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FAQs on Fairy, Velvet Wrasses, Genus Cirrhilabrus
Compatibility Related Articles:
Fairy Wrasses,
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Velvet Wrasse Identification,
Velvet Wrasse Behavior,
Velvet Wrasse Selection,
Velvet Wrasse Systems,
Velvet Wrasse Feeding,
Velvet Wrasse Disease,
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Wrasse Selection,
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McCosker's Flasher Wrasse with Cerith and
Nassarius snails. - 07/19/08
Hello Crew!
Let me start by saying thank you for the excellent job you do! Now for my
question. I want to know if the McCosker's Flasher wrasse and Carpenter Wrasse
will be compatible with my clean up crew? I have read on several online
retailers web sites that this fish is "Reef safe" and will not harm inverts. Is
this true?
<Almost always the case, yes. Cirrhilabrus and Paracheilinus species by and
large feed on "off the bottom" zooplankters>
I really enjoy the work that my Nassarius, Cerith and Nerite snails do. They are
excellent little scavengers and I don't want to add anything to the system that
is going to hunt them down and kill them. The system is a 105 Gallon Half
hexagon with a 35 Gallon sump/refugium with Chaeto and Macro growing in the
refugium. 4-5" DSB in display tank and refugium, ETSS Reef Devil Skimmer, 1/4 hp
Chiller, Mag 18 Return pump with 3x 1/2" water outlets, 4x65watt PC's and
approximately 65 Lbs of Live rock. The system is cycled and about 2 months old.
I purchased a kit of Copepods and amphipods along with only snails for the clean
up crew. My goal is to research all the fish prior to purchasing them so that
everyone gets along in a nice little community. Are there any Gobies or blennies
that you might also recommend that will not feed on my clean up crew.
<Many... see WWM re...>
Thank You so Much! Mario from Rancho Cucamonga, Ca.
<Welcome, from BobF in very VOGy Kailua Kona>
Labrid comp. 7/12/08
Hi all,
This one will be real quick. What is your opinion on keeping a Sixline Wrasse,
and some sort of Fairy Wrasse in the same 75 gallon tank?
Thanks,
Marc
<Likely enough room for all here... The Lined staying in and amongst rock, the
Cirrhilabrus up and about in the mid water. Bob Fenner>
Cirrhilabrus/Paracheilinus
compatibility/harem size 2/16/08
Good morning WWM Crew,
<RA>
Well, I've been thinking a lot about what exactly I'm going put in my 86g (48"L
x 16"W x 26"T). I've been thinking about getting a harem of the smaller (3")
wrasses of either of the above genera.
First off, would these fish be compatible with a pair of maroon clowns and a
BTA?
<Mmm, possibly... in a system of this size, shape... there's a very real poss.
that a Premnas would kill other fishes in time>
My tank is tall, and the top of the live rock barely extends past the bottom
half of the tank, giving plenty of open room for the wrasse.
Second, how large are harems in the wild generally?
<Of the above genera, species? Usually dozens of individuals... some lower
"caste" males perhaps only with a few females per>
I'm trying to form a biotope, so I'm avoiding all fish that only school/group in
very large numbers. How many wrasse could I keep in my tank?
<Not many... perhaps a handful here>
Well, thanks for reading this. Your crew has been very helpful with me and my
countless hypothetical questions.
TIA,
Random Aquarist
<Welcome. Less random BobF>
Re: Cirrhilabrus/Paracheilinus
compatibility/harem size 2/17/08
So, I'm guessing it would be best to not mix maroons with wrasse.
<We are in agreement>
However, I still like the idea of mixing clowns and wrasse. What
BTA-hosting clowns would be compatible with a harem of wrasse?
<Smaller, easier-going species... particularly tank-bred/reared...
Ocellaris, true Perculas... at the top of my choice list. Bob Fenner>
R6: Adding Another Wrasse To My Tank (Not
Going to Be Easy) – 02/17/08
Lights are back on and the Sixline is after the Solar again, seems like he’s
on a mission.
<<Mmm, yes…can be relentless>>
Even when the Solar Wrasse finds a hiding place the Sixline relentlessly
searches for it. When he finds it he chases around the tank at full speed until
a new hiding spot is found... this cycle has repeated itself several times but
so far no one seems hurt. Will this settle down in time and if so what signs
should I look for?
<<Less chasing about>>
If not, how long do I wait to try and remove one of the two, which would be
decided by which one I can actually catch.
<<Sometimes these introductions just don’t work out… If the Solar wrasse does
not/can not feed, if any physical trauma occurs beyond a nipped fin, or if the
“incessant” chasing does not stop in a couple days…I would remove one of these
fishes. EricR>>
R7: Adding Another Wrasse To My Tank (Not Going to Be Easy) – 02/18/08
Solar is hiding for the last 8 hours or so under some rock and the Sixline
seems a little less interested in finding it then before.
<<Mmm…maybe a glimmer of hope>>
I also re-aquascaped part of the tank to hopefully disorient the Sixline a bit
and enforce a truce while they all laid low.
<<A good move>>
An hour or so after I finished, the Sixline did find the Solar Wrasse in its
hiding spot but just swam up to its face and stared it down for a while. This
time Solar didn't make a run for it but instead just backed in deeper after the
Sixline left. Hope this is a good sign since I really like both fish. All that
being said, how long should I wait to see if the Solar comes out and feeds
before getting concerned?
<<Hard to say, Danny… If the fish was introduced shortly after arrival at the
LFS then it likely hasn’t fed much for days already, if at all, and is in a
weakened state from the stresses of capture and transport and will need to feed
soon in my opinion (within the next couple days). If this fish was quarantined
and feeding/fed well before introduction then it can go a bit longer. EricR>>
R8: Adding Another Wrasse To
My Tank (Not Going to Be Easy) – 02/20/08
Eric,
<<Danny>>
A quick update...
<<Thank you for this>>
The Solar had been spending the last 2 days hiding under the rocks but I could
see him through the bottom of the tank to monitor his vitals.
<<I see>>
This evening a gave the gang Mysid shrimp with some Selcon for added impact and
the Solar came out in seconds!
<<I’m sure it must be hungry…>>
However, the Sixline was on his case right away.
<<Mmm, can be true “beasties”…much belied by their size/popularity in the
hobby>>
I managed to keep the Sixline at bay by using my net to distract / scare him
back and that allowed the Solar a chance to gulp down a half dozen or so Mysids.
<<A good strategy…is “very” important that this fish be able to feed/gain
strength. I am impressed and pleased with the lengths you are willing to go to
in the interest of this fish>>
After feeding and the Sixline persisting in his chase attempts the Solar went
back under the rock. To me this is a big step, since at least he's shown a
desire to eat...
