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FAQs about the Diseases of Clownfishes: Physical Trauma,
Injury
Related FAQs: Clownfish Disease 1,
Diseases of Clownfishes 2, Diseases
of Clownfishes 3, Clownfish Disease 4, Clownfish
Disease 5, Clownfish Disease 6, Clownfish
Disease 7, Clownfish Disease 8,
Clownfish Disease 9,
Clownfish Disease 10, Clownfish
Disease 11, Clownfish Disease 12,
Clownfish Disease 13,
Clownfish Disease 14,
Clownfish Disease 15, & FAQs on Clownfish
Disease By: Environmental Stress,
Nutrition,
Social/Behavioral/Territoriality, & Pathogens: Lymphocystis,
Infectious Disease (Bacteria, Fungi...), Protozoans:
Cryptocaryon/Ich, Amyloodinium/Velvet,
Brooklynella (see article below), &
Mysteries/Anomalous Losses,
Cure, Success Stories, &
Clownfishes in General,
Clownfish Identification,
Clownfish Selection, Clownfish
Compatibility, Clownfish Behavior, Clownfish Systems, Clownfish
Feeding, Clownfishes
and Anemones, Breeding
Clowns
Related Articles: Clownfish Disease,
Brooklynellosis, Clownfishes,
Maroon Clowns, Marine
Disease,
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It's not unusual for these fishes to be rubbed, nicked,
beaten through the process of capture, holding, shipping... to get scratched
on rocks, pulled against pump intakes, get spined by tankmates... |
Black Spots on Clown Diagnosis –
06/02/08
Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening,
<And to you>
I have a False Perc in a 29G All-In-One. Heıs been hanging out for over
a year and a half and has had excellent health. He is the only fish
inhabitant. He took a liking to the Candy Cane LPS I put in around a
year ago and generally sleeps between one of the heads and the rock
every night along with just buzzing around the tank most of the day and
occasionally, rubbing the CC. He really enjoys swimming in the jet of
the powerhead. His diet consists of mysis and Formula-2 flake food. I
give him mysis twice a week and Forumla-2 twice a week. I have attached
a picture of some black ³dirt² spots that have shown up more recently. I
always remember him having some small spots but they seem to have gotten
more numerous. I cannot find any exact match of the spots on any search
other than it could be ³Black Ich²
<Mmm, no>
but he doesnıt really display any of the symptoms (he has been and
continues to be perfectly normal). Should I attempt to follow any
treatment for him at this point or continue on unless he starts showing
any other symptoms? Other tank inhabitants are various Corallimorphs,
GSP, some hermits, a fighting conch (yeah I know but he sure is cool to
watch), and various snails, and a sand flea (filter feeder under the
sand, very fascinating).
<Neat!>
Water is changed 20% every 10 days with distilled water and Oceanic
sand. I run carbon and Phosban to assist the biological filtration.
I attached a pic but I donıt believe it is of much use. They are very
tiny spots.
Thanks
Chris
<I don't think these markings are anything to really worry re... they're
very likely melanophores (color cells) showing/expressing from contact
with the stony coral. I do want to mention that if it were mine, I'd add
another Percula... Bob Fenner>
Re: Black Spots on Clown Diagnosis – 06/02/08
Thank you for answering my question and the format in which you
provide
knowledge to everyone. It is a great service for all who want to learn
versus being told. We all have a fiduciary responsibility to all that we
keep.
Chris
<Ah, welcome Chris. We are in agreement. Cheers, BobF> |
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Clown with hairs/fungus under throat –
06/02/08
I've got a clown with a bit of a problem. I recently lost my pair of false
Percs to a sudden outburst of violent behavior by my molly miller blenny. (he
has been removed) I got a tank bred false Perc
<Mmm, are better in duos>
a month ago. It appeared to be a healthy specimen. It' is exceptionally active &
never stops, has been gaining weight & is a veracious eater, he/she never
<It to she for now>
seems to stop moving so I'm having a very hard time trying to photograph the
problem. The fish appears to have 10-15 small hairs on it's throat almost like
what you would find with fungus but not as thick & more sparsely placed. Each
”hair” is about 2 mm long The fish is still active breathing/eating normally But
I have no idea what the hairs are. I’m thinking it’s probably some fungus. After
loosing my other clowns I really don't want to have this one die on me.
<Mmm... do you have bristle/Errantiate Polychaete worms?>
The 40 gal tank has been up and running for over a year. I have some mushrooms
several types of macro algae a tube worm, shore shrimp, various pods snails &
hermit crabs, Lubbock’s wrasse, fire fish, yellow line cardinal & the clown. The
water parameters are good and the SG is at 1.023.
<I'd raise this... 1.025>
I had a temperature drop in the tank yesterday just before the appearance of the
"hairs" While I was out of town the lights & heater did not come on. I came in a
while ago & discovered the hairs & the temperature drop. I'm still working on
getting the temp straightened out. Other than that all the other critters in the
tank seem fine. Any ideas on what to do about these hairs that have suddenly
sprouted overnight?
<I do think your clown got a mouthful of podial spines... See WWM (the search
tool) re. Nothing much to do re... but wait, will self-cure in weeks to months.
