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FAQs about Health/Diseases, Pests of Soft
Corals of the Family Alcyoniidae 3
Related Articles:
Soft Corals of the Family Alcyoniidae
Related FAQs:
Alcyoniid Disease1,
Alcyoniid Disease 2, Alcyoniid
Disease 4, Alcyoniid Disease 5,
Alcyoniid Disease 6, Alcyoniid Disease 7,
Alcyoniid Disease 8, Alcyoniid Disease 9,
Alcyoniid Health 10, Alcyoniid Disease
11, Alcyoniid Health 12, &
Soft Corals of the Family Alcyoniidae,
Alcyoniids 2, Alcyoniids 3,
Alcyoniids 4,
Alcyoniid ID, Alcyoniid Selection,
Alcyoniid Compatibility, Alcyoniid
Systems,
Alcyoniid Behavior, Alcyoniid
Feeding, Alcyoniid Propagation,
Soft Coral Propagation, Soft Coral
Health, Dyed Corals, Soft
Coral Propagation, Nephtheids,
Dendronephthya, Paralcyoniids,
Nidaliids, Xeniids,
Dyed Corals, | 
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Sarcophyton elegans Not Doing So Well - 12/03/05 Hello WWM Crew,
<<Hi JJ>> I recently bought a yellow Sarcophyton coral from my LFS.
<<Likely Sarcophyton elegans...a delicate and touchy species.>> It
looked great in the store and was "doing well" for the last 2 days in my
tank. After reading through your FAQs, I read that drooping is normal
for this coral until they adjust. <<Yes, usually some weeks. They
don't take kindly to being moved/touched...not a beginner's/easy coral
to care for in my opinion>> Mine has been drooping as well but
regularly extends it polyps and still has a nice yellow color to it.
<<Hopefully you have adequate lighting for this light-loving coral.>>
<<Take a look at what
Aquahobby has to say about this specimen. Marina>> When
it droops, it leans up against another piece of rock in my tank. Today I
noticed that there is a hole underneath the cap almost separating it
from the shaft! <<Hmm...>> It runs about halfway around and I can
see into the inside of its cap or rather it looks like there is some
kind of hollow section. It still looks healthy and polyps are extending
normally like in the past 2 days. I moved it to take a closer look
<<Yikes! Not a good idea to handle as previously noted. Do place it for
good water flow/light and leave it be.>> and there is some flaking or
shedding around the area only around the hole, but not anywhere on the
"inside" of the coral. It would seem like the cap is separating to
attach to the rock it is leaning against. <<Maybe...but more likely
this is a stress-induced reaction.>> It is originally mounted kind of
strangely across 2 pieces of rock, so maybe it wants to relocate?
<<Not likely at this early stage.>> I'm not sure what to think here.
Is it dying or is it propagating? Should I cut the cap off myself and
remount it? Or should I just leave it and let it go though its
adjustment period hoping for the best? <<Give it good water flow and
adequate lighting (You did your research "before" you bought it,
right?), and just keep an eye on it. More handling is only going to
worsen the problem.>> My tank parameters are as follows: Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0 Nitrate 0 Calcium 360 Alk 11 (hard water in my area)
SG 1.022 <<I would bring this up to 1.025>> Temp 76 deg None of
my fish have been observed picking at it and all other corals are doing
well (mostly softies and LPS). <<Yes, likely a stress-induced
situation for the Sarcophyton.>> Thanks for reading, JJ <<Regards,
EricR>> Re: Sarcophyton elegans Not Doing So Well - 12/06/05
Hello again WWM Crew, <<EricR here again...>> An update for you
guys on the situation. (see below for previous correspondence). Next
morning, the cap detached completely from the shaft and was found
resting beside it on a nearby rock. It was also rotting across the
middle part (whitish coloration) and a slit opened up as well. There was
a faint smell to the water and I felt had to do something before the
tank fouled. <<Agreed>> I know this is against your advice, but I
inspected the bottom of the cap and the entire section where it joins
the shaft was rotting! <<No worries JJ...comes a time when you have
to use your own good judgment, as you did in this case.>> Seeing as
how things were, I don't think I really had a choice... <<Agreed
again>> I ended up fragging the entire coral. Cutting out the
diseased parts and dividing the cap into equal segments. The shaft was
mostly gone, except for the inner part that kind of looks like a finger.
