much for your help and for your website. It has come in handy for many problems that I have come across as a beginner and I'm sure it will help me in many more ways in the future.
<Glad you have benefited from the site. Hope this helps. Best regards.
AdamC.>
BTA (E. quadricolor) Care 11/28/05
Hi I have a 45 gallon Odyssea B series. On this tank everything is built in as for light its about 1 inch off the surface of the water but it is
in a plastic case it houses two 65w pc bulbs one actinic blue and one 7500 daylight bulb would this be enough light for a
BTA anemone if placed high in the aquarium.
<Honestly in my opinion this lighting is not intense enough for an E. quadricolor
(BTA) even if it were placed high in the tank. Furthermore there is no guarantee
it would stay at the top in the tank as anemones move as they please. You can read up more on their care at WWM re:
Bubble Tip Anemone Care.>
Thanks
--Sbatiste
<Welcome, Adam J.>
BTA (E. quadricolor) Lighting is Fine, Tank Much Too Small! -
10/24/05
I have a 18 gallon nano reef tank that is 10 inches wide, 20 inches deep, 20
inches long. I have a 96 watt Coralife power compact, 50-50. Is that bright enough
to keep a BTA?
<The lighting is sufficient though there are a few things you need to keep in mind. Anemones need very stable environments and this volume of water will be difficult to keep stable, keep up on
regular water changes and be sure to have a protein skimmer. The next thing is other
sessile inverts, with an anemone in this size tank you will not be able to have any other sessile inverts because the anemone will eventually sting them. Please do more research re: WWM BTA FAQ's, Adam J.>
BTA Anemone System 9/26/05
Hi WWM Crew,
I was planning on setting up a 20-30 gallon BTA Anemone tank but don't any idea
what I need so my question how would you suggest i set this tank up. <Steve, I
would suggest you not set up a BTA system in a 20/30 gallon tank. Tank volume
is too small to have a shot at successfully keeping these for any length of
time. That and the fact if one should die unnoticed, the tank will foul
overnight killing any other inhabitants you may have with them. For BTA's, I
would go no lower than a 55 gallon. Check out our anemone info on the Wet Web,
plenty there to read. James (Salty Dog)>
BTA Anenomes systems 9/21/05
<Hi Adam J here tonight>
Would a BTA survive in a regular 60-gallon aquarium with 260 watts of PC
lighting?
<Possibly I would just be sure to keep up on the following: Anemones do
appreciate intense lighting and while PC’s can provide that you need to change
the bulbs every 6 to 9 months. I would also use low temperature bulbs (6500K to
10000K). Anemones also appreciate good water quality, so I would religiously
perform water changes of at least 10% per week. Weekly target feedings of meaty
fare from a marine origin are recommended as well. For more information see the
WWM FAQ’s
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemones.htm,
Adam J>
BTA and Lighting 8/9/05
Hi there, I was wondering what you would recommend
lighting wise for a BTA in a 55 gallon tank (18 in
deep) because I know how you can't always go by a watt
per gallon method. I had tried to find an answer on
your web site and found one question that was close to
mine. You had recommended 4x96 watt PC Lighting for
the BTA in a 55 gallon tank, but my question was about
the Orbit fixture made by Current. I was wondering if
you had any thoughts on this fixture in comparison to
other PC's. I have read places that this fixture
gives off much more light when compared to other
lighting fixtures. If this is true I was wondering if
you thought I could use the 4x65 watt Orbit fixture or
do you still recommend getting the 4x96 watt fixture.
Thanks for all of your help.
Dan
<Of these choices, I would go with the four 96 watters. Bob Fenner>
Troubles with a BTA Purchased For a Clownfish (7/24/05)
Hello, <Hi. Steve Allen with you this evening.>
I was feeling bad for my clown fish, because at night he would lay on my trach
brain, so I went out and bought an anemone. <This is not a good reason to buy an
anemone. Clowns do not need anemones or any other "host" to thrive, and there is
nothing wrong with it "hosting" on the brain as long as it does no damage.> I
ended up buying a bubble tip, because I was concerned about it moving around the
tank. <BTAs are a bit easier than other anemones, all of which are difficult to
keep.> I put it in the tank and for the first couple of days it was staying put,
but now it is starting to move, not much, but enough that it is scaring me a
little. <They move when they can't find a spot that is to their liking.> Is
there anything you can recommend to keep him put, I was told to feed it, and
that would most likely keep it there, is that true? <Not always. All anemones
need a lot of light, and will move around trying to find the right amount of
light and the right current. They also need exceptional water quality. Read
about their needs on WWM. Also, there were good anemone articles in Tropical
Fish Hobbyist and Aquarium Fish Magazine within the past year or so--check at
your local library.> Also, I was wondering you're opinion on buying corals off
the internet. Do you recommend buying from a local store or do you prefer
internet ordering? I'm on the fence, I like to see the item in person, but I
also like the selection online. What do you think? <Personally, I have done
both and been satisfied. If you have a good LFS that sells healthy corals and
doesn't sell impossible ones like Goniopora, consider supporting them. Reputable
online vendors are good sources too. If you go to the Local/Internet Stores
section of our Chat Forum, you can gather opinions from people who have shopped
varians retailers.> Thank you so much..... <You're welcome. I hope this helps.>
Coloured Bulb Anemone in sump? 7/19/05
Thanks for the answers to my previous questions. Your site is a
wonderful resource.
I have a 90 gallon reef system with 8" fine aragonite, lots of live
rock, and coral, both hard and soft. It is illuminated by 390w VHO. The
main pump's rating is 1500 GPH with the current head loss and there are
also several power heads on a wave maker for additional movement.
Recently I added a 25 gallon refugium which has 5" of aragonite sand,
small bits of live rock and macroalgae and is illuminated by 55 watts
of 9800k VHO on an opposite daylight schedule. It is fed by about 150
GPH and also has two small moving power heads. The intent of this
refugium was nutrient export, pH stabilization, and food production for
my Mandarin (there are lots of "bugs" in the main tank and the Mandarin
is quite plump but I wanted to make sure there was a constant brood of
food without predation). All seems to be working well.
My question is about my Coloured Bulb Anemone.
<Entacmaea quadricolor likely>
I have read much about
how these animals should not be mixed with corals and until recently the
anemone had been content in one place so there had not been a threat of
stinging others. Now that it is roaming, I want to move it and the crab,
which it has hosted for 6 months, to either the new refugium or the
sump. Part of the sump, which measures about 15" x 12" and is 16" deep
(thought the water surface is at the 12" mark), has large pieces of live
rock, a serpent star, some snails, a royal purple urchin and a very
strange hairy crab with small claws which came with the rock. It has 36
watts of power compact lighting, 18w actinic and 18w 10000k, which has
produced a great deal of coralline algae on the rocks and glass and has
supported the growth of a small tuft of turtle weed.
Where should I move the partnership?
<Mmm, best to another system... this sump area lacks sufficient illumination...
and the other crab, urchin may be trouble>
I would prefer it in the refugium
because it is on display. I am especially concerned about the animals
lighting needs.
<If you do move it, I would add more (double, triple) the amount of "white"
light... keep a diligent eye on all life there. Bob Fenner>
Thanks so much,
Pete
Anemone Precaution 7.15.05
Hello guys...quick lighting question...and I know you get a lot of them. I have a 90 gal.65 lbs LR (2) 65 watt PC bulbs and 2 actinic 40 watt halogen
bulbs. Is this light adequate for a small bubble anemone?
<Hi Paul. Yes, as long as the oxygen levels are great and the anemone is within
12 inches of the bulb. Circulation plays a big part in their health as well- So
take special care to endure that the water circulates nutrients TO the anemone,
not the alternative. Good luck, Ryan>
Thanks
Paul
My Poor BTA
Hi guys thanks for your help. So my BTA has been in my tank for about 3
weeks now and been through a bit of a lot. My girlfriend thought it would
be nice to come home with a maroon clown and at first the two were great
together then I had to add something to rid the tank of red slime I'm
thinking the BTA didn't like this and it shrunk and deflated and the clown
didn't like this at all and was batting at the BTA so it continued to
shrink. I removed the clown, did h2o change and even dimmed the lights for
the remainder of the day and the BTA came back bigger and stronger than it
was before. The next day it started to move again I thought this was great
till the next morning I found my BTA completely sucked into my power head
the only thing showing was the foot. I turned off the power head and slowly
and easily removed the BTA from the power head. The poor thing looked
horrible as you can imagine. To my disbelief when I returned home from work
that night it had come back to about 90% and the next day it was perfect
again and that night it started moving again and I watched it almost all
night ZZZZZZ. when I woke up it was half in the power head again since I
turned the power heads upside-down so it could not be sucked in. They are
also near the top of the tank. Some how the BTA seems to be doing fine a
few days after this. My question is how do I stop that from happening and
is there a better way to move the h2o in my tank? <Hagen makes a "Quick
Filter" that adapts to power heads. It's basically a plastic screen with a
foam insert. It spreads the suction over a wider area, and the foam
prevents tentacles from being sucked in. This is a common problem with
anemones. Many anemones have been lost this way. James (Salty Dog)> Thanks
guys
Rock hanging bubble tip anemone
Hey guys,
<Yo!>
Been reading a hell of a lot of the forums, questions and answers in here ,
but got one that's got me stumped!
My tank has been up and running since last October, (nine months).
Running:
300 litre including small sump.
Deltec 1250 turbo skimmer
Small refugium growing copious amounts of sawtooth Caulerpa, (Acts like a
fuge and a scrubber in one, sort of!)
(Works well anyway).
Ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 2.5 (High fish load.....Yeah I know!!!!)
<?>
Mg 1300
Ca 450-500
<A bit high...>
Heaps of coralline algae.
Heaps of really healthy fish, softies and Acropora with some colouring up
very well.
I'm not using wet/dry system, just lots of base rock and fuge.
Total tank turnover around 30 times an hour.
Its like a tornado in there!
