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FAQs on Fairy, Velvet Wrasses, Genus Cirrhilabrus Identification
2 Related Articles:
Fairy Wrasses, Related FAQs:
Cirrhilabrus ID 1,
Velvet Wrasses 1, Velvet Wrasses 2, Velvet
Wrasses 3, Velvet Wrasse Behavior,
Velvet Wrasse Compatibility,
Velvet Wrasse Selection, Velvet
Wrasse Systems, Velvet Wrasse
Feeding, Velvet Wrasse Disease,
Wrasses, Wrasse Selection,
Wrasse Behavior, Wrasse Compatibility,
Wrasse Feeding, Wrasse Diseases, | 
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A new Cirrhilabrus 2-12-08
Hello, I
am sorry for my long silence. I hope you are fine.
<Do'o tashi mashiite my friend>
I got an unusual Cirrhilabrus species from Indonesian
waters. Two males are here, some 70mm & 75mm long, but the locality
in detail is not known. I
hope some ichthyologist to name it soon, and maybe Allen or Randall
would describe it. They informed me that it should be new.
Now I call it the
'Shark-finned Fairy Wrasse'. With
Best Wishes, Hiroyuki
<Do'omo Tanakasan. Bob Fenner> | 
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ID Please: Cirrhilabrus exquisitus and Syconoid Sponges – 1/28/08
<Hi there!> Can someone please tell me what these are in the attached
photos from my reef tank? They look like some sort of egg sacs, and if
they are sacs of some creature that I don't want in my tank, then I
would just as soon remove them now. If they are something I would like,
then obviously I would keep them. <No worries with these, you can
keep them. They’re harmless, filter feeding sponges in the genus Sycon,
also called Syconoid sponges. For more information/photos, please see
the FAQ's at this link (and related links above):
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/spgidf7.htm > For your info, I have: 1
Naso Tang 1 Foxface Tang 4 clownfish 2 black clowns 1
Snowflake eel 1 Fu Manchu lion 1 yellow angel 1 electric flame
scallop <Very difficult to keep.> numerous snails two tiny hermits
that stowed away with the snails some chromis that disappeared (lion
food?) 2 Wrasse (type unknown, will attach pic also). <Looks like
the Fairy Wrasse Cirrhilabrus exquisitus, commonly called the Exquisite
Wrasse. Considering all those colors, I'd say that it’s a very apt name!
By the way, color can vary depending on place of origin, whether it’s
male or female, etc. Here’s a photo of one for comparison (and lookee
there, it’s Bob’s photo!).
http://wetwebfotos.com/media/medium/1/600_Cirrhilabrus_exquisitusAQ.tif.jpg
More information on this genus:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses/cirrhilabrus/index.htm
> Thank you. <You’re very welcome! Take care. – Lynn> | 
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Australian Scott's Fairy Wrasse 11/27/2007 Hi Bob, <Hey Peg>
I know I told you I'd send a pic of the fabulous Aussie Scott's Fairy
when I could get a good one, and in the event I've not yet forwarded the
pic, I'm attaching one here. He's comfortable in one of the store
display reefs now (180) and draws a lot of attention! He goes 5 to 6"
and has a great appetite. What a wonderful fish. The H.
trispilus/chrysus/cross/hybrid is also doing well and is a stunning fish
whatever he is. :O) Off to do some water changes. Hope this finds you
having a great week! Peggy www.all-reef.com <Thank you my
friend... am out visiting in much warmer Hawaii... Will post with credit
to you. Cheers, BobF>Re:
Australian Scott's Fairy Wrasse 11/27/2007 Hawaii, uh? I'm
jealous. We're looking at 3-5" of snow tonight, and the temp when I
awoke this morning was 3 degrees with a -15 windchill. How's that grab
you? :O) <Low, and very hard... I "like" the snow... can tolerate
(short-term) some cold... but very much prefer the tropics> I've
attached some pics of a very nice piece of Australian coral, a
Duncanopsammia axifuga. They ship a bit poorly but always bounce back
with good care and lots of good food. They're voracious feeders.
