- Salt water aquarium set up 6/27/06 -
Hi Bob,
<JasonC here today.>
I am looking for someone to set up a salt water aquarium in my home.   I live in Macon Ga,  Do you know of anyone in this area?
<I personally do not, however you should make this inquiry at any/all of the fish stores in your area. Likewise, keep your eyes on our daily FAQs as someone may post an answer after they see this question.>
Thanks,
Cathy
<Cheers, J -- >

Connecting Tanks    6/26/06
I love the website and the books!
<Thank you for the compliment - we do try!>
I own a 55 gallon with 80 lbs of live sand and 55 lbs of live rock. All parameters are looking good.
No trace of ammonia. <Nitrite, Nitrate? What I like to refer to as the ANN levels (Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate).> The tank includes a wet/dry trickle filter with bio balls and the Coralife Super Skimmer.
1 - Coral Beauty Angelfish
3 - Green Chromis
2 - Ocellaris Clownfish
3 - Peppermint Shrimp
36 - Blue Hermit Crabs
4 - Turbo Snails
1 - Hairy Mushroom
I've never seen this done at home, but I was wondering if I could connect the 55 reef tank to a second 55 gallon.
<Of course you can!>
I have just bought the second tank and am not sure what I want to do with it.
<I suggest you decide this before considering whether to connect - some combinations may be less beneficial than others. For example, a predatory fish tank sharing water with a delicate reef environment may diminish water quality in the reef aquarium.>
I was thinking of splitting up my fish or keeping one as a 55 gallon reef and the second 55 to become something like a refugium or fish only tank.
<Using one as a refugium or similar system - for example a frag tank, would be a fantastic idea. The main benefit of this would be to double the volume of water in your system and hence increase chemical stability. Though you will need to make sure that any equipment that you are using is sufficient to meet the demands of this increased volume.>
Is this a terrible idea?
<Not at all - in fact you will probably find it to be very beneficial depending on how you employ the second tank.>
I need some advice on the pro's and con's. I'm also not sure how to connect them.
The LFS suggested an overflow box.
<I agree. You will need two connections, as per a standard sump/refugium layout, of which one gravity feed the water from tank 1 to tank 2, whilst the second connection will mechanically pump water back to tank 1, ensuring water circulation between the two systems. Best of luck!>  
Thanks for the help! You guys are the greatest.
See you at Houston. - Anne

Set-Up...Plumbing, Pump Size   6/22/06
Hi every one (newbie to reefing from UK here) I've been searching  through WWM but cant seem to find an answer...
I'm setting up a 5ftx24x18 reef tank and I would like to know what size pipes, how many pipes, sump tank, and return pump I would need for it to be a  winner.
I would be great full
<grateful>
of any help/advice you can give.
<In your 110 gallon tank, if no powerheads are to be used, I would recommend a pump of at least 1200 gph, and minimum drain pipe of 1.5 inches in diameter, a
15 gallon sump, and four 1/2" return lines to the tank at equal spacing.  You can make a manifold out of PVC tees that can screw into the pump outlet.  Read here and related articles/FAQ's above title line also. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/plumbingmarart.htm  In future queries, please do a spelling and grammar check.  It saves us much time if we do not have to do this for you.  Thank you,  James (Salty Dog)>
Thank you for your time
<You're welcome.>