My tank looks great and for its age I feel is doing better than average.
(Have had comments).
Even found a rock boring Urchin the other week....ROCK ON!!
<Or in!>
THE PROBLEM:
1 x rock hanging purple bubble tip anemone hanging upside down.
usually comes out and wraps itself upwards onto a rock face and basks for
the entirety of the photoperiod and so on.
For the last 10 or so days he is shrinking into a pathetic little deflated
sad mess and he is very difficult to reach as he is under the rock face.
EVERYTHING in the tank is extremely healthy and doing great except this one.
One day he is a quarter inflated and the next nothing. Have tried feeding
him with frozen brine shrimp, which i thought assisted, but only lasted a
day. do you think he could be starving?
<Maybe>
The Tomato doesn't feed him, he is too damn greedy! I usually don't feed my
Anemone's but the LTA is in the line of sight for falling food when I do
feed the fish, so he generally gets a bit. The other one would not get
hardly any.
He originally came from another tank which the original one had split. This
was the SPLITEE if you like!
<Nice term!>
Been in my tank for about 4 months.
Any advice would be great, I Would like to save him if possible, but not too
worried as I have an extremely large LTA that couldn't be any healthier if
it tried!
Sorry to prattle on......Can supply pics if needed.
Kind regards and keep up the good advice!
Craig
New Zealand
<Will endeavour to do so. This anemone might be in an inopportune
location... too much circulation, not enough light... not a spot conducive
to regular food offering (thrice weekly if it were up to me). Though I/we
rarely suggest so, you might move it (and its rock?) to a lower, more calm
setting... someplace where you can purposely stick feed it. Bob Fenner>
Re: Rock hanging bubble tip anemone
Thanks, I will try to feed the poor thing a bit more with a bent stick!
Cheers
Craig
<Ah, good. We'll see if this change makes a/the difference. Bob Fenner>
Lighting for BTA 4/28/05
Dear Mr. Fenner, I just recently purchased a new 48” compact light 2 x 65w Actinic and 2 x 65w 10,000k. I have a 75 gallon tank 48L x 18W x 20D. I have 60 lbs of live sand and 50 lbs of live rock. I have read most of your articles about Bubble Tips and some answers are close to what I need so I want to be sure. Will the light that I purchased be enough for a Bubble Tip Anemone to survive?
<It is enough for the anemone to survive, but it may not maintain it's bright color. Also, as always, be sure to feed a marble sized piece of meaty seafood about once a week.>
I have another 48” fluorescent fixture that I can put on it but it would only add 80 more watts. What would you recommend?
<I would suggest using the additional light as long as heat does not become a problem.>
My next question is how long should the lights stay on. Currently I leave the 10,000k with the Actinic on during the day and just the Actinic on at night? Is this correct or should I turn the lights completely on and off for day and night?
<Fish and corals need a period of darkness. A total photoperiod of about 12 hours is usually good. You can use multiple timers to stagger the time that different lights come on and off, but you should have at least 10 hours when all of the lights are off (some background room lights are OK.)>
My fiancée and I are really enjoying the tank and all of the creatures that seem to be growing out of the live rock. Anemones would really complete the tank. Your site is the most informational I have found yet.
Thanks for all of your efforts and advice. Grant Citron Lafayette, LA
<Thanks and Best Regards. AdamC.>
BTA Lighting
Hi, I have a 170 gal marine tank which is 5ft L by 26inch deep and was wondering is 400watts enough lighting (2x 150
watt halides and 2 x 48watt daylights) for a BTA and most corals?
<The lighting set up you describe sounds perfectly adequate to keep a BTA and pretty much any photosynthetic coral. Check out the following link for more information on Bubble Tipped Anemones and their care (including lighting requirements)
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemones.htm.
Good luck, Mike G.>
BTA all balled up
Good afternoon,
<Hi there>
Yesterday, I did an extensive search through the bubble tip anemones, only to not find exactly what
I was looking for. Hopefully someone out there could shed some light on the subject, or at least put me at ease.
Here goes:
First the basic info -
37 gallon
Fish: (2) ocellaris clowns, (1) 3 stripe (which will be on his way out soon enough), and a lawnmower blenny.
Inverts: (1) peppermint shrimp, (1) emerald crab, various red & blue leg hermits, Mexican turbo snails,
Astrea, Cerith and Nassarius snails.
Corals: a few yellow polyps, brown buttons, white and green striped
Palythoa, various colored
zoanthids, Ricordea, and mushrooms.
Lighting: (3) 65 watt pc lighting (12 hrs on, 12 off)
Filtration: (1) AquaClear 50 - sponge cleaned weekly, and carbon replaced every single month without exception.
Skimmer: Excalibur hang-on
Water movement: (1) Maxijet 1200, and the outputs from the skimmer (powered by a
Rio 800) and the AquaClear keep things moving pretty good - I'm looking to add another
Maxijet in the near future.
All together, probably 60 lbs live rock, and a shallow sand bed.
my BTA has been in the tank for almost a month, and the tank itself went through a cycle that seemed like no other! It has been stable for about the last 6 to 7 months. The tank is fed once a day with a mixture of
Nori, raw shrimp, freeze dried brine, and formula 1 flake, (all soaked in
Selcon), along with DT's phyto every other day. over the past weekend, I decided to add about another 10 lbs of base rock.
<This is a small tank/volume, a bunch of life to be moving about, adding so much in such a short time span...>
Of course when adding the rock, other things had to be moved around and re-stacked.
I also looked at it as re-arranging things a bit to break up territorial issues between my clowns and my 3-stripe.
<This aggression will only get worse in time...>
Anyway, after adding the new base rock, and doing some scraping and cleaning, and so forth,
I did my weekly water change. I specifically waited to the very end to do the water change.
The rock my BTA attached itself to happens to be the back of the rock with all my
Palythoa and zoanthids.
<Oh oh...>
I had to move this rock up a little, and off to the side a little. The new location appears to have similar water movement, but it happens to be exposed more to the light.
I specifically did not try to move the anemone itself, as I didn't want to tear it or stress it any further than what
I had to.
<Good>
After the whole cloud of crap finally started to settle / filter out, I cleaned the sponge in the filter to remove excess garbage, and changed my carbon.
All water parameters appear to be in good standing: pH - 8.2- 8.3, alk - normal
(Red Sea "generalized" test), temp 79º - 80º, specific gravity - 1.025, Ca - 460 (a little high), ammonia - 0, nitrites - 0, nitrates - <10.
I don't test for anything else, and rarely test the amount shown here. usually only sg,
pH and alk. Now, the BTA has only opened up maybe halfway, but usually stays tightly balled up (looks like a purplish red onion).
It still has all of its coloration (purple- maroonish colored base, very green tentacles with pink tips).
When it is partly open, the mouth looks to be very tight, and I can't see any signs of decomposing.
It's not expelling any waste that I can see. I know that they will move wherever they want to go when they want to, but this is the second day, and it appears that it hasn't moved an inch.
Hopefully I'm right and everything will be ok within a couple of days. Should I attempt to feed it, or should
I wait until it is fully open?
<I'd definitely wait>
Right now, my intentions are to just leave it alone. Any comments, suggestions, constructive criticisms?
Hopefully I'm over-reacting. Sorry for the long winded message, but I wanted to put as much info out there as possible.
Thanks.
<IMO you are not over-reacting... There is a potential disaster brewing here... with the small volume, so much chemical change going on and trying to keep this anemone in the presence of the zoanthids... Please read re these animals:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/index.htm
particularly their chemical incompatibility, danger to humans... In this tiny tank you will either have to be super-diligent in making water changes, checks on quality, use of chemical filtrants... perhaps add volume, filtration, other mediating influences through the addition of a refugium... or get rid of the zoanthids... possibly the anemone in time. Small volumes are just inherently too unstable... to house mixed cnidarian populations, particularly some groups. Bob Fenner>
Bubble Tip Anemone - Lighting & Moving
Hello,
<Hi there>
I have a bubble tip anemone in my 55 gallon tank with 260 watts of lighting. I want to transfer the anemone into a fish only tank. The only
problem is I am worried about the lighting. The tank is 65 gallons. Do I need 250 watts of light to sustain it in that tank? Or could it survive
with about 208 watts of lighting just feeding it more like three times a week or something?
<This should work>
Please get back to me. Also the anemone has a torn pedal foot but can still grip rock and is growing huge. Anyway please get
back to me thanks! You guys are a great help! Saurav
<Do move the anemone underwater... that is, don't lift it into the air, but scoop it up in a large-enough container and move it with water over it. Bob Fenner>
Rose Bulb Anemone Lighting
Hi,
<How goes it? Maddox here tonight>
I have a 44g reef corner tank that is 22" deep. I am thinking about adding a rose bulb anemone, but want to make sure I have enough light for it. My lighting is 230w of power compacts. One double strip is 65w
JBJ and the other double strip is 65w Coralife. Both consist of 10,000k day and actinic
fluorescents. Will this be sufficient light for rose bulb anemone?
<Shouldn't be a problem, but I would keep the anemone in the upper half of the tank>
Thanks Again,
<Anytime>
Roo
<M. Maddox>
Clownfish and Anemone care 2/28/05
Hi, Which Clown has the dark patches on it the Amphiprion ocellaris or the Amphiprion percula?
<The "true" percula clownfish, A. percula, generally has a lot more (wider) black color/bands>
Also what is the minimal lighting requirements for a healthy BTA?
<5 watts per gallon of water at 6500-10k K lamp color over less than 24" of water would be a safe and healthy minimum light scheme for
Entacmaea quadricolor. kindly, Anthony>
Rose Bulb Tip Anemone Lighting Help
Dear WWM Crew,
I hope this email is not a pain and you have the time to answer. I think I¹m OK from browsing your FAQs but wanted to make sure I have sufficient
lighting as I try to take the health and care of my charges seriously. I currently am running a reef tank that is 15²deep
x 17²high x 46²long (I believe it is around 55 gallons, I inherited it from a friend). I had another
friend of mine help set up the tank and lighting but he has since gone AWOL.