Bob Fenner>
Re: clown with hairs/fungus under throat
6/3/08
I haven't seen any bristle worms or other nasty critters & the strange thing
is the "hairs" that were on my clown's neck are now gone! The problem solved
it's self!
<Ah, good>
The clown & other fish appear to be doing fine. I still have no idea what the
hairs could have been but I'm glad that it went away.
<Me too! Cheers, BobF>
Clown fish
with bulging eye 4/16/08
Dear Wet Web Media Crew,
<Mark>
You guys have become my favorite resource on the internet. I have done
some reading on clown fish with a single bulging eye on the website and
that it seems that it is probably due to an injury (bump in the night)
but I guess like most aquarists I am just wanting to ensure that this is
all it might
be. I have a 75 gallon with 175w metal halides. The system has been
setup for a little over a year with stable water parameters. Other
inhabitants
include a golden headed sleeper goby, coral beauty angel, 4 pajama
cardinals, royal Gramma, 2 porcelain crabs, blue hermits, Astreas
snails, Cerith snails, and a couple of turbo snails along with a toad
stool leather, colt coral, RBTA, pulsing xenia, some Zoa's, and various
mushrooms. The clowns chose to host in the colt coral as you'll be able
to see by the attached picture.. They have been hosting in this coral
for more than 6 months.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Mark
<I do concur, agree with you that this eye complaint is highly likely
due to a mechanical injury... and will solve itself over time. Bob
Fenner>
Re: clown fish with bulging eye
4/28/08
Bob,
<Mark>
I just wanted to let you know that my clowns eye has healed and she is
still boss of the tank. Thank You so much for your help in validating my
research on your most excellent website/resource.
Mark
<Ahh~! Thank you for this follow-up. BobF> |
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Re: help? Clown dis., Popeye
2/9/08
Hello again,
In the two days that I knew this fish before him starting this behavior I had
never seen him bullied, he and his friend pretty much just hung out in their
little corner together. I've heard from people around the office that he is a
couple of years old now and never acted this way before. He has since been
removed from the main tank to a smaller, darker tank to rest but we cannot
medicate as that feeds the main tank.
<Still a good idea not to medicate>
I don't have access to a camera to send you a picture, but yes, his eye is
really far out of his head. He looks like one of those bug-eyed goldfish, but
only on one side.
<Fancy term, unilateral exophthalmia... Likely from a physical trauma>
He is still alive today, but has very little energy. He looks like he's having
very small seizures more than he does like he's swimming....
I do apologize for my lack of knowledge/resources on this matter, I don't have
fish for a reason and that is because I know they take a lot of knowledge and
work. I just can't stand to see this little guy's suffering and will do anything
I can to help him. I never dreamed I'd be starting a new job and becoming a
fishy caretaker too! Thanks so much for your time.
Christina
<No worries. Perhaps a bit of reading here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/Popeyetrauma.htm
Bob Fenner>
Clarkii Clownfish Acting Strange -
Possibly Stung by his Anemone?
Injured Clarkii or Brooklynellosis? – 12/13/07
Hi from Fort Walton Beach FL!
<Hello Dawn! Brenda here, suffering through the bitter cold!>
First of all I just want to thank you for such an awesome web-site!
<You’re Welcome! Thank you for the positive feedback!>
My SW friend turned me onto it and I have passed it along to another SW friend.
<Great!>
The site is absolutely invaluable to any experienced or novice marine aquarist
(like myself).
Here's my stats:
125 gal.
SG: In between 1.023-1.024
Nitrate 10
Nitrite 0
Alkalinity 300
PH 8.0
Phos 0.1
Calcium 400
Iodine .06
Magnesium 1400
<Temperature?>
Setup: Proclear Aquatic wet/dry, Proclear Aquatic Protein Skimmer, Fluval FX5
w/nitrate & phosphate sponge, and charcoal, and 2 Maxi-Jet 1200's, VHO lighting.
The 125 is an All Glass Megaflow with 2 overflows.
Stock: Orange Spotted Goby, A mated pair of Firefish, 1 blue green reef Chromis,
2 Clarkii clowns, 1 Domino damsel, 1 Bi-Color Pseudochromis, 1 Brittle Starfish,
1 Anemone,
<What species is the anemone?>
1 Mexican feather duster, 1 Atlantic feather duster, 3 Mexican Turbo Snails, 5
Nassarius Snails, Zoanthids, Xenia, Glove Polyp, Hammer Coral, Torch Coral, 2
Frogspawn, Candy Cane Coral, Bubble Coral, 110 lbs. of live rock and several
pounds of Tonga branch. Back to the larger of the two Clarkii clowns. "Clark"
took to the anemone right away and has been really tank mates with it since I
bought it (about 4 weeks ago).
<It is a pleasure to witness!>
Yesterday, I noticed Clark was sucking the tips of the anemone, sometimes more
than one tip at a time; and, acting out of character. I
understand it is completely normal for clown fish to suck anemones (through
reading articles on your site) however, when he was doing it he was laying
sideways and panting heavily. Now today, I see some type of lesion (kind of
looks like burn marks) on the top of his head and he is acting even more out of
character. He has his mouth open the entire time with a more labored breathing
and now he is hiding out, which he (she, you get the drift) has never done in
the past. Could it be possible that the anemone stung him?
