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The cost per unit of useful light PRODUCED and a/your factor for
what you're willing to pay and maintain for LOOKs is the formula for
light fixture/lamp selection. Measuring tools are useful for the
former determination. Lumen, Lux and esp. PAR meters with
"dunk-able" probes.
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writings of Dana Riddle, Sanjay Joshi re |
Wattage measurement 11/20/08
Hello <Ed> I was always under the assumption that the wattage
measurement on an aquarium was an accumulative value of all the bulbs
above the tank. <Tis.> I was recently informed that is not
correct. Two 96 watt CF bulbs are only putting out 96 watts, not 192. Is
there any truth to this? <If you mean one bulb that has twin tubes,
yes. Many of the CF bulbs have multiple tubes connected at the plug-in.>
Ed Raasch
Re: Wattage measurement 11/20/08 Thank you <Welcome.>
Glad to know I'm not completely stupid. edr <Heee, we all have
those moments! Scott V.> Submersible Lux
Meter 1/25/06 Hey All, <Yo, Scott> Do you
have any suggestions for a submersible Luxmeter. I have searched &
searched, but can't seem to find a waterproof unit (sensor). Any ideas?
<Premium Aquatics carries one for $70. Look here...http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=MIL-SM700&Category_Code=Milwaukee Might
want to ask them to insure the probe is submersible.> You all do a
great service to the hobby, many thanks! <You're welcome. James (Salty
Dog)> Scott in St. Louis
Lighting Question,
wherefore art thou measures? 5/24/07 Hi all...
On many sites that sell corals and in books lighting is usually stated
in terms of "low", "moderate", and "high". But exactly how are those
defined? <Various ways by different writers... the best measures are
PAR related, measured at the point of intercept by the colonies... See
the works (many on the Net) of Sanjay Joshi and Dana Riddle here> I
have two saltwater tanks one 20 gallon and one 10 gallon but both are
identical in height/water depth. The 10 gallon has been upgraded from
40 watts PC 50/50 to 80 watts PC 50/50 and the 20 gallon has a 65 watt
PC 50/50 (which I don't want to spend additional money changing
lighting). I consider both to be between moderate to low lighting for
the depth of the tanks. <I agree with the low end> Both lights
on those tanks are on legs which raises the lighting about 4 inches from
the water. Although I've read about "watts per gallon" I find this
difficult to understand when tanks are identical in depth. With that
calculation it would appear my 10 gallon tank is getting 8 watts per
gallon and the 20 gallon is getting only 3 watts per gallon. <Mmm,
yes... but/and the actual useful photonic energy available at/near the
organism in question is really the only valid measure... Many factors
involved... other than rating, consumption values for fixtures/lamps...
angles of dispersion, color in the water, reflector use... among others.
See the Net re PAR meters, measures...> Just a note: the upgrade in
the 10 gallon from 40w to 80w was because the two very small xenia that
came on Nerite snail shells purchased the first week of March have now
split into 8 not so small xenia and all are headed to the top of the
tank. So I sort of hoped higher lighting might keep the ones lower in
the tank happy where they are.... just a thought. <What do folks say
re Billy.G/Microsoft?: "Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated".
Applies to many Xeniid systems> Anyway, a greater understanding of
those lighting terms for corals will help me make the right decisions
for the 20 gallon. My sun corals have been moved to the 20 gallon since
the xenia now leave me little room for handling them in the 10
gallon. Again, thank you so much for this site and everyone's
assistance. Regards, Debbie <Mmm, much that can/could be discoursed
here. Deb, do you participate in a local marine/reef club? I do think
you'd be very happy to be face to face, mind to mind (in semi-real time)
in such an association. BobF> PAR value and lighting
source 10/12/04 Can you please tell me what PAR value is when it
comes to lighting? How does it change with Kelvin and how does it change
when comparing PC to Metal Halide??? Thanks Jeret <Wow! Not such a
simple question. PAR is Photosynthetically Active Radiation. The
chlorophyll in zooxanthellae can only use certain wavelengths of
light. While measurements like Lux or lumens measures total light
output, PAR measures only that part of the spectrum that is useable for
photosynthesis. Since PAR depends on both total intensity and
spectrum, it is very difficult to generalize about different light
sources and unfortunately, manufacturers don't tell us what the PAR is
for their lamps. Authors like Sanjay Joshi and Dana Riddle have done
excellent work to report the PAR values of different lamps and light
sources. Google searches on their names will lead you to their work.