<Mmmm, thank you for this... Am thinking of asking how much time you
might have to help us/WWM out... with the more detailed reef
questions... And...> Off to work. Do enjoy the sweet and warm
sunshine of the islands for me! P <I spent many years "on the
floor" in pet-fish retail... and have a high sense of compassion... Am
very pleased to meet up with you, your apparent "great" attitude toward
the work, life. Cheers, BobF>
Re: Australian Scott's Fairy Wrasse 11/28/2007 Hi Bob,
<Peg> Thanks for the good laugh on your comment regarding our
weather. It was very descript. :O) Looks like our snow will not be
upon us until later today. One can't rely too heavily on the weathermen
or women. I prefer the look out the window method. It's more accurate.
<And satisfying all the way around> Perhaps in the future I can make
time to assist on WWM as you suggest. I'm presently a one-woman band in
my store, i.e., chief cook and bottle washer, the sole soul of
proprietorship. <Outstanding... I spent some 14 years on the floor in
pet-fish retail myself... Not an easy job.> I'm flattered to think
you would consider me though. I've been considering sponsorsing at WWM
because it's such an incredible site and offers a plethera of quality
info. Because I essentially detest forums (too many "experts" who
actually know less than those asking for help), <We share this point
of view. I wonder if folks would readily 'listen' to such BBs for other
important matters like their health... To me, an unorganized mix of even
"Dear Abby" quality banter is a waste of time> I have the utmost
respect for you, Calfo, Borneman, Delbeek, and certain others in the
industry who do provide quality information. I do have a boatload of
information stored away in the noggin after almost 18 years of serious
reefing. I anticipate sitting in a retirement home many (hopefully very
many) years from now reciting species names and no one else knowing what
the hell I'm talking about and assuming I've just slipped into dementia.
:O) <Heeee! If I have to go... am going to own the place. Oh, and
we'll have fish tanks aplenty> You are correct about the positive
attitude towards work and life. Always an optimist. I consider myself
extremely fortunate to be pursuing what I love as a livelihood! I was a
paralegal for 22 years in the court system working with many judges and
lawyers. It's obviously a very political environment and over the past
couple of years had worn me down terribly. I finally pulled the plug to
pursue my store full-time just this past August. <Ah, congrats!>
I had been tinkering with it for over a year. Every morning when I wake
up and don't have to suit up and head to the government center, I
realize just how wealthy I truly am. I enjoy helping my customers and
teaching them how to be successful. <Ahhhh!> My motto is if you
don't learn something every time you come into my store, then I haven't
done my job. I've developed a pretty good clientele already and word is
getting out, so I trust the store will survive. :O) Time to get a move
on and get down there. Lots of protein skimmers that need attention and
lots of hungry herbivores awaiting my arrival! I'm still jealous you're
in Hawaii, but I'll be close when I get to my store! :O) <I see>
Thanks again Bob, and make it a great day! Oh, please give my regards to
Charles Delbeek if you happen to visit the Waikiki, which I can't
imagine you wouldn't! He doesn't know I exist, but you can say hello for
me anyway. :O) <Have been e-chatting w/ Charlie re he swinging
over to the Big Island this go... and us getting in some diving,
chatting... We'll see. Cheers, BobF> Peggy www.all-reef.com | 
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Blue Spotted Jawfish / Peacock, Make That, Redspotted Blenny
Compatibility 11/16/07 WWM Crew <Hi Jim, Mich here.> First
and foremost, I have just begun to dive into the huge amount of info on
your excellent site, and just want to say thank you! <On behalf of
Bob and the crew you're welcome!> One year ago I bought a 65gallon
bow-front tank (Old Town Aquarium, Chicago, IL) <Is this the place
with the dedicated reading nook?> and wish I had had this excellent
resource from day one. <I found it a tremendous help when I started
as well.> It has become my preferred casual evening reading:)
<Glad to hear... Is often mine also!> Question: <Answer?> In my
reef tank, I have two percula clowns, 1 fairy wrasse, and a peacock
blenny. <No> Would it be acceptable to add a Blue spot Jawfish ? I am
concerned that the blenny might cause a problem.... <The blenny and
the Jawfish will both spend most of their time on the bottom part of the
tank and may not exactly welcome each other, but like people,
personalities vary. Ideally the Jawfish should be the first fish
introduced. The Jawfish requires a deep sand bed (should be over 3
inches and deeper is better) and a completely covered tank because they
will find the tiniest of holes to escape to drier grounds. More info
here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/jawfishe.htm > I have attached a
picture of the blenny as I am still not 100% on its identity....