<<It is a plus, but even though it appears there has been no physical trauma to
the Solar Wrasse, the psychological stress imposed by the Sixline does have a
deleterious effect>>
And, if I can entice him at least 1-time a day to eat there may be some hope.
<<If the Sixline Wrasse is not pursuing the Solar Wrasse in to its hidey-hole as
they most often do, maybe so>>
You never know, maybe the Sixline will get used to his presence over time or the
Solar might stand his ground.
<<Habituation is a possibility…but don’t ever expect these two fishes to be
“friends”…I expect there will always be a bit of chasing-away to some extent>>
I also want to thank you for listening (reading) and always responding.
<<No worries mate…is what we do!>>
Being new to this fascinating hobby it's good to have some place to get
impartial advice from people who are doing it for the love of the hobby too!
Danny
<<Ah yes, it is truly our desire to have you/folks like you succeed in the
hobby. EricR>> |
Wrasse & Jawfish?
Cirrhilabrus comp. 12/10/07
Good morning/evening/afternoon?
<AM here/Hawaii now>
I bought a 2.5" wrasse a week ago. He's in quarantine (glass bottom with a
single 14lb piece of liverock) hiding on me but seems to be doing well...
feeding, etc.
Being smaller and not being able to get a great look at him to distinguish, I
figure he's one of the following 3 species:
Cirrhilabrus luteovittatus, Cirrhilabrus rubripinnis, Cirrhilabrus tonozukai
<Neat fairy, velvets...>
He definitely has a more burgundy tinge to his coloration but I haven't been
able to notice any blues/greens on his sides.
<This genus' members are highly variable per species at times... see
Fishbase.org>
In any event, I bought the little guy as a peaceful addition to my 90g reef
tank. I have about 100lbs of live rock and some soft corals. I introduced a Kole
Tang recently, already have a yellow-tailed blue damsel and two yellow-headed
Jawfish. I've read that these wrasses are very peaceful and so are the Jawfish,
however thought I'd ask the question... should the wrasse fit in nicely with the
jaws?
Thanks,
Dave
<I think so... will likely be "high above" them in placement most all the
time... Bob Fenner>
Re: Wrasse & Jawfish? More
comp.... 12/10/07
Sorry for the added email... I was able to coax the wrasse out of her hiding
place.
<Likely a him...>
Given the red to burgundy coloration and a single black dot higher up towards
the tail, from your pictures I'd venture a guess that the wrasse is Cirrhilabrus
tonozukai. The dealer also called it a Fairy Wrasse.
<This is a common name for the entire genus>
Dr Foster's website would indicate that this wrasse would be compatible with
Jawfish? and every website I saw mentioned that these are very peaceful wrasses
ideal for community tanks. So I'm guessing they would be a decent match for the
Jawfish?
<Should be>
Secondly, I do have hermits, a serpent star, a tuxedo urchin, soft corals, and a
coral banded shrimp. Would any of these be of concern as far as being eaten by
the wrasse?
<No>
While I still have your attention... I have a slightly larger than golf ball
size tuxedo urchin. At the moment, he's sitting in the middle of my soft coral
polyps... would you expect any harm to be done?
<Possibly... I would move it. RMF>
Wrasses for my 58??
Bring on The Wrasses! (Stocking Question) - 11/20/07
Hello WWM crew
<Hi there! Scott F. here today!>
First, kudos to you for all the wonderful information and help you give out on a
daily basis.
<Well, thank you kindly! Proud to have been associated with this group for over
5 years. We have amazing people whose love for this hobby and aquatic life is
inspiring!>
I have a 58 RR that is LPS dominated, mainly with Acans/Micros.
<Ahh- you're one of THOSE people! Just kidding- they are beautiful corals! I
just laugh because some of the hype that's been attached to them of late.>
I currently have 1 Green Banded Goby, 1 Yellow Neon Goby, 1 Red Head Goby 1
small Royal Gramma and 2 Wheeler's Watchman Gobies.
<Wow! A great assemblage of some of my favorite little fishes! Sounds sweet!>
I would really like to add a wrasse to the tank. I was thinking about 2-3
Carpenter's Flashers or McCosker's in the same numbers. Would this work with my
current fish list?
<I believe that this could work fine. The smaller Fairy and Flasher wrasses will
make fine tankmates for the fishes that you have, and their colors will be
stunning, complimenting your coral collection!>
If need be I have another home for the Royal Gramma.
<This fish would be my only concern. There is a slight possibility that the
Gramma will not be as friendly as we'd like. However, the Gramma generally
occupies a different strata within the water column of the system than the
wrasses do, and may not be an issue. Observe carefully and intervene if needed.>
Would this work?? If not could I add one wrasse instead of 2-3?
<I think that these wrasses are more comfortable, and display better in small
groups. I would not go solo.>
Everything I am reading sounds like they are happier and have a better survival
rate if housed in small groups.
<Cue "Twilight Zone" theme- you read my mind!>
Thanks in advance for any help/direction you might be able to give me
Patrick
<You sound like you're on the right track! I'd love to see pics of this tank
when everyone is settled in! Good luck! Regards, Scott F.>
Solar Fairy
Wrasse...Compatibility/Pairing – 10/10/07
Hi,
<<Hello Joel>>
I have a 3" or so Solorensis (aka Solar, aka Painted, aka Clown Fairy) Wrasse.
<<Ah yes...Cirrhilabrus solorensis. Very nice little fish>>
It is looking female, gorgeous fish. I want a male, too.
<<Okay...though it might be best to obtain another female and let the dominant
individual “turn”>>
I've seen them paired in tanks successfully.
<<Indeed, this can be done...and the bigger the tank the better re>>
But when I got this one, no second fish was available. I have two options that I
can see:
1. Get a small juvenile. What are the odds it (or this one) will go male?
<<Pretty good>>
2. Get a male roughly the same size as the one I have. I found one for a great
price, beautiful specimen.
<<A bit risky if the specimen you already have has started making the change to
becoming male. You would need to be very sure...>>
Would this be stupid?
<<Could be problematic...as stated>>
Will they fight to the death if they are the same size?
<<Not usually, if of differing sexes...but there are no guarantees>>
Or I suppose the 3rd option -- forget it having added this one already, there is
no hope for keeping two. But I don't want to hear that!
<<Is worth a try I think if you can obtain a female for certain...and have a bit
of patience. And it will certainly help things if you can remove the one you
have to quarantine for a day or so and introduce/reintroduce the pair to the
display together>>
Thanks,
Joel
<<Regards, EricR>>
Re: Solar Fairy
Wrasse...Compatibility/Pairing – 10/11/07
Thanks.
<<Welcome>>
How long does it usually take if 2 females for one to go male?
<<Is variable between genera, species...and can be dependent upon/effected by
environmental factors...but likely 1-3 months>>
Mine is showing NO signs of going male, and I got that male from the shop and
added it 2 days ago (it was get it or lose it time!). They seem totally
disinterested in each other (no fighting), and both eating well, fat. I think it
will be ok in the end.
