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Where does the calcium go? 6/7/12 Dosing Question -- 2/8/07 <Hi Scotty, Brenda here tonight> First of all, let me say you guys are the best!!! <Thank you!> Now, I searched the forums and got some of my answer to this question, but need you to finish it. <I'll try> I add part 1 and part 2 of the Oceans Blend calcium and alkalinity supplement. I have added over 48 ml in the last 72 hours, but my test kit is showing no increase in calcium (stays at 350ppm). My pH has been rising, even though I have added an equal amount of part II (alkalinity). <I need actual results of pH> I do not have an alkalinity test kit yet (will get one soon), so I have no idea to see where that is, and am basing any decision I make on an unknown. <Yikes! Please stop! You will also need a Magnesium test kit. Mg should be in the 1300 -- 1500 ppm range for everything to balance properly.> So my question is should I continue with both parts until my calcium gets to 400 ppm. <No> Should I use one for a few doses without the other as a way to balance out the pH? Or should I just sit tight and let things get settled? <Sit tight until you get some more test kits.> Best idea is to listen to what you guys <or gals> have to say. <Never dose calcium, alkalinity or magnesium into your tank until you know what your levels are. Please read for a better understanding: www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/nov2002/chem.htm www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-04/rhf/feature/index.htm www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/oct2003/chem.htm www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-03/rhf/index.php#3 Also, here is a calculator to help you with dosing. It sure makes my life easier: http://home.comcast.net/~jdieck1/chemcalc.html > Scotty, NY <Good luck Scotty, and be patient! Brenda> Striking A Balance Hi, <Hello- Scott F with you!> I just have a quick question. Can alkalinity ever be too high ? I tested my calcium level and right now it is about 350 (test only measures in increments of 50). I was told by my local fish store that if my calcium is only 350 then alk can never be too high and that if I added buffer every day it would be fine? Does this make sense. How often should I add buffer? <Well, any substance that you add to the water, including buffers and Kalkwasser, requires testing to verify not only that the amount that you are adding is appropriate- but to see if it is even necessary. Just adding buffer or other additives without supporting water testing is a bad "habit" to get in to, IMO!> They told me to put in every day to maintain current level . This does not seem to be correct in my opinion. I was under the impression that if I dosed Kalk, this would maintain alk, and that the higher your alk is the lower calcium will be. Thanks <Well, your LFS seems to have made a very generalized statement. The calcium/alkalinity dynamic is somewhat confusing and often misunderstood. Suffice it to say (and here I am generalizing!) that a very high calcium level often has an accompanying moderate alkalinity level. You really cannot have both high calcium and high alkalinity at the same time...As Anthony eloquently points o ut with his "marble analogy" in his "Book of Coral Propagation", a given quantity of water can only "hold" so much, before something has to "fall out" of solution. The best thing that we can do is keep a "balance" between the two factors. Remember, too, that we tend to get really fixated on specific readings as our "target", and sometimes forget to just look at the aquarium...Your animals will let you know if your calcium level is sufficient, through growth and overall health. Do a little reading on the WWM site to get a better understanding of the calcium/alkalinity dynamic...You've got a good idea so far- just keep reading up on it! Good luck! Scott F> - Calcium & Alkalinity - Hey Steven Pro <Hello, JasonC here today...> I try and not ask to many question or take you guys for granted. But sometimes I just need a little clearing of the facts. And I did check your FAQs. <Ok.> Can you explain the calcium/alkalinity relationship? <Not very well in a brief email... the quick answer is that at high levels, they are mutually exclusive.> I don't mean the whole thing. I don't need numbers or specs or formulas. Just why does it seem alkalinity goes down when calcium goes up? <Uhh... you've asked the loaded question to which there is no simple answer.> Although I don't think it really does go down. There must be some symbiotic relationship. <They are not symbiotic.><<Are more "antagonistic", mutually-exclusive... though both necessary. RMF>> I just seem to be missing a piece in the puzzle. <Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/calcalkmar.htm > Thanks, Bill <Cheers, J -- > Dynamic Dynamics of the Calcium Alkalinity Dynamic Hey guy..
hope this question finds you all doing well. <Just
dodged a round of layoffs at work, can't complain. Maybe
it's time to move on.> I found a site stating that
the balance to an Alk level of 4 meq would be 440 ppm Ca . Does this
sound ok with you enlightened folks.. <My search for enlightenment,
hmm... I do need to get back to that, but for now lets talk Calcium and
Alkalinity. 4meq Alk is a fine hardness, when your Ca gets
up around 440ppm you will want to watch for creeping and spikes, 440ppm
is towards the top of the scale too much higher could cause
precipitating Alk.> Rush is talking about you guys when
he says "Knowledge on loan from God" hehe .. <Ha, simpler
than that, people sharing is a good thing. Check out the
following link for a good article on the relationship between Calcium
and Alkalinity. -Gage http://www.wetwebmedia.com/calcalkmar.htm
> keep up the good work. <Will Do.> |
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