<Mmm, the attached picture is of a Redspotted Blenny (Istiblennius
chrysospilos). Not a Peacock Blenny. More info here:
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=6047
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/blennioids.htm > also is attached a
picture of the fairy wrasse, as I would love to be able to get its exact
identity. <Is a Red Scaled Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus rubrisquamis)
you can see more here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/velvetwrfaq2.htm
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/speciesSummary.php?ID=25030&genusname=Cirrhilabrus&speciesname=rubrisquamis
> Thanks for the help! <Welcome!> -Jim B. <Are you part of
the three wise men? Heehee! Mich> |
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Marjorie's Fairy Wrasse photos 4/25/07 Hello,
<Tanaka-san!> How do you do ? I am fine. <Fine my friend>
Here are some photos for your web, and use any of them if you like.
A male of Cirrhilabrus marjorie, 8cm (red & white) and a female, 7cm
(red) from Fiji. They feed on various foods well. Best
Regards, Hiroyuki <Thank you. Will post with credit to you. Bob
Fenner> |  |  |
Cirrhilabrus misidentified... no pic, spaces twixt words, sentences...
Arggggh 6/23/06 Hi Guys and Gals, I love your site!
Anytime I have a question I come here. Many thanks for all you do for
the hobby. Now for the question of the day. I was at the LFS today
and bought a beautiful Cirrhilabrus wrasse that I was told was a female
Cirrhilabrus solorensis. I have a male already and couldn't resist.
The problem is I don't think it's a female Solorensis at all. My male
William) looks just like all the pictures and was very interested in
the one I brought home, circling around the bag, flashing, etc. make it
short, they're fighting now, with the Solorensis chasing the new GUY
around. I have found this fish on your site and would like an ID
,please. The picture of the fish that I got today is the top photo, next
to the selections, on this page:
www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses. It's the background fish, not
the yellow one. I hope it's a female Solorensis, Ut the way they're
acting I suspect it's a male of a different Cirrhilabrus. f I'm right,
what do I do now? <Fix your English... and enjoy them> Should I
remove William for a while ,then try reintroducing him, remodel the
tankette. My tank is 105g with plenty of hiding spots, but William
hunts him down relentlessly. Cohabits are 2 tomato clowns (who so far
don't bother anyone),2 PJ cardinals ,1 bi-color blenny,1 Bluespot
jawfish. Please help me with the ID on this fish so I have an idea if
this will work or not. <Send along pix...>
Thanks so much in advance, Gail <This species has a relatively
narrow range of color variation. Please see fishbase. Do run your
writing through spelling and grammar checkers before sending. Bob
Fenner> Re:
Scott and Solor Fairy wrasse 12/12/05 Marina, Hi, yes
they know I was posting, in fact they were flattered, as the
gentleman in Japan likes your web site and has contributed from what
I understand. If you read the emails, he was flattered. Just
look at the dates of the emails. I did put it in order, except
the one from Fenton (who is friends with the gentleman from
Japan) I put on later as an additional supplement of information
on my questions. I will double check, but I do not think Fenton
cares either. I was named after Carrie Fisher.....(princess Leah
from star wars) My mom liked the name. (I think this was
before she was in movies though.....a friend of a friend of a
friend knew her mom. My daughters name is Leah...couldn't help
myself. Here is a little trivia..... On the first mention of
Princess Leah, when they are about to blow up the planet
Alderan, that captain refers to her as Princess LEE-AH not
LAY-AH. That was the ONLY time her name was said that way, and
it was the first time her character was introduced. So I still
call her Princess Leah............ Take Care, Carrie :)
Female gender > <<To Carrie (Cary is my youngest boy's name),
Bob, James Gasta: I need > help picking these messages apart, as
there seem to be one "question" > email, with Mr. Walsh's
response above the original email, which > appears to be
combined with another person's response. Unfortunately, > I
don't really have the time to try to sort it all out. I'm going to
> move the two messages, along with the one that has the photos, to