I mounted all of them on rocks and placed them in different locations.
Now I am just hoping for the best. <<About all you can do at this
point. Do keep a close watch for any continuing decline.>> To answer
your question (EricR), I did do a bit of research before purchasing this
coral and everything I've read seems to say that they are a hardy coral
and good for a beginner! <<Not in my opinion/experience. And I'm not
saying they can't be kept or will not do well. Once established they
can/will do very well and are a very attractive addition...it's getting
past that first hurdle that can be problematic.>> I am currently
keeping supposedly "more difficult" LPS corals without problems and now
I'm inclined to agree with you, this is not an "easy" coral, VERY
SENSITIVE like you mentioned. (Don't worry, I left lots of room between
the LPS and the toadstool!) <<Excellent>> Per your recommendation,
I'm slowly bringing up my salinity. <<Ah good...>> The lights I'm
using on my tank are 375 watts of PC, I believe this is adequate for
most softies and LPS. <<Likely so...for most. But contrary to what
some others think, I believe you will find this coral will
prosper/display better color with intense lighting. I have kept this
coral under PC lighting in the past, but the coral was placed at only a
few inches of depth.>> Thanks for your help, JJ <<Always
welcome, EricR>>
Leather Coral Health 11/21/05 Hi Guys, Been reading your
Website for about six months now. Very helpful. First time
question. I've had this leather coral for about 1 month. It had
been expanding nicely, but only for short periods of time, then it
stopped expanding. After day 5 of not expanding, I checked it out
when the lights were out. Should of done this sooner (duh).
<<"Should have", not "should of" - sorry, I have a friend who does
this all the time! MH>> Found a Dendronotus sp. or Tritonia
sp. on the base of the coral. I extracted the sucker with a tweezers
and softly brushed the rock rubble it was on for possible eggs in a
bowl of display water, and put it back in. This morning It looked
like this (see pict.) and hasn't changed. Is it dying? <Maybe...>
Or will it come back? <Hopefully> Is there anything I can do?
<Optimized, stable water quality, iodine/ide administration
(Lugol's), feeding...> All my others corals are fine. and water
is optimum. Thanks, Tom C. <Welcome. Bob Fenner> | 
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Dying Pink Toadstool? 11/18/05 Hi WWM crew...I have
recently become a SW hobbyist (2 mths now and I adopted a 10yr old tank)
and came upon your site by way of Reef Sanctuary. I love all of the
information I have gathered from your site, but I have been unable to
get an answer as to why my toadstool is failing. I understand they are
hearty creatures, but being a newbie..... Let me give you some
background the best I can: 75gal tank, 80lbs LR, 2in LS substrate,
Yellow tang, 2 damsels, 2 striped catfish, bi-color blenny, hermit crab,
Pink Toad Stool, Mushroom rock (also not doing well), Flame Scallop and
a variety of numerous tubeworms and feather dusters. Plan to add
more after I get the hang of it! Water Parameters: NitrAtes 40ppm
(down with H2O changes from 100+ppm) <Need to aim for getting,
keeping this below 20 ppm... Whatever the causes here, this may be THE
reason for you stinging-celled life's lack of vitality> NitrItes 0
Amm 0 pH 8.2 Sal 1.022 <I'd raise this up, keep it near natural
seawater strength, 1.025> Temp 76 Doing weekly 10-15% water
changes after 'blowing off' the rock and siphoning the 'yuck' out.
Additives and food to the tank are Oceanic Natural Sea Salt.
