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FAQs about Red Algae/Rhodophyte Identification 4
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Red Fuzzy Coralline? …Not
likely, perhaps another Rhodophyta – 08/26/07
Hello crew!
<Hi Dave, Mich here.>
I have been researching your site and others trying to figure out what is
growing in my 90-gallon reef.
<OK.>
I have a red feathery/fuzzy substance growing on a lot of my rocks, snails and
hermit shells.
<OK.>
I was wondering if it was a type of coralline and harmless in my tank.
<Only guessing without a pic.>
I am very familiar with cyano and I don't think this substance is it.
<OK, One of many possibilities off the table.>
It is very difficult to scrub off, and grows in high flow areas unlike cyano.
<Still leaves a plethora of possibilities.>
I read a similar query asked by another gentleman on your site. The reply to him
was that it was coralline, and that he should drop some vinegar on it to see if
it bubbled to be sure that it was. I tried this experiment on my substance and
it did not bubble.
<Then it is likely not coralline or any other calcium based organism.>
The other gentleman described it very well, in my opinion, by saying it appears
to look like patches of red mold.
<Many nuisance algae come to mind, red turf algae or red hair algae such as
Polysiphonia, Asparagopsis, Anotrichum barbatum, Gelidium pusillus, or perhaps a
beneficial organism such as a red tree Foram (Homotrema rubrum)
Your expertise would be greatly appreciated.
<A photo might help here.>
Thank you all for this amazing site!
<Thank you for your kind words!>
Dave
Kansas City, MO.
<Mich
Gouldsboro, PA.>
Re: Red Fuzzy Coralline? …Not likely,
perhaps another Rhodophyta... BGA 8/28/07
Mich,
<Hi there Dave.>
Thank you, for your quick and very helpful response!
<Welcome!>
I have been researching your suggested algae species and I am continuing
to have problems identifying which is growing in my tank.
<Yes, does not look like what I was picturing in my head with out the
photos.>
I hope that they attached picture of the red substance growing on my
glass magnet might help you take a better guess at what it is.
<Mmm, pics are helpful. Is not a red tree Foram and likely not many of
the algae I suggested previously, is a nuisance alga, likely a
Rhodophyte, but beyond that I can't tell. Perhaps RMF will comment on
the dailies page.>
<<Is highly likely Cyanobacteria... a quick look under a few hundred
power microscope would show the absence of nuclei, organelles, the
distinctive circular DNA if higher powered... Please read on WWM re
BGA... RMF>>
This is the way it appears everywhere in my tank, (rock, hermit shells,
powerheads) short, red, and fuzzy.
<No fun. Perhaps some improvements in husbandry would help?
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/nutrientcontrol.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/maintenance/marineMaint.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/avoidingalgaeproblesm.htm >
Thank you for your time,
<Welcome, wish I could be more helpful. Mich>
Dave
Mmm, think I forgot to move an image into the emails with images
folder... re: fw: re: Red Fuzzy Coralline? atten: Mich
<No worries... was there somewhere. Found, posted>
Also He stated earlier: It is very difficult to scrub off, and grows in
high flow areas unlike cyano.
<Is almost assuredly BGA... B>
Re: Red Fuzzy Coralline? …Not Likely, Perhaps
Another Rhodophyta... Nah, Cyanobacteria – 08/31/07
Mich,
<Hi Dave.>
Thank you again, for the quick and helpful reply.
<You're welcome!>
I was however disappointed that I could have some yucky cyano in my tank.
<It happens to all of us. Glad you can't see my tank right now!>
Let me give you a little background on my tank and husbandry. It's a 90-gallon
reef with a medium bio-load. There is no detectable nitrites, nitrates, or
ammonia. However with the phosphate test kit that I have, (which is very hard to
read, maybe time for a new one.) I think I may have a slight amount of phosphate
in my water, less than 5ppm (however, with the color chart its very hard to
determine if its actually 0) Calcium and alkalinity are within parameters, and
my ph. stays pretty steady, and high, around 8.4. I have an all-glass model 3
wet dry.
<If you have a wet/dry, you most assuredly have nitrates, if your getting
readings of zero it is because your algae, nuisance or macro is using it up.
Yes, I do keep a close eye on my nitrates. ANS G-3 protein skimmer, which works
great, and I use RO water. I religiously change 4-5 gallons of water weekly.
<About twice that amount would be better.>
I don't have a lot of live rock, around 75lbs, and my sand bed falls into the
poor thickness range, 1 1/2 to 2 inches.