my > own folder (this is for James). > As for the exchanges,
do the people you wrote to and who responded > know that this
could be posted publicly? I cannot, in good > conscience, post
something from someone who may not have known this. > For this
second reason I am waiting to hear back, and/or wait for > Bob's
return before posting. > In the meantime, I hope you got your
wrasses covered! (Sorry, I just > can't help myself
sometimes.) Marina>> <<Posting should be fine. Will do. BobF> |
Re: Scott and Solor Fairy wrasse 12/12/05 Hi Bob,
Another email from an informed gentleman about the
wrasses!!! You will enjoy this! <Carrie, Bob thanks you for
sharing. He is on vacation at present but will put into his
folder. (Marina can you do this after posting?) James (Salty
Dog)> Carrie :) Scott and Solor Fairy wrasse
Hi, > Thanks for your kind consideration. > >Thank you
very much for you response! Yes I see that the U.S. >
>aquatics industry is pretty much clueless! Sorry about the
> >misspelling of Solor, I was coping how everyone else was
spelling > >it. > There are many cases that one calls a
species with an inappropriate > popular name. Wrasses
should not be confused with parrotfishes, but > some call
them parrotfishes. > >Pictures 1 & 2 make sense as to being
a female of a Solor fairy > >wrasse! The pictures we have
here in the United States, I didn't > >really agree with,
because females of each species, in my opinion, > >GENERALLY
have SOME similarities. I will post these pictures you >
>have sent on all and any web sites of aquarists I can find!
> Here are some additional photos; #7~ C. cyanopleura, juvenile,
and #9~ > C. solorensis, large female, and #10~ a rare
hybrid of these two > species, male from Bali. As you can
see juvenile of C. cyanopleura > has several to more than
ten fine spots on its dark side, and some > part is
reddish. But tiny specimens are almost identical in >
appearance. > I have been contributing to several sites in
USA and Germany, but > where do you intend to post my pics
? It is exciting to hear and see > mine in the future.
> >As for the Scott's fairy. I just want a female so the male
will not > >loose his color as I have seen and heard of.
Many people spend so > >much money on the Scott's fairy only
to see it fade. Maybe you can > >help me to understand some
of his behavior. > I understand your statement and many
persons did as you wont to do but > some males will lose
their vivid coloration with females of the same >
species. I always keep males of different species together,
some > several species, and no need to keep with females of
the same > species. Surely males may display to mates but
it is rather difficult > to see such display, for most males
are ignorant of females. It is > important that you keep
them as males in the tank. Eighty > percentages of my
males showed their display colorations without any > female
in my tanks until now. Males of many different species of
> Cirrhilabrus will display (not attract) and prepare to
fight. > They always think that they are males. > He
will swim around > >(now in a quarantine tank before putting
him in the large tank) with > >his head completely out of
the water! WHY? (I suspect he is hungry) > It may be
right. My Forcipiger flavissimus (a long-nosed butterfly)
> often showed such behavior while seeking foods. > >I did
finally find some live BRINE shrimp yesterday and I gut loaded
> >them with Kent's ZooPlex and Cyclop-eeze. He ate like crazy,
but he > >is NOT interested in the frozen brine. Maybe
because it is > >"enriched" with things he doesn't like the
smell of. I think maybe > >if I buy freeze dried brine and
soak it in ZooPlex and something > >else (please make a
suggestion) I can get him off the live stuff > >eventually.
I have a friend in the next town that breeds live salt >
>water shrimp, and I have to get some for my Scotts. > I am
sorry; I do not know what kinds foods are sold in your country.
> NOW if I want a > >female, is one enough or should I get 2
or 3? I have a midas blenny > >that seems to mimic the
Scotts, and the Scotts will chase him in > >short bursts
here and there. So maybe the midas will do the job of >
>"pretend female"? Ha ha ha! > No need to get more than
three females, but you should obtain another > male of
scottorum. > If I do buy another "young" Scotts > >fairy
wrasse, I would like to tell the place I got him from to see
> >if they have any females. What would I tell them to look for?