<It is not likely for this to happen after 4 weeks. It is hard to say without a
picture. I suspect one of two things, an aggressive Domino Damsel or
Brooklynellosis. My guess is that it is Brooklynellosis. More information on
Brooklynellosis here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/brooklynellosisart.htm >
If so, will they typically recover from such an event? I'm at a loss what to do
here.
<It can recover from injury and Brooklynellosis. However, it sounds like the
Clarkii may be in the final stages of the disease.>
Since I'm new at the hobby (less than a year), I still freak out when I notice
something not right and test everything; but all is fine.
<Did you quarantine this fish and how?>
I have searched your site the past couple of hours and can't figure out what to
do, if anything. I do have a QT tank if I need to use it.
<I would remove the clownfish and place in quarantine. Read up on
Brooklynellosis, and know how to treat. If it is Brooklynellosis, the chance of
this fish being alive by morning, are slim. However, you may have more fish to
treat. I would also keep a close eye on the Damsel’s behavior. This fish can be
very aggressive and harmful. Anemones do best in a higher salinity. I recommend
slowly bringing your salinity up to 1.026 and reducing nitrates and phosphates
to zero. Also, your lighting may not be enough to support an anemone long term.
Can you give me more detailed information on this? How long has this tank been
up and running?>
All of the other fish seem perfectly content and normal. I appreciate your
assistance in advance.
Dawn
<Good luck to you Dawn! Brenda>
Re: Injured Clarkii or
Brooklynellosis? – 12/13/07
Hi Brenda,
<Hello Dawn!>
Thank you for your response.
<You’re welcome!>
Wow, hoping it isn't the latter of the two. I did read the article and it sounds
like what he has.
<Unfortunate, but it is not uncommon for wild caught clownfish.>
Expect he is gasping for air at the bottom of the tank, not top. It's hard to
tell with the lesions, but in any case, he looks worse this morning. At this
point, he won't make it, I can tell. It's making me feel so bad.
<I’m sorry!>
Even though we probably both suspect Brooklynellosis at this point, it was odd
that the Domino (yesterday) was swimming in front of Clark and fanning his tail
at his face. Hmmmm, why would he be doing that behavior?
<Domino Damsels can be evil! I have witnessed this myself many times. They are
not welcome in my tanks.>
I'm not sure what species my anemone is. If I had to guess, I would say maybe a
carpet.
<It is important to know which species, so that you can provide the appropriate
care.>
It is at the bottom of the tank and has burrowed his foot into the sand bed. He
has situated himself under a ledge of live rock so only has minimal lighting and
current in that location.
<This is not good. It will not last long under these conditions.>
I have not moved him because my experience is that they will just move
themselves back where they want to.
<Correct! It will move looking for a suitable environment. If there is not one
available, it will deteriorate.>
It is a kind of dirty pink color, around 1" short tentacles that have a green
tip on them. Not the bubble tip shape.
<The Bubble Tip anemone does not always have bubbles. However in this case, I do
not believe that you have a BTA. It is likely an LTA or a carpet.>
I did not QT Clark yesterday because I wasn't sure what to do. My QT tank is I'm
sure, minimally acceptable. It is a tank on reserve that we don't use and keep
for emergency purposes. It's a 5 gallon "eclipse type" tank (I can't remember
name brand). It has a built in filter with removable media bag, no heater
(though it would be easy for me to buy one) and just a compact florescent
natural daylight tube. It doesn't have the ability to "cycle" as it doesn't have
any type of biological capabilities.
<If the clownfish is still alive, I would still remove. Take water from the
existing tank. I also recommend getting in the habit of quarantining all new
species, coral included.>
I will work on raising salinity. Do all of the other corals/fish do fine at
1.026?
<Yes, and is closer to their natural environment.>
The lighting are 6' long VHO tubes. One is white, one is the blue light. We also
have moon lights for night viewing. No halide lighting, etc.
<This is not nearly enough lighting for this anemone.>
My temperature fluctuates between about 77-80 degrees.
<I would keep closer to 80 degrees.>
How long has the tank been up and running. That's a loaded question that I'll
explain. It was setup the end up July, 1st of August this year. I didn't have
any inverts at this time. Everything was fine until October 4th middle of the
night. We heard a loud "pop" and then an ensuing waterfall.
<Oh my!!!>
I knew what it was and I've been heartbroken ever since.
<I certainly would be too!>
That's right, the bottom of the tank cracked and all of the water, 125 gallons
+, drained out in less than a minute.
<Ouch!!!! Do you know what caused the break? Was the tank not level?>
Our home looked like a beach with water and live sand. It actually
ruined/flooded our entire home. I lost most of my fish. I actually started
thinking once the wave of shock left me and reached into pick the fish up off of
the sand bed and tossed them in the sump. I then over the next several days
found temporary homes in my SW friends.