What I can tell, I have an Aqualight Retrofit kit with one Hamilton PC
96W 03 Actinic and a Hamilton 10000K Ice White (I believe this to be 96W as well). I recently purchased a Rose Bulb Tip Anemone and he has since
migrated to the top of my aquarium, planting itself 4² from the surface. His bulbs are still intact and he seems ok so far BUT is this really
sufficient lighting? The guys at my LFS insisted that I had sufficient lighting but after reading up a bit online I¹m not so sure anymore. Please
advise. Also, I was thinking of getting a Tridacna clam and was leading towards a Squamosa (less light requirements I believe) but would love to
have a Crocea, is there enough light for either?
<John, you are borderline for lighting with the anemone and it is not enough light for the clam. James (Salty Dog)>
BTA husbandry, sources of enlightenment
Hi guys you have been so helpful in the past and I hate to be a pest. I purchased. A BTA a few weeks ago from my LFS. It was so big and pretty in the tank at the store. When I got it home it stayed that way for a few days and planted its foot on the rock and my 2
Percs took right to it. It stayed in the front of the tank for about 5 days but it pulled it self under the rock. Is this normal?
<Not atypical>
It’s half the size that it was when I got it. The clown fish are still playing in it. I heard that if the anemone was sick they would leave it alone. Is that true?
<Happens>
I haven’t fed it since I’ve had it because I’ve never seen its mouth open.
<Won't necessarily... don't wait for this>
I have some peeled & deveined shrimp brought from the grocery store. Is this what they will eat? Anything else you would recommend feeding?
<Yes... read: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anemonefdgfaqs.htm
and the linked files on BTAs>
What do you mean when you say to soak the food in tank water before feeding?
<Search on WWM re>
I was a little worried about buying another anemone but the guy at the store said that the BT were easier to care for than other anemones.
<Amongst the hardiest, especially the captive produced>
I have tried other with no success. I have a 29 gallon tank that’s been up for over a year.
<This is a dangerously small volume...>
Levels are great, ammonia up a little so I did 15% water change. I have 2 maxi jet 600 power heads, Red Sea Prizm protein skimmer, millennium 3000 hang on filter, and I have an R/O/ DI for water. Lights are Current Fluorescent Compact Dual 50/50 on timer for 10 hours. Is this enough light?
<Please read... http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/index.htm
scroll down to the Actinarians...>
Should I have both bulbs on at the same time? They are 65Watts a piece. I have a 55 gallon tank that’s in the process of cycling. It has a Eheim Pro II canister filter, 2 1200 maxi jet power heads, 1 Zoomed 228 power head, Aqua C Remora skimmer with
Mag drive as your site suggested. My light for this tank is pretty much the same as on the other just a different brand – Coralife compact fluorescent. Will this set up be ok for my anemone? I really want to keep this anemone alive. What do you recommend? Do I need more current? After a few days in the front the anemone moved over the rock and to the back of the tank still hiding under some rock. Is that normal? Please help. Any info would be so great.
Heather
<Heather... stop! Read my friend... make up your own mind. Bob Fenner>
Bubble anemone requirements
Hi!
I would like to get a BTA really soon, but I'd like to know if my tank setup
is fine. I have a 30 gal with Prizm protein skimmer, Orbit lights (2x 65
watts PC (1 actinic & 1 white) + 2x 1 watt lunar lights), +/- 26 lbs live
rock (will get more in a few days), good water flow (main filter: RENA
Filstar Xp1).
Water:
- Ammonia: 0
- Nitrites: 0
- Nitrates: 15-20
- Calcium: 400-420
- pH: 8.2-8.3
- Temp.: 79F
Lighting: actinic: 7am to 7pm -- white: 8am to 6pm
water change: +/- 7% every week
1 ocellaris clown, 1 firefish goby, 1 lawnmower blenny, 1 chalk Basslet, 1
green Chromis, 1 brittle star, 1 long spined urchin, 7 hermit and 2 green
emerald crabs, 2 shrimps (cleaner & peppermint), snails...
3 pulsing Xenia branches (almost 4), 2 Ricordea mushrooms (still small and
not dividing), 1 candycane, more LPS to come...
So, do you think that with this setup a BTA will do fine? If not, what do I
have to change? I tried to find out information on the specific needs of the
BTA but all I got is general information. Thank you very much, and I'm sorry
for my bad English.
Ivan
<Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/index.htm
re Anemones, BTA's... Bob Fenner>
Green bubble tipped anemone growth
Howdy and seasons greetings to y’all, <Thanks, you too!>
First of all let me thank you for the site. I
have learned so much from it. It’s always the first
place I look when I have a question. <No problem, I'm glad to help out around
here. Loads of info, I read the archives frequently myself>
On to my issues.
I have a green bubble tipped anemone that was one of
the early purchases once my tank was ready to add live
stock. <Nice, anemones are awesome> It has been up since The first of July. I
have a 75 gallon tank with about 100 #s of live rock
and about 140 #s of live sand. I have a separate sump,
with a Euroreef C-6 protein skimmer, which holds
between 15 and 20 gallons. The sump flows into a
refugium with macro algae, live rock and live sand
that is also between 15 and 20 gallons. I have a U.V
sterilizer I run about once a month or so about a week
at a time. (I mainly got it because of an ick outbreak
I had). My lighting is 6 VHO 46.5” bulbs 3 actinic
blue and 3 actinic white. They come on and go off in
pairs throughout the day about 9 hours total anymore
and the algae goes nuts. <Might want to control those organics better, then -
light should not create algae> First 2 blue then a blue and
white then the last 2 whites and they go off in the
reverse order. (to kind of simulate the day) My water
has always been good with the exception of my nitrates
which I have been fighting recently it stays around 15
(it has been higher but not by much and not now that I
am really watching it) I have added a bag of nitrate
sponge rocks to try to help along with sizeable water
changes 4 days in a row. I normally do about 10
gallons a week. <Hmm...do you have a DSB? Skim well? Might want to up the
water change %, chemical absorbers for nitrate are just temporary fixes for a
larger problem> Okay now for my question. My anemone
does not seem to grow. There are days it seems big and
days it is very compact. I understand it is easy to
confuse its stretching for growth. Some days it looks
great other days just okay. It never looks like the
melting ice cream cone and its color has not been
bleached. It's still caramel with the green tips. I
feed it every other day either Mysis shrimp or
plankton after feeding my fish and shrimp because they
tend to steal its food if I try to feed it first. I
think it’s being fed enough from what I have read but
I see no significant growth. (arrrgh!) How big should
these get and how fast should they grow? When I
purchased it I purchased the 2 black and white clowns
that were hosting it at the time and once being
introduced into the tank, want nothing to do with it.
Is this normal? The anemone was in the same spot
forever then when I noticed my nitrate issue it was
moving around but has now settled down again. I know
this may sound confusing but if you can decipher
through it any help would be greatly appreciated!
<Take out an actinic bulb for another daylight, firstly. Secondly, how deep in
the water is it? Does it receive decent flow? Make certain it gets fed a
couple of times a week, as well. If need be, shoo everything away until it's
fully ingested the food. This should get the little guy growing...I fed mine 3
times a week and it doubled in size in a few months. Remember to feed very
small (1\4") bits>
Thanks…Butch <Good luck! M. Maddox>
Keeping a bulb anemone with VHO lighting... will it work?
Hello, <How goes it, Michael here today...and no tests (in school) for a week!>
I have a 75 gallon reef (18” deep), that’s approx 3 months old, and doing very
well. <Glad to hear it> Water levels are all in the ideal range <Ideal being pH
of ~8.3, 0 ammonia, 0 nitrites, and less than 5 ppm nitrates, I hope>, and the
coralline algae growth is phenomenal. <Excellent. My tank is fried with light
to the point where mine will only grow in the shadows> I have not added any
corals yet, but I have some zoanthids and Palythoa that have sprung from my live
rock. <Cool> The tank also houses 8 fish (all small reef safe species).
I have the ballast capacity and space in my hood to run up to eight 46 ½” VHO
lamps. Right now I have four 36” VHO URI super actinics, and four 46 ½” URI
actinic whites. The tubes are 2 inches above the water surface, and 14 inches
above the surface of the sandbed. I run the smaller actinics just to keep my
color rendering from being too blue. <The PAR of actinics is virtually next to
nothing for anemones>
My question stems around my wife’s desire to add an anemone and clown fish to
this tank. <Really neat relationship to observe> With the ability to run up to
880 watts of VHO lighting, I’m assuming I can keep one of the easier species
like a bulb anemone, but I wanted your opinion, as well as a recommendation on
whether I should continue running a 50/50 blend of white to actinic, or should I
cut down the number of actinics and add more full spectrum to make the anemone
(and future SPS additions) happy? Give me a good ratio. Aesthetics take a back
seat to good husbandry, so if I need to be running 100% full spectrum, I'm all
for it, so give me your best recommendation. <If you plan on running eight
bulbs, I would keep only two actinic, and run the rest daylight, preferably from
the 5.5k-10k range for anemones>
Also, is there any real benefit for anemones and SPS to switching the full
spectrum lamps to 10K Aquasuns, instead of the 12K actinic whites? <What most
people don't as anything over 10k is going to give you slower growth rates,
because the PAR is lower than bulbs from 5.5k-10k range. The sun puts out 5.5k
light, so that is what most animals will do well\best at. This doesn't mean
that other temperatures can't be used, it just means the growth rates won't be
as good. As I stated, I recommend between 5.5k and 10k for anemones. SPS will
do fine all the way to 20k. If you do try your hand at some SPS, be sure to
place them high up in the aquarium. You may have a lot of wattage, but the
water penetration of fluorescents is still rather weak>
Thanks you for a great forum, and for the advice, <Anytime, glad to help out
here>
Robert Moore <M. Maddox>
Rose bulb anemone
I have had a rose bulb anemone for about 2 months now in my 15 gallon eclipse. I
have taken out the light that was in the hood and replaced it with an 18 inch 96
watt compact fluorescent lamp. I have the original eclipse pump and an extra
one for more current. I keep the light on for 10 hours and feed it once a day
with about four frozen krill. <Might want to increase the photoperiod by an
hour or so. Also, make sure not to feed the anemone large chunks, mince them
into pieces about 1\4th inch in size> Over the last two months my anemone has
lost its bubble tips and they have become long and I think that it is not as
bright in color as it used to. I have tried increasing the amount of food, but
it stops taking it after four krill. What can I do to return it back to its
health and replenish its bulbs? <Annoyingly enough, this is very common in
BTA's, and there seems to be no apparent reason for why they lose their bubbles
and sometimes change color. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with food,
or lighting. <<Does have a great deal to do with a lack of circulation/current.
