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Sick Betta Fish 3/30/09
My Betta fish is three years old possibly older he's always been very
big. For the past few weeks a lump has been growing on the side of
his body above the anal fin toward the back close to the tail fin if
that makes sense. it's starting to grow in the same place on the other
side of his body. it's a silverish white-green color. Now he is also
sitting vertically in his tank breathing hard. He swims to the top of
the tank for air then sinks back to the bottom. He has some brown stuff
hanging between the two ventral fins, but I think that is just poop. I
don't know what to do. I clean his tank once a week, and he's been
eating the same food for three years. Please help!?!
Thank you,br />
Jessie
<Hello Jessie. Three years is a very great age for Bettas, and my
assumption would be in this case that he's simply getting old and "bits"
of him aren't working as well as they did once. Since the lump here is
growing close to the tail fin, and by that I assume further back the
pelvic fins, it isn't going to be constipation. For obvious reasons,
constipation occurs in the abdomen where the guts are, between the head
and the pelvic fins. The part of the body between the pelvic fins
and the tail is all muscle. Any lumps that develop there are
likely to be cysts (which are harmless) or tumours (which are not).
There isn't much you can do about either. Stringy faeces on the other
hand can be (and usually are) caused by constipation. Constipation is
dealt with by abstaining from dried foods (including freeze-dried foods)
completely, and instead concentrating on cooked (or tinned) peas, live
daphnia, and live brine shrimp. All these foods contain a lot of
indigestible matter that helps clear out the alimentary canal. In fact,
Bettas generally are very prone to constipation because of the
limited diet and minimal physical exercise most specimens get compared
to their wild ancestors. So doing this every few weeks for a week at a
time is a good idea anyway. Cheers, Neale.>
Betta fish question, tumour
11/24/08
Hi,
I believe that my beta fish has a tumor. There is a pea sized
black cauliflower looking growth on the bottom of his fin. He is
still eating
normally and acting himself. I found little on the internet
about this and I was wondering if there is anything I can do to
help him. Is there a cure?
Is this some sort of fungus? I did move his tank to a table next
to a window. Could this be the reason for this growth?
<Hello. Tumours are not uncommon on Bettas, perhaps because they
are so inbred. Environmental conditions may be a factor too: a
lot of Bettas are kept in marginal quality habitats, such as
very small bowls. So in terms of prevention, getting good
quality stock and keeping him in a heated, filtered tank around
5 or more gallons in size is the way to go. Cure is more
difficult; just as in humans, benign tumours come and go at
their own rate, and short of surgery there's not much you can do
to speed things up. Distinguishing tumours from Lymphocystis is
difficult; Lymphocystis is common among certain groups of fish.
Lymphocystis is a viral disease that causes (usually) off-white
to coffee coloured nodules or tumours with a distinctive
cauliflower-like texture. Again, there's no cure, and
Lymphocystis tends to go away by itself, albeit over a period of
many months, even years. Lymphocystis is likely caused by
similar things to tumours, i.e., environmental conditions.
Fungus is usually very obviously different: it is fluffy, with
white cotton-like threads and is usually associated with
obviously decaying skin or fin tissue. Cheers, Neale.>
Betta with Ulcer 7/16/07
Hi, <hello> I just found your site and saw you answered questions about sick
Bettas. My Betta has been sick for a while and I am getting very desperate. I
believe he has developed an ulcer on his side (at least that's what they said
when I brought him into the set store). They gave me medicine and I was using
the appropriate dose for about 3 weeks and one night he just got sooo much
worse. He could only float on the top and couldn't keep himself upright, only on
his side. It turns out his carbon filter was rendering the medicine inactive.
<Maybe, but sounds more like an environmental problem.>
I took out his filter and continued using the medication (BettaFix). <Worthless,
Tea Tree oil.> He initially seemed a lot better but for almost a week has made
no other progress. He still rests on his side without moving and doesn't eat
much. He looks uncomfortable and struggles to keep himself upright and to move.
I have tried everything the pet store has recommended (very little) I have even
attempted to find a vet that will look at him (without luck). <Almost
impossible.> This fish really means a lot to me and is a special part of me
life. It is killing me that he is sick. Please any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.
Thank you, Lillian
<95% of all Betta problems are either genetic or environmental. In this case I
would guess environmental. In this case I would greatly step up water changes,
50% every couple days and if the wound seems infected treat with a broad
spectrum anti-biotic. During treatment remove the carbon and change the water
often, as the bio-filter will likely be destroyed.>
<Chris>
Re: Betta with Ulcer
Hey thank you Chris for your response. <Welcome>
I just wanted to let you know what ended up working really well for my Betta
with the ulcer.
I finally found someone at the pet store who knew what she was talking about.
She recommended using a medicine with Nitrofurazone, Furazolidone and potassium
dichromate in it. The brand Jungle sells a product that is called "Fungus Clear"
that has all of these in it. It has worked great!! Everyday my Betta is getting
better and has recently begun eating again and the ulcer appears to be healing.