<Good!>
I tossed all of the live rock into a 55 gallon bucket with SW and a jet. I
eventually got my hands on a borrowed 55 gallon aquarium that I set up in the
garage (while we remodeled our home which we are still doing). With that being
said, everything continued to be fine in the 55 gallon while we tiled our house
and put up baseboards. We finally got the living area ready and moved back into
the big tank, that was roughly a month ago.
<This is not long enough for an anemone. They need an established environment, 6
months to a year, with one year being best.>
At that time, we started adding corals, the anemone and the like. We also got
our 2 fish that survived the disaster back; the goby and the blue-green reef
Chromis. Sorry for the long winded explanation. We have all been through a lot
lately.
<I certainly see that!>
This is another reason I'm hoping it isn't Brooklynellosis, because mentally,
I'm still trying to recover from the above.
<I hate to be the one to bring you more bad news, but you will have more issues
in the near future with the anemone. It is best to remove soon and find it a
suitable home.>
Thank you in advance. Dawn
<You’re welcome Dawn! Good luck to you! Brenda>
Clown with
internal bleeding? 7/7/07
Hi Crew,
<Dustin>
Was wondering if you could give me some help identifying this
discoloration in my clownfish. Sad to say it looks like internal
bleeding
<Mmm, yes... sure does superficially>
but I was unable to find information on anything like this on your
website or anywhere else
<Have never seen either>
for that matter so I can't be sure. I've had the clown for over 2 years
now so I am very attached to him and don't want to lose it. Have not
made any major changes to the tank (44 corner) recently. I did however
add 2 purple porcelain crabs and a new damsel about 2 weeks ago (after
QT of course).
Tank itself seems to be doing well.. pH 8.1-8.2...ammonia 0..nitrite
0...nitrates around 15-20.
<This last is getting a bit high... Please see WWM re nutrient export>
Just noticed last night that he had this dark spot in the white
midsection of his body that shows through on both sides.
See attached pictures. Any idea what's wrong with him?
<My best guess from the info. presented is either some sort of physical
trauma from the new Damsel, crabs... or to itself from swimming into
something hard... perhaps with the Nitrates and what they might portend
complicating matters>
Is there any treatment I can pursue?
<Yes... bolstering nutrition (soaking foods in a vitamin and HUFA prep.
like Selcon) and keeping your eye out for negative interactions twixt
tankmates>
I've noticed this morning he hasn't been swimming as much, just staying
near the bottom front corner of the tank and did not eat much. Thanks in
advance if you can offer any help!
Dustin
<Mmmmm, and the usual "default" water changes... Bob Fenner> |
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Split Fin on a Clownfish 5/15/07
Howdy guys,
<Jeff>
I have been looking through the archives you have on the site. What an
amazing resource! In my searching, I haven't come across my particular issue. I
have a pair of clowns that have been alone in my mature tank for 1.5 years now.
The smaller of the two has suddenly developed a split in her left pectoral fin
that seems to be pretty serious.
<A trauma... from another fish... a run-in with the environment?>
The fin is split most of the way down the fin, and it appears to be "rigid." The
fish is barely able to move the fin, and it's always in the "fully deployed"
state. Needless to say, she's sluggish, and shy. She does also appear to be
breathing at a much faster pace than the other clown. As I look at the clowns, I
have noticed that "her" fins appear to have much duller colors than the other
clown.
<You have good vision>
There are no other visible spots, etc. Any idea what this could be?
<Non-pathogenic... a mechanical injury>
Could it be a nutritional problem?
<Not likely>
I have been lazy and skimped on the frozen food, etc. It's been mainly flakes
and dried brine for a while now. Any ideas on what to check, or how to help her
make a recovery?
Thanks,
Jeff
<Likely this pair are tussling... behavior to be expected... Improved, steady
water quality, enhanced nutrition... Oh, have just finished putting in a week
writing a cumulative piece on Clownfish Disease:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/clnfshdisart.htm
and revisiting all the pertinent FAQs... Whatcha think? Bob Fenner>
Got
Man/Woman Trouble? Nope, Clownfish Trouble 11/10/05
Dear Mr. Fenner,
<Yes?>
Two days ago I noticed a super small white something or other around the right gill area of my ocellaris. It is still there. However, yesterday I
noticed a small baby pea size area of barely white (like bruised scales) on the
ocellaris' body between the first white bar and the tail bar. I've also noticed both ocellaris swimming in and out of two caves and thought maybe the
white patch? on its body could be scraped scales (actually hard to see unless you really concentrate).
<Possibly... or the origin thereof>
These ocellaris' are tank raised. Funny thing is, this ocellaris was not very active, sometimes hardly getting "enough" food in
my opinion. Now, he (smaller of the two ocellaris) is very active, swimming around the tank more, and really going for its share of food! I've read
through the FAQs and can't decide on my ocellaris' problem, hence not knowing what
action to take. No velvety look, no white/ick spots, no Popeye.
The other ocellaris is doing fine, swimming and eating. I've had these two ocellaris
now for 2 years with no problems. Other inhabitants of the tank are: l half-dollar size Regal Tang, 2
Chromis, 1 diamond goby, 1 small long nose
hawkfish, 1 cleaner shrimp and 2 RBTA (originally l and then a split :) ). All the
other inhabitants seem to be doing well.