Re: First Salt Water tank... for sure   6/17/06
see additional below ( in color and not in caps) and thanks!
<<My further responses in double carats. RMF>>
Hi,
I am in hopes of guidance because after someone recommended your website I was amazed of all the answers... too many.
<Not possible... they are indexed, there is a competent search tool...>
This was a complement but still so much information but applies to a wide variety so it becomes general
<<I see... thank you. Do you have ideas on how this information might be better presented, organized?>>
My problem is that I decided I finally wanted to start my first salt water tank and the Local Pet Shop recommended for ease to start with a Reef and
add fish as I go along. SO that is what I am trying to do.  I truly love the look and am sure I will love the hobby.  Part of the problem is that I went
into this not realizing that this would be such a money pit.
I shopped and shopped and now have the following set up.
*    145 gal Acrylic Cube type Aquarium 36" wide x 30" deep by 30" high.
<Very tall... hard to light, get your arms (hope they're long) into...>
:)
o    The tank is plumbed underneath the back overflow inside the tank
<?> In other words I do not have to hang anything on the tank.  The fittings are below the tank under the overflow
<<Ahh, I see>>
*    30 gal sump (no filtration or internal walls, simply a tank
*    ASM G2 Skimmer
*    150lbs of Live Rock
*    100lbs of Live Sand
*    Gen-X PCX 40 Pump
*    Tunze Stream 6060 Pump
*    250w Pendant Metal Halide
*    SCWD current switching device
*    Kent Marine Aquadoser 5: Float switch and auto-refill
*    Rio 2500 powerhead pump
*    UV Sterilizer (not sure of make or model)
Any comments about the about equipment and how it will serve me?
<<Good to medium choices in product lines... but relatively complete, should work... with some careful set-up, maintenance... I'd make a daily, weekly, monthly, more periodic checklist here>>
The main problem is that I got 100 different directions.  Since I am a total rookie, I wanted first to master the easy way to do the reef and then play with it as the previous owner did.
<No shortcuts here... you need to learn what you're doing...>
You make it seem that you have to know what you are doing in order to do it, there is no help along the way?
<<Mmm, unfortunately not many... After a few decades of effort in trying to "make known what needs to be made known" in person and in writing, it is my steadfast opinion that the "field" of marine aquarium keeping is/has become so complex that a semi-thorough grounding in some aspects of science (biology, chemistry, physics...), engineering... even psychology (!) are called for, ahead of actual purchase, install of these systems. Too easy otherwise to experience (deadly) failure... and/but on the plus-side, the more-you-know commensurately the greater will be your enjoyment, fulfillment with the experience>>
I had a guy come out to set up my tank for me (Recommended by the Local Pet Shop) The guys told me that I had no filtration going on so he recommended
that I put bio-balls in my over-flow. He hooked up my UV sterilizer and I put in about 200 bio-balls in the over-flow (didn't make a dent).
The guys that sold me the tae told me that I shouldn't use a UV Sterilizer or the bio-balls.  The guy that sold me the Skimmer told me to use the UV sterilizer.
This was my biggest problem as the previous owner sez not to use the sterilizer and the bio-balls and the guy that set up my tank sez I need them. I am hoping for some guidance here.
<<Is posted... we have a few tens of thousands of visitors/users daily... Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/UVFAQs.htm
and http://www.wetwebmedia.com/bioballfaqs.htm
and the linked files above in these series till you understand "enough" to make up your own mind>>
I am totally doomed!
<I wouldn't go that/this far>
I picked up a book (Natural Reef Aquariums, Tullock)
<Know John well>
and it just provides a lot of suggestions but not for my particular case.
Can you help?  If I don't do the bio-balls what filtration am I using?
<Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marsetupindex2.htm
See the blue file names? These are links... read the ones on filtration>  thanks for the help with that one If I don't use the UV Sterilizer am I more likely to get sick fish?
<Whether or not... see WWM re UVs...>
  I thought the UV sterilizer was an easy answer to a possible complicated problem.
<Is a useful tool, not a cure-all by any means>
So are you saying to create a reef with coral, a UV sterilizer is okay?
<<Is "okay", but not necessary... is a useful adjunct, tool to otherwise good/complete filtration and maintenance practices>>
Needing help.  BTW, how do I become a member?
<We don't do/have memberships... by participating, reading, writing... you are>
Michael Grose
<Take all this a bit at a time Michael... not hard, but involved... can, will become engrossing, but needs your giving/taking. Bob Fenner>
<<Are you sure you want to "do" marine aquarium keeping Mike? Many busy folks have others set-up, take care of these systems as more "kinetic art" than involved aquarists... I strongly encourage you to consider this... Perhaps you'd do better/best by reading over another "complete" work on the subject. I am the author of The Conscientious Marine Aquarist (in the same series as John Tullock), but there are many other worthy written works on the subject. Bob Fenner>>