Bio-Calcium, as needed. <... what are your readings for pH, calcium,
magnesium?> Kent SuperBuffer. Coral Vite, <Drop this, garbage...
likely a source of nitrate here> tsp weekly. 1 drop Lugol's Solution,
weekly. DT Phytoplankton, <Not necessary, or advisable> 1 capful
every other 2 days. Emerald Entree, 1/2 cube every other day. One 3"X2"
sheet of Nori daily. New bulbs - 1 Coralife Actinic 48" Blue and 1
Florescent 48" 40Watt 10,000K bulbs. Running lights 8 hours a day.
H39 system Mechanical and Biological Filter and sump with 3 powerheads.
Ok, I have attached some photos as the toadstool has deteriorate a bit
in the last few days. Note the base of the Toadstool and it is leaning
over. <I see> Although from what I have read, it seems that it
will be ok. But my questions are, why is the base getting so skinny and
shedding so much? <In two words: "water quality"> It doesn't seem
to be thriving so I moved it higher up in the tank to be closer to the
lamps and water flow. I used gloves and carefully pried it away from the
LR to move it to a better location. Should I frag it? <I would not>
I'm at a loss. I have not been able to find anything written anywhere
about this strange happening. Please help!!!! I hate to see my new
'babies' suffering! Thanks so much, Cheryl <Do consider the
above changes/suggestions... the DAS H39 system Mechanical and
Biological Filter... is puny, and should be added to in all aspects of
filtration... and for now I'd add some activated carbon in your filter
flow path. Bob Fenner> 
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Leather Mysteries... w/ photo's 11/3/05 Hey Guys.... <...
and gals...> I know how you like photo's so I took the extra
effort for you. I know you probably have already answered these
questions, but I don't comprehend written stuff as well as others...
<... so how are you going to interpret this response?> so I'm
hoping you can sort of spell things out and maybe use these photos
to help others who may be struggling to understand your site...
<Will try> THE BASICS: This is a 55 gal. with everything pictured
plus 1 black angler, 1 3-stripe damsel, 1 coral banded shrimp.
<The Angler will consume these in time... not long from now> The
lighting is 2 -20" 65w pc smart bulbs + 2 40w 48" florescent (one
actinic) (one 10,000k) I know the light is not strong enough for
the anemone, but he was given to me after being caught in a power
head and left for dead.... he's grown about twice the size in the
last couple weeks, but still no color... I'm looking for someone
with MHQ light to pass him on. ANYONE IN NASHVILLE TN AREA WANT TO
RESCUE HIM... E-mail
melstarcher@cpws.net. <I take it you want us to publish this
email addy...> <<So do I. MH>> The Lights are on 11
hours a day for the gorgonians. Feeding includes DT's
phytoplankton, and I just started DT's oyster eggs today (I've heard
great things) plus I heard they are great for small mouth polyps
such as sea fans etc. and plus some leftover food from feeding the
fish in my other aquariums. Chemicals include Kent strontium as per
directions on bottle, SeaChem reef complete as per directions on
bottle, and Kent iodine as per directions on bottle... Water
Changes are weekly 5 gal, filtration is a stripped down Eheim 2213
used basically for simple debris filtering and phosphate reactor...
which leads to question 1 of 3 1: I've read about using carbon...
WWM seems to thinks it's good but only to use a certain type... my
LFS's only carry wood based, which WWM says not to use.. should I
use carbon, and what is the name brand, where can I get it and per
what directions? <I'd look for pre-made carbon products... like
Aquarium Pharmaceuticals or Boyd's Chemipure... from etailers,
catalog sales if you can't get locally> the reef has been
established for about a year now and all seems to be fine except
lately... which leads to questions 2&3 2&3: If you look at the
photo you'll see what appear to be cuts on the colt coral, and holes
in the middle of the mushroom leather. I hope the photos are enough
to tell the story. I do have bristle worms, but from what I've
read... that shouldn't be the problem... I have looked for other
instigators, but haven't seen anything out of the ordinary. <...