<Good> I had no idea about what to do and I'm sure other fish lovers whose pets
get ulcers will be writing you and I thought this would be a good thing to let
you know worked. Thank you.
<Thanks for sharing>
<Chris>
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Black bump
under Betta skin 8/24/07
Thank you all for everything you do, it has been extremely
helpful!
<Welcome!>
I've hunted the site and can't find anything specific about
this.
<Lifetime's more to add...>
This question is about a friend's fish, a Betta, about 1 year
old. He's in a 2 gallon filtered, but unheated tank (house is
kept quite warm for an elderly resident).
<Needs to be consistent...>
Water changes are about every 2 weeks and i forbade her feeding
him more than a couple pellets a day :) He gets bloodworms
(dried) for a treat once in a while.
<Okay>
I noticed last week that he had a black bump a bit in front of
his top fin, but didn't get a chance to look up what it might
be. This week I came over and bump is still there, looking about
the same. His behavior hasn't changed, still eating, still
swimming his usual patterns, still flaring for a mirror.
The bump is about half the size of my pinkie nail, on his right
side right at the top, sticking out around a sixteenth of an
inch (hard to tell through water). On his left side there is a
corresponding spot that is not raised, but is also darker than
normal.
<Good description>
I am including an unfortunately not very focused pic ( he hates
the camera, LOL ) but it does show the size and color fairly
well. This is the only altered area I can find on him,
everything else looks normal.
Any help you might provide would be helpful, and very
appreciated.
Sue
<Not much to actually "do" here... there are (more and more
frequent) "idiopathic" tumours appearing on Bettas, other
life... Is/are these an indication of "too much stress",
pollution in their/our environments? Bob Fenner>
Re: Black bump on Betta 7/25/07
OMG, I am clearly a bit worried about this poor fish, so much so I
forgot to attach the pic I said I was sending!!
This is in regard to the Betta with a black bump in front of his
top fin.
<Does appear to be "tumorous"... Only "treatable" indirectly by
good nutrition and environmental quality. BobF> |
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Re: Betta tumor part II: Lugol's Solution – 03/18/07
Dear Crew (Bob?)
<Michelle>
Thank you for your response. Can I administer the Lugol's solution
(found it on-line) to the 40 gallon tank, thus dosing all inhabitants
(i.e. baby whale, Corys, Otos, gouramis, tetras) or should I isolate the
Betta & treat him as an individual. I'd rather not isolate him if I
don't have to.
Gratefully, Michelle
<Can be administered to all... BobF>
Siamese Fighting Fish - Betta, tumour-
03/25/07
Hi there,
<Rebekah>
I have a male fighting fish and I noticed about two weeks ago that he
has a lump on the right side of his body.
<I see this>
I went to the pet store and they told me to put some Splendid Betta Anti
Bacterial Remedy
<...>
mixture into his water but it doesn't appear to have helped at all.
Splash has not lost his appetite at all and is still very active. I have
read in some of the FAQ that Betta's can get tumors and constipation.
<Yes... this is very likely one of the former>
I am wondering which of these it may be. I have attached a photo which I
took of him today and was just hoping that you may be able to help me
out?
Cheers,
Bek
<Mmm, likely Epsom Salt and hope is about all that can be done here...
Please read:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/saltusefaqs.htm
Bob Fenner> |
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Betta question / can fish get cancer? 10/7/06
<<Good morning. Tom with you.>>
Can fish get cancer?
<<Short answer? Yes.>>
I've had my Betta since May 2002.
<<A long time in Betta-terms...>>
He's had a normal appetite and behaviors, but overnight, between his front
side fin.. in front of the fin and face (the part they can flare out)
there's a huge lump on the one side.
<<I would venture that this is not cancerous in nature but more likely the
result of an infection/abscess. Consider that cancer, in overly simple
terms, is an irregular/abnormal growth of cells. The host's body develops
(ironically) additional blood vessels to feed, and remove waste, from these
new cells. (When the "waste" removed from the growth contains cells capable
of duplicating similar growths elsewhere in the body, the cancer is
categorized as malignant. If not, it's considered benign.) The point here is
that such a development is unlikely to occur "overnight" while a pathogenic
infection very well might produce the lump you've observed.>>
He's swimming upright, and eating, but appetite not as good as
yesterday/normal. He's swimming less (but if I didn't feel good, I probably
wouldn't either) he moves okay and his color is still vibrant. With a sudden
huge lump this got me wondering if a fish can get cancer, or if he has
another disorder in light of his age.
<<I would recommend treatment with a product such as Maracyn-Two, which is
effective against internal infections. Treatment is best-performed in a
hospital tank but I would guess that your Betta is kept alone so this isn't
as critical as it would be in a community environment. Follow the directions
very closely and pay attention to any collateral effects such as cloudy
water that might accompany its use. Might answer some questions for you in
advance.>>
Thanks
<<You're welcome and good luck with your pet. Tom>>
Update/reply on My Betta with a "Tumor" - 10/10/06
Over the weekend, I re-set up a one gallon heated & filtered hospital tank
for my Betta and moved him out of the community tank. The one gallon was his
first home for almost 2.5 years with regular water changes. Only thing it
doesn't have is aeration/bubble maker, but with the labyrinth organ and
clean water, I hope that little detail won't be an issue.