- Marine Aquariums... pondering possibilities  6/15/06 -
WWM Crew -
New to WWM and loving your site (wish I would have found it sooner)!
I've scoured for many hours trying to find info related to my questions but I have been unable to nail down the specifics of what I'm in need of answering, so here goes.....
Quick history:
Live in Michigan. Currently have a 55 gallon marine tank (8 yrs old) with 5 fish (clown, pink spotted goby, cardinal, royal Gramma, Foxface) and live rock. Closest LFS is 35 minutes away. I've saved $3000 to put towards my next marine adventure. I'm at a point where I've saved enough money to expand on what I have and I'm toying with two different possibilities for the next step.
Possibility #1 - spend the entire amount on one awesome large tank. <Believe it or not, $3000 won't get you very far in the "awesome" department in marine tanks. That budget could get a pretty decent 75-90 gallon tank started (as in up and running), but not quite all the way to the finish line (fully stocked with nothing left to purchase).>
Possibility #2 - spend the money on many smaller tanks to keep a rather large assortment of fish and with the help of my son (who is in the process of converting his own freshwater tank to marine) start our own mini-store in our finished basement.  For me this would be a benefit... I could continue to observe many varieties of fish and also possibly make enough money to break even. <While this would be fun from a hobbyist angle, it will likely never be a profitable enterprise and will most likely barely pay the electric bill. Not including the fact that unless you pick lots of small fish, then lots of small tanks is less than ideal for anything of size for anything beyond temporary holding.>
I'm leaning towards #2 and here's some questions/comments-
What size tank would you recommend if I was to have approximately 10 tanks? <55-60? Depends more on how much space you have and the fish you want to keep. Larger is always better.>
(I've looked into the MaRS Retailer System vs. buying 10-20 gallon tanks and outfitting them each with a bio-wheel, heater, hood.  The tanks come out cheaper but would that be the best way to go? <For retail display systems, this is a better way to go, but the design of these systems is based on a wholesale/retail holding system and not long term care.>
Will just a bio-wheel be adequate to maintain the tanks? (on my current tank I have a canister filter, protein skimmer, powerhead) <A protein skimmer always helps.>
Recommendations/contacts for livestock, food, aquariums in the Michigan area? <If you're in the Ann Arbor area, look up Tropicorium. If you're in the East Lansing/Lansing area, look up Preuss' Pets.>
Is this insane? <Not insane, but perhaps not completely thought out. Do consider carefully what it will cost you on a reoccurring basis to maintain a large holding system - will this really make you money or just drain it out of your wallet? If you want to make money, then you need to approach this like a business which means you need a business plan, marketing research, etc. - is there anyone around to make money with? This is just a start, but going through these motions should influence your decision.>
Thank You for your time
Brian
<Cheers, J -- >

New 90 Gallon Setup    6/6/06
  Dear WWM Crew,
<Scott>   
  I am getting ready to expand an existing 40 gal (no sump) LR setup and have been pouring over your website for weeks now for your expert guidance (thank you!). Current non-fish "residents" are a diadema, two cleaner shrimp, peppermint shrimp, some star polyps and zoanthids (LR stowaways) and a turbo snail. All doing very well. Fish include a purple firefish, flametail blenny and a magnificent golden angel that is currently in separate quarantine.
<Centropyge aurantius? This angel species needs many times this many gallons of space>
  The new tank will be primarily for expanded fish display (sixline wrasse, sharknose goby, and possibly a purple tang and/or juvenile emperor angelfish),
<... not enough room for either of these last two>
mixed with some other compatible invertebrates. My thought is to move the entire system over to the 90 gal, than add fresh (quarantined) LR in ~10-15 lb batches over time.
<Still not enough room...>   
  I believe I have a "plan" for the new arrangement but wonder if you would kindly comment and/or offer suggestions...
<See WWM re Systems, Compatibility subfaqs files for the organisms listed>   
  Tank will be 90 gallon Oceanic with two overflow boxes (say 500 to 1000 gph each). I'll use a few powerheads for internal flow but mostly rely on the return flow for circulation.   
  Sump will be Ecosystem 3612 - hopefully to (1) provide copepods and other food, (2) serve as an algae filter and (3) provide touted benefits of "miracle mud" such as enhanced color. Question (if you please) - since Caulerpa is illegal in California, can you kindly suggest alternative macroalgae which fits the above objectives?
<Is posted on WWM... see here: http://wetwebmedia.com/refugalgfaqs.htm
and the file linked above in series>
(I have Mr. Fenner's Reef Invertebrates book but I don't have experience growing macroalgae).
<Easy, fun to do>   
  The Ecosystem literature states a protein skimmer is not necessary but I will use one based on other feedback (including your site!). I am thinking about a slightly smaller skimmer (Euro Reef CS 80) due to the presence of the Ecosystem. Would you do this or do you think the CS 100 would be worth using?
<Yes>
  Summers get pretty hot in So. Cal so I am planning to use a chiller (better than running home AC continuously). Can/would you comment on experience with Aqualogic vs. Coralife vs. JBJ Artica?
<Mmm, I would look to querying on BB's re a wider input of actual experience here>
Also, would you recommend piping the chiller "in-line' on the return pump or use a separate loop off the back end of the sump?
<If you have enough flow, pressure, I would tie this chiller in with the existing plumbing>   
  I am debating the pros/cons of a submersible pump versus an external pump (Iwaki). Right now I am leaning to the external pump if there is enough space. Are there benefits to one over the other or does it come down to personal preference?
<Externals are superior in most circumstances... more efficient, less waste-heat... less potential for trouble>   
  For the lighting I am leaning to power compacts, say 3-4  rows so the lighting can be switched on/off to mimic daily cycle of light intensity. Can you suggest what level of intensity would best benefit the above described system?
<Again, posted...>   
  Again, any thoughts/critique would be greatly appreciated.
  Scott in (hot) So Cal
<Bob Fenner, also here. When, where in doubt Scott... keep reading>