<<Sounds as though... EricR>>>>
Fortunately, the store I got the male from QTs for 4 weeks before selling and I
got it out of QT.
Aggression in fairy wrasses
7/25/07
Hello Crew,
<Lisa>
Have you had any experience of really aggressive/territorial fairy wrasses?
<Oh yes... Cirrhilabrus are definitely such amongst conspecifics...>
I have a 2.5 inch long, well-fed male redfinned fairy wrasse, who is beautiful
and comical, yet has developed a real attitude problem.
Within a couple of months of being introduced to my 300L reef aquarium, he has
metamorphosed from a shy retiring individual to a bit of a thug!
I suspect he took out two small blue reef Chromis not so long ago during
hit-and-run dashes, and he has now started flashing and flaring at, and
attempting to hit my percula clown pair (2 inches), who were recently returned
to the tank after illness. He spent a number of his early days in the tank
sucking up to my yellow tang, and the two are now best buddies. The tang (3.5
inches) sometimes tries to protect the clowns by getting in between them and the
wrasse, but at other times he and the wrasse gang up and maraud around the tank
as a team. The only other fish inhabitants are a sixspotted goby pair (2
inches), who keep to their area at the bottom of the tank, happily sifting sand
all day long.
They can fend for themselves, and seem to scare away the wrasse when he tries to
start on them. Their only real issue with the wrasse is that they spend all day
digging out a bed under a rock, and as soon as the lights go out, the wrasse
comes along and forcibly ejects them from their bed and settles in himself,
weaving his mucus cocoon! They have now taken to preparing several beds each
day, so they know that they will have somewhere to sleep!
I would say that this was an issue with the wrasse disliking fish of a similar
colour to himself, but I have also witnessed him harassing bright blue reef
Chromis.
<Mmm, maybe it can't see itself...>
He even sometimes flares at me when I am peeking in at him, and has been known
to nip my fingers when I reach into the tank. I thought that fairy wrasses were
supposed to be relatively peaceful creatures, when kept away from 'their own
kind',
<Usually so>
and I am beginning to suspect that mine is a psychopathic exception to the rule!
Do you have any tips or hints, or do you think I should prepare myself for
Marley's (Marley the wrasse, geddit?!)
<Shades of Charlie Dickens!>
return to the store?
Many thanks for your tireless work and help,
Lisa
<Maybe this or the addition of a couple of females... BobF>
Leopard and Fairy Wrasse Together? - 03/10/07
Hope all is well crew.
<<Doing fine, thank you>>
My question for today is would a leopard wrasse get along with my yellow sided
fairy wrasse.
<<Is likely, yes>>
The tank is a 90 gallon reef.
<<Too small really...do you have a large and mature in-line refugium to help
provide a ready supply of foodstuffs for these little understood and often quite
difficult to feed fishes?>>
I really like the potters leopard wrasse.
<<A beautiful fish>>
But all are Beautiful.
<<Indeed>>
What Leopard would you suggest?
<<None are easy...all are delicate shippers and fussy to get to feed. The
majority (80%?...maybe more?) don't survive more than a week or so after
capture. If you can find one that is already feeding on Mysis and/or New Life
Spectrum pellets (the latter is important for long-term health in my experience)
then you may have a chance of keeping one of these amazing fishes alive. But if
you have any doubts...either in the health/vitality of the fish or your ability
to provide for its long-term well-being...do please pass it up for a more
suitable species. Regards, EricR>>
Mixing a Lineatus and Hawaiian Flame Wrasse -
02/21/07
I have a 90 gallon tank with no fish in it yet. I just purchased a C.
lineatus wrasse, but won't receive it until next week. I also would
like to purchase a Hawaiian Flame wrasse for the same tank.
<<Both beautiful fishes...and pricey too!>>
Would these two fish get along.
<<Is possible, yes. I have kept mixes of flasher/fairy wrasses before
with little problem regarding interspecific aggression, though in a much
larger system. I suggest you introduce these two (after quarantine) to
the tank at the same time to eliminate the problems associated with the
tendency of the first fish introduced to "lay claim" to the tank. The
availability of plentiful hiding places will also help should aggression
initially be an issue. And do take in to consideration these fishes
tendency to jump out of the tank. In my experience this is most likely
when/if the tank should suddenly "go dark." You can't do much about
sudden power outages, but be sure to have your lights on timers and
consider using low-wattage fluorescent (even actinic) bulbs to try to
"ease" the transition from light-to-dark>>
I have 100 lbs of live rock in the tank, eventually it will be a SPS
reef tank.
<<Sounds good...a nice environment in which to showcase these lovely
fishes>>
Thanks, John
<<A pleasure to share. EricR>>
Fish Compatibility, Cirrhilabrus 1/14/07
Crew
<Hey Mike, JustinN with you today.>
I have wanted a Flame Wrasse Pair for some time. I have the opportunity to pick
up a pair in the 3 to 4 inch range for the male. However, I am concerned about
compatibility with my current fish inventory.
<Good for you to research ahead of time, I commend you for this.>
I have an established 110 mixed SPS LPS reef system. Currently my fish
inventory is 1 blue hippo tang (fairly large), 1 yellow banded maroon clown
(fairly large), 2 assessors, 1 red velvet wrasse, 1 mandarin goby and 7 blue
chromis reef fish.
<Ok>
I know there are no guarantees.
<Of course, fishes are still individuals.>
However, I would like your opinion on compatibility issues particularly with one
wrasse and a couple of larger long time tank residents already in the system.
Thanks, Mike
<Well, Mike, I see nothing that leads me to think that this mix would not work.
As you stated, no guarantees can be made as individual specimens have individual
temperaments, however, I think that with proper quarantine and assuming that you
have sufficient hiding places provided, these beautiful wrasse will be a
wonderful addition to your reef. Hope this helps! -JustinN>
Cirrhilabrus wrasse compatibility 11/27/06
Bob,
<Hey Jonathan, JustinN here with you today>
I was just wondering if these two fish would be compatible in my 46 gallon reef
set up: Cirrhilabrus solorensis and Cirrhilabrus scottorum. I already have the
Cirrhilabrus solorensis in the tank and was interested in adding the
other. Currently in the tank I have a pair of clowns and a yellow watchman
goby.
Let me know. Thanks!
Jonathan
<Mmm, in a larger setting, I would think they would work without problems.
However, I think there would just not be enough room for two fish with an
ultimate adult size of about four and a half inches. Hope this helps you!
-JustinN>
Ruby Head Wrasse, Cirrhilabrus comp. 11/24/06
Hi,
<Hey Terri, JustinN with you today.>
I just purchased another Cirrhilabrus cyanopleura, or Ruby Head Wrasse.
