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FAQs about Red Calcareous and Coralline Algae Selection
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Coralline Algae 9/27/05
Hello all: <Hello Mitch>
I perused the plethora of perplexing problems that were addressed in the
FAQs on the subject. However, I did not find an answer to my specific
concern, which I shall now pose.
For roughly 5 months, I have had approximately 130 pounds of LR in my
125G tank, in addition to another 20 pounds in the sump of my wet/dry.
The bio-media has been removed. The LR in the display has taken on an
orange/reddish color, which I assume to be a type of coralline algae. My
calcium level is approximately 500 ppm with an alkalinity reading of 12
dKH. I have a 192W power compact that is placed 3" above the water
surface.
My specific question is in regard to the color of the coralline algae.
As I see wonderful pictures of the lavender algae and desire the same,
please advise what I need to do to attain this goal and approximately
how long it should take.<Mitch, normally coralline should seed within
the first month. Lets start with lighting, you don't mention the types
of tubes you are using. Coralline loves actinic light, hates white
light. In nature, coralline grows best deep in the ocean where only
blue light can penetrate. For starters I would use one true actinic
tube in your fixture and keep this on 24/7 for two weeks. In your top
off water use Chem's Reef Builder and Reef Advantage in alternating
doses. This will keep the strontium level high which coralline does
need to grow. Use of a protein skimmer is highly recommended to keep
phosphates at a low level. Calcium levels of 400ppm with a dKH of 8 to
12 is all that is needed. Try this and I think you will be pleasantly
surprised in three to four weeks. James (Salty Dog)>
Thanks,
Mitch |
Coralline Algae 9/27/05
Thanks, James, for the prompt response! I did not mention in my first
post, but this is a FO tank with just live rock and no corals. Just so I
am clear on the procedures to follow...
1. I have one actinic 96W tube and one white 96W tube. The actinic
comes on 1 hour before and turns off 1 hour after the white, which is on
for 12 hours. So, the actinic is on for a total of 14 hours.
Do I leave the white on for the same 12 hour daily cycle while leaving
the actinic on for 24/7 for two weeks?<Yes> Will the continuous actinic
lighting be of any concern for my fish?<No>
2. I have been using ESV's B-Ionic Calcium Buffer System, the two
component liquid system.
Should I stop using this product and switch to the Seachem products that
you recommend? <I can't tell you to stop using a named product. All I
can tell you is that I know the Sea Chem works. I use it. I've tried
the ESV years ago and personally I really don't care for it. It's
impossible to use equal amounts of it and maintain 400ppm and 8-12
dKH. Keep in mind, I'm not pushing Sea Chem products, its just one I
tried and liked the results. There are probably other products out
there that work equally well. Just my preference. James (Salty Dog)>
Thanks,
Mitch |
Coralline Algae 9/27/05
Thanks again, James, for the info...much appreciated!
<No problem Mitch. I'm attaching a pic of a rock that was lightly
seeded two months ago. It is the rock on the left. Pic not very clear
but you'll see the results. James (Salty Dog)>
Mitch |
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Brittle star and coralline algae question...
I've poured over your site and the net for a little bit of brittle star
ID. I was hoping you could direct me to a website that has a nice
thumbnail listing with pictures. I've tried http://home.att.net/~ophiuroid/home.html,
but that didn't work either. <I suppose you've checked here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/brittlestars.htm.
Although I had no luck locating a site either, the Modern Coral Reef Aquarium
volume 4 has excellent information and species descriptions w/ pictures.> I
have 3 brittle stars all black or grey colored. one was sold to me as
a midnight crawler. I plopped em in before I became a daily reader of
your site as I am now 'enlightened'. I'm lucky enough to have a job
where I'm online 90% of the day (and I still can't find that precious ID
site) I've spent the last 2 weeks trying to read all your faq's (I'm
beginning to think it's impossible to read them all). I pulled my
green brittle star (damned assassin took a sally lightfoot crab and an emerald
crab). he paid a heavy penalty. I'll spare you the
details. <I hope that means you returned him to your LFS, otherwise there's
no reason to kill it for your mistake.>
ok, one more easy question for you, o great and mighty aqua gods! <lol>
what are the benefits of coralline algae. does it soak up nitrates
and/or phosphates? <Not to any practical extent.> does it release much
needed oxygen into the water column?? <Well, it is an algae so it would.>
are there any other benefits that you know of?? <It's really purdy. It is
harder for hair algae to get a foothold on it, so it is an excellent thing to
have your rocks covered with.> I can't imagine there are any detriments, are
there? <Well, if you have enough growing it will deplete your calcium and
alkalinity levels. This could be a problem if you don't test for them.> I
thank you in advance for your replies and for previous replies welcoming me into
the brotherhood (and sisterhood???) that is....aquaria...my new
love. <Haha, enjoy! -Kevin> hopefully I won't need too much
therapy later.