<Nutrient sink and not deep enough to be very helpful with anaerobic
metabolism.>
So I consider myself very conscientious about my husbandry (except if it really
is cyano, it has to be from me being such a sucker to my Kole tang.... he likes
to eat, and I'm easy).
<Heehee! Could be a contributing factor.>
So when I saw that yourself and Bob both think its cyano, it really made me
think about my feeding habits.
<Nix the Wet/dry, deeper sandbed, add some macro, bigger or more frequent water
changes...>
Nevertheless, I took your advice and took a sample of it to the local high
school, where my mother teaches biology and put it under a microscope.
<Cool!>
It took a few adjustments, but I found that this substance definitely has a cell
wall and what appear to be organelles, however I could not identify a nucleus.
If so, does cyano bacteria have anything that appears to be cell walls, because
this substance had a definite structure?
<Yes Cyanobacteria do have cell walls and although they are truly prokaryotic
their internal membranes are elaborate and highly organized and may resemble
organelles. The missing nucleus further suggests Cyanobacteria.>
I understand its very difficult to take stabs at the millions of possibilities
it could be, but your advice has been so beneficial thus far, I thought I'd put
the ball back in your court. Any more guesses would AGAIN be very helpful.
<As Bob suggested, is likely Cyanobacteria.>
Thanks yet again, for your time and dedication to your absolutely wonderful
site.
<WetWebMedia is Bob's baby. I am but a minor contributor to his massive
endeavor. But thank you for these kind words on behalf on Bob on the rest of the
crew.><<Uh huh. RMF>>
Dave
<Mich>
Kansas City, MO.
<Gouldsboro, PA> |
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Please help
me ID and get rid of this Brown Algae 8/22/07
Hello. I've been trying to id this brown algae in my tank so I can
figure out how to get rid of it, but haven't found any pictures that
look like this algae.
<Mmm... not a brown, but a Red: Peyssonnelia sp. An encrusting Red.
Class Rhodophyceae, Subclass Florideophycidae, Order Gigartinales,
Family Peyssonneliaceae.>
Hoping you
wonderfully knowledgeable reefers can help. :) I have some dark brown
algae growing in circular patterns on my rock. Attached are 3 pictures
of the same algae. What concerns me, is how much it has grown in 6
weeks. I looked at an old picture, and 6 weeks ago, there were a couple
spots on one rock that were about the size of the tip of my pinky
finger, and now they've grown into one spot about 2" in diameter. I
thought this algae wouldn't be removable because it looks fused to the
rock, but with some work, I completely was able to remove one circle
about 1.5" in diameter. Came off in very small pieces. I thought it was
slimy, but when I started pulling off pieces, it actually looks and
feels like seaweed / kelp.
My tank is pretty new....has been up and running for 4 months.
My parameters are good, and I feed once a day and try to only give
enough food that the fish can consume within 5 minutes. I use RO/DI
water (Spectrapure MaxCap) with 0 TDS, and faithfully do bi-weekly water
changes (10%). The sand bed looks good. It's just some good size patches
of brown algae on the rock. No hair algae or any other type of nuisance
algae. I had a small spot of bubble algae and turned the lights off for
3 days about a month ago and it disappeared and hasn't come back, but
turning off the lights didn't do anything with this algae. Any idea what
this algae is and what is the best option to get rid of it?
<Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/redalgcompfaqs.htm
and the linked files above>
If I work on pulling it out manually, or using a toothbrush, will little
pieces of it that might not make it to the skimmer, create an even
bigger problem by spreading it around the tank?
<Maybe...>
Just FYI.... I recently added a second power-head to add some flow. (25x
turnover now). I run my T5's for 10 hours a day, and the 150w MH only
runs for 4 hours a day (only softies right now). All bulbs are only 4
months old.
My parameters:
Nitrates, Nitrites and Ammonia are all 0.
Phosphates are .1
PH 8.1
Alk 2.9
Temp 82 going up close to 84 when MH's are lit
Calcium 330
5 small fish in a 53 gallon tank. (2 small Perculas, 1 Purple Firefish,
1 Pygmy Possum Wrasse and 1 Tailspot Blenny)
Thanks!
Pam
<Mmm, a few possible approaches here... Nutrient limitation... the
growing of competitive species... Greens likely... Read on. Bob Fenner>
Re: Please help me ID
and get rid of this Brown Algae 8/23/07
Thank you Bob. I'll start going through the links on the page you
sent me. It looks more brown to me, than red,
<Perhaps the photo itself has some artifactual color influence here>
in person...but I know in the photos I sent, it definitely looks deep
red. Any chance this could be Lobophora?