RMF>> My water quality seems to have an impact on my BTA's bubbles (when
I do frequent water changes it seems to bubble more) and possibly with water
current. Mine doesn't bubble nearly as much as it used to either,
though. It's not a sign of an unhealthy animal, so I wouldn't worry too much
about it>
Sincerely,
John Sorkness <M. Maddox>
Rose BTA/Nitrate
Hi there Mr. Calfo,
<cheers, my friend>
Harvey & Marilyn here tonight with a question for you. We met recently at the
SCMAS of Orange Co., CA. Our questions pertains to our beautiful Rose
BTA. We've noticed:
1) the BTA releasing brown stringy matter which we assume is waste product and
is normal.
<yes... likely so, no worries>
2) when the anemone stretches and the oral disc is lifted up, we
noticed a lot of dark brown matter throughout the column and the underside of
the oral disc. Is this normal?
<it does not sound suspect or unusual... perhaps from regular feedings - all
good>
We were feeding the anemone on a daily basis little bits of shrimp or squid or
Mysis.
<ah, yes... excellent>
Since the releasing of waste products and all this brown matter in the column
etc., we've cut back on the feeding to 2X a week hoping maybe the anemone can
expel the accumulated waste?
<flawed logic, but still OK if you don't want the anemone to grow as well/fast>
Is this OK or are we starving the poor thing?
<not starving... although I like to see/recommend at least 3 feedings weekly
(small)>
3) The anemone is about 5 - 6" oval shape, with one side resembling a figure 8
and where the indentation is, I'd say about 10 - 12 new tentacles have
sprouted. However, we've noticed 2 of the older tentacles have curled up into a
ball and one seems to have curled around some food, but upon
checking it out, it seems like it might be some mesenterial filaments (white)
and not removable. What is causing the tentacle to shrink and curl?
<the drift from a neighboring coral or anemone upstream from it - a defensive
posture>
Also, some of the other tentacles seems to have gone crooked at the tips?! I
haven't seen any bulbous tips for a while and the tentacles have lengthened to
at least 3 - 4"!
<happens often for reason not clear to us yet. Still not a problem>
Please tell us what's going on with our beautiful Rose BTA. Other than what was
mentioned above, the BTA seems to be doing OK since it grew from an original 2"
to 5-6" now. Thank you for your help in figuring out what's going on with our
anemone.
<sounds like good care and a healthy anemone>
Oh, our tank parameters are: 60 gals with 100 lbs. LR, 70 lbs LS, CA 410, dKH
9.6, Alk 3.43, NO2 0, NO3 15 - 20, NH3 0, SG 1.025. Have been doing weekly
water changes of 15 to 20% to try and knock the NO3 down but it only goes down
to 10, never lower and then back up again - can't seem to figure what's
going on here,
<consider a DSB refugium with a minimum of 4" of oolitic sand>
We are utilizing a CPR Bak Pak 2R skimmer and getting more foam
then before, but can only get l/2 to 3/4 cupful per week. Again, thank you for
your help and advice. Much appreciated.
Harvey & Marilyn
<great to hear from you! best of luck, Anthony>
Lighting a BTA 9/30/04
I am thinking about purchasing a Aqualight Pro 24" lighting fixture (1 -
150watt HQI Metal Halide, 2 - 65watt Actinic PC's and 2 - 1watt Moon Lights) for
my 29 gallon tank (30" X 12" X 18"). I keep an RTBA in the tank along with
several corals. Will this fixture be ok on this tank or will it be too much
light? Thanks for your input. Jeff
<it sounds right on par to me with the oft-tossed about "rule" of 5 watts per
gallon (of daylight) for popular zooxanthellate reef invertebrates. The actinics
don't count in "the rule" BTW... they are mostly aesthetic - enjoy :) Anthony>
Can I keep a BTA in this setup?
I have a 40gal bdr tank (36x18x16) with PC 2x96 light fixture, reef ready
CPR BakPak, appx 60 lbs live rock, 20-30lbs live sand.... and the following
corals: zoanthids - about 14 sets but mostly small frags with 20 or less polyps
colt coral finger leather coral - and 15 of her babies but they are soon to go
to the
pet store or friends, Turbinaria coral, pagoda cup coral, trumpet/candy cane
coral (small frag of about 10 heads),
yellow leather toad (about 3 1/2 inches across and growing), pincushion looking
toad - about 5 inches across, small pink toad - 2 inches, 2 toad frags about an
inch each, large glove polyp rock -growing out of control, small glove polyp
rock, about 30+ mushrooms
daisy polyps (small frag of about 20), brown button polyps - 4 clumps Large Hair
algae rock (for my pods - they love it and it has not spread anywhere else in
tank for over a year), large green star polyp rock - appx 12inches across,
hammer coral frag (2 heads - small)
<Wow! When all of those animals start growing, you are going to have quite a
crowded tank! I would start thinking right now about thinning out!>
As you can imagine it is all growing nicely but soon will be on top of each
other.
<Yup, they will. There is also the issue of chemical competition (allelopathy)
which is likely to become a problem with so many soft corals.>
I love the zoos and my toads.. if I run Purigen will they coexist
together ALONG with a BTA. My friends BTA just split again and she wants to
give me one but I want to make sure it will be ok in my tank. <You have hit the
primary issue on the head. No chemical media will sufficiently control all of
the allelopathic chemicals produced by corals. That is not to say that you will
definitely have problems, but they are likely. I would not consider adding the
anemone unless you significantly reduce the number of corals. In most cases, I
don't recommend that anemones and corals be kept together at all (though most
people do so).>
Are my lights strong enough? my tank is about 14" deep after the sand bed and
it would go near the top.
<Yes, but barely, and only if they are within a few inches of the
water. Regular feeding will help compensate for the lower light.>
Are there any corals it will clash with? I have 1 tomato clown, one citron and
a mandarin (that I order copepods for monthly
and my tank is swarming with amphipods and Mysid however I think they are to
fast for him). anyway, any info regarding the BTA would be appreciated! I would
love to take it but only if it will be ok in my tank. <The anemone will sting
most corals and may suffer from the interaction itself. Slow moving fish like
your citron goby and Mandarin are at significant risk of being eaten by the
anemone. All things considered, I would strongly recommend that you avoid the
anemone. If you really want the anemone, you will have to give up the listed
fish and drastically reduce the number of corals. Best Regards. AdamC.>
Rose Bubble tip Anemone 3/22/04
Dear Sirs: I have researched your site for the answer to this question but
cant find it. I have a 175 gal reef with generally good water parameters. My
Calcium is a little low at 320 but my Alk is at 4mg/l. My pH shifts between 8.2
and 7.8 which I know is a little extreme but I have a calc reactor so this is
problematic, I'm thinking abut dosing with Kalk at night to remedy this. My
nitrates and phosphates are at 0.
<Your pH swings could be remedied by better water movement at the surface of
the water, opening stand doors and other actions to achieve better CO2 out
gassing. I am assuming that your Alk is in mEq/l not mg/l.>
My question regards a rose bubble tip I purchased about a month ago from my
local store. In the store it was shrunk up to about 3 inch in diameter and
displayed bubble tips on the tentacles. It came attached to a rock because I
insisted that they give me the rock also so not to tear the foot in removal. I
placed the rock at the base of the reef with plenty of light ( 2 250 watt 10000
k metal halides and 1 400 watt metal halide in the center of the hood with 2 96
watt actinic power compacts in the front of the hood). the anemone has never
moved from its placement in the front of the tank and has enlarged to an
enormous size at least 10 inches in diameter, the tentacles are very long
without any bubble tips, a few are stringy , some of the tentacles are cork
screw in shape, one tentacle has divisions with offshoots of tentacles.
<Sounds like a happy anemone. No one knows what causes the
anemones to exhibit bubble tips, but it is rare for it to occur more than
occasionally in aquaria. I have had good luck with BTA's staying put,
but they will move if they are unhappy.>
This anemone is in a area with very low flow of current, I feed it 3 times a
week and have recently increased feeding to daily on advice of a local guy who
has had great success growing these out and selling them. The anemone readily
consumes its food and has a maroon pair living happily in it.
<If your goal is to have a very large and/or frequently dividing anemone,
feed away! The anemone will do fine on one feeding a week, it will
just grow more slowly.>
The tentacles move little because of lack of current and I'm wondering if this
is the cause of its limp elongated tentacle appearance ? The animal
seems healthy other than this and I'm afraid to direct more current to it
because I don't want it to leave it's location. I've always been told they will
move if unhappy. What are your thoughts on this limp appearance? Do
you have any suggestions? Thank you so much for your help. Sincerely:
Paul Clampitt
<I would suggest trying to slightly increase the current. The
anemone will appreciate indirect turbulent flow the most. As long as
you avoid any current device blowing directly at the animal, it should stay
put. Best Regards. Adam>
BTA disaster II 3/28/04
Thanks for the quick reply! I will hunt down that article and we
will definitely try to save these pieces. I inherited this tank 7
months ago with the Ocellaris pair and a flat/rock anemone from a co-worker
(they didn't understand that the rock anemone was not a suitable host for the
clownfish). Between the two of us this tank has been up and running
for just over two years, but I did recently (4 months ago) upgrade the lighting
to prepare for getting a BTA. I've got 80 watts of power compact light on the
tank (Custom SeaLife fixture - 40W of 10,000K, 40W UltraActinic and
moonlight).