Re: tank setup   4/18/06
Thank you Jodie for your info.  Like I said, I'm new to this and could use all the advice I can get.
<Great to hear!  I love it when people WANT to research and get advice.  Good start.>
I will look into the Remora.  Also a couple more questions:  When I set the tank up, I used regular freshwater gravel.  Will that be
sufficient or should I change that out to crushed coral?
<You'll certainly want to change that out.  Crushed coral is fine, Southdown sand is great if you want a DSB, or aragonite (my personal choice).>
I used regular tap water 4 gallons at a time with salt until dissolved. Should I have used distilled water?
<Tap water can cause unwanted algae blooms.  I'd look into getting an RO/DI unit.>
How many pounds of live rock would you suggest?  I was thinking of 1 lb per gallon so in a 55 gallon tank I was going to use 55 lbs of
Fiji premium rock.  
<That's a good start.  It depends on what look you're going for.  If 55 lbs fills it up how you like it, it should be fine.  Unless you're depending on your LR as your filtration source, then you'll want closer to 2 lbs per gallon.>
Could you recommend a reputable online store to purchase the live rock and future fish.
<I'm not sure if I'm supposed to recommend e-tailers on the WWM site. <<Bob?>>  As for purchasing your fish online, I'd recommend trying your LFS first.  That way you can see what you're buying, watch it eat, make sure it's not sick/injured.  If they don't have what you want, they'll likely order it for you.  That is, after all, the business they're in.>
P.S.  Should I put all the rock in the tank at the same time or limit so many lbs per week.
<If you make sure it's well cured, you should have no issues putting it in the tank all at the same time.  If it's not, then the die-off would foul up your water pretty quickly.  I would, of course, recommend curing it and adding to the tank BEFORE you consider adding any fish.  The LR alone may be enough to jump-start your cycle.>
P.P.S. If i am going over board with questions just tell me to shut up!! lol     
<Shut up Chris!  No, don't shut up.  Keep asking questions!  That way you'll get it right the first time.  You'll save yourself, your fishes, and, well ME, a lot of grief. :-)  Cheerio!  Jodie>
      THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ADVISE
                     Chris K.