Coralline algae (10-28-03)
Hi guys,<Howdy, Cody here today.>
Your website has been such a great resource lately, thanks for taking the time
to make it available. My question is: there is someone on eBay
selling coralline algae scrapings saying that it is a way to seed a
tank. I was under the impression that this type of algae always grows
in the presence of live rock, but that it would not grow until a tank is
established for a long while. Any help would be appreciated. <If
you have some LR with coralline on it should grow with time as long as you have
the proper lighting, calcium… If you don’t have any present in your tank you
could buy a piece with some on it and it will quickly grow. I would
recommend you just buy some LR with it on it as that is a much safer way than
getting it shipped to you. Cody>Thanks.
Coralline Algae Growth
Hello Crew!
<Hello, Ryan with you today>
Just can't seem to find the answer to these in the FAQ's
(sometimes TOO MUCH good information to find a specific
question).
<I know! It's a bit overwhelming at times>
1. I have an open brain coral that I feed meaty treats
(shrimp, clam, squid) 3 times per week. I noticed that
it has 3 mouth-like structures that I put the food
directly into and it gets sucked in. I have to stand
guard else my ever hungry clowns will snatch the food
up. Is it necessary to feed each mouth? Can I just
feed one or two of them and the nutrients will get
shared to the entire organism? The third is a little
hard to see/reach and this direct feeding method is the
only way I have found to feed it without others in the
tank (clowns, shrimp) snatching the food for themselves.
<The more each mouth eats, the better the entire colony will
grow. Corals grow in a very deliberate way; To make the most of a
certain environment. This said, I would either move the brain so that
you can feed the entire thing, or make the extra effort. As for
snatching, it's highly frustrating. Will a fish feeding just before
will keep them distracted long enough?>
2. On my live rock, I have tons of coralline algae
growing. Colors of purple, maroon, red, green and pink.
On my glass, pumps and base rock (tufa), I only have
one shade of purple growing. I would really like a mix
of colors. Any ideas on how to encourage this process
or why only one is spreading from the live rock to other
areas?
<One is outperforming the others at this given time. What's your
calcium level? Some varieties of coralline won't grow unless high
calcium levels are met. It's just a matter of luck, time and
patience. Perhaps you could graft the variety you like to unclaimed
territory before the more aggressive types have the opportunity?>
Thanks a lot. You guys are a real credit to the hobby
and I would be lost without you (or it least I would not
have such a wonderful tank). <Great to hear! Hope this helps, and
good luck- Ryan>
-Ray
New Liverock Came Shipped Chalky White
Hello Mr. Fenner:
<Steven Pro in today.>
I have never written to you in the past and I spend at least 30 minutes a day
reading all your great info on your website. I just have to say that I find
WetWebMedia very informative. I just love it. I have your book and have pretty
much read it over and over. It has helped me a lot.
<From all of us, thank you for your praise. Be sure to tell your friends.>
Now, here my question if I may. Is there a trick to getting the coralline algae
on liverock to return?
<No trick really. Maintain good levels of pH, alkalinity, and calcium levels
and supply adequate lighting.>
This rock is brand new to my tank. I purchased it from an online dealer (Aquacon).
It is Tonga branch and Hapai, 50 pounds total and has been in my system for
three days. It is as white as white could be, but, I thought I was getting
mostly red coralline covered rock. The rock was shipped this way. This stuff is
expensive!
<Sorry to hear about your bad experience. Will make a mental note for myself
and I am sure many of our readers will do the same.>
My system has been up and running for 7 months now with 40 to 50 pounds of
liverock purchased locally. Now, my system is a 75 gal tank with an Eheim
wet/dry canister, magnum 350 canister, Marineland emperor penguin 400, two power
heads and a prism skimmer (most of the filters were on this tank when it was a
freshwater setup). My water readings are pretty good. Salinity 1.025, pH 8.3,
alkalinity normal to high (the test I have only shows a color chart no numbers),
calcium 450, and I add trace elements, Combisan once a week and Iodine drops
once a week. My lighting is a Phazer compact pendant light with two 55 watt
10,000k ultra daylight bulbs and two 55 watt actinic blue bulbs with a grand
total of 220 watts. Critters are as follows 1 Kole tang, 1 yellow Coris wrasse,
1 yellow tail damsel, 1 Foxface Rabbitfish, and 1 spunky coral beauty angel. I
also have various cleanup critters red hermits, blue hermits, turbo snails,
sally lightfoot crab and a emerald green crab. Then there are the hitchhikers on
the previous liverock. Will this liverock regain its color or always remain
chalk white?
<In time, yes.>
What can I do to bring it back?