Some generalities can be made... Watt for watt, cooler (bluer) lamps
tend to have less PAR than warmer (yellow/red) lamps. This is because
so much of their energy output is concentrated in a narrow band, while
warmer lamps tend to have output over a wider part of the spectrum.
It is hard to compare between Fluorescent and MH since the spectra can
be quite different, but both technologies produce a similar amount of
light intensity per watt. In other words, 400 watts of fluorescent
produces about the same total light as 400w of MH, it is just more
spread out. Many aquarists forget that they can use much less light
if they use it more efficiently. Using carbon or ozone to maintain
water clarity, using highly efficient reflectors and keeping them clean
and running lights as close as is safely possible to the water all will
dramatically improve the amount of light that reaches corals. Following
these practices would allow many aquarists to use significantly less
light to achieve the same PAR reaching their corals. FWIW, PC lamps
have an inherent inefficiency since they are constructed of two adjacent
tubes. A lot of the light from each tube shines into the adjacent tube
instead of being reflected into the tank. Best Regards! AdamC.>
Light Meters 3/30/2004 Anthony: I am interested in a light meter
to measure the various areas in my tank. I have a few goals in mind:
1) measure values over time to document life and approximate replacement
needs of MH bulbs; 2) get a better idea on dirty lenses, yellowing
water, etc. and their influence; 3) approximately judge the values
that my inhabitants do best at when it comes to compensation,
saturation, etc. <it will help you to do all of these things and
more> Do you think I should get a PAR meter, or would a LUX meter
do? <the PAR meter is a slightly better measure for us> I don't
think I mind the extra cost for a PAR if it is truly the best way to
measure for these purposes. <yes> I have seen PAR meters for
$300 and up, and LUX for around $75. Any guidance is appreciated.
<good things are seldom cheap and cheap things are seldom good ;) Have
you looked at the PAR meters from Apogee? Very nice units and popular
with aquarists> Thanks, Rich <best regards, Anthony> <<Or borrow
one from a club or retailer... RMF>> Lighting/Lux meter 2/8/04
I would like to comment on a practice that has worked for me and am
wondering why it is not more widely used. Most of the problem with
lighting today I feel has to do with intensity, or lack thereof, than
with the quality of light spectrum. Many bulbs today have excellent
spectrums and you can educate your self on this point fairly easily. Its
getting the right intensity on the different unique organisms that is
tricky. I have found using a light meter to be extremely useful in this
regard. The naked eye is a horrific judge of exactly how light or dark
an area of a tank actually is. A method I have found works well for me
is when I go to the local fish store I bring my light meter and a gray
card with me. I simply place the gray card next to the coral I am
interested in and take a light measurement. This gives me a general idea
of how much light acclimation will be involved from there tank to mine.
If the coral seems to be flourishing in there tank will probably put it
in a similar metered area in my tank. Also, when replacing bulbs you can
take a measurement before and after the bulbs have been changed to see
how greatly your light has fluctuated. Generally when acclimating I
always start with one f stop below what ever light they were under
before and work up just to be safe. It is also frustrating when you talk
to someone who has many species in their tank and all they can tell you
is how many watts are in there overhead lights, this gives you no real
picture of how much light is getting to the coral because the intensity
of light can fluctuate greatly throughout a tank depending on its
design. Also, you naked eye is a very poor judge on exactly how light or
dark your shaded areas are( they can be vary deceiving). I know corals
are able to adapted to many lighting schemes but I think as a whole we
could be more accurate as a hobby in keeping light level parameters that
are more accurate than the ones presently used. You can get a good light
meter for $100 dollars or less and given the expense of the animals and
other equipment in the hobby I don't know why they aren't used more. You
can take reflective measurements through the glass or you can put you
meter in a heavy duty Ziploc bag and take ambient light readings. I have
lamented that mail order houses can't give you a light meter reading on
the amount of light hitting the coral you will purchase in there tanks.
Also, its so much more accurate than bright, somewhat bright, somewhat
shady, or what ever those vague terms mean. Hobbyists could pool there
readings and set up parameters for corals that where quite a bit more
accurate in my opinion. Thank You Greg Kirton <thanks you very kindly
for sharing your thoughts/experiences, Greg. They will be duly posted
and shared for all. Best regards, Anthony> PAR Index or Table?