I wanted a companion for the first Ruby Head, and from what I've been reading,
species of Cirrhilabrus are compatible. The newcomer is getting a severe beating
from the first wrasse.
<Mmm, to be expected somewhat. These fish are typically not tolerant of other
males, and will fight voraciously, until the less dominant is either submissive,
or on its way to changing back to a female.>
What do you recommend? The tank is a 240, so there should be plenty of room for
each wrasse to claim it's own space. Should I purchase another wrasse, to divert
attention from this one? I like wrasses so this would not be a problem. Would
rearranging the rocks help?
<Rearranging the rockwork may help, but honestly, my suggestion would be to
return the second Cirrhilabrus cyanopleura back to the LFS in exchange for
another species of fairy wrasse. The difference in color and appearance should
break up the hostility you currently see.>
The first wrasse, until now, has been the sweetest and most docile fish in the
tank. Fish include damsels, chromis, two tangs, two clowns, two angels. My other
recent purchase was a juvenile Koran angel, who gets along with everyone.
<Sounds very nice>
Thanks!
Terri
<As stated previously, while species of Cirrhilabrus can be compatible, its
often hard to strike that balance when they're both of the same species and both
male. Hope this helps you! -JustinN>
Re: Ruby Head Wrasse comp. 11/25/06
Hi,
<Hey again, Terri>
I originally had a male and female, but the female jumped out of the tank
recently, didn't notice until too late, and I wanted to get another wrasse for
the first one. All open spaces have been tightly secured too.
<Ah, I see.>
> My other recent purchase was a juvenile Koran angel, who gets along with
everyone.
> <Sounds very nice>
I like this guy, seems very friendly and intelligent.
> <As stated previously, while species of Cirrhilabrus can be compatible, its
often hard to strike that balance when they're both of the same species and both
male. Hope this helps you! -JustinN>
Thank you, JustinN! I ordered this one from the web, and didn't think to specify
a female. Didn't realize two males of this species would not get along,
Terri
<Well, Terri, you could always just 'stay the course' as the saying goes, and
see how things work out with the fairy wrasse. They are thought to be sexually
dichromatic, and given time and space (which you obviously have) the submissive
should eventually revert back to female. Hope all works out for you! -JustinN>
Wrasse/Cirrhilabrus Compatibility - 08/03/06
Dear WWM,
<<Good Morning>>
We have a six-line wrasse, a yellow finned female fairy wrasse, a twin-spot or
clown coris wrasse, and a red head solar or clown fairy wrasse. With regards to
the twin-spot we did not know what we had until we brought it home and looked it
up (we typically do not buy anything without doing this first but this one time
we did, so...).
<<Mmm, yes...impulse buying...most all have been there/done that. You since
have learned this fish will grow to be a bruiser/will eat your other fish,
perhaps returning it is in order?>>
The yellow finned female fairy wrasse keeps chasing the red head Solor or clown
fairy wrasse. We are considering getting
another clown fairy wrasse (to possibly stop getting the one we have now chased)
but I read that males can be aggressive within their own species so that may not
be the best thing to do. What is your opinion on this and is there a way to
tell a male from a female clown fairy wrasse?
<<The "fairy" or "flasher" wrasses are not "gentle" fishes as the name might
imply. Keeping multiples is usually limited to keeping single specimens of
interspecifics together, or keeping a male and "several" females (to "spread"
the male's attentions). Even then, some bickering may occur among
interspecifics until a "pecking order" is obtained. And like most all fishes,
my experience with wrasses has been that the species most similar in size/color
will fight the most with the larger species ignoring the smaller
species...unless their big enough to eat them, of course. As for sexing
Cirrhilabrus solorensis, to be honest I don't know...I'm not even sure this
species is sexually dimorphic>>
We are also considering getting a yellow coris wrasse and a radiant wrasse.
<<By "yellow coris wrasse" do you mean Halichoeres chrysus? An excellent and
relatively peaceful aquarium fish in my opinion, though I do wish folks could
get away from calling this fish a "coris" wrasse. I think "canary" wrasse is
more suitable/descriptive of its nature...but enough of my rant>>
Do you think we will have any trouble if we add these? Our
current tank is a 210 gal. and we are considering buying a 500 gal. from our
local saltwater shop as he is downsizing and if so will move everyone into this
tank.
<<Even with the 210 I think you're fine, as far as bio-load. But I do have
concerns with the six-line and the twin-spot wrasses. These may make it
difficult to add future specimens. The six-line looks small/cute enough, but
can be real monsters. I have seen these kill newly introduced wrasses of
similar size...even in very large systems>>
I would also like to say that we have struggled with Goniopora but either our
tank is extremely established or squirting it with phytoplankton from a turkey
baster is doing the trick.
<<Mmm, a difficult species for anyone...Most don't survive their first few
months, those that do rarely make it a year...probably best left in the ocean
until we learn more about it/its care>>
We bought a small $10 one and it is doing wonderful, puffing out all over the
place since I have been squirting it. I feed it every other day. Maybe this
will help someone else if they are having trouble.
<<I do hope yours continues to prosper>>
Thank you guys <<and gals>> so much for this website and all of your insight on
the saltwater world.
<<We're all happy to help>>
It is extremely difficult to find people willing to help and with the experience
and knowledge that you have.
<<Is indeed a cumulative effort>>
Best regards,
Marc & Belinda Barry
<<Cheers, Eric Russell>>
Fairy Wrasse... feeding, compatibility 5/14/06
Hello,
<Hi there>
First of all, I would like to thank you for all of your support over
the years. I would also like to ask a question, I have recently run into the
problem of newly acclimated fish, fairy wrasses in my case, being scared away
from food by competition. In my case the competition is a powder blue tang,
sailfin tang, and a juvenile Chrysurus. I just lost a gorgeous lineatus wrasse
to this unfortunately.
<Happens... Cirrhilabrus are not bold competitors, as you mention>
He was around five inches long so it wasn't like he was a baby trying to compete
with the guys. Which brings me to my question, I have heard of people using
acrylic containers with holes in them to give the new tankmates time to adjust
and get used to feeding in the tank with competition. So would you recommend
this and if so, where would I find a contraption like this.
<Might prove useful, you'd have to either fashion this/them or have an
acrylic/plastics shop do it for you. Not made commercially>
But if you do not, I would appreciate if you could instill some other sort of
information about possible techniques upon me. Thank you very much for any help
that you can give me.
Regards,
Dave
<Different temperaments/compatibilities, different tanks... Bob Fenner>
Cirrhilabrus Wrasse Compatibility with Hermit Crabs 3/3/06
Thank you WWM Crew for all your past advice.
Two of my Red Legged Hermit Crabs (Paguristes cadenati) disagree with the
common fact that Cirrhilabrus Wrasses are "Reef Safe."