Re: tank setup   4/21/06
Hi, it's Chris again.
<Hi, it's Jodie again, still adding your capitals and punctuation.>
I took your advice and removed all the freshwater gravel and replaced it with 40 lbs of aragonite crushed coral and 40 lbs of Arag-Alive sand.
<Good to hear.  I'd also recommend seeing if some local reefers would donate a bit of their sand.  I've found that it contains much more diversity than Arag-Alive.>
I also drained all the water cleaned the tank and refilled.  OK now I
think I am ready for the rock.  I keep getting different opinions from LFS.  Could you please advise me which would be better -- cured or uncured.
<A matter of opinion/circumstance.>
I am thinking the uncured, so the tank could cycle while the rock is curing but I am unsure.
<That will work, yes (though you don't want to add uncured rock to a stocked tank).  You have to run a skimmer full-time to avoid fouling up your tank, and keep a careful eye on ammonia/nitrates.  If they get too high, you're basically killing all the good stuff that makes live rock "live".>
And I was going to start out with 50 lbs of Fiji. I not trying to set up a reef tank, just a simple setup with some rock, a few fish, and 1 or 2 anemones.  
<Again, please research anemones very thoroughly.  They require basically perfect water quality, very intense lighting, and a mature tank.  Please-please-please don't impulse buy an anemone.  It will die...unless it's an Aiptasia.>
Thanks again in advance for all your info!!!!
<Glad to help.  Jodie>
                                   Chris K.

Set-up Q's, new hobbyist    4/12/06
Hi there Bob and crew,
<Rick>  
  I am new to saltwater ( few weeks ago, gave up my freshwater discus) and very excited already. I got a 90 gallon tank with overflow box built-in, 36" sump with refugium, AquaC skimmer ev-120 with mag-drive500 , PhosBan reactor, quiet one 4000hh return pump, Artica 1/5 chiller, UV sterilizer, with these equipments ready to rock and roll. (planning to get the Korallin calcium reactor with co2 tank) Please let me know how to and how long to cycle my tank, when is it the appropriate time to add LR+LS, and when to add corals, I have tried to find it on the WWM search engine, but not much luck. can you please give me the link to these question.
      thank you very much.
  Rick
<Are all posted on WWM... along with much more needed related material. My best advice is to use the indices, starting here: http://wetwebmedia.com/marine/index.htm
Enjoy the process, and take good notes. Bob Fenner>

Re: ** new hobbyist
thanks Bob , I got your book couple days ago... currently only chapter 2, but, learning a lot already, thanks
  Rick
<Ahh! Know you will enjoy, gain by the experience. Enjoy the process. Bob Fenner>

Set up, Skimming, and UV  03-21-06
Hi <Hi!>
Again Thanks for your WWW & you guys rock!
So after years with a 55 gallon fish only tank & just bought & set up a 180. <Yay!  Bigger is better.>
The set ups is 2 days old. Seeded with some sand from old tank & older
filter foam. I also bought the Aqua C 180. & 2 1/2 of Aragamite Select.
Questions:  So When should I install the Skimmer? <Most here agree that skimming while cycling is a good idea, so start now.> & did I buy the wrong substrate? ( .5 - 1.0 mm ) <It seems the mindset IS a little bit bigger, the smallest being somewhere between 1.5mm and 2mm.> as I like at least 2". I grabbed & installed what I thought was a bit larger in diameter. Is this or will this be a problem? <I don't think so, but you might have to watch with powerheads and whatnot moving it around too easily later on.>
& When should I turn on the UV? Thanks!  <Is this going to stay a Fish Only tank?  I don't personally believe in using UV at all, however there are others that have used with success.
You may want to read here for more info:  http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marphysf.htm  >
Sincerely, Jonny
<Good luck and enjoy!  Jen S.>

New Set Up Advice - 02/20/2006
I have been reading your site and The Conscientious Marine Aquarist for the past 2 months and found all the help you dispense immensely helpful.
<Bob's glad to offer them and we're happy to help!>
I am looking to set up a fish and invertebrate tank with a few hardy corals. The main setup I have is as follows 140gal tank with overflow box, megaflow 4 sump, Reef Devil ETSS Skimmer and in sump return pump. Since it's better to do it right at the beginning I thought I would get a few basic questions down before actually setting up the tank.
<OK.>
Should I use the sump as is with the bio balls or try and turn it into a refugium?
<This is covered quite extensively on WWM and really depends on the path you decide to follow. I'd go with a refugium though.>
If the answer is to convert it, can the sump be converted easily?
<As nothing is running yet, yes.>
How deep a sand bed should I have? I get conflicting answers from everything I've read.
<Again covered extensively here. Generic answer; 3" or more, 1/2" or less.>
How much LR should I use for such a set up?
<All your preference here also. Most common to use 1-2 lbs. per gallon.>
Thanks for all the help
<Sure thing. - Josh>