<Yes...>
Tank readings: 77.5 deg., dKH 10.2, Alk. 3.66, CA 410, SG 1.026, pH 8.0/8.1. Water change every week to week-and-a-half 12 to 15 gals. for a 55 gal.
tank. CPR Bak Pak Reef ready skimming tank along with EHEIM 2215 filtering the
tank.
Am worried about my ocellaris and would like to take whatever action necessary to head off anything serious. Thank you for your time and looking forward
to your help/advice.
Marilyn
<Gauging from your stated conditions, types of livestock, the history... I would just try bolstering the immune system of the fish (and all else),
by administering vitamins to the water and food... the former once a week, the latter daily. Bob Fenner> Clown with cracked fins 11/17/05
I have a saltwater tank that is established with healthy fish for over a year. Since the fish are reef friendly, I decided to slowly introduce some
invertebrates. I placed a long tip anemone in the tank a little over a week ago. My maroon clown hosted immediately. He appeared to be a little rough
with the anemone but QUITE happy. In any event, the anemone declined quickly and is dead or at least very close.
<Not uncommon>
My question has to do with the maroon clown who appeared to have developed some white fuzz at the tips of his
bottom fins. He also began to swish his body in the sand upon occasion. Now, the white fuzz appears to be gone from the fins but his lower and rear fins
are split / cracked. What should I do?
<Mmm, not much... if anything... out of the ordinary. Should heal in time>
Could this have been from the anemone?
<Yes, likely related>
Is there anything I can treat the water with? The only other things in the tank are a couple
of gobies, a Pseudochromis, a Kole tang and some xenia.
Thanks in advance,
Frank
<Optimized, stable water conditions, decent nutrition... Bob Fenner>
Maroon Clown Disease/Injury
I have Maroon clown, that I've had for years, with some white fuzz or thick
mucus at the bottom of one of it's gill plates. It's acting normal, not having
breathing difficulties and eating fine, and none of the other fish (Eblii angel,
Orchid Dottyback, Yellow Watchman Goby) are having any problems. It could be an
injury because the Maroon clown gets aggressive with attacking objects in the
aquarium like the heater, snails, hermit crabs, and moves little rocks around.
<Yes... a good speculation>
I also have an Emerald crab that could have pinched the clown and an urchin that
could have skewered the clown if it tried to move it. Please let me know what
you think. I hope I described the circumstances well enough for you. Thanks.
<I'm in agreement with your guesses... and hope that your fish will stay
healthy. Bob Fenner>
Is this an infected clown fish?
Hello,
<Hi there>
One of my three clown fish has developed an infection around the corners of it's
mouth. The other two have not developed any symptoms. Initially there was what
seemed to be an incision on the side of it's mouth which in the last few weeks
has developed into white blemishes. We have tried adding a solution which was
sold to us by our local aquarium for the sole purpose of treating cuts and
abrasions. We don't know the name as shop owner made up the solution. However
this has had little to no effect. The infected skin looks as if it is peeling
off, so we thought the skin could just be healing - yet it hasn't.
<Does sound like a cut/abrasion... and these can take a few weeks to heal>
He is still eating, yet lethargic. Before putting medicine in, his colouring
looked faded, but has now brightened. We are unsure of what to do as it has been
14 days of using solution and overall doesn't seem to have helped. At times I
thought white blemishes were healing, but more just appear.
Thank you Natasha & Simon
<I would add a purposeful vitamin mix to the fish's foods (like Selcon) and
leave off with any "medicine" use here. With time, otherwise good maintenance
this fish should recover. Bob Fenner>
Clobbered Clown? (Damaged Clownfish?)
Hi,
<HI there! Scott F. with you today!>
I was wondering if you guys could offer an opinion on
one of my maroon clowns:
I got two of them just over a month ago; one of them
about an inch and a half and the other a touch bigger.
They squabbled for a few days but after a week or so
I was pleased to see the little guy doing the
shuddering thing and they've now paired off nicely.
I'm a little worried about the male now though. He's
always had pretty ragged looking finnage - at first I
thought it was from the fighting for dominance but it
hasn't improved since they've paired. Upon closer
inspection it actually looks like the fins are
translucent around the edges rather than torn anyway.
<Tough love, huh?>
He also picks up bubbles on his coat quite easily. A
couple of times I've noticed him listing slightly,
although both times he's had a lot of bubbles stuck to
him which I thought maybe was throwing him off balance
slightly? He soon recovered both times and I've
adjusted the venturi on my filter head to eliminate
fine bubbles now anyway.
He spends a fair amount of time at the top of the tank
but doesn't seem to have laboured breathing and
actually sleeps at the bottom of the tank.
<Not uncommon for these fishes. They tend to "nest" in areas in
which they feel comfortable>
He seems happy enough other than that and is eating fine. The
colouring on his torso is fine and there are no spots
or other marks, just the translucent fins. The femaleis absolutely fine and looks great. Am I maybe just
being paranoid? If not, any suggestions?