<Heee heee... who's "right?">
My Social Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus rubriventralis) must have gotten bored and
ate up some free-range fish food.
<Yee hah! Get along little anomurans!>
It was no great loss (But a great show.)
I post this experience just so others can know and so they will not get
terrified if one of there Cirrhilabrus Wrasses takes down a tank mate.
<Thanks>
One thing, he has never eaten one of the Blue legged hermit crabs (Clibanarius
tricolor) ???
<Not as tasty? Might if hungry enough. A point in lesson here: "All animals, as
species, individuals are only to some degree "safe" or no"... Thank you for
sharing. Bob Fenner>
Cirrhilabrus Wrasse Compatibility - 2/11/2006
I am looking to add a trio of Flame Wrasses (1 male and 2 females) to a tank
that already has a solorensis wrasse, 2 false Percs, and a yellow
watchman goby. Should I expect any compatibility issues, especially between the
flames and the solorensis? <The solorensis is relatively peaceful but the Flame
Wrasses are aggressive. If you have a large enough tank you may get away with
it. Read here for more info on selection/compatibility. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses/>
Thanks. <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Andy
Re: Cirrhilabrus Wrasse Compatibility - 2/11/2006
Thanks for getting back to me. <You're welcome.> I looked at the link but
did not see the Flame Wrasse and not sure if I am missing it or if it is under a
specific family that I am unaware of. <Didn't search hard enough my friend. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses/cirrhilabrus/index.htm Is
also known as Jordan's Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus jordani).> Also, you mention a
big enough tank -- this is a 90 gallon with a 40 gallon sump/fuge, an ASM G3
skimmer and a closed loop. <Tank is large enough. Do provide caves etc for them
as in live rock. This wrasse isn't one of the easiest to acclimate to prepared
foods. Do make sure they are eating before buying. James (Salty Dog)>
Thanks. <You're welcome.>
Re: Cirrhilabrus Wrasse Compatibility - 2/11/2006
Thanks. I didn't realize name that the flame fell under -- sorry. I
have about 130# of LR so I am guessing that this will be fine for them. <Yes>
Thanks again for the advice. WWM is a great resource. <You're welcome. James
(Salty Dog)>
Andy
Clown fairy wrasse addition - 01/12/2006
Dear WWM Crew, <Marc/Belinda. Belinda reminds me of a favorite song by the
Grass Roots. Bella-Linda>
Over the weekend we went to our local saltwater shop
and I fell in love with a fairy wrasse they have
labeled as a clown fairy wrasse. I have not been able
to find much information about this type of wrasse on
the internet or whether it would be compatible in our
tank. Our 210 gallon community tank consists of:
2 black onyx percula clowns (mated pair)
1 radiant wrasse
1 yellow coris wrasse
2 yellow fin fairy wrasses
2 firefish
2 zebra barred gobies
2 scissortail gobies/Dartfish
1 scooter blenny
1 male green mandarin (plan to add a female)
1 bicolor blenny
1 diamond watchman goby
1 6-line wrasse
1 rusty angel
1 bicolor Foxface Rabbitfish
1 royal Gramma Basslet
3 pajama cardinals (spotted cardinals)
1 sailfin tang
1 Hector's goby
2 greenbanded gobies
1 two spot bimaculatus blenny
1 blenny (green with black line across top and lime
green head with forked tail)
2 cleaner shrimp
1 queen conch
1 sand shifting sea star
1 star fish
1 cucumber
I think this is it. Can you tell me if we would be able to add the clown fairy
wrasse we saw at the
store? Would it be overcrowding or pick on or be picked on by others? Our tank
is pretty peaceful and
we do not want to disturb that. <I wouldn't add any more fish. You are around 7
gallons per fish now. But to answer your question, the Red Head Solon/Clown
Fairy Wrasse (cirrhilabrus solorensis) is reef safe and grows to 5" and I
believe a rather expensive wrasse.>
Thank you so very much, <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Marc & Belinda Barry
Fairy Wrasse Harems 12/7/05
Hey crew, how are you this evening?
<Scott F. here today...Doin' fine!>
I just have a quick question on compatibility among the genus Cirrhilabrus, but first I have a question regarding Cirrhilabrus lubbocki. Is there a way to determine the genders of these fish? I've seen several articles and books that recommend keeping a large harem of these as they stay less than 3" as a nice schooling species, but have not been able to find pictures identifying male from female or any retailers that sell genders individually. I'd hate to just buy some and let them pick each other off until one male and however many females were left. If you have a retailer recommendation that can help or a way to identify them that would be a great help. Or if they can be bought young enough so they will work out their own social order, that would work too.
<With regards to sexing these fishes, the males will typically display distinct color on all of the fins, particularly the anal fin, whereas females usually possess clear anal fins. Although not a 100% reliable method, this is a fairly accurate way to determine the sexes.>
Second, I've heard that while single males don't get along in the same system amongst the genus, that harems of different species can sometimes be kept. I'm currently in the planning stages of a 750-1150 gallon tank. I'm still about two years out, but my nights are spent feverishly picking what specimens to keep and all of the other details that make our hobby the stuff of madness.
The problem therein lies that I'm in love with 3 species of Cirrhilabrus: Cirrhilabrus
jordani, Cirrhilabrus lineatus, and Cirrhilabrus lubbocki. I would like to keep a harem of each, but I want to know if you guys would recommend this. Or should I cut it down to just two? Also, if there is no way to distinguish C.
lubbocki and you don't recommend getting a group of them to let them sort it out, then that might be the solution right there.
<In a tank of this size, I don't see any problems with this plan. The most difficult part of maintaining harems is finding females! Collectors tend to pass on the less colorful females, shipping the more marketable males.>
Anyway, any advice or help you can provide would be great. I know people have kept many fairy wrasses in the same tank, but these are usually the exception and not the rule. I prefer to err on the side of caution when it comes to these things. Thanks again.
<Again, I think that small groups of 1 male to 3-4 females as you're planning is the best way to go. If you can find a group of females, you're likely to end up with one fish emerging as a male in the end. Good luck with your planning, and send pics when this monster tank is up! Regards, Scott F.>
Cirrhilabrus Trio In A 50 Gallon Tank? - 11/10/05
Hey Crew,
<<Hey!>>
I've read through the FAQs and still am unsure if my setup will be
sufficient or not to provide for the finned buddies I'd like to get. The LFS I frequent for all things salty has 2 separate trios of Cirrhilabrus (C.
solorensis & C. rubrisquamis) in Quarantine (they Q all their fish 7 days before they hit the sales floor).
<<Both are very attractive wrasses.>>
So my question(s) is this... Assuming both Trios make it through Q at the LFS healthy. Will one trio be suitable in my 50 gallon low-light reef?
<<Yes>>
And if so, would one of the trios be a better choice in those confines than the other?