<<I like the move. Should be easier on you and your Betta.>>
His tank mates all appear healthy including a couple of surviving molly fry,
now about 3 weeks old and good at hiding in all the plants! I'm wondering if
perhaps Mr. Betta over indulged himself on fry in the last 3 weeks? He has
eaten plenty before without a problem.
<<Easy for Bettas, as with any fish, to over-indulge when the food supply is
plentiful. One of the leading causes of problems that we encounter is when
Bettas have been overfed.>>
I've added the Maracyn-Two, but no apparent changes in the lump. Since Mr.
Betta is about 4+ years old, I'm accepting the fact he's older than most,
and his time to go may be near. He's been a fun friend for sure.
<<Sad as it is to watch a pet approach it’s “time”, it’s nice to know that
the experience of caring for it was time well-spent and fun.>>
The lump is a smidge bigger today (I'm going to *try* and get a picture to
email if I can figure out how). He's been making a small bubble nest, took a
nibble on his Betta pellet and blood worms this morning, but definitely
listless and less appetite and activity from what was norm. Also, whenever
he got frightened a couple times in the past, his bottom fin would turn
whitish at the seam near his body.. and has intermittently changed like
that, so I think it's a sign he's not feeling good.
<<I agree. I don’t know what it would take to “frighten” my Betta since he’s
come to think that any activity around his tank means “chow time”. In Mr.
Betta’s case, I think the age and health issues may make him more skittish
than you’re used to seeing. If you haven’t already done so, I’d recommend
keeping him in a very low-traffic area to keep potential stress to a bare
minimum.>>
At this point, in light of his advanced age, I'm pretty sure my little
friend is going to pass. Any suggestions in terms of "comfort measures" or
what I can do to make his transition to passing on as easy for him as
possible?
<<I would normally recommend some aquarium salt for Bettas but I’m not sure
it would be wise to attempt to acclimate him to this at this stage. Salt
does help with oxygen uptake and coming to the surface for that occasional
gulp of air may start to become more than he’s up to. Of course, keep the
water clean and warm, which you already know. And, other than keeping him
away from possible stress factors, I think you’ll have done as much as
possible for him.
Best regards, Tom>>
Question about Humane Euthanization: - 10/13/06
<<Tom here once more.>>
Mr. Betta is quite the fighter, but I think what appears to be a tumor is not
good. He swims toward my finger when I put it near the tank and is happy to see
me, unfortunately, when he swims, it's in almost a "painful" looking sideway
motion (but he floats on top like normal) and cannot seem to swim well.
As mentioned in my previous messages (saying again in case someone else is
reading/answering this) he is 4 years old and has lived a good life. His quality
of life has obviously deteriorated over the last 48 hours with no meaningful
recovery foreseen, so I'm wondering, is there something I could add to the water
that would just sedate him so he goes into a permanent sleep/passes away
peacefully?
<<I’d like you to take a look at this:
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-most-humane-way-to-euthanize-a-fish.htm.
I’m very sorry that it’s come to this but there are times when ending a pet’s
life peacefully and painlessly is no less an act of kindness than the loving
care you’ve given for the last four years. I’m a little more saddened in your
case because I’ve yet to personally respond to anyone who’s had the wonderful
fortune to keep a Betta as long as you have. My very best to you. Tom>>
Update on Betta with a "tumor" - euthanization question -
10/14/06
<<Hi, SK.>>
Thank you so much for link. The clove oil cost a little more than my fish
did a few years ago, but money well spent. I got your email in time and
after give him a couple of final blood worms which he slowly nibbled, I
added the clove oil. He kinda just sank to the bottom and not moving, but
I'm feeling assured he went peacefully. Added the vodka to be sure the
process was complete before sending him the final journey down the toilet.
After four years of enjoying such a neat fish, I don't know I can ever find
a Betta with the same personality. After 4 yrs, I got pretty attached to
him. Not as sad as losing a cat or dog, but I never thought I'd have that
heavy feeling inside me over fish! He was a Wal-Mart brand veil tail. The
original cup he came in, dated May 2002 (that's how I figured/remembered
when I got him) for $2.95. I do have some pictures of him on my camera phone
-- I'll share a few when I figure out how to transfer them from the phone to
the computer.