<nice color scheme...but only the 40 watt 10k K is doing much for the anemone
and as it stands has too much blue in it. May be a moot point here as we are not
trying to get optimal growth of the BTA in such a small tank. It will outgrow
the aquarium sooner rather than later as it is>
I also have two sources of water movement - the Skilter that is used solely for
carbon filtration and an Aquarium System's hang-on-the-tank protein skimmer that
we run continually for movement and turn air flow on for skimming once a week,
24 hours at a time.
<do run the skimmer full time please (for water quality and so as not to
cause stressful fluctuations from the on/off aeration that affects dissolved
oxygen levels. Also, observe if you are getting accumulated detritus in areas
that indicates a need for better water flow>
I don't use any supplements on this small tank, we've found a weekly 20% water
change is all that is needed for maintaining good water quality.
<agreed... and feeding several times weekly in small amounts>
I could put the frags in my main 72 gallon tank, but I'm paranoid about putting
anything into that tank that could move around and sting my corals,
<agreed>
and our quarantine doesn't have strong enough lighting, so I'll try my best with
them in the nano. Thanks again for you help. Cindy
<kindly, Anthony>
Rose Anemone Questions
hello
<Hi! Ryan with you today>
Thanks again for the help. I have a quick couple questions regarding a rose anemone. I have a 70g tall tank (36x18x24) that is doing pretty well. Considering my corals and fish are seemingly happy. I have a
Goniopora flowerpot coral that has recently been hosted by my true percula clownfish (this was extremely
exciting to see btw) through my observation however this has been someone unfavorable to the coral. The polyps close when she goes in there and does her thing (interesting to watch!). So I decided to get a rose anemone from a LFS. I've read and been told these are the hardier of anemones. <Can be, in the right conditions.> Once it was in the tank after
acclimation (I know I know I should have Qt'd but I felt that it was ok to put it in right away). <Good luck with that> Either way once it was in the tank
a couple things happened. First it threw up its food and moved to dif location slightly lower than where I
initially put it. <Not a great sign> It has seemed to settle in an ideal location for an anemone. I have a rocked that has a Cup shaped
ledge in it with a deep crevice which it seems to be liking. Although now I think it
doesn't have enough light. I have 4 3ft VHO bulbs above my tank. The high of the lights above the anemone is about 12"-14". I've read that BTAs
don't need tons of light but I think it's a little low lit. <yes, should be in the highest part of your tank unless you're using metal halide lighting.> It has eaten some
formula one and krill/Mysid prep. It looks healthy but I think it might not do too well. So would adding a 250w MH bulb help out? <yes>
I'm assuming yes, this would probably also help out my corals and soon to come corals. <Surely> I've also read Bobs home made food recipe
consisting for primarily shrimp. I was thinking of making that and freezing it then I could use a cheese grader and grade food for the anemone. <Perfect> I think it was Anthony suggested feeding anemones shreds of food as oppose to chunks. <Easier to digest, less likely that a fish/shrimp will have the chance to grab it.> Is that true? <Yes, I believe so> Either way the cheese
grated food would work pretty well regardless. One of my other concerns is that the clown will not take to my anemone and continue on the flowerpot. <It will take time> So I've
since moved the Flowerpot almost directly above the anemone (its far enough away to where they
don't touch at all). <Sedentary animals don't like to be moved.> The clown looks somewhat confused. She sits on the other side of the tank still. I hope she sees the anemone and takes to it. <Possible, but it will take time>
I've read Bob's book and it's helped my tremendously. I want to read Mike
Paletta's book also. Thanks for all the help!!!
Chris <No problem! Good luck, Ryan>
-Appropriate set-up for a BTA-
Hi, and thank you for your prompt response. My tank dimensions are as follows, 48 X 18 X 24 (90 gallons). I have a sea clone protein skimmer (100 gal rating) <Says the Aquarium Systems marketing department, 20g says Kevin>, penguin 440 power head <Make sure the intake is adequately covered to defer any possible anemone puree to come.>, two 400 emperor power filters ,300 watt heater, 48''-40 watt full spectrum bulb and a 48''- 40 watt actinic bulb in my canopy. <This is unfortunately far from the ideal (or even minimal) appropriate anemone set-up.
Until you can provide adequate housing for such critters, I would suggest bringing these guys back where you got them and chewing the clerk out who sold these to you, they should know better than this.> The tank is a year old.
PS :If I was to add live rock to my aquarium, would I have to remove all the base rock and just go with live? How much live rock would be required for 90 gallon aquarium? <Here's my suggestions for converting this tank to one appropriate for anemone husbandry. The first step is to upgrade your protein skimmer to one
truly adequate for your purposes (Suggestions: AquaC EV-120, Precision Marine Bullet 1, Euroreef, etc. Please do some research on the various brands of skimmers on the market, and also do a little research on the sea-clone, you'll be
surprised what you find out.). The second step would be to make sure that you're using water from a known good source, preferably through a reverse osmosis and/or deionization filter. I would then establish a live sandbed if one has not been established and add some cured live rock (50lbs or so to get going, you may find that you don't want more than this, or you may add as much as you want). Once the tank has been cooking for a while w/ the LR and LS, you can take care of the lighting. This is just a quick rundown, so do yourself a favor and search through our copious stacks of articles and FAQ's on keeping anemones and reef aquariums before you make your first purchase, livestock or otherwise. Remember, if you do not remove these anemones to a
proper home, they will slowly starve to death, which is going on right now. I hope this helps! -Kevin>
Regards, Brent J
- Using Iodine/dide and Rose Bubble Lighting -
Greetings from Tampa,
<Greetings from Boca Raton.>
I work at an LFS and have some experience with freshwater and FOWLR systems,
with little to none in corals ( not that I pretend to have any when anyone
asks)(it has definitely given me the right starting point on basic questions of
inquiry in troubleshooting), but let me say that with WWM I at least have
somewhere to go to do some homework and at least have something to say about
things I'm unfamiliar with. <Good to hear.>
Quite simply, I am in an eternal state of gratefulness towards this site and all
its contents and would have felt a lot less confident/ informed otherwise.
So here's a big thank you, now on to the varied questions :)
- I've heard some differing opinions on the use of iodine/iodide dosing in
tanks, this also happens in the WetWebFotos forums as well where some people
swear by its use and others do just fine by saying water changes are enough and
using those added into their salt, I also find little information in The
Conscientious Marine Aquarist book which keep at the store where only 1-2
sentences are dedicated to it. at the same time I've seen some email responses
advocating its use on a daily basis where other staff members would consider it
much less important. Anyway, its hard to find literature on this, could you
recommend a website or another reading material that is comprehensive on the
subject? <None that I can think of, although I'd add Eric Borneman's Aquarium
Corals to your reading list - some good information there.> At most I'd like to
give an informed response to customers to the best of my abilities.
at most I understand the basics, utilized by some corals, depreciates quickly,
useful for molting of inverts. dosing is needed based on its consumption and is
somewhat replenished via the salt, but there's are all somewhat laymen and I
kind of desire a little more in-depth coverage of it, any help would be useful.
<I'm afraid I don't have a link for you.>
also, concerning BTAs, primarily a rose anemone, in your exp have you found any
clown that doesn't take to these? <Most perculas and ocellaris won't but there's
always exceptions to the rule.> because so far I've found that Clarkiis,
maroons, and Sebaes (sp), have all taken to this anemone. and after searching
through the FAQs and articles I have yet to find a general specification towards
their lighting (I'm assuming VHOs/ halides would be sufficient but would one
placed within around 1watt/gal fluorescents be sufficient in any case? <No...
they need more intense lighting.> I know these are rather basic but the best way
for me to learn is by asking the dummy questions first, at least you can
somewhat offset lack of experience in some cases with a plethora of information.
thanks for your help (WetWeb + FAQs and everything) I'll be bugging you soon I'm
certain
Jared
<Cheers, J -- >
BTA lighting
Saw a nice bubble tip anemone (Entacmaea Quadricolor -spelling?) at my LFS today, thinking about purchasing
it for my reef tank. One of the things I honestly
have never kept is an anemone. I have a fixture
containing 2x 96 watt PCs (1 10k 1 actinic) and
another fixture with 2 18 watt PCs (1 6.5k and 1
actinic) in a 40 gallon tank 18" deep. (Massive space
constraints at my house :\ ) Would I need to get a
metal halide to provide necessary lighting at that
depth (was considering this anyway) or should I add
another 36 watt PC fixture (which I have spare)?
Thanks for any info.
M. Maddox <I don't believe any extra lights are needed
here my
friend... especially if you take the time to feed the
anemone small amounts regularly (say 3-5 times
weekly).
Do know, though... that those actinics really do
little for most coral/anemone growth and should not
"count" in any numbers you might be using like a watts
per gallon rule. Don't get me wrong, I love them too...
and keep them for aesthetics. But they are not the
"best" light for supporting zooxanthellate activity.
Just a perk/tweak.
Anthony>
Rose Bubble Tip Anemone 7/18/04
Hi, just found this site and I can't believe ALL the practical info one can
get just by sitting & reading. This is very addictive (really,
very helpful) for a newbie like me.
<very good to hear my friend>
I've inherited a 60 gal. reef tank with several small
frags. It's been up and running now for 9 months. My tank
reads: SG l.025, pH 8.2, N02 0, NO3 20, NH3 0. Calcium at
430, Alk. 3.2, dKH 9. I've got approx. 90 - l00 lbs. LR, 2" LS and running
this with 2 Bak-Pak 2R protein skimmer.
<do be sure to stir this sand weekly or have exceptional water flow.
