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Nano-Cube HQI Aquarium Kit 5/7/08
Hello WWM Crew, hope you are all well and thank you for all that you
do!!
<Doing well here, WWM is a pleasure to be part of and help out.>
I have to downsize (sad I know) my 100 gal to a 30 gal reef tank. Breaks
my heart it does.
<I bet!>
Although I did look I couldn’t find anything on direct experience with
this prepackaged system. Have any of you gotten any feedback on if this
thing and if it’s various parts work for more than a week?
<There are many systems similar to this out and about on the market now
(many originate from the same manufacturer under different labels), all
seem to function just fine.>
If so, it would fit my space needs perfectly. Here’s the setup;
150 watt 14000°K HQI metal halide lighting
(4) Nite-Vu LED lighting with separate power cord
(2) UL-Listed Accela Powerheads (266 gph each for a 532 gph total)
(2) Directional flow nozzles
(1) Ocean Pulse Duo - Alternating wavemaker
(4) Integrated cooling fans (3,000 RPM's)
Counter current protein skimmer with air pump
3-stage filtration with removable media basket
Center overflow system
Designated area for a heater
Flame retardant ABS canopy housing
Thermal protector for canopy (Auto Shut Off protection)
I thought I would also add a small chiller since I’m concerned about
temp variations in this small a volume.
<A good idea, the main problem with these systems is temperature
fluctuations with the MH light.>
Thanks again for you time. If you’ve already done a review of this
system I’m sorry to ask again, please just post the link.
<We do not generally review products per se, just give opinions when
asked. My only other word of advice regarding this system is the
skimmer. The little limewood driven skimmers do work quite well, just be
aware the limewood will require periodic replacement to keep the skimmer
working well. If this is a concern for you there are many aftermarket
skimmers made just for these systems nowadays. The Tunze Nano DOC being
my personal favorite.>
Take care,
Joe
<Joe, do realize that you can have an amazing tank even with the smaller
volume. Livestock choices, stability and maintenance routines just
become all that much more important with the smaller tank. Cheers, Scott
V.>
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Re: Nano-Cube HQI Aquarium Kit 5/7/08
Hello WWM Crew, hope you are all well and thank you for all that you
do!!
<Doing well here, WWM is a pleasure to be part of and help out.>
I have to downsize (sad I know) my 100 gal to a 30 gal reef tank. Breaks
my heart it does.
<I bet!>
Although I did look I couldn’t find anything on direct experience with
this prepackaged system. Have any of you gotten any feedback on if this
thing and if it’s various parts work for more than a week?
<There are many systems similar to this out and about on the market now
(many originate from the same manufacturer under different labels), all
seem to function just fine.>
If so, it would fit my space needs perfectly. Here’s the setup;
150 watt 14000°K HQI metal halide lighting
(4) Nite-Vu LED lighting with separate power cord
(2) UL-Listed Accela Powerheads (266 gph each for a 532 gph total)
(2) Directional flow nozzles
(1) Ocean Pulse Duo - Alternating wavemaker
(4) Integrated cooling fans (3,000 RPM's)
Counter current protein skimmer with air pump
3-stage filtration with removable media basket
Center overflow system
Designated area for a heater
Flame retardant ABS canopy housing
Thermal protector for canopy (Auto Shut Off protection)
I thought I would also add a small chiller since I’m concerned about
temp variations in this small a volume.
<A good idea, the main problem with these systems is temperature
fluctuations with the MH light.>
Thanks again for you time. If you’ve already done a review of this
system I’m sorry to ask again, please just post the link.
<We do not generally review products per se, just give opinions when
asked. My only other word of advice regarding this system is the
skimmer. The little limewood driven skimmers do work quite well, just be
aware the limewood will require periodic replacement to keep the skimmer
working well. If this is a concern for you there are many aftermarket
skimmers made just for these systems nowadays. The Tunze Nano DOC being
my personal favorite.>
Take care,
Joe
<Joe, do realize that you can have an amazing tank even with the smaller
volume. Livestock choices, stability and maintenance routines just
become all that much more important with the smaller tank. Cheers, Scott
V.> |
Getting Back In To The Hobby...A Lot Has
Seemed To Change (Indeed!) – 04/21/08
HI gents,
<<Some very sharp ladies here as well…and hello!>>
Michael here, and I am setting up a brand new tank.