<<If it’s not out of keeping, I’m glad that all went well. I’m confident, as
you are, that this was the appropriate action to take. As I mentioned the
last time, it’s really an act of kindness and “humanity”.>>
As for other fish-happenings, I started my first aquarium earlier this year,
with Mr. Betta being the first inhabitant. Since then, I've enjoyed some
Corydoras and, what I first thought were platies, are gold dust mollies. I
discovered one of my mollies' is totally blind. She (was) losing weight and
skinnier than I had seen any other. I figured it was a personality quirk
that she was often alone in the tank, but noticed she doesn't follow my
finger, and at feeding time, just would repeatedly open her mouth hoping
food would drop in - but not actually seeing it like the others. She had
been surviving off feeder tablets and occasionally what fell her in mouth!
Poor thing. Her eyes look kinda funny, but attached photo is her eating now
- at feeding time I put a net up from under her (she doesn't even see it
coming) drop food in, and now her piggies of tank mates get their own share
but she gets hers.
<<I’m always fascinated at the adaptability that fish, in general, possess.
Amazing creatures…>>
Even more interesting - my gold dust mollies were female (and already
pregnant) when I bought them - now one of them has turned into a male! (I
did quite a bit of web searching to make sure I wasn't seeing or imagining
things when that happened.)
<<Guess he figured that drinking beer in front of the TV was a better way to
go! :)>>
I have a fry living in there, now for 3 weeks, but she's hard to take a
picture of because she is solid black - solid black from a gold dust
molly????? I know they come in many colors, but haven't been with others at
the fish store/other fish since about June or July of this year when I
bought them.
<<Female Mollies can/will store semen for months, six to eight months not
being unheard of. For that reason, they can produce fry without even having
contact with a male but one time. Your Molly might not have mated with
another Gold Dust male which could explain the difference in coloration.
There’s also the issue of dominant/recessive genes at play but let’s not
turn this into a biology lesson. :)>>
Thanks for letting me share my fish stories with expert enthusiasts who
appreciate my swimming friends :)
<<Thank you for sharing them with us, SK. We appreciate your “friends” just
as we do our own.>>
SK
<<Tom>>
Betta stomach bulge: could be dropsy, constipation, but most likely a tumor
1/8/07
I have had my Betta for a year and a half. Seven months ago he developed a
bulge on one side. It grew to the point where his scales were not covering
it. This didn't seem to bother him until recently. Now it seems the
bulge has grown to the other side and he seems listless. He also does not
to seem to be eating. Is there help for him or is it time to let him go?
<Sounds to me like it could be a tumor, especially since it was notably
asymmetrical at first. Couple of other things to rule out though, namely dropsy
and/or constipation...do his scales have a pinecone-like appearance, especially
if the fish is viewed from the top? If so, this could be dropsy, which is
usually a symptom of a internal bacterial infection. Here's a picture of an
fish with dropsy:
http://www.fishjunkies.com/Diseases/dropsy.php
Alternatively, it could be constipation; have you ever tried fasting your Betta
for a couple of days, then feeding a frozen, then thawed pea or two (cut up for
the Betta's small stomach)?
Also, Epsom salts are particular effective in relieving fish constipation (and
may assist if a build up of fluid is present, as is the case with dropsy).
However, I suspect, based on your description, length of time the fish has been
affected, etc., that this is a tumor - these are really quite prevalent in the
Betta fish, perhaps due to the over breeding the species is subjected
to. Tumors aren't curable, and sadly, will likely cause the end for an affected
Betta one day. In the meantime, keep the fish comfortable in appropriate
conditions (i.e., isolated, especially in this Betta's case, in a minimum 2-3
gal. filtered tank, with heater kept stable at 80-82 degrees F, weekly water
changes, etc.) Of course, try to get your Betta to eat - what are you feeding
him? Have you tried frozen, then thawed bloodworms or small mysis shrimp? All my
Bettas go nuts for those foods. Also, you can use a drop or two of pure garlic
extract (either from the grocery store, or a product called Garlic Xtreme, made
by Kent) to soak his food in, and hopefully re-stimulate his appetite. If all
this fails, I'm sad to say his time may be nearly up. I've lost a couple of
Bettas over the years to what I suspect are tumors...
Once you've made a definite diagnosis of a tumor, the fish can live a while,
still eating and swimming. If, the fish has stopped doing even these things,
then it may be time, sadly, to euthanize him; best method for that, in my
opinion, if pure clove oil...it simply puts the fish to sleep.
I'll cross my finger for your Betta - hopefully, at the very least, we can get
him eating again.
Best regards, Jorie>
Betta, Growth On Body/Fin - 06/22/2006
2 years ago I inherited my Betta from a family member. I knew nothing about
fish and have been learning as I go along. Last month I noticed a white
spot on his body by his top fin, since then it has grown into a bulge.
<Possibly a tumor or granuloma.... relatively common on Bettas....>
He still eats and his actions are normal. I have tried adding a small
amount of salt to his tank on the advice of a friend and in the last week I
have used Furan-2. The bulge hasn't changed at all, it almost seems to be
getting bigger.