Mr. Fenner and the WWM Crew, <cheers> For as long as I've been
reading your articles about lighting captive reef environments I've
noticed the same response in many threads: "...if you only had a PAR
meter..." <they are quite handy... observing trends in coral health,
color and vigor... influences of water clarity... aging of lamps, etc>
I've invested in a PAR meter (from Apogee Instruments, $300 with sensor,
apogee-inst.com) <yes... very fine> and have been startled at the
remarkably low readings I was getting on the 2 x 250W MH setup I was
running on my main tank. <do consider/realize how severely water
clarity and lamp cleanliness (dust/salt spray, etc) significantly impact
light delivery. Unless you are using ozone or changing carbon weekly...
plus cleaning lamps and canopies weekly... you can expect to lose a
measurable portion of your light> In fact, the distance between
surface PAR in the wild (2000) and what I was getting just a few inches
below the surface in my tank (500) was shocking enough to push me into
400W lights (now getting 1500 at 6"...) <Hmmm... if you are keeping
shallow water species only... perhaps the 400 watters are warranted. For
most aquarists, they are not> My question is this: while in most
cases (excepting aposymbiotic corals of some species, and deep-reef
Corallimorphs) "more is better" in the case of light, <Yikes! You
won't catch me agreeing with that startling admonition. It's not even
close to correct. More is not better at all... under-lit corals can be
supported with feeding... but over-lit corals can/will suffer
photo-inhibition and shut down in time. It's best to offer enough light
to satisfy the maximum tolerance of your lowest common denominator and
feed all other species to compensate> are you aware of any good
references to the range of PAR various animals require to
survive-thrive? <much field data in the academic archives... Alf
Nilsen has published some in the hobby literature (Aquarium Frontiers
for one as I recall... hmmm... Acroporas by species in Winter 1994 part
2 peeping at my bookshelf here)> In other words, while a Montipora
capricornis may get "moderate" lighting in guides about it's care, does
that mean a PAR value of 100, or 1000??? Is a shallow water species of
Acropora meant for a PAR of 750, or 1750? I appreciate your input on
this vexing subject. Thanks, Sean MacKirdy <like RedOx... PAR
values are guidelines not rules... there are many other considerations
in captive coral culture. Track an study... do enjoy... but don't get
too obsessive about it, mate. Kind regards, Anthony> Science or
Hobby? Marine Lighting - 8/14/03 Great website, lots of great
information. I've read the Marine Lighting primer, other articles and
threads, but I can't seem to find any comments on a situation similar to
mine). I know others are looking for this info so I will gladly pass it
along! <a great attitude my friend> I have a 18 gallon tall with
an eclipse 1 hood. I've retrofitted it with A SmartLite (32W) from
Custom Sea Life. I have a deep sand bed (about 4 inches) and 30 lbs
of live rock. Is there a way to quantitatively describe the lighting
at various depths? e.g.) SmartLite 32W - X PAR, Lumens, or Watts at
depth Y <as a useful measure to aquarists, yes... PAR.> Or better
yet an expression for intensity as a function of depth (e.g. I(d) = Io *
e^-kd when d=depth ? <regular readers of the daily FAQs will know
that I have little interest, if not outright disdain, for overtly anal
exercises in mental masturbation that far surpass a sound academic or
scientific curiosity. I will tell you, Jeff, with a mixture of humor and
sincerity that any such discussion regarding the measure of usable light
at depth for corals is staggeringly moot in an 18 gallon aquarium.
Arguably, it is just as moot in our 24 and 36" deep aquariums when the
subjects/objects of our study and admiration (symbiotic reef organisms
at large) found over a much wider range in the sea (many species
commonly occurring in niches separated by 40 or more feet.> Can we
then relate this to species requirements (compensation and saturation
points)? <it can be done, but cannot be fairly extrapolated by
species for the above reason. We do not know where on a reef a given
specimen was collected: Acropora formosa in 3 feet of water... or A.
formosa from 60 feet of water? Doh! The best we can do with such data is
on a specimen by specimen basis IMO... or, with further study to know
the range of tolerance and adaptability for a given species. Now that
would be useful!> Is there any published data? <field data yes...
do pillage the academic archives. In aquaristic terms, however... little
is available. I do recall Eric B chatting about it. Dana Riddle and
Sanjay Yoshi are also very interested in such issues> In the final
analysis, given those parameters, what corals can I realistically expect
to grow? <ahhh... in an 18 gallon aquarium? Well... there are many
many adaptable cnidarians that will grow well in such shallow water.