have you forgotten the questions? Do see the hole in the Sarcophyton
(nice pic BTW), and could be damage from the worms, yes... Could be
baited/trapped out> Please review this information and please
make any and all suggestions to improve the quality / conditions for
my reef. And please help me save my two corals before it gets too
far out of control. <Mmm, for this mix, your system looks fine...
as does your maintenance/care...> you guys are the BEST....
sincerely, Mel Starcher faithful WWM freak <Bob Fenner> |
Soft Coral health 9/29/05 Dear Sir <Alan> my soft
corals are shrinking and coming away from its rock that it was attached
to, <Not good> I think they are disintegrating, the soft corals
that I have is 1 toadstool leather coral <Usually a tough animal,
Sarcophytons> 1 pussy coral 1 frilly finger coral, but the rest of
the fish and inverts are ok. the inverts that I have is
1 yellow feathered cucumber/ 3 different kinds of mushroom polyps
<These last may be mal-affecting your leather> on rocks. My ammonia
is perfect my nitrite is also perfect ph 8.0 nitrate not good 20ppm
dark orange the salt level is 23. Why are my corals doing
that? I clean out and replace my filter media every 4 weeks, and
I do water changes every 2 weeks. what is the problem
are my corals dying off? I have got foam and bio
hoops and activated super carbon in my canister filter, I hope to
here from you soon. yours sincerely ALAN REID
<Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/index.htm Scroll down to
soft corals area, read re: Alcyoniid Compatibility, Systems, Health...
Bob Fenner>
Devil's hand turning white 09/13/2005
In our tank we have had a Devil's hand leather for a couple of years.
It is about 5 inches, pink colored, 10+ "finger", and many polyps. It
had been doing very well until a few weeks ago when a large anemone
placed itself right next to it. We have moved the anemone (after a few
days) but now 1/3 of the leather is turning white and the polyps are not
out. The other side looks as healthy as before. Is there anything we
can do to save the Devil's Hand? Also one "finger" was detached a
couple of months ago and is a healthy looking stub with polyps. It is
loose on the bottom of the tank. Anything we should do to aid its
growth? Thanks for you help! <You could glue it where you want it with
underwater epoxy. As for the mother, if the bleached side looks bad,
cut it off with sharp scissors and new polyps will emerge in
time. James (Salty Dog)> Carrie R. Frost Drop in
pH, Colt coral suffering Hi all, <Larry> I'm hoping that you
can give me some suggestions for a treatment plan. I have a colt coral
in my reef system that just hasn't had any luck. I added it to the tank
in February and it bleached within 1 week of being introduced. I've
been trying to nurse it back to health ever since. Fortunately, the
polyps never stopped extending and the color has been gradually coming
back over the last couple of months. I don't know that it helped or was
a coincidence, but the color started improving after I started target
feeding with a mixture of Cyclop-eeze and DT's Oyster Eggs. I
thought we were on the road to recovery until I got home from work today
and found the colt nearly melted away. All of the limbs were eroded to
a point close to the main stalk and no polyps were extended. Another
soft coral, a green Kenya tree looks okay (not fantastic, but
okay). All other corals (including 2 yellow leathers) look fine. No
corals are within 5 or so inches from the colt and the nearest are candy
canes. The major change in the tank was a 10% water change yesterday,
done with day old aerated water matched to the temp and salinity of the
tank. I did some quick water tests, temp 78 degrees, nitrates and
ammonia undetectable. Didn't test nitrite (never really do with this
tank, but can if you think it is a good idea). Then I checked
pH. Normally it is a steady 8.3 (I usually test around 9:00 am),
tonight (7:30 pm) it is about 8.0. I haven't checked alkalinity yet,
but I can guess that it will be below my normal readings (will check in
a bit). I can/will check other items (calcium, phosphate, iodine,
silicate, etc.), but I have a feeling that I've already found my