<If it is a tumor or granuloma, it is unlikely to respond to any treatment.>
Any help or guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
<Mostly, I urge you to maintain optimal water quality for him - ammonia and
nitrite ZERO, nitrate less than 20ppm, in a tank of at the very least a
couple of gallons.... Though I can't tell you with any certainty what it is
without seeing it or a good image of it, it's my guess, from having seen so
many Bettas with growths/tumors like you describe, that this is something
that will not respond to medication. Fortunately, however, it may not
affect his health very adversely. Do keep a close eye on it.>
Thank You, -Katie
<Wishing you well, -Sabrina>
Betta With Tumor? 9/25/05
I have attached the two best photo I can take of the
area. Basically it is a tumor looking thing on his lower right jaw
area. I have bee searching like mad for answers but have not had any
results. He is not acting any differently then he has for the past year
that I have had him. Still eats fine as long as the pieces are
small. Seems to have a had time getting larger food into his it is like
he has lock jaw as well. I you could point in some direction to help
that would be great.
< It is an anaerobic infection under the skin the you could try a
combination of Metronidazole and Nitrofurazone. If it is a worm type of
parasite then you could try Clout or Fluke-tabs. If is truly a tumor
then no medication will help.-Chuck>
Doug Denny |
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Do Bettas Get Tumors? - 09/03/2005
Hello There,
<Hi.>
I've had my Betta for about 2 years and he's always been in good health-- happy,
moves around a lot, eats well, etc. and yet over the past 2 weeks he has
developed a strange growth by one of his eyes. It started out as a whitish/gray
dot, (I actually at first thought it was a piece of food that had landed on
him!) but then grew by the day and is now a quite pronounced bubble-looking
growth. Do Bettas get tumors?
<They can, yes.>
What could this be?
<Could be a tumor or granuloma, could be Lymphocystis....>
His behavior hasn't really changed--he's still acting healthy--but I'm starting
to worry about whether his vision will soon be impaired (it's bubbling out right
over his eye) and I also think I might be detecting a small white do on his
back, which I worry will turn into the same growth. I've been reading everywhere
and can't seem to find out what these symptoms mean.
<Try a search on "Lymphocystis" and be sure to maintain impeccable water
quality, with nitrate as low as possible. This viral disease is often beaten by
improving water quality, but is not otherwise treatable. Fortunately, it's very
rarely harmful or fatal. Other possibilities do include tumor(s),
mycobacteriosis....>
Thanks for your time, I love my little guy so much and am starting to get more
than a tad concerned!
<Understandable. Unfortunately, as you describe it, it does not sound like
something easily "fixed" like a bacterial infection. I would just maintain
optimal water quality and continue to give him great care. Sounds like he's in
good hands.>
-Erin
<Wishing you and your scaly pal well, -Sabrina>
Tumor-like growth on Betta
Hello,
<HI...Jorie here>
First I'd like to say your web page is very helpful and informative. Thank you
for making this resource available.
<You're welcome. I can honestly say that I learned almost everything I know
about aquariums and fishkeeping from this site, so I, too, am grateful for it!>
I've a Betta that has a problem. He eats fine, but his demeanor is somewhat
erratic. He startles easily at times, makes darting grabs for his food and
circles the bowl at speed.
<Hmmm...I'm not sure that this behavior by itself is odd for a Betta, unless
you've recently noticed a change. Bettas all seem to have their own little
personalities, and this doesn't sound unlike some of the ones I've kept in the
past.>
He's developed a swollen tumor-like growth on his side, discolored black and his
tail is diminished, also with black along its outer edge. Is there anything I
can do to treat him?
<OK, this is obviously the sign of a problem. First of all, have you tested the
water you keep your Betta in for ammonia, nitrite and nitrates? Also, a bit more
info. would be great...how big is the tank you keep him in, how long has it been
set up, what's the temperature of the water and also the pH, and does he have
any tankmates?
With regards specifically to the growth, is it symmetrical or not? Are his
scales protruding? If so, that could be a sign of dropsy, which is in fact a
symptom of myriad diseases. Or, more simply, the fish could be
constipated...have you noticed if he's pooping? If it is constipation, adding
one or two tsp. of Epsom salt per 5 gal. of water should help, along with trying
to feed your Betta a frozen, then thawed, pea (some go for it, some don't). You
would want to fast him for a few days prior to the pea, as well, which may make
it more enticing and should also help with the constipation. If this is an
asymmetrical lump, or tumor, as you said earlier, it could also be a tumor. How
long have you had this fish (how old is he, if you know)? Many older Bettas
(normal lifespan is between 2-3 years) do seem to develop tumors as they age,
and I have yet to find anything that will cure it. As long as the affected fish
is swimming normally, eating normally, and generally looks OK, I think he's
fine...it's when the fish starts losing his appetite, laying on the bottom,
etc., that I would start to recommend euthanasia.>
Regards,
Lee Cutler
<Hope this information helps. If you can get back to me with a little bit more
info., I can better help you diagnose the problem, but right now, it seems as
though it could be one of several things. Good luck! Jorie>
Re: Tumor-like growth on Betta
Hi Lee,
I'm trying to envision what this growth looks like, and I'm having trouble,
based on your description. I don't think I've personally ever seen anything
like that. What I meant by "protruding scales" can also be described as a
"pinecone effect"...if you look at your fish from the top, does he look like a
pinecone? Doesn't sound like it, from your explanations, but just wanted to
clarify.