Intermediate sand bed depths (1-3" can very difficult to keep in time (not
deep enough to be denitrifying and yet too deep to be fully
aerobic)>
The tank is also hooked up to an EHEIM 2215 canister filter with
bio filtration. Lighting: 1 175W MH, l4,000K (retrofit)
centered, 2 - 96W 03. Water temp. between 77 to 79.
<all good>
I would appreciate your help/advice on a few question:
First: In the last 6 weeks, I purchased a beautiful Rose Bubble Tip
Anemone.
<if this is a reef tank, please do reconsider keeping this or any anemone in
residence. They are a long term risk/recipe for disaster... usually waiting
until you go on vacation to die or move about the tank... stinging corals before
they proceed to a pump or overflow and clog the port... effectively killing the
whole tank in a day or so. This is a common scenario. Moreover, anemones and
corals are generally unnatural tankmates and a poor mix together>
My BTA seems to want to eat every day!
<if the pieces are small - minced very fine - then Ok. Else it is
regurgitating them at night and still getting little nutrition (hence the hunger
<G>)>
I'm feeding it Mysis, squid, and shrimp. The other day I notice for
the first time, brown/orange filaments being released from its mouth and then
later it shriveled up into its hole and was
all stringy.
<yikes!>
When the blue 03 light came on, it started to wave slightly. l
hour later the MH lights turned on and the anemone slowly started to revive and
inflate and look somewhat full. Is this normal or is my anemone in
trouble?
<these were mesenterial filaments from stress (aggression from a neighboring
coral or just aggressive corals in the same tank polluting water quality because
they sense each other)... or more likely, you gave it a chunk of food that was
too large. This can cause damage. Finely minced foods only please>
Second: My nitrates were 10 and now 20, the only thing I can think of
making the nitrates go up is possibly a dead cleaner shrimp which I can't
find.
<or the regurgitated food every night from the anemone>
I've done 2 20% water changes and the nitrates is still at
20. The LFS suggested I use ALGONE to absorb the nitrates and
phosphates. What do you think of this?
<I would not use or recommend it. Such products are treating the symptom and
not the real problem: excess nutrients from lack of water flow, overfeeding
and/or poor protein skimmer performance (less than 3-5 cups of dark skimmate
weekly)>
Third: Since the canister filter came with the tank, I'm wondering,
if I only have a reef tank, and the two reef protein skimmers, can I do
something to the canister to eliminate the bio part and just have the sponges in
there to filter?
<yes... especially if you have enough live rock in the he tank: 1-2 lbs per
gallon>
Thank you for your help and I really enjoy reading thru the daily info and
links. Nemo
<best regards, Anthony>
How much light does my rose anemone need?
Hi Gang:
<< Blundell here this afternoon. >>
I set up an anemone tank (60 gals) and added it to my reef system (common
sump) six months ago. Using a DSB and lots of live rock with surfaces
available at varying depths and 2-96 watt PC's (daylight plus actinic), I
figured I was safe. However after 2-3 months of frequent wandering, my rose
BTA has settle in to stay (3+ months) in the left rear of the tank, right at
the top. . . where it's 5-6" cumulative vertical-plus-horizontal distance
from a measly 28 watt PC mounted to run front-to-back near the sidewall of
the tank. The thing is, it's staying there. . . and growing nicely (easily
doubled in size). . . and the only thing that seems a bit 'off' is that some
of the lower tentacles are as long as 2-1/2". << Wondering if there will be a
question coming. If my rose anemone was staying put and growing well, I think
I'd just be sitting back and enjoying it. >> Water parameters are good. . .
and diet is for the BTA is varied (formula one, Mysis with Selcon, live
bloodworms). The anemone keeps itself 'canted' like a satellite dish toward
the available light. I feed a bit heavier than I might otherwise. . . and
keep the lighting cycle for that portion of the tank long (14-15 hours) to
try to make up for the 'meager' light. Should I be worried? [The BTA is a
bright fluorescent orange. . . no trace of green or other colors anywhere. .
. if that makes any difference.] << I wouldn't be worried at all. If he is
growing, just do what you are doing. I believe that many anemones (including
yours) will simply move if they aren't getting what they need. So if that is
where he wants to be, then I guess let him be. >>
Chuck
<< Blundell >>
Are my BTA plans A-OK?
Hello, Thanks for your Site!
<Hi Flo, PF with you tonight>
Sorry for the lengthy email, but I'm trying to get this right. I am
creating an anemone/clownfish tank because I've always wanted one but wanted to
do it successfully. I wanted to run these ideas past you before
starting as I'd like to minimize any potential errors. I've gotten
fairly good advice from my LFS but they are in the business of selling me
things, and have occasionally given me wrong advice.
<An all too common occurrence. Some of the translations of LFS I've heard are
not appropriate for a family site such as this.>
I have a 75 gallon soft coral tank with a couple fish including a Mandarin
Dragonette (had a year and he is very healthy and happy- lots of live always
available food). Good water parameters, small weekly water changes
help keep this tank healthy. This is going well, so I'm trying
another tank.
<Ok>
I've done lots of research on BTA's through your well organized site and on the
net, but as it happens cannot find exactly what I am doing and would rather
modify my plans now rather than killing anything or trying to save something
because I screwed up. I'm looking at purchasing a BTA from someone
locally who has had BTA's split in their tank. I think I'll have a
better chance of keeping it alive by purchasing a tank raised specimen that
hasn't endured shipping, and from what I've read most of these shouldn't be
taken from the sea. So I'll be using my 40 gallon with one 175w MH
w/a 10,000k bulb, and a regular 30w florescent for a bit of blue actinic light.
The individual who has had these split is using MH's on smaller tanks and the
anemones look good so I'm trying to replicate the environment. Should
I use one 55w actinic PC with the MH instead of regular florescent or does it
matter?
<Well, the actinics are more for our enjoyment, but 30w NO isn't that much.
If you're looking for the fluorescent look, go with the PC's, or use VHO's. The
lighting sounds good.>
I have about 50 lbs of already cured good live rock used from another tank in
the 40 gallon, but to move the tank a distance added new water. There
is nothing else in the tank except water, the live rock, and 3-4 inches of live
sand and a bit of normal growth on the live rock like attached small dusters
etc. I'm thinking about waiting a month and then starting to stock
the tank
to let it cycle again. Is this right?
<Well, anemones like well aged tanks. I'd say wait six months (the number one
commodity in short supply among most aquarists: patience). Provide the tank with
a few pinches of food every couple of days so your detritivore population can
build up, ramp up the food slowly and your population will grow.>
Then I want to add 1-2 3" BTA anemones first and leave them for a month,
then provided they are doing well, add two small clownfish. I think
I'm better off adding the BTA and
letting it settle before the clownfish.
<I would agree, but you might want to wait for the BTA's to get a little
bigger before adding the clowns, say another inch of growth. Give them a couple
of months (3-4) to settle in.>
I'm thinking Percula Clowns as they are small and very attractive fish- it looks
like they could be compatible possibly and I'm not sure I want a more difficult
anemone. If they do not take to the anemone that'd be ok- but I hope
they like it. Do you have any better recommendation for clownfish?
<I like both true and false percs. As for getting them to host, I
photoshopped a picture of a false perc and a Caribbean Rock anemone together and
taped it to the outside of my tank. It took a week for them to get the idea. Be
aware, they can and will change hosts. Mine moved from the anemone, to a
powerhead (they don't call them clowns for nothing), and now my hammer coral. Go
figure...>
And is that timeframe fine?
<See above>
I'm looking at 1.025 Specific Gravity and a 78-80 Degree
Temperature. Is that good?
<Yes, also, don't forget to feed your BTAs. Chopped seafood, preferably
whole. Some prefer fish, others shrimp or squid. Guts and all.>
After all the BTA and clowns, I'd like to add a couple maxima
clams. From what I've read on the site, that should be
OK. If anything out grows the tank (if all is happy it should) I'll
upgrade to a larger tank.
<I'm not completely up on clams, but I'm guessing they would be ok, you might
want to ask around for a second opinion though.>
I have a skimmer that is rated for up to 250 gallons and sump that is running on
this tank. And two maxi-jet powerheads to provide water motion.
<Sounds good, remember, the anemones will move if they don't like where they
are.>
Sound ok? Anything else I should do or add or change to give the
prospective tank inhabitants ?
<A clean up crew, and maybe some cleaner shrimp, and peppermints. Just a few
suggestions.>
Thanks,
Flo
<You're welcome, have a good evening, PF>
BTA Help 8/4/03
Hello,
I have read most that I could find on your site about the Bubble
Tips. Thanks for such an informative site. I still have a
questions though, I have a 75 gallon tank with about 55 lbs of live
rock, I used all live sand, and the inhabitants include: 4 blue green
Chromis, 1 orchid Dottyback, 1 Banggai cardinalfish, 1 flame
angelfish, 1 maroon Anemonefish, 1 brown barred goby, 1 yellow tang,
4 turbo snails, 4 red legged hermits, 3 blue legged hermits, and the bubble tip
anemone. I do a five gallon water change a week, religiously.
<excellent to see weekly water changes... but the portion is way too small.
Larger would be much better for long-term success IMO. 10 gallons minimum
(10-20% weekly)>
The PH is 8.0,
<Yikes! If this is a daytime reading... its getting much lower at night.
Rather dangerous at any rate. Do raise this to a night/day range of 8.3-8.6>
nitrite 0, nitrate 0, ammonia 0.
<you will need to let a few ppm of nitrate linger for symbiotic cnidarians
like coral and anemones for their zooxanthellae>
My anemone was fine for the first month or so but recently deflated and crawled
into a crevice.
<it may be wanting to split/reproduce. They do this and look dreadful for
some days/weeks before splitting>
The maroon was having a difficult time getting into him so I moved him out
(basically just flipped over the rock he was attached to ) and now he is doing
something I haven't been able to find in any of my research. He looks
like he is turning himself inside out. He is totally deflated on one
side and only very slightly inflated on the other.
<still perhaps fission... although it may also be morbidity>
He has what looks like small white squiggles in long strings hanging out
of his mouth area.