<<Whichever you like the better.>>
The 50 gallon (36"x18"x18") tank in question is a 2 month old low light reef w/3" aragonite sand bed and 35 lbs of new (2 months cured) Tonga live rock and roughly 10 lbs of mushroom and colony polyp rocks from my main reef tank. The only other residents in this tank currently are Nassarius and Cerith snails and anything that hitchhiked in on the Live Rock. The tank has a skimmer and a small HOB refugium w/ Macro Algae (Chaetomorpha) and has roughly 750gph water movement.
<<Should work nicely for the wrasses.>>
If one of the trios will work... would you foresee any conflicts w/
adding a few Firefish and a couple of Cleaner Gobies sometime down the road?
<<Mmm...should be fine, though probably not more than one Firefish due to conspecific aggression among this species.>>
Thanks for your time and all that you provide to the Hobby.
Andy
<<Happy to assist, EricR>> Re: Cirrhilabrus Trio In A 50 Gallon Tank? - 11/21/05
Follow up ... I ended up picking up the "trio" of C. solorensis.
<<Beauties, ain't they?>>
In the LFS tank they were fairly washed out color wise and showed no aggression (they were in a sand less tank w/ a Flame Angel and couple pieces of live rock), but since they've colored up very nicely, and voraciously eat anything and everything offered.
<<Not atypical>>
But here in lies my question, all 3 now match to some extent the coloration of the male photo in your Cirrhilabrus article
(http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses/cirrhilabrus/
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/cirrhilabruspt2.htm
)... And the largest and most colorful of the three has been aggressive
<<Establishing dominance>>
(chasing around the rockwork and nipping) towards the other two, not to the point of tearing fins or causing cuts, but on occasion the smallest will take to the sand during daylight hours to evade harassment from the dominant male.
<<Maybe nothing to worry about. I have a Leopard Wrasse pair (Macropharyngodon meleagris), they were purchased as females and the more dominant morphed to a "super male" which even after a year, every month or so will chase the female to the point of hiding in the sand for a bit...she doesn't seem any the worse for wear for it...and the male's colors seem to benefit from the brief excitement too. If all three C.
solorensis are eating and not being physically mauled, I would be inclined to see how it plays out.>>
Is this normal behavior for Cirrhilabrus when introduced to a new home?
<<Tis normal, period... These fish (Cirrhilabrus sp.) are haremic and will defend their territories against other males. Even with a male and several females you will see some chasing as the male continually establishes dominance.>>
If so, any estimate on how long this Ike and Tina show normally lasts?
<<Will likely die down in a few weeks.>>
Or is it probable that my "trio" is actually a group of males.
<<Possibly...or maybe the "lesser" two are/were in the process of changing to males when collected.>>
How sexually dimorphic is C. Solorensis... Are the pictures in the article representative of all female Solorensis?
<<Probably not "all", as coloring is effected by diet, environmental conditions...>>
In your opinion would I be best to split them up now, or at what point would you suggest separating them?
<<Separate once it becomes obvious they (it) are becoming mal-affected.>>
Are there any other tricks that might settle the aggression...
<<Remove the dominant male...rearrange the rock and let the other two wrasses become "settled" for a week...reintroduce the male.>>
I do have a mature Bicolor Angel that I could move into their tank that would happily beat on all of them <<Hee!>>, or I could move a few
Chromis or possibly even a pair of black Ocellaris clowns in.
<<A few Chromis might provide some diversion.>>
Either way, the earliest I would feel safe moving an aggressor or dither in is a couple more weeks as I wouldn't want to risk any of my other fish, prior to observing a month of sustained good health from my new Cirrhilabrus. Btw... I remember reading (I think it was in Mr. Fenner's CMA, but it could have been in Paletta's New Marine Aquarium), that in a large enough system male Cirrhilabrus can revert back to female, any idea's on the time scale involved in this transformation?
<<I have heard of this with "not yet completely turned" males, but I have never witnessed it. At any rate I would think it would take some weeks to happen.>>
Thanks
Andy
<<Good luck Andy...I'd be interested to know how things turn out. EricR>>
Stocking Fairy Wrasses 8/31/05
Hi,
<Hi there! Scott F. with you today!>
I have a 90 gallons aq. with live rock and corals, I have a Lubbock Wrasse and
would like to add an Exquisite Wrasse. Are they compatible? Thanks,
AJ
<Well, AJ, both of these fishes are from the genus Cirrhilabrus, and are found
in nature in fairly sizeable, mixed-sex groupings. A dominant male defends a
"harem" of females and subordinate males. This is a great way to keep them in
captivity. In a situation where you'd simply have two (probably male) fish in
your system, I'd be a bit hesitant. However, if you are able to obtain males and
females of both species, you may have better luck. In my experience, it is
possible to mix individual males of different Fairy Wrasses together, if you
have both males and females of each species in the mix, if the tank is large
enough, and if there is enough "territory". If you manage to obtain a group of
just females (kind of rare, because males are more commonly collected), you'll
be pleased to see one of the females (the dominant one) turn into a lovely make
in a short amount of time (the fish is known as a "protogynous hermaphrodite").
See if you can get some females to throw into the mix! Good luck! Regards, Scott
F. > - Fairy Wrasse and Clown Gobies -
Hey Bob
<Actually, JasonC today...>
You will not remember me but you answered many of my questions back when you
were working with the now defunct flyingfishexpress.com folks. <Seems like a
long time ago.> Thanks for all that info, it helped me a lot.
I'm putting together a new system, a basic reef with a RBT anemone and 2 Percs
(had them for years) under MH lights. The tank is a 110 gal, 30 high, 48 long,
18 back to front with a massive skimmer (Euro-Reef CS8-2), 20 gal refugium with
6 inch DSB, 35 gal total in sump. There will be 4 Maxi-jets hooked to a
wave-maker/controller, and I have not decided on the size of the
Maxi-jets. There will be corals in the tank, however the focus is going to be
on flasher and fairy wrasse.
If I do my home work, and pick the wrasse for size and color to offset
aggression, how many individuals could my system hold? <I wouldn't go nuts with
fairy wrasses - even though they aren't typically aggressive fish, mixing more
than two species in your tank might lead to trouble. You could do male/female
pairs of each.> Also, are the various clown gobies (Gobiodon sp) able to live
with fairy wrasse? <Sure.>
Thanks for the help!
Rich
<Cheers, J -- > Wrasse Harem
Hi,
<Hi there! Scott F. with you today!>
First, I would like to say Thanks for your website, I think it is the
best site online. I have spent many hours reading all the information
there and your site has helped my further my knowledge about this hobby more
than anywhere else. I have such high respect for people so dedicated
to this hobby.