I would suggest you step up the water changes in that 1 gal. bowl...personally,
I'd suggest doing a 50% change 2 times per week, optimally. If you can't do
that, at the very minimum do a weekly change. Keep his water clean and
hopefully his "sore" won't get infected.
As I said earlier, if he's eating, swimming, pooping, etc. normally, I think
everything is OK. Perhaps this is yet another manifestation of the
tumor-phenomenon I've seen in older Bettas...sadly, there isn't much you can do
when that happens. I'd like to do some research to figure out exactly what is
causing this in captive-bred and raised Bettas - maybe some genetic deficiency
resulting from overbreeding? Who knows...when I get some spare time, I plan to
investigate!
Good luck to you and your fish,
Jorie
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Odd lump on my Betta's tail
Hi guys
<Rex>
What a great resource for novices such as myself! I've looked through
your FAQs and bulletin boards and while I've discovered similar
questions about Bettas with lumps, they've been on the fish's body
rather than it's fin. I hope I'm not wasting your time asking a PAQ...
if so, feel free to sigh deeply and point me to the appropriate answer!
<Will try>
I've had Benny the (Betta) Fish for two years now. He was named after a
Mafiosi character - same expression, same temperament ;-) I bought him
when I arrived in Australia and he's been my closest friend since.
<Good name, spiel!>
He's lived in the same bowl (capacity approx 3.4 litres) and has not had
any new objects or plants introduced for several months. He lives alone
and eats 3 to 4 bloodworms a day. His water is kept at 28 degrees C and
is totally changed once a month (treated, stood, and brought up to
temperature before he's put back in it). In winter around a third of
his water is taken out and replaced each week, while in summer the same
amount tends to be lost through evaporation and replaced in smaller
amounts more regularly.
<Okay... though the diet would be better if more diversified>
He seems happy (well, grumpy, but you know what I mean) and still has an
appetite.
However, over the past two weeks I've noticed a lump developing on his
tail fin. I first noticed it about the size of a pinhead, and started
him on a treatment of BettaFix (antibacterial, tea tree oil
based). However this has had no visible effect and in fact the lump has
grown... it seemed as though two smaller lumps grew in the same vicinity
and merged with the first one. I'm attaching a pic to supplement my
description.
<A good image>
I'm concerned that whatever it is may grow towards his body and
adversely affect his vital organs, or his ability to swim, or *gulp*
kill him :'-(
<Appears to be a subcutaneous tumor of some sort... not likely fatal...
though your Betta is getting "older"...>
As I said, I'm in Australia, so some of the brand names referred to here
are unfamiliar. So if suggesting medication, please try to include a
description of the ingredients and/or their proper chemical names
(usually found on the bottle).
Thanks so much for your help.
Rex
<No medication per se suggested... other than amending the fish's diet.
Perhaps some prepared "Betta pellet" foods, or adding some liquid "baby
vitamins" (for humans) to the bloodworms, may reverse this growths
progress. Bob Fenner> |
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Lumpy Betta
It could just be old age...I've had him over 1 1/2 years and I know
they're often 1+ years old when they're in the pet store. In any case,
here's his history. Lex lives in a 2 gallon tank w/ some rocks on the
bottom and a plastic plant (at first I tried live plants but they died
and mucked up his water). I've been changing his water every 1-2 weeks
and dechlorinating it. Shortly after I first got him he developed fin
rot but I gave him medicine and put a heater in his tank and now he's
been fine ever since. In the last 2 months I've gotten another beta and I've
begun adding
aquarium salt (1/2 t) to each of their tanks. I keep them in separate
tanks right next to each other. At night I put a piece of card board
between they're tanks and feed them (3 beta pellets each). During the
day I take the card board away (between 3-4 days a week) so they can
flare at each other if they want. Lex continues to be active, eats voraciously
and always comes up to
say hi when I'm there. About 3 months ago I noticed a white spot on
one of his fins so I put more medicine in his water. The spot hasn't
gone away but it hasn't increased in size, multiplied or affected his
behavior any. Then last night, when I had a lamp on next to him, I
noticed that he has a lump on his side past his gills - it must've
started to develop within the last 1 1/2 weeks - that's the last time I
changed his water. Could it be that the new beta is stressing him out? Could it
be the
addition of aquarium salt? Could it be old age? What, if anything,
can I do? Thank You!!!