New Setup of a 125  - 02/20/06
Hi Crew,
Amazing site and can't say enough good things about it!  I am thinking about converting my 125 freshwater tank, and after reading as much as I could on your site and a few others, feel that I am ready.  On to the questions!  The tank doesn't have an overflow, and is currently set up with an Eheim 2028, and 2 Emperor 400's for filtration.  For the marine tank, I am thinking about using 150-175lbs of live rock, 4 Aquaclear 802 power heads, a protein skimmer (not sure of the brand just yet), and the canister for mechanical/chemical filtration.  I won't have a sump and was wondering if this filtration / water movement would be sufficient for this large of a tank.
<Can be made to work... depending on what livestock...>
  I am fairly certain that I want to get a snowflake eel, and possibly a lion fish, and maybe 1 or 2 other tankmates that are suitable to be housed with a lionfish.  (will research this further after the tank has been going for a month with the live rock)  My main concern is that I have heard a few different opinions from the LFS in the area regarding needing a sump, but feel that the turnover from the powerheads (rated at 400 each - so that would be 1600) and the canister (300 gph) and the additional protein skimmer (not sure yet) would be at least turning the water over 16X an hour.  
<Sumps are useful, not necessary technology>
Also I just wanted to make sure that the above equipment would be sufficient to run this take, and that nothing further down the road would be needed.  
Thank you in advance, and keep up the excellent site!    
<Thank you... Bob Fenner>

Setup Questions For New Aquarium - 02/20/06
Dear WWM crew,
(Good evening Eric)
<<Good morning Andrew>>
Once again, thank you for your reply.
<<Quite welcome>>
But, after doing more research I have some more questions for you.
<<Ok>>
Here goes...  I have completed the fish part of the inhabitants list.  It is as follows;
Maroon Clown  qty. 1
Yellow Tang  qty. 1
Flame Angel  qty. 1
Auriga Butterfly  qty. 1
Blue Green Reef Chromis  qty. 5
<<Ah, very nice...and pretty much "fills you up!">>
But the plumbing is what I've really been working on.  It's fairly
simple and I feel it may be missing something so again (grin) you have free rein.
<<Hee!>>
But, first I'd like to clear up some of my own confusion.
<<Always good to clean...er...clear up after yourself <grin>.>>
In my earlier message you suggested having two 1.5 inch bulkheads and having one plumbed directly with a 1000 gph pump.  Can a 1.5 inch bulkhead handle this much flow?
<<Yes, when plumbed as a closed-loop.>>
You had suggested two 1.5 inch bulkheads for 1000 gph (total) so I was confused.
<<Ah, I see...I shall try to explain without being to verbose.  With the closed-loop you are "pushing/pulling" the water through the pipe with the pump.  This allows you to "maximize" the volume/capacity of the pipe.  With an overflow system you are reliant upon the water "falling" through the pipe assisted only by gravity and the weight of the water (volume) behind it.  Usually, a gravity overflow will never get close to handling (practically speaking) the volume of water the pipe diameter is rated for under "powered" conditions and attempting to do so usually results in excess noise and other problems from air entrainment.  Thus, I recommend folks size their pipe/bulkheads for overflow system to handle "double" (or more!) the expected capacity.>>
It doesn't make that much difference in my plan though.  I can either get a smaller pump or a larger bulkhead.
<<I see>>
Otherwise, I was thinking this:
90 gallon aquarium drilled with two 1.5 inch bulkheads.  As mentioned above, have one bulkhead plumbed directly to a 700-1000 gph pump (would greatly appreciate any pump suggestions)
<<For submersible pumps...Eheim or Mag-Drive would be my choice, for external...Iwaki, Gorman-Rupp, or the afore mentioned Eheim.>>
that then pumps the water back into the tank via return manifold.  The second bulkhead would go down into a "Y".  One side would empty into the sump and the second would be capped off for expansion. Second sump, refugium, etc.)  The sump would be a simple 25 gallon tub to hold the skimmer, heaters, probes. (Could also hold more live rock or other items)
<<Indeed...such as chemical media (Poly-Filter, carbon).>>
This tub would then be plumbed into a 300-500 gph pump (Again, any suggestions on pump welcome) that pumps the water into the above mentioned return manifold.
<<Mmm, I would keep this separate from the closed-loop manifold.  Do have a read here re, the indices in blue will help too:  http://www.wetwebmedia.com/pbh2oret.htm >>
This could also be a prime spot to put a fluidized bed filter as you suggested.  That's my (proposed) plumbing set-up.
<<Sounds pretty good, do look in to separating the two returns.>>
Next, I have more filtration questions.  I researched the following
skimmers and had the following questions.  Please suggest one based on it's compatibility with my system and value. AquaC EV 120   (Worth the price?)
<<Yes>>
AquaC Urchin Pro   (Too small?)
<<Marginal>>
I have heard great things about these skimmers from several sites/vendors.  Are they as efficient as they say they are?
<<I believe them to be, yes.>>
EuroReef CS080   (Too small?)
<<Again, marginal.>>
EuroReef CS100   (Is it worth it?)
<<Yes, a better choice.>>
I know the truth to the saying "You get what you pay for" (I've owned a SeaClone)  but are these skimmers that much better than the others?
<<I know what you mean...I have a ER CS12-3...I have never regretted the decision to buy this skimmer for a moment.  EuroReef skimmers are my current fav.>>
ASM G-series  I read several reviews about these skimmers and found that the owners were generally pleased with them as long as you got the model recommended for twice the size of your system.
<<Agreed...folks I know with these skimmers have expressed pleased results.>>
My other filtration question is about the fluidized bed filter.  The only model I've seen is the Pentair Aquatics FB 300, FB 600.  Are these considered good?  If not could you suggest a different model?
<<These should perform fine.  The 'QuickSand' filters sold by Aquatic Eco-Systems also look promising.>>
Finally, would a refugium be of any value to this system?
<<Oh yes!  (nitrate reduction/export, breeding ground for/introduction of beneficial critters, etc.)>>
If so, which type of organisms would I stock it with?
<<Please do a search on our site re 'refugium' for more info/selections, but my preference is a reverse-daylight vegetable refugium with DSB.>>
I know I've thrown many questions at you and greatly appreciate your answers.  (My future fish thank you for your knowledgeable reply.)
<<Is my pleasure to assist.  Thank you for writing so well/expressing clearly.>>
WWM in general is the greatest source of aquatic information on the net.  I catch myself spending hours reading articles that have nothing to do with my predicament.
<<Ah, but all will help/be of use, hopefully to prevent you from experiencing the same "predicament"...knowledge is power my friend, do keep reading.>>
Thank you for your time,
Andrew
<<Regards, EricR>>