Finessing light is not your problem, Jeff... controlling growth will be
your reality! Dude... do consider installing a beer meister next to your
reef tank. Either that, or convert a Kalkwasser doser into a heroin
drip. Just a suggestion. Best of luck! Anthony> How much light
is enough? Ok, second question today/tonight. I very much
appreciate the service that you are doing for your fellow (and usually
less experienced) aquarists. It says a lot about a person to put up
with, and answer so many questions from strangers regarding tanks you
have nothing to do with! <Our pleasure!> Anyway, to my setup and
question. . . I am building a 70 (18" tall I believe) gallon reef
tank. I will be using an EV-120 skimmer, and supplementing/buffering as
needed (how is undecided yet). The tank will be home to leathers,
polyps, and mushrooms, and some hard corals including a hammer, and open
brains. I believe that the toughest thing I would like to incorporate
is a maxima clam. After reading over your lighting FAQ's, I am confused
on how to size my compact fluorescents for the tank. My main goal is
NOT maximal growth, it is good health of the animals, and enjoyment by
me! <Yes...not mutually exclusive, in fact, one in the same.
Maximum health equals maximum growth. Any less is less.> I was
planning on going with a CSL 4x96w fixture. Should I go with the
original plan, or would a 4x65w fixture be better if my goal is not
maximal growth? <No, with a maxima clam you need the intensity of
the higher wattage. A clam will still need to be placed at or near the
surface of the water.> Also, I definitely want to run the front right
and left bulbs actinic, and the rear right and left 8800K or
10000K. Does this combination of bulbs play any role in the decision?
<No. I would recommend as even a mixing of bulbs as possible for even
light coverage. 50% 10000 and 50% actinic blue provides a good balance
and pleasant appearance.> Thanks once again, Your confused friend,
Scott <Hope this clears your head my friend! Craig> Lux
Meter Hi, I have a question about Lux meters. If I purchased one,
I could get Lux information for different levels in my tank. How
could I put this information to good use? Is there something that tells
me, you need "x" amount of Lux for coral "a", and "x" amount of Lux for
coral "b"? Most information I read says, certain corals prefer low,
medium, or high amounts of light. Are these meters very useful? <Ahh,
not much use for the average person. There aren't really any books or
references with Lux recommendations. It's easier to understand what is
meant by low, medium, and high and their relation to water depth,
penetration and intensity. It's also best to find the best general
optimal conditions for the inhabitant in question and acclimate up to
that level slowly.> Cheers, Craig Thanks, Angelo Is Lux
the same as lumens (for light parameters)? <Nope. Please see
here:
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci542011,00.html
Bob Fenner> Thank you, Luke Lighting a 120 Reef Hi
Bob, This lighting thing has got to be the most confusing aspect of a
reef set up. <It's one of the principal ones...> Anyway as most
people I'd prefer to buy equipment once and would want to be able to
keep many different types of coral/inverts. I've read on some web sites
that fluorescent light produces as much heat as metal halides do.
<No... not per watt of energy consumed, per light produced... MH much
more heat by its method of photonic production...> They just produce
it in larger area and not so concentrated like the halides. In pricing
CF and VHO vs. metal halides it appears that watt for watt the halides
work out cheaper to set up but not necessarily operate. <Well-stated>
Also lumens seem very important to coral life and not watts although
high lumens means high watts. <Yes sort of to the former... many
stinging-celled life forms need, can use intense lighting... but no to
the latter... you can spend a bunch on power (consumed) and not end up
with much useful illumination> Anyway I'm not sure whether heat would
be a problem on any of the choices since I plan on putting a 100gal sump
in the basement which is about 67 degrees or year round. <Hmm,
perhaps an expensive proposition... you want above all to be able to
simply, consistently, inexpensively control temperature... not "pay" to
heat up the water in one place, lose the thermal content elsewhere...>
I would think that this might help in a stable temp for the display
tank. Which set up would you use ? 2 175 10k & 2 VHO 110 03, 2 250 10k &
2 VHO 110 03 or 4 96CF 10K & 2 VHO 110 03 <For what sorts of
livestock? And what purpose? Are you going to culture, sell fragged
Acroporids for instance? I would go with the last choice if it were up
to me... but many people I know would mix the MH with the VHO
actinics... for looks, production...> or what about the HQI ?