<<Hello. The fin spot sounds like fish pox, or Lymphocystis. . It is a viral
infection that generally goes away on its own. Probable cause is stress. Same
with the lump. You could try separating them to see if it helps. In any case, I
don't think your white spot is a parasitic problem, three months is too long for
it to be ich or any other parasite. One thing you should do is get both tanks'
water tested. If there are filters, test for nitrates, if there are no filters,
test for ammonia. High toxin levels can be a serious cause of stress. Better
yet, test both tanks for all three: ammonia (should be zero), nitrites (should
be zero), and nitrates (keep as low as possible with waterchanges, like around
20ppm) -Gwen>>
Growth on female Betta
I hope that you can shed some light on a problem that
I am trying to solve. My female Betta has what looks
like a growth that surrounds her right pectoral fin.
I have used Maroxy and Maracyn, both for 10 days, and
there is no change.
<I see what I believe you are referring to. Looks to be a sort of tumorous
growth. Not likely to be affected by external medications>
Whatever it is has spread to her left pectoral now and
I am at a loss to figure out what it is and whether it
is a growth or something else that I can treat. Could
you please help? I have attached 3 digital pictures
and I can send more from different angles.
Anthea
<How old is this fish? Or, how long have you had it in your care? This
specimen does seem pretty "girthy"... Does its ovipositor (like a white dot
at the vent) ever protrude? What do you feed your fish livestock? Do you
have any recent water chemistry, physical testing you can relate to me? Like
pH, hardness of the system water. The first line of treatment here is
nutritional... we will discuss this further. Bob Fenner> |
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Re: growth on female Betta
Bob,
I am aware that bettas do not generally live longer
than 2 years or so, I do know people who have had them
for 5 - 9 years, believe it or not, an exception to
the rule *smile*
<Yes... I washed Betta bowls for two years (some involvement in the trade now!
My hands are still dish-panned...) back in the 60's overseas. We had a few
prized male breeders that were 4 to 5 years old>
HBH do not make any medicated foods and when I looked
at the tetra site, I was not sure which medicated food
you were referring to. They have bacterial/fungal and
parasitic, which do you suggest I start Morgana on?
<The first, not the parasitic>
Also, would it be beneficial for her to include frozen
or live food in her diet?
<Yes, even to soak same in vitamin, HUFA supplements for fifteen minutes plus
before offering>
I try to feed them within
my financial means and I will find a way to obtain
these foods if it will benefit her.
<Good>
Returning to the medicated foods, should I use Romet B
or one of the tetra foods?
<I would utilize the Tetra antibacterial, ant fungal>
Many thanks again for your prompt response.
Anthea
<You are welcome my friend. Bob Fenner>
Re: growth on female Betta
Bob,
From what I have found out so far, the HUFA
supplements are for marine life. Could I rather use
the Kent Zoe Freshwater supplement?
<You could, yes. Very similar>
I have included
an email link with a variety of options if this one is
not a good one. If you could advise the best option I
would appreciate it.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/sc_view.cfm?siteid=6&pCatId=4245
<Thank you for this. In my order of preference: Multi-Vit, Bio-Vit, Zoecon. Bob
Fenner>
Many thanks
Anthea
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Betta has "lump" and sinks
Hello, I just ran across your site and I am very impressed with all the
knowledge.
<<Thank you very much!>>
I have been looking for any information that might help me in my quest. I have
several Betta's (mutts) from the pet store and they are doing fine but a friend
has one that I am baby sitting right now that has a lump on his side. I guess
the best way to describe it is it looks like someone shoved a pea down his
throat it sticks out really bad on one side and then just slightly on the other
side. He is eating very well but doesn't get off the bottom of the bowl. I
have been treating him for swim bladder but it's now been 2 weeks without any
change.
<<The sitting on the bottom sounds very consistent with swim bladder disorder
but I’m at a loss on what would be causing the lump. If you could send me a
picture I may be able to tell more. If it is swim bladder disorder, this is very
hard to successfully treat. Generally, regardless of treatment, the fish will
continue to just rest on the bottom. However, the fish can and often do live
very happily even with this problem. I had a female that lived for quite some
time with it and she was one of the happiest Bettas I ever had. She always
displayed the best colors and always got very excited whenever someone walked
near her tank. I did have to make sure to change her water quite often as it
became fouled very rapidly due to the low level I had to keep it at but that was
the only exception I ever made for her.>>
I started him on a treatment of AMPICILLEX with the hopes that it was something
bacterial. But no changes yet.
<<Epsom salts has been used successfully in some cases of SBD but most of the
time there is nothing that can be done. It’s worth a try though, use the Google
search box at the bottom of www.wetwebmedia.com to search for either swim
bladder or Epsom salts for more info.>>
I am keeping in a very small bowl with just enough water to cover him plus about
1/2 an inch above him so he can get to air. I am at a loss. He did come from
one of the "Betta death lily bowls" so I am not sure what kind of conditions he
was in all the time but I am sure they were not good as I saw the plant and it
was all full of fungus when she took him out. Any help could be wonderful.