problem. I dosed some Reef Builder this evening. I will check the pH
in the morning and if the pH is still low I will dose some more. Other
than buffering the water and investigating possible causes for the drop
in pH (and possibly alkalinity) is there anything you would recommend to
try and save the colt? Thanks for you help (as always!) <Larry, to
be successful in keeping corals, 10% weekly water changes are
necessary. It replaces lost trace elements and also removes waste
products from the water. You don't mention what your salinity or
alkalinity are/were. Alk should never fall below 8 dKH and calcium
levels 375/400. A weekly iodine supplement also helps. You also don't
mention your lighting intensity (watts per gallon), and your water flow
in gph. Do a google search on the wet web, keyword, "corals", will open
up links to most anything you are interested in. James (Salty Dog)>
Larry Drop in pH, Colt coral suffering 7/20/05 James,
<Larry, sorry for the long delay. Been out of town.> Sorry, I meant
to include sg and didn't. It is at 1.023 (a little low, <1.023 is
fine.> I plan on gradually bring it up a bit). I didn't mention, but
the water change is a regular part of my maintenance schedule although
it was overdue. Alk is 7 dKH (per the FasTest kit). While the alk is
low,<Not dangerously low.> this has been a typical reading on this tank
for as long as it has been running, I occasionally get alk to 8.4, very
rarely as high as 9.8. Calcium (per Seachem test kit) is at 400 (which
for this tank is very good). I do provide a weekly iodine addition.
<Sea Chem's Reef Builder will raise your alk safely.> I can't give
you a watts per gallon, I've never figured it out that way. The tank
holds 240 gallons (with another 100 in the sump). Lighting is 2 x 175
watt MH pendants (65K) and 3 x 6 foot VHO bulbs (2 actinic white, 1
actinic). The halides are suspended about 5-6 inches from the top of
the tank. The colt is towards the end of the VHOs, off to the side from
one of the pendants, about 21 inches down from the surface of the
tank. Water flow should be more than sufficient, the return from my
gravity fed sump is via a 2000 gph Iwaki MD-100. <Your wattage is only
1.75 watts per gallon. Not near enough to keep any light loving inverts
alive for any length of time. The flow rate should be somewhere up
around 2400 gph. Try adding a couple powerheads to increase the
circulation.> I tested the pH again this morning, still at 8.0. I
added a second dose of Seachem's Reef Builder this morning, will
continue checking/working with the pH. Is there anything else you would
recommend to help stabilize/revitalize the colt? <Lighting my
friend. James (Salty Dog)> Thanks again! <You're welcome> Larry
Pods... undesirable7/5/05 Hi WWM, Recently I'm seeing
"ant-like" pods burrowing in my live rock and some of my coral. Two
of my soft corals look sick and these pods are crawling in and out
where the tentacles of the coral are supposed to be sticking out. Are
these pods harmful, <Could be> they seem to come out of
their hole just for a split second and look like small red/black ant
about the size of 2mm. I freshwater dip one of my live rocks and a
whole bunch of them came out swirling, struggled and die in about 15
seconds. Thanks and keep up the good work. Regards, Yik Sing
<You might want to look into adding a fish predator that will eliminate
a bunch of these crustaceans. There are many choices. Bob Fenner>
Sick Cabbage
Leather With Fungus at Base? 7/5/05 Dear Crew, <Sorry
for the lateness of this reply... misplaced> Thanks for
taking the time to answer my question. I have searched the FAQ's
over and over but cannot find the answer I am looking for, so here I
am. Here goes: I have a sick looking batch of cabbage
leather. They don't appear very well today. Found this fungus area
with some dark brown on it about 5 days ago. I think this may have
started when I upgraded the lights from 83watts Power Compact
Fluorescent to 143watts PC. The coral is in the top third of the
tank near the lights. <Mmm, I might (have) moved this colony
lower...> It was doing great with the new lights and it's polyp
extension was incredible. Sorry I don't have a pic of it with the
new lights and happy. Here's a pic 3 months ago with