<Thanks so much for the kind words. I'm lucky to work with some great people
here!>
On with my question, I am interested in purchasing a Cirrhilabrus
luteovittatus , but I have seen some info that says they are semi-aggressive. I
have a very peaceful tank (72 gallon) so I was wondering if you would tell me
your opinion on this fish. Would he cause any problems in my tank
with the other peaceful fish. I have a Purple Firefish, Clown Goby,
Court Jester, Possum Wrasse, 3 small juvenile flasher wrasse (Carpenter),
Exquisite Wrasse, and a Cirrhilabrus solorensis and some shrimp.
<Nice mix of peaceful, colorful fish there! I like that mix! In fact, I'd
call it near perfect! Personally, I have not had any problems mixing different
fairy or flasher wrasses together, as long as sufficient space is provided. Yes,
there is a social dynamic that may be disrupted. In wrasse communities, I
generally worry for the newcomer, not the other way around. If you do add the
new fish, observe very carefully and be prepared to take action, if necessary.
There are no guarantees, unfortunately!>
Also, if you have time, could you please tell me how you can tell the difference
between male and female flasher wrasses.
<Well, from an external standpoint, it's generally color and extended finnage
on males. Females, almost across the board, are not as colorful as males. It's
usually that simple. I know that's not much to go on, but that's usually the
best way to tell. If you want a mixed group, buy a few immature specimens, wait
a few months, and one will definitely turn into a male...>
When I purchased them at my LFS, they said they were capable of changing sexes
so that one would turn into a male, leaving the other 2 female. So my
question is, is this true because I purchased them so that I could have a harem,
but so far I can not tell much difference in them after 4 months.
<Give 'em more time...It will eventually happen...Could even take longer, but
it will happen>
They rarely ever swim together but 2 of them are always flashing. The
only difference is that the 2 that are always flashing have 2 elongated rays on
their dorsal fins and have blue lines and
the other one has 3 rays but her stripes are not blue, just a darker orange. I'm
just guessing, but it seems like so far, I have 2 males and one female.
<That would be my guess, too!>
Do I have a chance of them turning into a harem with one male and 2 females? I
would really appreciate your opinion on this.
Thanks for your time, Ashley Whittington
<I certainly think so, Ashley. Just keep everyone happy, observe carefully,
and I'll bet that harem will form! Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
Breaking The Wrasse Impasse (What Wrasses To Mix)
Thanks for the advice Scott!
<My pleasure!>
I would love to get a harem going but Rhomboid Wrasses are so hard to come by,
especially good ones. I'm afraid by the time
I'm finished collecting his harem, he's too old to flash anything!
<And you might have spent all of your retirement fund trying to get some,
too!>
Are you saying that the male wrasse is not choosy with his harem?
<In most cases, the natural "social order" will form, and he will
accept them. This has been my experience with a number of fairy wrasse
species>
And it wouldn't matter when I add them? My concern is that the male
may dislike the gals that I choose for him and decides on some domestic
violence!
<Well, there are no guarantees when you're dealing with fish, particularly in
captive situations. Fish, like people, are individuals, and you never know what
they are thinking>
And as for other wrasses to make him sustain color, are you
speaking of other species of fairy wrasses within the genus? They
won't harass each other?
<Well, it is possible to mix males of the same or different species if your
tank is large enough. And, in all likelihood, you'll get to observe the
"flashing" behaviour even if you keep one male with several females of
the same species. Again, of course, there are no guarantees that the fishes
won't harass each other, but it is worth trying in a large >
I do have a mystery wrasse waiting to go into my display, but I think they are
quite different in behavior than the fairy
wrasses. Would he work to keep Rhomboid's color?
<Perhaps, as they can occasionally encounter each other...Hard to be sure,
though, as they inhabit different environmental niches within the tank>
I know I'm stretching...
<You're doing fine!>
Tks for your help! Roy
<My pleasure, Roy! Enjoy the beautiful fishes that you're going to be adding
soon! Regards, Scott F>
Mixing Fairy Wrasses
Hi,
<Hi there! Scott F. with you today!>
I love your website and think it is the coolest out there on this subject.
<Awesome! Glad you enjoy it! We have lots of fun being here for you!>
I have two quick questions.
<Sure>
I have a 250 gallon FOWLR and am curious if wrasses can co exist together when
mixing. I have a male (4 inches or so) and female (2 and a half
inches) lineatus wrasse (Cirrhilabrus lineatus) and a red headed
fairy wrasse (2 and a half inches) (Cirrhilabrus solorensis). They
show no aggressive behaviour but I am not sure how they evolve. I
would really like to add one more wrasse to the mix. Either a Laboute's
fairy wrasse (Cirrhilabrus laboutei) or a Golden Rhomboid wrasse (Cirrhilabrus
rhomboidalis). Do you think this is pushing it?
<In a smaller tank (like under 100 gallons, I'd say that it would be pushing
it. On the other hand, in a tank of this size, there is enough physical space
for fishes to avoid one another if they need to. Ideally, Cirrhilabrus wrasses
should be maintained in groups of one male to two or more females. In nature,
these fishes are found in haremic units, with a dominant male defending a harem
of subordinate females and immature males. However, in your tank, I'd go for it.
There are, of course, no guarantees, but I think that it's worth a try>
Also, My tank parameters are perfect as of this morning. O
ammonia, Nitrite and under 5 nitrate. My sump though does not smell
appealing. Should I be cleaning my bio balls?
<Not really. But you could use some activated carbon and/or PolyFilter to
help remove the odor. Do a little investigating around your system to see what
could be causing the offensive smell.>
Your help would be appreciated,
Thanks, Matt
<My pleasure! Regards, Scott F>
Fairy Wrasses 12/2/04
Hi! I currently have a 180g setup with nine fish in it. Among those fish are
4 Fairy Wrasses- C. luteovittatus, C. cyanopleura, C. lubbocki, and C. lineatus-
all are males. My question is, can a female lineatus be added safely or will she
be harassed to death by the other fairy wrasses? The local LFS has a female in
stock and she'd be the smallest of the wrasses in the tank. Your help is greatly
appreciated! Scott <Although Fairy wrasses are relatively mild mannered
(especially for wrasses!), I am surprised that those that you already have are
tolerating each other. Many fairy wrasses do live as pairs or harems, so the M
and F lineatus should be OK, but the other males may harass her or become
increasingly aggressive due to the presence of a female. If you do attempt to
add this fish, first and foremost, quarantine! Then, be prepared to remove the
other males in decreasing order of aggression if necessary. It is strictly a
matter of taste, but if I were in your position I would be willing to give up
all of the other males to keep the M-F pair. Best Regards. AdamC.>
Re: Fairy Wrasses 12/9/04
Thanks for getting back so quickly! <Glad to!>
I too am surprised that they all get along as well as they do. There is so
little aggression it's almost scary. Since the addition of the lineatus there
has been even less than before. It is pretty cool, though, how they interact;
i.e. color changing and flashing as warnings. <Seeing really natural behavior is
amazing!>
Just out of curiosity, why choose the m/f lineatus over a diverse group of fairy
wrasses? Thanks again! Scott <Just a personal interest in observing courting
and knowing that fish must be in exemplary health to breed. Best
Regards. Adam>
"Red" Fairy Wrasse--Help
Hello.