<<Thank you (and your friend!) for rescuing him! These lily vases are quite
beautiful but I feel so sorry for the poor fish that are kept in them. After
reading this it’s possible that he has a tumor of some sort due to the poor
water quality that he was in before. Still do send a picture if possible
though.>>
Thanks. Sandra
<<You’re welcome. Ronni>>
Re: Betta has "lump" and sinks
After looking around on your page some more I found a picture of exactly
what this guy looks like (except yours is a female.
http://www.geocities.com/stariel25/sick.html I will start with the Epsom
salt in the a.m. and hope (and pray) that does something. Wish I knew if this
female in the picture survived. Thanks, Sandra
<<Hmm... I’m still not positive even after seeing the picture. :o( It’s possibly
just a side effect of the SBD so try the Epsom salts and see if that helps.
Sorry, I wish I could be of more help! Ronni>>
Re: Betta has "lump" and sinks
Hello, I just ran across your site and I am very impressed with all the
knowledge.
<<Thank you very much!>>
I have been looking for any information that might help me in my quest. I have
several Betta's (mutts) from the pet store and they are doing fine but a friend
has one that I am baby sitting right now that has a lump on his side. I guess
the best way to describe it is it looks like someone shoved a pea down his
throat it sticks out really bad on one side and then just slightly on the other
side. He is eating very well but doesn't get off the bottom of the bowl. I
have been treating him for swim bladder but it's now been 2 weeks without any
change.
<<The sitting on the bottom sounds very consistent with swim bladder disorder
but I'm at a loss on what would be causing the lump. If you could send me a
picture I may be able to tell more. If it is swim bladder
disorder, this is very hard to successfully treat. Generally, regardless of
treatment, the fish will continue to just rest on the bottom. However, the fish
can and often do live very happily even with this problem. I had a
female that lived for quite some time with it and she was one of the happiest
Bettas I ever had. She always displayed the best colors and always got very
excited whenever someone walked near her tank. I did have to make sure to change
her water quite often as it became fouled very rapidly due to the low level I
had to keep it at but that was the only exception I ever made for her.>>
I started him on a treatment of AMPICILLEX with the hopes that it was something
bacterial. But no changes yet.
<<Epsom salts has been used successfully in some cases of SBD but most of the
time there is nothing that can be done. It's worth a try though, use the Google
search box at the bottom of www.wetwebmedia.com to search for either swim
bladder or Epsom salts for more info.>>
I am keeping in a very small bowl with just enough water to cover him plus about
1/2 an inch above him so he can get to air. I am at a loss. He did come from
one of the "Betta death lily bowls" so I am not sure what kind of conditions he
was in all the time but I am sure they were not good as I saw the plant and it
was all full of fungus when she took him out. Any help would be wonderful.
<<Thank you (and your friend!) for rescuing him! These lily vases are quite
beautiful but I feel so sorry for the poor fish that are kept in them. After
reading this it's possible that he has a tumor of some sort due to the poor
water quality that he was in before. Still do send a picture if possible
though.>>
Thanks. Sandra
<<You're welcome. Ronni>>
Betta has "lump" and sinks
I thank you again for your information. I am amazed and
very thankful for your site, it is incredible. I just have one
small question. I am keeping this guy in only about 1 cup of
water total and how do I do a salt bath? Is there a time frame
as to how long he should or should not be in the salt?
Thanks, Sandra
<<If you mean a salt bath with aquarium salt then it should be done in a
separate container and he should be left in for 3-5 minutes. If he starts
looking overly agitated, take him out sooner. If you mean the Epsom salts I'm
not sure as I've never used it, search www.wetwebmedia.com and you should be
able to find the correct procedure. Good luck! Ronni>>
- Brown Lump on a Betta -
Hello, my name is Vanna, and I have a question about my Betta Fish. <Hi,
Vanna, JasonC here...> Well, A couple of days ago I've been noticing a lump
under my fish around his fin area. Just recently the lump has gotten really big.
It looks brown and I think it's growing still. Maybe it's a parasite or a
fungus but I've been on sites and there's nothing that they have that describes
what my fish has. <Yeah, it's hard to find data on 'a brown lump', but some
other looking around leads me to believe this might be a tumor of some type.> I
don't know what it is but I'm really worried about my fish. It lays on the
bottom of the tank and it's not really aggressive as it used to be. <Depending
on the nature of the growth, it may be moving in multiple directions - inward
and outward.> I fed my fish 3 pellets 3 times a day. Sometimes it won't eat it
all and other times it will. Now I think I'm over feeding him so I'm only
feeding him 3 pellets 2 times a day. He still blows bubbles so I don't know if
he's okay. I only had the fish for about 3 months, I got it on my birthday. Well
if you know what is wrong with my fish can you please help? <Well... best to
just keep on with the feeding and keep the water quality tip-top. The lump may
rupture revealing itself to be something else, perhaps parasitic in nature that
would respond to treatment, but if it's a tumor there is no treatment for it.>
I'm really attached to this fish and I would like to help him because I know
it's not his time to go. Thank you.
<Sorry to be the bearer of no-so-good news. Cheers, J -- >
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