83wattsPC: <Very nice> You can see the base where
the leather is shedding as it grows. <Yes, natural> Here
is a pic today, with 143watts PC: <Yikes, a bit "burnt">
The piece on the far right is on a separate stalk from the
other; which is all one bunch. Close-up of the tissue
damage: <Unfortunately pic didn't come through> Could
this be caused by the new lights? <Yes... but this is likely
only a co-factor... something like other livestock incompatibility
is likely at play here.> Is there anything I can do to save
it? <At this juncture, mainly time going by... addition of
Lugol's, other iodine/ide might help, be worthwhile> How about a
soft toothbrush scrubbing in a bowl of tank water and then move down
on the bottom? <Mmm, I would not do this> All other
corals and fish are beautiful and smiling. The nearest coral is a
frogspawn whose head is 6" - 7" away. Thanks, David <A
water change, adding some activated carbon in your filter flow path
would be good as well. Bob Fenner> |  
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Re: Sick Cabbage Leather With Fungus at Base? ***UPDATED*** 7/5/05
Dear Crew, <David> Here is an update which may or
may not help. I vacuumed off the supposed tissue damage. It's now
clean. It was from the coral shrinking and shedding. The stalks are
clean, but the coral still looks real bad. I did turn off the 65watt
PC Actinic03 just in case. He looks stressed. System Specs:
29gal Bare Bottom, 42#'s Live Rock, skimmer working good. Currently
fighting Cyanobacteria problem by all recommended means without the
dosing of chemicals. The only thing that has been added was a 2" x
4" piece of Poly Filter to my HOB filter. Sometimes I use this HOB
filter, which is stripped clean, to run carbon. Mostly LPS:
hammer, frogspawn, very large open brain, zoanthids, Palythoa,
Diploastrea Heliopora, cabbage leathers, and mushrooms. <The
zoanthids, corallimorphs are pretty toxic tankmates... w/o substrate
to complex...> 2 clowns, a 2 year old blue dragonet (loves
frozen foods), 2 peppermint shrimp, 3 porcelain crabs, 6 Astreas.
Water param.s as of 20 min.s ago: Temp - 82ºF SG - 1.0265
(refractometer) dKH - 8 CA - 370ppm pH - 8.4
Nitrates - 0 Nitrites - 0 Phosphate - 0 Ammonia - 0
(just for the heck of it) <All look good> It has been a week
since I dosed with 2 part B-Ionic alk/CA buffer. So I know my CA and
dKH are low. Usually dose twice a week, but with the Cyano problems
I have been doing 10% water change with aerated and heated water
every 3 days. Using Instant Ocean salt, BTW. HTH, Thanks again,
David <Do please take a read through our Cnidarian section:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/index.htm I
suspect a good deal of your problems are due to the mix of species
you are housing together. Bob Fenner> |
Dying leather! Hi Bob, <Michael> Pleasure reading
all the great information on this website. It's clearly the
best tool available! Anyway, I recently decided to make my
first soft coral purchase, as I've had this 54gal tank for close 2
years. I purchased on Sunday, and almost immediately it started
reacting well to the lighting and water-flow. Well, yesterday,
the healthiest of the 4 stalks somehow moved off the live-rock it
came with, and shifted onto my own live rock. <Happens> It
was a bit slumped over, but looked very healthy all day
long. Today, I found it slumped over and losing all it's
color. Is there any saving it? <Mmm, maybe better to cut, move
it a bit away from the other stalks> (see attached pic). On
another note, the other stalks seem to have a bit of gray on the
side and some cotton like tufts where it was touching the sickly
stalk. Could you recommend any options? Should I get the sickly
stalk out immediately? <Yes... with a sharp single-edge razor
blade. See WWM re> I've read the site carefully, but I haven't
seen any fish/crabs picking on it throughout the day and
night. Any recommendations for keeping these healthy?
<Just what is posted> Tank params are: 54 gal amm: 0
nitrite: 0 nitrate: 0 1 2" maroon clown 1 yellow tang
1 long, long nose butterflyfish. <Your tank is too small for
this BF> Thanks so much! Regards, MB <Bob Fenner> | 
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