I'm running a Jewel 240L (60 Gallon) with skimmer,
powerheads and live rock. Nitrite and ammonia are
0.0, nitrate is 2ppm, pH is 8.0-8.3 (depending on
which test kit I use), SG is 1.024, temperature is
24oC. They're the only two fish in the tank at the
moment. I have to admit that a month ago I was not
that clued up with proper quarantine procedures but
know better now.
<Glad to hear that!>
Thanks in advance for any help.
Ryan
<Well, Ryan- I don't think that you're being paranoid. However, do observe
this fish carefully, and maintain excellent water conditions to avoid potential
infection on the damaged fins. If things get worth, it may be time to separate
the male for a while to observe and treat as required. Regards, Scott F>
Cloudy eye... Maroon Clown
hi
i have a problem with my female maroon clown she has a clear bubble like
thing over her left eye only, could you please give me some info on
it?............. please help........ thanks
<Some sort of involvement, opacity on this Clown's eyes... likely
secondary, resultant from a physical trauma like rough netting rubbing
against them or a bump... Are other fishes similarly afflicted? Do check,
optimize your water quality, improve nutrition (soaking foods in a vitamin
mixture like Selcon) and do your best to reduce stress (be on the lookout
for other organism's negative interaction and do NOT add any more
livestock) and this should clear up in a few weeks time. Bob Fenner> |
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Lockjaw clownfish 5/28/03
Hi, my Percula clown fish started playing around my frogspawn's tentacles with
its mouth for about three days then I noticed my Percula sometimes shakes its
head rapidly and opening its mouth until lately the Percula had its mouth
constantly open and its seems like something is hurting her when she tries to
eat and now she doesn't eat anymore. Looks like her mouth is swollen inside.
<could be several things. Something embedded has become infected
(bristles/setae from an eaten polychaete worm, e.g.)... or if you have had the
fish long enough on a limited diet (same fish food(s) without much variety or
fresh fare/frozen/live)... then the fish may be suffering from a dietary
deficiency>
I removed the frogspawn to another tank hoping that my Percula will go back to
her good health again. Is the toxin from the frogspawn tentacles caused that
misery to my Percula clown?
<not likely, although the clown would have killed the frogspawn in time (1-3
year picture) from the unnatural occupancy/repetitive abrasion>
Thank you .....Joe
<best regards, Anthony>
The Eye Has It!
I recently bought a skunk clown after the passing of my porcupine puffer
from not eating for over a month. The clown now after 2 days has one eye
appearing what seems to be gray on the pupil with a bulge. I have read some
facts and do not know if this is something that will go away, infect the other
fish, or have been damaged by my domino that thinks he is king of the tank.
<Well, if it is in one eye, and bulging is the only real symptom, than there
is a high likelihood that it is swelling caused by an injury or other trauma.
Hard to say what could have caused this, but it sounds like your damsel could
have either injured the clown directly, or the clown might have injured his eye
by scraping up against a rock or something?>
I have read about the suggestions for Epsom Salt and do not know if I need to
quarantine the tank to do this. I also have a snowflake eel but he
minds his own business until feeding.
Any suggestions would be great. Thanks, Jen
<I would rather perform this treatment (or any treatment, for that manner!)
in a quarantine or separate aquarium. Epsom salt would probably not cause any
undue problems, but I'd still treat elsewhere! Epsom salt is a very effective
treatment for this malady. Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
Spotty Situation On Clown?
Hi all!
<Hi there! Scott F. with you today>
I hope everyone is doing well. I starting searching the site for an
answer to this question, but it seems to me it's the kind of question that's
tough to do a word search on, as everyone might use different words to describe
it. I tried "chin", and read over a recommended page on
parasites, fungus and etc, but didn't really have any success. I tried a few
other words but came up with nothing. Anyway, I'll get on with it..
I have what appears to be a happy, healthy, hungry Percula Clown (named Pesci),
in my QT tank, and he has something small on his chin. So small, that
I can't be sure what it is, as I can't get a good look at it. He's
only about 1" or so long. I even tried corralling him into the
small acclimation tank, and using a magnifying glass, but once in the accl.
Tank, he just moves too fast to get a good look at. Plus, when he
sees my big fat head on the other side of the magnifying glass, he freaks out
and runs away.
<Can't imagine why that would scare a fish...LOL>
I could try netting him, but I don't know if it's worth the trauma at this
point. You can't even see this "thing" head on, only from his profile.
I didn't notice it at all until I placed a light on the tank. It may
be white, or flesh colored, hard to say, but I think it is not completely
round. He's been in the QT tank for
almost 2 weeks now.
<Good job- keep him in there for the duration>
The water quality has been kept usually at about: AM=0, NO2=.025-.05ppm, and
NO3=.5-.10 ppm., PH=8.2. Had them climb a little recently
(after I noticed the spot/abrasion problem) but water changes brought that more
or less back in line. Overall, I think the water quality is fine, and
the 20G QT tank was set up just as recommended. When I bought him, he
was dipped in freshwater at the store, and then placed in water from their
invert tank for the 1.5 hr ride home. He was acclimated with proper
method before being put in the QT tank.