You > >didn't mention of the pictures you sent were all
male.....I assume > >they were. Can you please send a
female, or is the only difference > >the pectoral fin? If
so, would a young Scotts change sex to fit the > >need at a
young age? Should I buy another one and put them together >
>to force a change on one of them or are they born male and
female? > >I know it is a lot of questions, but the online
store I get my fish > >from have a great sale! Only 39.99
From 69.99! > Yes, all my fish are males of C.
scottorum. Although some males have > shorter pelvic fins.
> Here are photos of C. scottorum, young male or large female
(#8). > Its pelvic fins are still short but the
coloration on side is almost > that of males. The length
of pelvic fins is important to tell sex > but as shown in
#9, it is a very large female, not male of C. >
solorensis. In general the fins of females are shorter than
those > in males. Females of the species are shown here
(John Randall > photos (these cannot be posted without his
permission). I have never > seen juveniles or young
females; juveniles are scarcely encountered in > the wild.
> >I really do like the Solor wrasse I have. He is so friendly
and > >eats from my hand! He has NEVER made an attempt to
jump out of the > >tank. I do not intend to spawn, like I
said, just pair both wrasses > >with a female to make them
happy. > Remember, all the Cirrhilabrus and Paracheilinus
species have an > ability to jump out of the tank; no
exception. One of my friends in > Hawaii will try them to
spawn in a large tank. > >Is it at ALL possible for you to
send a worldwide overnight package > >with females of the
Solor or Scotts wrasse? If so, how much? Or do > >you know a
supplier that would in Japan? > There are some shops in
Tokyo and Osaka who will inform me which > species are
imported and then I request them to transport some >
individuals to my home in Miyazaki City, southern
Japan. Scott's > fairy Wrasses are somewhat expensive
fish, around US $ 70-120. I > know dealers in Osaka who
could ship live fish top USA but I will ask > him soon; it
will cost so much by air. > >There are many debates here in
the States as to compatibility with > >wrasses. I would
assume that like Tangs (Naso, hippo/regal, yellow, >
>purple) as long as they are not the SAME genus they can be
together. > > The first Scotts wrasse I received died in 3
days. He/she was not > >healthy. My Solor fairy wrasse
didn't even seem to care the Scotts > >was in the tank. It
was almost like he was happy to have a buddy. > >Are the
Solor and Scotts wrasses compatible? > Yes, of course. >
>At a LFS they have a Scotts (130.00!) with 2 different species
of > >Halichoerus (I know i am spelling that wrong) and they
seem fine. > >Being that the Scotts is a cirrhilabrus, will
he only get along with > >Halichoerus? > The genus
Halichoeres contains many species and they can be kept with
> Cirrhilabrus in most cases. Halichoeres would be divided
into > several genera from now, so all do not share the same
behavior. > >OR...yes one more variable....If I just have a
male of each (Scotts > >and Solor) will the Scotts keep his
color based on competition as a > >male? > Yes, I think
so. > OR would adding females cause each wrasse to "act out"
and > >attack each other. I know I have many questions. If
you want, > >after each of my questions, put in parenthesis
a response (see what > >I did to your email to see what I
mean) > There may be fight or no trouble; I have no idea
which would be > right. Provide them with LESS hiding
places at first. Introduce > them at once and before it I
recommend you to hold them in a bucket > for 30 minutes with
aeration. > >I really really appreciate you taking the time
to help me out!!!!! > >I am looking forward to your
response! > I do not think that all my replies are strictly
right. I have been > keeping them for over 15 years and now
I am writing a book on the > genera Cirrhilabrus, Conniella
and Paracheilinus. > All The Best, Hiroyuki |   |   |  |
New Wrasse Species...Or Typo? Cirrhilabrus bathiphilus vs.
Cirrhilabrus bathyphilus 10/17/05 Hello there, <Hi there!
Scott F. with you today!> Hope all is well, I believe I purchased a
Cirrhilabrus bathiphilus today, not to be confused with Cirrhilabrus
bathyphilus which I also purchased today. Unfortunately there doesn't
seem to be much information regarding this particular fish. I've gone
through a couple search engines and it appears the only info available
is a brief description on your fairy wrasses page, this is also the only
photograph I've been able to find as well. I've also checked
fishbase.org with no luck. Is there any direction you can point me in to
find some more information regarding this wrasse? I can't even find a
common name for it. Thank you, Gabe Hernandez <Well, Gabe- you've
got me kinda stumped on this one, too! I checked a lot of ichthyological
sources on line, and it may be that there is simply no valid species
called "C. bathiphilus". I noticed that the type specimens for C.
bathyphilus were described in 2002 by B.H. Nagareda and John Randall,
per the Bishop Museum (HI) website and fishbase.org. Curiously, our
description and photo of what we are calling "C. bathiphilus" look just
like the specimen of C. bathyphilus on fishbase.org, and also indicates
that the species was described by Nagareda and Randall in 2002.