<Hi there>
I saw a very colorful fish at my local fish store that was labeled "Red Fairy
Wrasse". It was about 3"-4" long and was $56. After I went home, I researched
it and couldn't find any fish that had the common name Red Fairy Wrasse. From
my research, I concluded that all Fairy Wrasses are peaceful, rather easy to
take of, and don't get any bigger than 6" or so.
<Fair generalization>
From my research, I concluded
that the Fairy Wrasse at the store was of the genus Cirrhilabrus.
<Yes... you can see a bunch of pix of these on fishbase.org, WWM:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses/cirrhilabrus/index.htm >
First
question: Is this true?... Second question: Should I buy this fish and put it in
my
70 gallon FOWLR with a Cinnamon Clownfish, a Coral Beauty Angelfish, a Fuzzy
Dwarf Lionfish, a Foxface Lo, and two Sea Urchins?
<Is the Lion small enough to where it won't swallow the Wrasse? Your tank is
getting crowded, but behaviorally all should get along. Bob Fenner>
Re: "Red" Fairy Wrasse--Help.
Thanks for the reply, Bob. I decided not to get the Wrasse. I didn't have
enough trust in the fish store that the Wrasse was to buy it for $56. To answer
your question about the Lionfish--yes he is small; small enough that he doesn't
even bother my Cinnamon Clownfish. I think I may buy 1 or a trio of Banggai
Cardinalfish to go with my Black Long-since Sea urchin. Thanks again--Greg.
<Better to shy on the side of conservancy. Bob Fenner>
Don't Pass Up A Wrasse!
Hello,
<Hi there! Scott F. here today!>
I have a 125 reef with mainly soft corals, LPS corals. I have peaceful fish: 3
purple Firefish, 3 red Firefish, 1 green clown goby, 1 threadfin goby, 1 citron
goby, 1 red head goby, 2 maroon clowns, 1 rose e quad. anemone, a green e. quad,
4 cleaner shrimp, 3 fire shrimp, 6 peppermint shrimp, 4 green Chromis, and two
neon blue gobies in the mail as I write.
<My kind of fish population! Small is beautiful, especially in a large
tank!>
I am very interested in ordering a fairy wrasse or a flasher
wrasse. I have reviewed the marine center page and there are so many
I am overwhelmed. I have tried to avoid difficult species. (I just
don't like killing things.)
<I can dig that!>
Could you recommend some hardy, compatible, pretty species for me that stay
small?
<Well, there are, as you stated, many, many different species that stay
small, are colorful, and are easy to care for. In my experience and opinion, you
could do well with many Cirrhilabrus species. I really like C. solorensis, C.
rubriventralis, and C. scottorum (heh, heh, heh!). If you're like me, and want
to support the "home team", you could get a C. jordani (Hawaiian
Flame Wrasse)...>
(I prefer lots of small colorful fish, rather than a few big ones, although I am
seriously considering setting up a fish only tank b/c dog face puffers and cow
fish are just too cool.)
<Diggin' this! My thoughts exactly, bruddah!>
Are fairy wrasses and flasher wrasses really reef safe, or are they like
Centropyge's where you're always taking a chance.
<No- they really are "reef safe", being strictly planktivorous, and
not interested in corals or sessile inverts at all. Maybe the only caveat with
these fishes (and one that's frequently overlooked by most hobbyists, IMO-is
that they are predominantly found in deeper water, and seem to behave more
"calm" in less brightly lit tanks (or perhaps, 20000k would be a nice
compromise)...Yes, they will adapt to brightly lit tanks just fine, but this is
just something that you may want to think about when planning for these fishes.
They can be kept individually, or in small groups- like 3 females to one
male...or groups of 5 (3 females to 2 males)...>
Thank you for your help, John Kim
<Any time, John! Good luck with your tank(s)!>
Don't Pass Up A Wrasse (Pt. 2)
Scott,
<Good morning!>
I forgot to mention that I have one blue mandarin. Will the wrasse
compete with it for food. Again thank you for your help.
John
<Well, John, I'd have to say an unqualified "no". Fairy and flasher
wrasses tend to pick food from the water column, whereas Mandarins generally
confine their feeding to the substrate and rocks. Sure, the odd Fairy Wrasse
might pick something off the rocks now and again, but the vast
majority of their feeding does take place in the open water. Hope this
alleviates any lingering concerns you might have. Good luck! Regards, Scott
F>
- Fairy Wrasses -
Since fairy wrasses are peaceful fish, could two of different species
co-exist? What if one was added a few weeks after the first. Specifically
Laboutei and exquisite.
<Well, for starters... it really depends on the size of the system. But
provided the system is large enough, I would say it would probably work, however
your chances are better with a male and female of the same species rather than
different species. Cheers, J -- >
Flame Wrasse
Can I add a flame wrasse (male) to my existing 90 gallon fish only tank with
60 pounds of live rock? Below is my current livestock, water condition,
inhabitant behavior:
Livestock:
- 4" Scott's fairy (male)
- 2.5" Cuban hog
- 3" juvenile imperator
- 4" juvenile personifer
- 2" African flameback
Water Condition:
- ammonia/ nitrite = 0 ppm
- nitrate = 2 ppm
Behavior:
All specimens are behaving socially and happily amongst each other (no
aggression).
If the flame wrasse is not a good choice, can you please make a recommendation?
Thanks. Dan
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This Cirrhilabrus would fit in for now... but your ninety is going to be getting
crowded with those large angelfishes growing up...
Bob Fenner
Reef Safe Wrasses! (6/25/03)
Hello. What is a good reef safe wrasse for a 30g
tank? <Many of the fairy wrasses would be fine, one of my
favorites is the Scott's fairy wrasse. Cody>
Australian Lineatus
Crew,
<Hi there>
I didn't notice this species anywhere on your website
<Here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses/cirrhilabrus/index.htm
the folks at Marine Depot have this Fairy Wrasse species name misspelled...
there is but one "n"... pls see it on fishbase.org>
but wondered if
you knew anything about this fish. It looks very pretty and fairly reef
safe (http://www.marinedepotlive.com/auliwrli.html).
<Is... the whole genus>
In addition, I keep
my reef between 80F and 81.8F with Heaters and Chillers and haven't had
a problem for 2yrs.... would that be a problem for this Wrasse?
<Nope, not likely. Just make sure you keep the whole top covered... very good
jumpers. Bob Fenner>
Christopher Slabe
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