<Sounds great!>
What I'm wondering is, how do I know if this is just a small, originally unknown
abrasion/birth defect (something like that), or a parasite/fungus
etc? I don't see any other spots anywhere, and he seems fat and happy
in every other way. He is my first fish, and I have gone through
great pains to quarantine, and prevent cross-contamination, so I don't want to
screw this up. If everything is fine, I planned to add him to the
main tank in 2 weeks. Is their something I can do to make sure this
isn't a problem?
<Well, if you suspect something that may be parasitic in nature, I'd consider
more freshwater dips (once or twice a day, for several days). Chances are, this
may be some type of parasite, which can be eliminated without the use of
medication. Keep observing carefully, and take any action that may be
needed>
Any advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for
the long-winded e-mail. I just wanted to give all the info I could
Thank you, Eric
<Eric, it sounds like you're doing a great job! I commend you on your
quarantine process, your keen observation, and your patience. You're on your way
to a really successful experience with your new fishes! Good luck! Regards,
Scott F>
Spotty Situation on Clown? (Pt. 2)
Hi Scott!
<Hello again!>
Thank you for the reply. I have some good news and may have gotten a
bit lucky. After you sent your reply, I fed and observed him, and I'd
swear that spot is smaller (if that's possible). So small that I'm
really not sure that I can even see it.
<Awesome! Sometimes, these traumas simply fade away and heal with your
attention to good water quality>
My eyes may be playing tricks on me. Also, I think I may not have
noticed anything at all, if I wasn't actively trying to see it. (Darn
guy plays and moves so fast it's hard to tell ;-) That being said I think I
might hold off on the dipping. I'm thinking it is of course a great
tool when necessary, but I'm also thinking it has to be at least a LITTLE bit
traumatic, and I don't want to put him through it if it isn't necessary. Would
you agree?
<Absolutely. Although it is a relatively "mild" treatment method,
there is still some trauma associated with it...The whole point of a freshwater
dip is to provide an "osmotic shock" which parasites cannot tolerate
as well as the fishes!>
On another positive note, he wasn't feeding really the first week or so, until I
switched for Formula One flakes (recommended by the nice folks in the chat
room), and then he definitely started to feed over the past week. I
just fed him a small meal this morning, and boy does he go after it with gusto!! He's
crazy about it and has a great appetite now.
<Awesome to hear that! By the way, as a note to our readers, the WWM Chat
Forum provides a great way to interact with your fellow hobbyists. There are
hundreds of talented hobbyists on the forum, who can often provide more support
and feedback on things. I have found this a particularly valuable resource if
you are trying to find out about a new product or technique...>
He even likes it better than frozen Mysis shrimp. I guess that's a good sign,
right?
<Sure is! IMO, any fish that eats is a fish that lives! With good-quality
foods, such as the ones that you are offering, and excellent water conditions,
you'll have a terrific rate of success with fish keeping!>
Thanks again for your help Scott. Pesci thanks you too. Eric
<Fooghheeeet about it! :) Glad to hear that he's doing well! Good
luck! Regards, Scott F>
- Clown with Pop-eye -
Hi I have two Nemo clowns and one of them has his left eye popping out now
and is laying down a lot. Both of them seem to be gasping for air and breathing
very heavy. I am not sure what to do. My salinity is around 1.022 with regular
water changes. Please help I don't want to loose my fish. thank you,
James
<James, the description you provide sounds to me like Exophthalmia or
Pop-eye, which is usually due to some form of trauma to the affected eye,
swelling in response. This can be aided by adding Epsom salts to the system at
about one teaspoon per five gallons of water. This problem will go away on its
own, but will take some time. As for the heavy breathing, you didn't tell me
much about your tank or filtration so it's difficult for me to make a
recommendation. If I were to hazard a guess, I would suggest you start by
improving the aeration.
Cheers, J -- >
Please help!! (Clown with cloudy eye)
Mr. Fenner
I have a 120reef Berlin system that has been up for about 4 years. It is packed with all of the usual
inhabitants, hard and soft corals, 200lbs of live rock, and sand etc. I woke up this morning to find my little clown fish has his right eye all clouded over. My readings as far as calcium alk,
ammonia etc are all great as usual) nothing upset aside from my 10 gal water change
I did
yesterday's always use bottled distilled water for my changes. I am very worried. He is only about 2 inches long and
I have had him since he was a tiny little baby. I have a 18inch saddle anemone for him as
well he loves it) Can you please help me??
<The cloudiness only on one side? Likely this fish just went "bump in the night" and will just as likely cure on its own. Don't panic, don't move it, don't pour anything into the water. Bob Fenner>
Maroon clown mouth problems.
Bob, I have a gold stripe maroon clown, 2 inches plus. Has been in
mature tank for 6 months. Has taken up with a frogspawn coral, for a
surrogate host. Has always been very healthy, but today I noticed that
his mouth appears to be stuck open. The inside looks swollen, almost
like he is having an allergic reaction. He is able to move mouth a
little bit, but has been unable to eat. All other fish in tank are
doing well. All tank parameters are in line, salt concentration at
1.025, water temperature 80F. Any ideas? Should I just let it ride
and see if it passes? Thanks in advance Kevin.....