<Along with the items noted above, patience.>
Thanks so much for your help. Sherry Spitz
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
Coralline question for Anthony Calfo
This is a question to Anthonalamidingdong, the Calfonator, the Calfitola (ok
I'm done)
<but I'm not done yet: Father Calfo Sarducci, Calfaroni... the Calfster...
Antoine the Beautiful... Antoine the vertically challenged... and once, only
once... Sheila. OK... now I'm done>
in your book "Book Of Coral Propagation." You State on pg 215 in the
section on live foods. That systems that are left unlit for up to a year without
predatory fish include extraordinary coralline algae growth. Sorry I'm para
phrasing.
<understood... but not exactly my sentiment/meaning. I'm referencing
aquarists (many Europeans) that cure their live rock for 6-12 months in the dark
or dimly lit aquarium with regular calcium/alkalinity dosing to boost corallines
without the inconvenience of competitive nuisance algae, grazing herbivores like
urchins, etc. All for the purpose of growing a massive coralline population in
advance of stocking. For us impatient Americans <wink> we can get
similarly good results by resisting hard grazing fishes, echinoderms and
gastropods for at least 4 months, keep Ca and ALK at strong and consistent
levels, and dose Reefchem's liquid calcium generously (a sugar-based organic
calcium that is excellent for spurring coralline growth) >
Your saying it will grow after the introduction of lights.
<nope... during the dimly lit long curing period>
A year later Right?
<indeed a year is for the most patient aquarists. 4-6 months conditioning of
live rock is very fine for most instead with a long view>
The tank wont have "extraordinary coralline algae growths" from just
ambient room light?
<it may very well... but do add some good reef lighting to prevent shock>
By the way love your book maybe one day it will be remade with more pictures so
I wont have to look up things like "Pachyseris" in a coffee table book
for a picture reference.
<indeed a possibility!>
Many thanks to you and the whole crew.
<our great pleasure>
I'm eagerly awaiting your new invert book that I preordered.
<and with our kind thanks>
I'm also hoping for a new Fennerino, Calfster, Book in the future.
<you will not be disappointed, my friend>
Keep on rockin...
<...in the free world and beyond>
Your Compadre in Coral-Steve Buchholz
<your friend with a wicked wedgie, Anthony>
Coralline algae
Bob, my 180 gallon tank is being over run with purple coralline algae. There is a solid blanket on the back glass and I have to scrape the front every two weeks. Any advise on how to slow this growth down?
Thanks tom
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There are a bunch of folks who would gladly trade tanks with you... but there are a few ways to cut back on the encrusting reds. You can cut back on your calcium concentration (are you supplementing? Cut back!). You can add some competitive encrusting green algae... like a Halimeda species... And increase your lighting... this favors non-red algae photosynthates. There are some encrusting red algae eaters... but let's hold off on these and opt for these other controls for now.
Bob Fenner
Is white growth (algae?) on live rock a good thing to have in a reef tank?
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Not a problem... typically these are sorts of encrusting red algae that are missing something (generally biominerals or alkalinity).
Bob Fenner
Reef Redux
Mr. Fenner,
The time has come, and I now must redo my 55-gallon reef tank. My question is if
I scrub and/or boil the live rock, will it ever grow coralline algae again? Or should I keep it wet and simply pull all the little pieces of hair algae off one at a time, and will that work? As always, I thank you immensely for all your help.
Thanks,
Tracy
<Corallines will grow on/over most any hard surface... if you kill the ones on the rock now, other/spores can be cultured on it later. Bob
Fenner>
Too much coralline algae too much?
Can one have too much coralline algae?
<Mmm, it is possible... mainly as a function of it out-competing other biomineralizing livestock for nutrients (principally alkaline and biomineral matter)... and looks-wise, sure... if you can't see into the tank...>
I have a 30 G reef setup and
everything in it is purple! The rock, snails, and hermit crab shells are all
covered with coralline. It's beautiful to look at, yet is it spreading too
freely?
<Maybe... Please read through the coralline algae materials stored on the WetWebMedia.com site. There is a search feature there to hunt by key terms. Bob Fenner>
Lucky, with anemone, clownfish
Dear Bob, Love your site and all the time you have put into it. I have a few questions that I need to ask. I guess that I have been LUCKY, cause I add no chemical and have had my 75gal. for about 4 years now.
<Perhaps lucky, but also smart... there is no to not much need to "add anything" to a properly set-up, stocked and maintained system.>
I have about 45 to 60lbs. of live rock. I have several fish that I still have since I first started. I have just bought a Sebae Anemone and it is fine and the Clown is fine, but they have nothing to do with each other.
<May not be "compatible"... this happens... or may take some time to become acquainted>
It has been about 3 1/2 weeks and still no change. One last thing, all of the live rock and my jets, glass is purple and don't know if this is a good sign or what.
<Better than not>
I live in a very small town in Mississippi, so I don't have very many resources that I can go to for facts.
<We have each other. Bob Fenner>
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