<mesenterial filaments... defensive>
I'm afraid to feed him while he is like this.
<agreed>
He has been like this for most of a day now. Any help would be
appreciated. thanks, Eric Hummel
<tough to say with certainty. No worries about feeding for a while. Focus on
water quality and observation... do share a pic if you can. Kind regards,
Anthony>
Problem Solving!
Dear Scott,
<Hello again!>
Thanks for responding. I promise this will be shorter than last message!
<Hey- that's why I signed on for this gig! LOL>
On the BTA-He has stayed in the same locale and will hopefully move on
"foot" from now on. Since he has had that encounter with the strainer,
I am concerned about how pale he is (the green is still good and there is a hint
of brown).
<As long as it appears to be recovering, that's a good thing!>
Please talk to me about feeding. I have heard 1/week, 2/week/, 5/week, etc. and
about completely different foods. I am confused.
<Well, there are tons of different thoughts on this subject. My research
seems to indicate that these animals feed daily in the wild, so I can't imagine
it being detrimental (except if inadequate nutrient export mechanisms exist in
your tank) to feed it daily, or every other day...I'd try a variety of frozen
fish foods, and carefully observe which ones the animal "recognizes"
as food sources. An anemone will usually "reject" what it does not
recognize as a food, so go with what works!>
Also, should the feeding be different after the strainer incident?
<I would continue a routine feeding regimen. Just observe the animal a bit
more closely>
A small amount of Brine Shrimp Plus has drifted to him two days in a row and he
has pulled it in. I know it doesn't mean he is eating it, but he acts
hungry...please advise.
<If it appears to be consuming this food, keep using it!>
What is the best we can do for him with VHO lighting? We have painted the
interior of the cover a glossy white to help reflect the light.
<That's fine. If the animal appears to be reacting negatively to the
lighting, you may have to augment as required...Again, observation is the
key..>
The six-foot (white) tubes only say - Aquasun/7 VHO-1. I have no clue what
wattage...
<Hmm...something the "expert" might be able to tell you. You need
to know, especially when it's time to replace them...By the way- how old are the
bulbs? Are they ready to be replaced?>
I have removed nine molly millers, but not the tomato clown with ich. She was
afraid of the net, so I am feeding her from it (that's how I got so many MM -
smiling). I may be able to get her out tonight without much fuss (she has been
half-way in the net).
<Keep trying. It's important to get everyone out for the treatment>
My question is, how do I set up a QT? I have a 10 gal tank, no cover, no lights,
no heater and no pump, no nothing. I do have a bubbler and a long narrow heating
pad.
<Well, you almost have everything that you need. Here is an article by yours
truly about setting up a QT...Hopefully, it will answer some of your questions,
and the same idea works for a "hospital" tank: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/QuarMarFishes.htm >
Am I nuts to think it wouldn't be wise just to dip and then put her back in with
the others? My husband's aquarium pal gave four options: flush her (he had to be
kidding), do a dip and put her back, put her in a dif. aquarium, or let the ich
run its course. Let the ich run its course, I'm not nuts. He's nuts!
<Well, I'm inclined to agree! "Running its course" means that the
life cycle of the causative parasites will go on and on- constantly re-attaching
to fishes after dropping off...Until the fish dies. You need to address the life
cycle of the parasite - knock it off on the fish with medication, and let the
display tank run fallow, without fishes, for a bout a month - this will deprive
them of hosts...Lots more bout this on the WWM site..>
What about the other fish? My husband is on duty again (Hospital chaplain) and I
just feel the other shoe is about to drop. I have ordered a total of four books,
but need to correct these current problems before I get them. Help, I am
drowning in a sea of misinformation! Crystal
<Well, hang in there, Crystal! I'd start with a search under "parasitic
diseases" on the WWM site, and you'll find plenty of GOOD information!>
P.S. We have an RO/ DI water purifying system (not just RO) whatever that means.
<"DI" means "deionization"- another phase of the water
purification process...A good thing! Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
-Macrodactyla doreensis and Entacmaea quadricolor-
Macrodactyla doreensis and Entacmaea quadricolor have interested me for a
long time.. I have finally decided to give it a try.. the tank has cycled.. its
a 60 gallon tank.. the dimensions are (LxWxH) 48"x15"x14.5"..
lighting is what came with the system about 120 watts.. 2 4' Coralife 40w 50/50
and 1 4' 40w marine Glo.. I also have 30 lbs of live rock in the tank.. my
question is what is this amount of light enough to keep these particular
anemone's?? <I would suggest at least 4x55w PC's as a minimum for either, and
of the two E. quad. is a much hardier specimen (they can also easily be acquired
tank raised.>and if not, are there any other anemone's that would work in this
amount of light??? <Not any Pacific anemone I can think of> and if not..
are
there any corals that I could keep with this amount of light?? <'Shrooms and
polyps may do alright, but I'd strongly suggest upgrading to my earlier
suggestion. Good luck! -Kevin> thank u very much for answering.. Jiwan
Bubble-tip Anemone
Greetings crew,
I've seen a lot of great color morphs of Entacmaea quadricolor lately and am
considering setting up a dedicated system featuring them.<ok>
I have an unoccupied 55 that will have LR and DSB, 20 gal sump with
little Tunze Comline skimmer. 2 150watt HQI pendants w/ XM 20,000K bulbs. Sump
return will be about 600 GPH. Would like to place 5 different clones of
Bubble-tips. I already have 2 large (4-5"d) greens. Have a source for
smaller (2"+) rose and teals. Will they all just get along? or am I in for
physical or chemical rumbles? Would also like to put a CB pair of Premnas and
some porcelain crabs (Neopetrolisthes sp). I know these will fight for anemones
but what if I have more anemones that potential occupants? <this still
presents a problem... what happens if they want the same anemone? I would only
go with one species>
Okay, that's all for now. Please add comments if I am overlooking something.
Again, thank you for your help
<This link should answer all of your questions http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemones.htm>
Regards,
Bryan
Clownfish and anemones
Hello, <Howdy!> a few questions could you please answer
I have just got a bubble tip anemone and a pair of maroon clowns one is about 9
cm long and the other is only 2-3 cm long I was wondering will they mate if so
then when?<They probably will, I couldn't tell you when as there are many
factors that effect this from the fish themselves to their environment.>
The bubble tip anemone keeps moving around, is it normal what is wrong, also how
can I stop it from moving?<Do you have enough lighting? If so just
let him be and he will find a place that he likes.>
Should the anemone be on rocks or is it ok for it to be on sand?<They usually
climb up onto your rockwork. Cody>
E. Quad turning brown?
Greetings
<Anthony Calfo in your service>
First off, I must commend you and your staff for doing such a fine job /
service to our hobby. It's difficult to be an electrician, plumber, chemist,
doctor and mother,
<did you just call me a Mother? <G> Some appreciation... sheesh! :)
>
but your site has made it much easier. thanks :)
<you are very welcome... I think>
I have experienced freshwater for the last 15 years and recently plunged into
saltwater. I purchased a BTA about three months ago with a pair of false
percs. The anemone seemed healthy when I purchased it...... med. in size,
green in color with pink tips, brown base, sticky to touch, and attached to
a rock. I feed it every two to three days (turkey baster) with a full
spectrum cube containing a mixture of minced clams, krill, fish, fish roe,
mussels, kelp and zooplankton. Over the last two weeks I have noticed some
of the tentacles turning a brownish color. It still has it's bubbles but
where the brown is, the bubbles are smaller. I have heard of this occurring
but I'm not sure if its good, bad or something that just is.
<two different issues here... color change and waning "bubbles".
Waning bubbles are common and unclear to cause. Some theories include lack of
dynamic water flow which I subscribe to in part. Another theory is a lack of
stimulation from fish guests, which I do not subscribe to. The color change is
an entirely different matter. It is most often inadequate light (common) or
aging/dirty lamps that reduce otherwise "good" light. Your lighting
system below is rather modest for anemones and hard corals. If the lamps are more
than 3" off the surface of the water then this color change was inevitable
with any amount of fluorescent bulbs (NO or PC). Such bulbs need to be VERY
close to the water to be effective at all. Furthermore, if you anemone is more
than 8-10" deep in the tank...again, no surprise. UI suspect that some or
all of these things are involved. Most anemones die within 6-12 months from slow
starvation because they fail to reach their compensation point for survival even
with heavy feeding. These are VERY demanding photosynthetic animals requiring
hardcore reef lighting as a rule. If not the above, the next likely cause is
excess nitrates/nutrients. If your skimmer does not produce dark skimmate every
day then the zooxanthellae are being "over-fertilized" and the color
change is a masking population of symbiotic algae. Get a better skimmer then
:)>
It hasn't
wandered since I placed it in the tank in a crevice and overall appears
normal (still eating, sticky, attached.) Here are my tank stats:
10 gal. 6 months old
15# live rock (Fiji)
1 in, sand bed
aqua clear mini - foam insert, sometimes carbon
bubble wand across back of tank for aeration and circulation
2 x 13 watt power compacts 50/50 (bulbs 4 months old)
1 15watt NO 18,000k (bulb 2 months old)
<beyond the above... your lights may have too much blue to be useful
(attractive color though). Most coral and anemone need full daylight
illumination. Just add blue or 50/50 for cosmetic effect for the more demanding
animals>
-if this isn't sufficient, I have a 40 gal long with 4 x 55watt power
compacts but I didn't want to stress it until I find out what's going on.
<yes my friend... the 41 watts of light over this anemone are staggeringly
weak... but do acclimate the anemone slowly to the new/brighter lights. see
here: http://www.WetWebMedia.com/acclimcoralslight.htm>
Plus
there are some pests in there that I need to remove. Also, I was afraid it
would eat my royal Gramma or bat heads with the 2 Florida sea cucumbers (bad,
I know. -came as part of a "package" from you know who in
Florida.