<Mmmm, not much...>
It's not lifting up at the edges at all, but maybe it hasn't gotten to
that stage yet?
<Bingo...>
If it's definitely a red algae, any way that's best to remove it, or is
manual removal the best option?
Thanks,
Pam....also an avid diver! :)
<Actually, I'd enjoy it... likely increasing light intensity alone would
disfavor either a Red or Brown/Phaeophyte, over a Green... Bob Fenner>
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Mysterious
Red Macroalgae 8/22/07
Hi crew. :)
<Lindsay>
I've browsed the internet, various online forums, and WWM for a few
months now and cannot seem to find what kind of algae I have in my tank.
<It's very likely Botryocladia>
I attached a picture for you to look at. Basically, it's some sort of
red bubble algae I'm assuming, but it's not like any species of
Botryocladia I've ever seen. It also doesn't float, as Botryocladia
should.
<Mmm, doesn't always>
When I touch the bubbles with my hands, they seem to be soft, but the
bases are more tough. As you can see, there is no uniform color
throughout each "bubble" and they are all different shapes. Most are a
more ovalish shape, sort of like a UFO, instead of a circle. When I look
at them, there is a definitely purplish hue on the tops of the bubbles
white neon orange specks throughout. If you look closely at the picture,
you can see what I mean. Also, the bubbles seem to enjoy high flow
areas, and are loving growing on the output of my powerheads. They are
also taking a liking to my snail shells and the exposed skeleton of
fragged SPS corals.
Lately, this algae has bloomed and spread, despite more frequent water
changes, reduced feedings, PO4 removing material, etc.
Any help at all would be much appreciated.
Thank you for your time,
Lindsay
<Mmm, well, I'd siphon/while scrubbing to remove most all of it if it
bothers you... It would likely "lose" to more vigorous Green species
culture... Bob Fenner> |
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Coral ID...
Nope algae Id... Rhodophyta 8/19/07
Would you please help identify this coral.
<Yep, is not a coral. Is a red alga, a Rhodophyta. I've seen it before
and have had some in my own tank. I am blanking on the species name
right now and haven't had much success searching for it. Sorry. It is
quiet pretty and generally does well. Enjoy it!>
I purchased the sun coral about six months ago. This coral must have
been attached to it, although not visible due to size. It has grown to
about 2 inches since. It is soft and translucent. Does not retract when
touched.
<Cheers,
Mich> |
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Please Help
Identify... Rhodophyta 8/10/07
Hi,
<Hi Laura, Mich here.>
I just want to say that all the articles that I have read on your site
have been extremely helpful. At the moment I am stumped as to what type
of plant/algae I have in my tank. I have researched and can't really
find it. If you could please help me identify this and let me know if it
is good or bad I would greatly appreciate it. It has been growing in my
tank for many months now. I trim it back to help control it. None of my
zoanthids seem to mind it much they just keep growing and spreading
pushing their way through. None of my hermits, snails or fish eat it. Is
this a safe algae to have or should I trim and extract all of it out of
my tank. I do have to say that it is pretty and is about the color of
coralline algae maybe a little darker and sometimes it casts a purple
hue at it's edges. I have enclosed a picture.
<Mmm, having a hard time telling from the photo. Is of the division
Rhodophyta. If it is firm and not really flexible it may be a type of
coralline algae, perhaps a Peyssonnelia sp. which would be desirable.>
Again I just want to say you guys are great, sometimes I don't know what
I would do without you.
<Thank you for these kind words.>
Many thanks in advance,
<Welcome, Mich>
Laura |
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Macro Algae ?? 7/21/07
Hello All, I have been enjoying the slow and steady outcome of my newest
setups evolution.
I had come across a small leaf of some sort growing on live rock.
I left it alone and it slowly grew into this (pic attached) in approx. 4 months.
At 9 months now and its twice the size.
Intricate patterns stretch across the (now many) leaves. It appeared near my 7"
Gold Crown Sarco and what was once a "neat little thing" is demanding as much
ooohhs and ahhs. Especially when its the sarcos time of the month..wink wink.
Unfortunately I haven't a clue what it is. I've done my homework here on WWM and
cannot find a match anyone else have an idea?? I'll send a more current photo
after my wife makes me clean the glass. J/K lol I'll take a pic when the daytime
lights are on next time This pic is with actinics only.
David Conway
<Likely a Rhodophyte... but could be a Bryozoan... Need more detail in the
image. Bob Fenner> |
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