Mudskippers ... tidepool system planning  2/14/06
Hi crew,
Great site.
Bit of a weird question, Just found my LFS selling mudskippers and have a vision of a tank set up but unsure how to get it and wondered if you could help.
<Will try>
I would like to have a tidal tank, I have a 4 foot Tank which I would like to divide in two halves, one
Side with skipper/skippers in and the other with Fiddler crabs in, I would like to set it up so I could
have high tide in one side and low tide in the other side then every 4 hours or so the tide changes
So the high tide water flows into the low tide side Increasing the water level to high tide,
Is this possible?
<Yes>
If so what would I need?
<A mechanism... a pump, some means of "turning" the water hither and yon>
How would I set it up?
<A few possibilities... I'd go semi-high-tech., and look for float switches, a controller (these are commercially available) to pump the water slowly from one side, then over to the other... Look to Octopus, Neptune... as controller brands...>
And could it be done on a budget?
<If you're handy...>
If I can’t set my vision up I will not get them but I have longed to have skippers for a long time, please help
Many thanks
Stu
<Do please keep good notes, take some pix and write up your experiences to share... I will help you sell to the print/pulp and e-zine markets. Bob Fenner>

New SW System   2/6/06
Hello from Canada,
<Howdy from Southern Cal.>
I have been perusing your site for about a month now and have gotten a lot of excellent information. I am deciding on what would be the best start for me. I have nothing so far as a system yet but will be buying in the next couple of months. I am not overly impressed by my local fish store and am wondering about purchasing items over the net.
<I see>
Any recommendations on the best places to buy (please keep in mind I am in Canada and shipping may be high). I am looking for a 40 to 60 gal. tank to start and am sure I will upgrade in the future after getting some experience. I will buy the tank locally as there are some good choices but I am still having problems with the equipment. Do you feel it is worthwhile to purchase a "complete" system as it is sold in the store or putting something together myself?
<Mmm... IF you know exactly what you are looking for... and this is otherwise not available locally for about the same net landed cost/s... It MAYBE worthwhile to purchase some, most distally>
I need to have another look but I didn't see any live sand in the store. I have family on the Atlantic coast and could possibly get them to ship me some sand. Would this be a problem considering how different the environments are?
<Mmm, no... the folks who ship LR, LS et al. live product are proficient at determining weather, packing for same>
Any suggestions or information you are able to provide on any of these topics would be greatly appreciated! I will continue reviewing the site for other information and thank you for making such an amazing site available!
Jon Goulden
<Glad to see you applying yourself ahead of monetary investment... Keep good notes, collect opinions, facts and you'll do fine. Feel free to check in with us re specifics as your plan comes together. Bob Fenner>

New 125 Gallon Setup - 02/05/06
Dear WWM Crew,
<<Hello Andrew>>
I am seeking some help with a setup.  Please do not hold back, if you have differing views or ideas about something please share.
<<Usually do <grin>.>>
I am on the verge of purchasing a 125 gallon All-Glass aquarium.  (Very excited about this!)
<<I'll bet!>>
It is intended to be a marine fish only system with live rock.
<<Cool!>>
I am getting it from a local dealer and have obtained the stats.  The dimensions are 72x18x22 (inches).  I have the option of buying it pre-drilled or having a glass company drill it.  I have concerns about both options.
<<Ok>>
If I have it pre-drilled I am afraid it may not have large enough bulkheads.  Pre-drilled it comes with two 1" holes for output into the sump and two 3/4" holes for returns.
<<"Holes" or "bulkheads"?...either way too small.>>
I was thinking about using both holes as output and then returning it over the back with a manifold system.
<<A possibility>>
(I want about a 1300 GPH turnover rate in the aquarium.)  I can either do that or have the back panel drilled by a glass shop.  My only concern with this is that they cannot guarantee that the aquarium will come out in one piece.  Which option (if either) would you recommend?
<<Can you not request the manufacturer to pre-drill for larger bulkheads (1 1/2" - 2")?  Or maybe increase the number of throughputs?  If not, I would be inclined to have the tank drilled (or drill it myself) after the fact.>>
My other question is about the support.  I can either purchase a stand or build one.  I have built stands for aquariums before but never for one this large.  Is it even safe to attempt?
<<Sure it is (I built the stand for my 375g tank)...principles are the same, you just need to use materials beefy enough to hold the weight.  A Google search would likely turn up some useful info.>>
I really don't want to buy this size aquarium only to come home to a broken stand and shattered aquarium.
<<This is understandable.  If you doubt your abilities, a manufactured stand may be best.>>
I have found Do-It-Yourself plans but am weary.
<<???>>
I would just like to know if it is a safe practice or not.
<<Like anything else...is safe when done properly.>>
My last question is about the filtration.  I obviously want to incorporate a sump into the setup and wanted to know more about the right kind of filtration.  Being a FOWLR setup I was thinking of building a sump that had an abundant amount of mechanical filtration.
<<Mmm...only if you plan to service regularly (weekly).>>
I was thinking several layers of mesh.  Would this be the proper type of setup to include the bio-balls or something similar?
<<I would forego both of these and employ one or two fluidized-bed filters for additional bio-filtration and a canister filter for chemical/carbon filtration.  As for removing solids, try putting filter socks on the outlets from the tank (also cleaned/swapped out weekly...or more often as needed.>>
The last item is the protein skimmer.  What type/model would you recommend for this size setup?
<<AquaC, Euro-Reef, ASM...follow the manufacturer's recommendation on sizing.>>
Thank you for your time,
Andrew
<<Regards, EricR>>
P.S.  I have read Mr. Fenner's book (The Conscientious Marine Aquarist )  and found his section on the capture of wild fishes (both legal and illegal) very interesting.  You don't see a lot about it and I learned much from the section.  Please pass on my compliments to Mr. Fenner, I found the book to be quite good and more importantly, informing.
<<I very much agree...EricR>> <Thank you for your comments. RMF>