<ughhh! don't get me started...heehee. Fascists with little respect for
life/animals>
haven't
had a problem yet but you'll be the first to know. hehe -in the meantime
keeping fingers crossed, saying prayers, knocking on wood and throwing salt
over my shoulder.)
salinity 1.025
ph 8.4
ammonia 0
nitrites 0
nitrates 0
calcium 380
temp 80 - 82
weekly water change of 3 gallons.
top off with ro/di water -Kalk every other day or so
tank friends:
the e. quad
2 false percs
3 blue legged hermits
1 Astrea snail
1 silver dollar sized brittle star
<all fine>
thanks so much for your advice / time. Denise
<best regards my friend. Anthony>
E. quadricolor
Hello All,
Thanks for the good advice in the past!
<You are welcome.>
I bought a green tipped bubble anemone yesterday and put him in my FOWLR tank
(50 gallon). My nitrates tested around 20. Too high?
<Closer to zero would be better.>
What do I need to watch for in the animal to see if it is affecting him?
<Once you see symptoms, it will be too late.>
I plan to do water changes to get this level down.
<This will help if your new water is free of nitrates (RO or DI water with a
good salt mix).>
Would a refugium setup be a good idea here to keep it very low in nitrates?
<Yes, another part of the equation along with the water changes, other
nutrient export processes, proper feeding, and all other aspects of good
husbandry.>
My lighting is 2 55-watt Custom Sea Life Smartlamps. The tank is only 16"
deep and the tallest live rock is 10" from the bottom. Is the lighting
adequate?
<It does not sound like it. I would ballpark this as about half to three
quarters of needed light.>
I plan to feed him Formula One and Mysis a few times a week. Let me know if
there is anything else I need to know. I have read through the website and some
of the FAQ regarding this animal. Thanks again for your services. Michael
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
BTA
Hello everyone!
<Hello someone!>
Hope all is well with the crew of WWM. I also hope all of you have a
very happy holiday season and a very merry Christmas!
<with thanks and hope for you in kind>
I purchased another BTA yesterday, but with much more knowledge than I did last
time. :) It's large, expanding to about 8" across at
maximum, and is about an average of 5". It's got a very deep,
rich color, very purplish with a reddish/purple foot/body. no tears,
no abrasions, good "earthy/fishy" smell, long expanded tentacles
etc. Was directly under a 175w MH at the LFS. They'd only
had it a week though.
<hmmm... that part sucks a little... would have been nice to watch it
longer>
It responds well and quickly to any stimulation, whether it be touching,
lighting... It moves fast too. After it attached it had
moved the equivalent of about 4 feet around my tank in 2 hours. Here
is where the question is... it concerns circulation. I
have a 20gal long (pretty much anemone only tank... a few corals on the right
well separated from the anemones).
<not enough in such a small tank with regard for allelopathy. This will be a
problem in 6-12 months and alone will cause frequent moving of the BTA from
sensation of competitive cnidarians within inches of it>
Anyway, for main circulation I have two Rio 180s in the top back corners, both
aimed at the center with diffusers. I think this is too much current,
<I highly doubt it>
as the anemone moved away behind the rocks where the current is much
weaker.
<as or more likely that the sensation of corals so nearby caused it>
Since I obviously don't want the anemone there, where it isn't getting light and
is hard to feed, I simply turned the rock around so it is facing the front under
good lighting. I turned down the powerhead flow and it hasn't moved
in several hours (we'll see about that tonight when the lights go
out). Question is, is there another way to set up circulation in my
tank without a laminar flow?
<converging as you had it to produce random turbulent flow is fine...
circulation is not the problem here at any rate. Even in a larger aquarium, it
is inappropriate to mix motile anemones with sessile corals. A recipe for
disaster in the long run... especially in a small tank>
Even with the powerheads aimed at the center of the tank, the flow still seems
somewhat laminar and actually quite abusive to the anemones (it blows them
around like palm trees in a tornado, that is almost literally what it looks
like).
<then aim back left to front right and vice versa instead of converging in
the middle>
I have tried to assemble two spray bars, but cannot find any pieces of plastic
piping of any kind, pvc, acrylic etc. that will fit to make them.
<spray bars are generally a waster of time (too diffusive)>
So I am lost as for circulation. Any advice here would be very much
appreciated!
<as per above>
Oh, as an update, the first anemone I bought is now almost completely
bleached. However, a few of its tentacles have started regaining
color.
<reassuring to hear>
It doesn't look perfectly healthy, but it isn't dead either... not
yet. I feed it Sweetwater zooplankton religiously every other day,
and it eats it quite voraciously.
<excellent!>
I'm going to do my best to keep it alive, but any advice other than what I'm
doing?
<small frequent feedings are the key until it colors and can feed itself
better>
I noticed that clams don't seem to be stung/affected by anemones. Is
this true?
<correct>
My LFS has a 12" Rose BTA with half of its tentacles wrapped around a
crocea and squamosa, and neither clam cares. They've been like that
for months, and the clams and anemone have both grown a lot. I
wouldn't mind making this a clam/anemone tank and removing the other corals to a
34gal tall I have.
<that is a VERY good idea my friend>
Well, once again thank you for the time you spend in answering
e-mail! The "crew" is the most reliable source of frank,
honest and expedient answers I have ever encountered.
<thank you kindly>
You guys could put together a consulting company :)
<Hmmm... but who would pay us for our expertise on Mexican food, flatulent
harmonics and silicone implant sonar?>
RVM
<Happy holidays, Anthony>>
- Tank Raised Anemone Placement -
Hello at Wet Web,
<Hello, JasonC here...>
I have a tank-raised Bubble Tip anemone coming in on Saturday, along with an
immature mated pair of Yellow-Striped Maroon Clowns, and I've read that
placement for the Bubble Tip is best accomplished by putting it either on or
under a piece of live rock with a good crevice in it. <That helps, but
doesn't always work.> I know they prefer to attach to rock, so in an effort
to place him the best I can when he arrives, I'd appreciate your ideas on doing
just that. <I think your stated plan is probably your best shot. Perhaps turn
down the flow in the tank, remove a power head or two until it is attached -
that way it isn't blown about the tank.> I know he may wander a bit until
he's happy--just thought you may have some helpful ideas.
Also, knowing how the clowns will protect their anemone, any ideas on feeding
the anemone without being attacked by the Maroons? <With a turkey baster or
large syringe.>
Many thanks,
Peggy
<Cheers, J -- >
BTA CLOSED UP 2/6/03
I have had this BTA for a couple of months. It is attached to a piece of
coral. It exists with a percula in it. Yesterday while performing a 20% water
change a small piece of evaporated salt fell into the BTA. Since then it
immediately closed up and has stayed this way. I realize it cannot eat like
this.
<indeed... just irritated>
I also understand if it dies it will detach and float.
<not correct necessarily. May just sink and stink>
Is there anything to do other than wait??
<for the time past now... the damage, if any, is done>
It is closed up tight like a fist. Thanks Paul
<Paul... please do browse our WetWebMedia.Com archives specifically for the
FAQs (many pages here) just on BTAs. I suspect that you would learn a lot and
perhaps be surprised about its needs, reproductive tendencies, feeding
requirements, and the irritation from that clownfish. Anthony>
A bulb-tipped anemone quest
Hi Robert,
<Hello>
I checked out your site and your as well other articles on bulb-tipped anemones. I am going to be setting up a 10gal aquarium in the next few weeks that will include an Elysia
crispata (lettuce sea slug), various xenias, some open brain corals, a sunrise Dottyback, and maybe some other undecided stuff. I live in Miami and am trying to keep a mostly/somewhat native tank. Ok, my question is,,, would a bulb-tipped anemone be safe to keep in my aquarium?
<A bulb-tipped anemone as in the Pacific Entacmaea quadricolor? Not easily kept in such a small volume (though have seen this done). Or maybe you mean the tropical West Atlantic Condylactis gigantea? A much better, more local animal.>
What type would be good? What are optimal conditions for such an anemone? Thank so much!
<Please go back and read over the anemone sections (including FAQs) on WetWebMedia.com>
Morgan Moore
<Husbandry, selection issues are covered there. Bob Fenner>
BT anemone
Hi Bob!
<You actually got Steven pro today.>
It's me again. We have had 2 clownfish for about a week now, just bought an anemone today (didn't like the ones they had when we where there last). Several questions for you. How long, if ever, will it take the clowns to take to the anemone, the store said it was a
Sebae. I know I read the articles about them. This one is pale green with purple tips. The second question is what and how should I feed it. Have cruised through the site, and can't find any specific information.
<Mysis shrimp and/or plankton>
That or I'm just blind today. If you could help me out I would greatly appreciate it. also, the site states that the anemone requires bright light, how bright? I have 2 white fluorescent, and 1 blue moon. Tank is 24" deep app. don't have a tape measure handy. Is 75 gallons. Each light is 20 watts.
<No where near enough light, a total of 60 watts for a 75. You need to purchase a new light system. Four 110 watt VHO's would be good.>
Got confused reading your section on lighting. The lights available here for aquarium use don't have that info on them. Sorry to bug you so much. Will be awaiting your reply.
<Try reading this article http://www.WetWebMedia.com/bubbletipanemones.htm It is on bubble tip anemones, but much of the info would be helpful. For future reference, it is much better to find out how to care for an animal before purchasing it. That way your tank and you are properly prepared to care for it.>
Thanks Again! Kat
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
Bubble Tip Anemone
Dear Robert/Anthony
<Steven Pro this morning.>
I have just recently put a reserve on a nice Bubble tip anemone in my LFS (purple base with green tinted tentacles). It seems healthy in the shop with a large maroon clownfish currently in residence within it.
I am just enquiring (excuse the extremely familiar question) if my lighting is good enough to keep it. My tank is 72 long x 18 wide x24 deep. I have 2 60" marine
whites Arcadia) 1 60" actinic blue (arcadia)& 1 42" 50/50. All lights have reflectors and my tank is 10 months old with various soft
Sarcophyton species within it.
<Seems a bit low in intensity to