Coincidence? I suspect not. I'm gonna take a hunch and think that we may
have a typo on our site...Could be one in the same...Bob, what say
you...? Regards, Scott F.>
Cirrhilabrus lubbocki/Lubbock's Wrasse - 10/12/05 Wanted you
to see this wrasse that I have in QT. I am not sure what type of
fairy wrasse this species might be. I am interested in learning
about the species before entering into my established reef tank.
Some interesting about the fish is when excited it get blue spots on
its face and distinct blue banding on its body. Normally this fish
expresses yellow dorsal, anal and pectoral fins tail fin is tapered
, body is reddish with purple blotches. Any idea? Regards, Bob
Dreggy, Kingwood, WV. <<Hi Bob... What you have there is
Cirrhilabrus lubbocki, or the Lubbock's wrasse. It's a beautiful
and delightful little "Fairy" wrasse who's coloring can be quite
dramatic as you've witnessed, and will vary slightly between
specimens. They feed primarily on zooplankton and will do quite well
on mysis shrimp, chopped krill, frozen plankton, etc...mine will
even eat flake and pelleted food. They are fairly hardy and
peaceful, can be kept with other peaceful wrasses/fishes, and will
attain a maximum size of about 3". Regards, EricR>> | 
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New photos will be sent 9/4/05 Hi Bob, <Greetings Hiroyuki!>
I am sorry for my long silence. <Doh itashi mashiite> Hers is a
new comer to my home, Cirrhilabrus adornatus , male, 55mm from
Sumatra. I call it the Adorned Fairy Wrasse. <Very nice> Now I
have a new CD to you of marine fishes in JPEG, and another on Fairy and
Flasher Wrasse, latest version with 1000 photos. I will send them
tomorrow. All The Best, Hiroyuki Hiroyuki Tanaka, MD
www.myclinic.ne.jp/jinguh <Thank you my friend. Bob Fenner> | 
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Wrasse i.d from your site 7/14/05 Hi Bob - <Rebecca> I¹m
hoping you can clear up for me the identification of the fish in the
very top photo on this page. I¹m confused about Whether it is
supposed to be attached to the post just above it... By Hiroyuki. I
think he¹s talking about a different fish.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/velvetwridfaqs.htm I have a fish
identical to this one, and believe it to be C. bathyphilus; a
different color morph of which is shown at the bottom of the same
page. Are they both C. bathyphilus? Thanks for any help you can
provide. best, Rebecca <Mmm, methinks this is a Cirrhilabrus
rubrisquamis pic my Tanaka-san. BobF> |
Re: Wrasse i.d from your site 7/14/05 Hi Bob - <Rebecca>
Thanks for your quick response. Sorry... I was mistaken I'm not
asking about the photo at the very top of that page (which is C.
rubrisquamis indeed). I'm curious about the photo just below
Hiroyuki's post entitled "C. Adornatus." Sorry for the error.
Thanks again, R <Uhh, sorry re the mix-up... from what I see
on fishbase.org this is definitely not C. adornatus... but Google
Images does show a male to be what you surmise: C. bathyphilus...
Unfortunately... I know naught otherwise. Bob Fenner> |
Re: Wrasse i.d from your site 7/14/05 O.K... Good enough.
I did the same search and got the same results. That C.
adornatus post on that page really confused me though!
Best, r <Thank you for helping clear this up... to at
least this point! "May Dr. Randall name a Velvet/Fairy Wrasse in
your honour!". BobF> | Re: Wrasse i.d from
your site 7/14/05 From your mouth to Dr. Randall's ears!
Attached a shot of my fish, FYI. Thanks so much once again.
r <Ah ha! A beauty. Thank you, Bob Fenner> | 
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