<I wouldn't change anything. As you suggest, hopefully this "open mouth syndrome" will cure itself. Bob Fenner>
Clown questions
I have a true perc clown and it took a week for it to adapt to the tank, no eating and got real sluggish, I took it back to the store and asked if they would keep it a couple of days till I lowered my nitrate and was told nitrate would not kill it??
<Like the Damselfishes they're so closely related to, Clownfishes do exhibit tremendous tolerance to nitrogen problems... given the specimens start healthy.>
I put it back in the tank and did a water change and it is now eating and really seems to like my in tank thermometer asked the store were I bought it about an anemone for it and was told they like carpet anemone's,????Also it has a swollen eye or one is bigger than the other? any help is needed THANKS
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This species is naturally found in association with Heteractis crispa, H. magnifica, and Stichodactyla gigantea (two of these are listed by
FFExpress), though they may get along symbiotically with other large anemones...
An anemone isn't necessary however, and not advised unless and until you have a well-established system, and know what is involved in their care... not easy.
The pop-eye on one side is usually indicative of a physical trauma... rather than infection, or environmental cause...
Bob Fenner
My poor clownfish.
A little over a week ago my clown jumped into the "bubble box" on my Mombassa skimmer. By the time I found him he was beat up pretty
bad missing scales etc) since my tanks a reef all I did was feed him food soaked in
Selcon for a few days. He looks great but swims head up tail down I think he has swim bladder infection.
Luckily I'm moving to a bigger tank so I will be able to put him in my Q tank. What would be the best way to treat him?
Thanks, Robert
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Really to do about what you're doing... making sure it's getting fed... and providing peaceful surroundings... these sorts of traumas take time to heal on their own... no way to expedite them.
Bob Fenner
Clown peculiar
Hi I'm kind of new to the hobby and recently bought 2 pec clowns. We acclimated them into the tank and everything seemed fine. About two weeks later, we
couldn't find one of the clowns. When we found him he seemed to be just hiding by a rock barely moving. He finally came out and his mouth looks like its infected. It is white all over. The other clown has the same thing, just a small area though. Does this make any sense.
Thanks!
Sincerely, Steve Rubin
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Definitely a bad sign, very bad. Hopefully this animal will turn around for you... this sort of appearance is linked with shipping damage mostly, and is typically fatal. There is a fine line between the damage of catching/manipulating the specimen (typically to dip it or daub a medication on the mouth) and just leaving it be, optimizing water quality, and hoping for the best.
Bob Fenner
Injured Clark clown?
Hi Bob
I have in my 58 gallon Oceanic reef ready tank with oversized Oceanic wet
dry filter and Oceanic Model 3 protein skimmer. I have a 4 inch Pterois
Volitans, two 2 inch Amphiprion Clarkii, 2 inch Abudefduf oxyodon,
<The Lionfish will consume these last four>
3 inch
Centropyge Bicolor, 2 inch Paracanthurus Hepatus and a 3 inch Zebrasoma
veliferum. I also have one medium Hermit Crab and a Condylactis anemone. As
far as water quality, my nitrates are almost nonexistent. The problem I have
is one of the Clarkii's appears to have injured his jaw and he has stopped
eating. There is a reddish spot on the left side of it's jaw that looks like
the skin has been scuffed up. It happened shortly after putting in the
Bicolor but I never saw them fighting. His bottom lip looks swelled up and
he doesn't open and close his mouth like the other one. I think it was an
injury but I wanted to check with you to see if it sounds like an injury to
you or some sort of disease. He still looks healthy otherwise but I know he
won't last long if I can't get him to eat. I tried putting StressCoat but he
hasn't healed up. I love having these beautiful creatures in my house but I
hate the thought of them dying because of some I did or didn't do. I have
read the Conscientious Marine Aquarist ( that's why I used all the
scientific names ) and keep it in my nightstand for reference. My fish all
seem to get along with just the occasional chase and they all have been
eating very well until now. Another question I have is about feeding the
Volitans. I have read to feed every other day ( he eats frozen silversides )<This is fine... your Lionfish will live much longer, happier...>
and was wondering if he will still get to big for my tank.
<Well, the tank is fully stocked... but should be fine...>
I know I am
overstocked somewhat but I do keep a close eye on water quality and have not
had a problem yet.
Thank You
Steve Bolling
<Thank you for writing... and I do share your concern re the Clownfish. This is likely a physical trauma as you suggest... the fish probably bumped into something hard... likely at night... If it doesn't appear to be "self-healing" I would encourage your intervention. Prepare a wet, clean hand towel (no soap residue), and a Cotton Swab (like a Q-tip tm), and a mercury-based topical (e.g. mercurochrome,
Merthiolate, Merbromin) and gingerly net out the Clown, support it on the wetted towel and daub the topical with the swab directly on the fishes sore area. Repeat every two days if the animal doesn't seem to be responding, and do keep offering it a mix of foods daily, including some live if you can secure this. There is good reason to believe this specimen will recover.
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