Possibly 2 150 10k and 2 VHO 110. I've read at another board that the
150HQI puts out as many lumens as a 250 MH and roughly equiv. to a 300
watt bulb. <But not useful (PAR) energy at a constant-age rate...
don't get involved here> Sorry to keep bothering you but with endless
opinions on set ups its hard to know which road to go. It seems everyone
swears by whatever lighting they are using usually switching from
another an say I'll never go back to VHO, CF or MH. Thanks Mike <Many
sayings come to mind: "many roads", "to each their own", "if your
brother jumped off a bridge...." All these light fixturing possibilities
will work... with different up front, continuing costs, looks, heat
inputs, biological effects (per your chosen livestock, desires with
same), maintenance issues... Make a chart of all the factors you
consider important, rank/differentiate them (give them oh so many points
each to consider), score the choices per those factors... add up the
points per type/choice/mix of lighting. Voila! Go with the highest
scored arrangement... then get on to the terror of considering what
sorts of filtration you might have... Bob Fenner> Thanks for your
reply. My thinking on the types of livestock would be a healthy balanced
mixture from each category of corals (soft, LPS, SPS)/inverts/fish.
<Sounds good... but do investigate these by species... as there is a
huge range in light use/tolerance within these groups. Many soft and
hard corals are even non-photosynthetic... and other invertebrates,
fishes have low light needs. Bob Fenner>
Bigger is better, but how to light it? Bob, Thank you for
all your past help, and the help I am about to ask for <g>. I am now
the proud owner of a 150 to replace my 75. I know you get a lot of
questions on this subject, so I'll try to be brief. I've looked at
your FAQ's but still... <No worries, and congrats on the upgrade>
The 150 is an Oceanic with the Oceanic cap. My tank is mostly reef
with some fish. I have soft and hard corals, and clams. Acropora is
the only thing that did not do well in my 75 under 4x96 PC, but I
may not be interested in trying them again. I'm not a big fan of the
look of MH pendants, so should I go back to PC or some other MH
solution. You don't need to name brands (though feel free <BG>)
<Always do> , but I REALLY don't like the yellow look so I'm
heading towards a 10k temp. What I would like to know is how many of
what wattage and type you think would make me and my animals happy.
After all, it's not like I can walk into a LFS and see a bunch of
solutions setup to evaluate... <Well... if it were me, mine, I'd
go with about four to six watts per gallon of power compacts in this
case... with about one third/fourth actinic... and possibly conjure
up a way to leave the glass top out from between the water and the
lamps... the 10 K temperature is fine otherwise.> Thank you
keemosabee (sp?), <The medium is the message. You're welcome. Bob
Fenner> Marty Re: Bigger is better, but how to light it?
Bob, Thanks for the sage advice. I've been digesting it all day
and I now understand why not to do metal halide in my case. I am
searching for a good solution in the CF arena, but am also thinking
that 4-5x160 watt VHO might be a good solution as well. I've read
that the Icecap 660 will provide more lumens from the same bulb than
the Icecap 430. Do you know if there is any truth to this? <Yes,
this is so according to the fine folks at Champion> I like the
idea of a 72" bulb, but would appreciate your opinion of using VHO
instead of PC. <The power compacts are "better technology" all
the way around in terms of PAR (photosynthetically active radiation)
and cost per lumen (energy, fixture, lamp replacement...).
Looks-wise, either could be argued. Bob Fenner> Thanks, Marty |
Question?? (re marine lighting "rules") "Dear Bob": Is there a
"rule of thumb" as far as the intensity of light for marine aquariums??
<There are a few... with many stipulations... for shape of the system,
types of livestock, desires of the keeper...> <><>From different
sources I've learned that between 4-6 watts / gallon depending of
invertebrates<><><><>Watts or Lumens???? <Mmm, lumens are a better
measure...> not the same, a 4 watt incandescent than a 4 watt metal
halide therefore different intensity, different lumens <Not different
lumens... different amount/quantity per watt consumed... do read over
the WWM site, the Net re light quantification> Please advice on this
topic thanks a bunch, and keep them beautiful pix coming please!!!!
<Keep studying my friend. Bob Fenner> Light Meas.
have a question about a light I found in my garage. we've had it for
a couple of years and it doesn't get used I think it came from a
race track. its output is incredibly white and bright, however I have no
idea what kind of light it is. the fixture is large and rectangular
(approx 6x10), while the bulb is only a couple of centimeters in
diameter with a length of a couple inches. Halogen? If you know about it
please advise, if the bulb is appropriate as far as K temp and PAR,
might use it on a propagation tank. thanks again, Chris <Hmm, at
this juncture, becoming a culturist, and advanced aquarist all the way
around, I would encourage you to buy a PAR meter... Halogens by and
large actually don't produce much useful wavelengths of light per
kilowatt energy consumed... but about the only way I've been able to
convince folks of this is the meter route... At this point, the cheapest
PAR can be gotten by way of Compact Fluorescents (up to 24 inch or so
depths for most fixtures, lamps) and metal halides (for most deeper
systems), not HQI... Bob Fenner>
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