<<Neat>>
The tank is ordered, dimensions 60x18x30 flat back hex.
<<Ah…so about 125-gallons or so (taking in to account the “Hex” design)>>
I am going to be DIY-ing the stand and a three chambered sump rough dimensions
48x24x18 and probably will be half filled when running.
<Okay>>
The first chamber will be getting the water supply from the main tank and will
house the skimmer (suggestions on type/brand/model).
<<Euro-Reef is my current fave…an RS-80 or maybe RS-100 would do fine here>>
The second chamber will house a deep sand bed and some live rock and possibly
some algae (suggestion of type)
<<Chaetomorpha gets my vote for its “user-friendliness”>>
and will be lit during the main tank dark times. And finally the third chamber
will have the heaters, calcium reactor (suggestion needed),
<<I have/use one from Precision Marine…the CR-422 would serve your system, but
do also take a look at the offerings from Knop…and the new line of Octopus
reactors with “screw-tops” looks interesting as well>>
and return pump. Lighting will come from a Current metal halide/CF fixture about
600watts) hanging from the ceiling. My goal is to have the tank turning over as
much as the built in overflows can handle (not sure how much this will be, at
least 12x I am guessing).
<<For 1” drains figure about 300gph per…700gph or so for 1.5” drains>>
The tank itself will have between 90 and 125 lbs of LR
<<Take care not to overload with rock…leave plenty of space for fish to swim,
corals to grow, water to move about… And rather than the typical (and boring?)
“rock wall”…consider a little researching to replicate a particular “niche” from
the reef, and stocking with animals found re>>
and 120 LBS of LS and have several types of soft and hard corals and maybe 5-10
damsels
<<Choose species carefully here as most Damsels will not get along in these
numbers for the long term, in this size system>>
and a tang or two and a clown fish or two.
<<But hopefully no Anemone mixed in with your sessile inverts>>
I am hoping this stock of fish will not be too much and that my setup will be
sufficient.
<<The stocking density looks fine…though you may want to consider a more
“cooperative” group of small fishes other than the damsels>>
Please help with suggestion on a high to medium skimmer and a descent calcium
reactor.
<<Have done so>>
Going to send in pictures of the setup process and at various stages and the
finally setup once done.
<<Sounds good…look forward to seeing it>>
Michael Wade
York, SC
<<Eric Russell…Columbia, SC>>
Setting Up a 113g Reef Cube –
04/09/08
Hi all,
<<Hello Michael>>
Maybe I should divide this into a couple different emails since it's questions
involving 2 different future set ups. If that's the case, feel free to edit and
split however you see fit.
<<Mmm, well…it’s all here as “one” now, so let’s see how it goes>>
I value your website and your advice very much and would like to thank you in
advance!!!
<<Quite welcome>>
Okay, here's the deal, I currently have 2 mixed reef tanks, a 46 and a 75. My 46
has 2X96 watt PC lighting and my 75 has a 6 bulb 48" Tek 5 fixture that I love!!
<<Metal Halide is my current fave…but admit the T5 lighting is quite nice>>
I'm in the process of setting up a 113 gallon cube tank. I purchased a used tank
that measures 36" long, 25" front to back and 29" high. I plan for this tank to
be predominately SPS but will also have some LPS and Clams.
<<I see>>
My first question is about lighting. I realize that with a depth of 29" I'll
most likely need to go with MH lighting.
<<Will provide the most “bang for the buck” in the space allowed, yes>>
I am absolutely have to go with 400 watts or if 250 watts will be enough.
<<250w lamps will serve quite well…I suggest two>>
I do want to be able to keep Acros but am more than willing to keep the higher
light demanding corals higher in the tank.
<<Is always a good plan regardless of the wattage used>>
I plan to keep Acros in the upper portion of the tank, lower light demanding
SPS, such as Montipora in the middle level and LPS towards the bottom.
< I think it is a mistake to believe Montipora species won’t appreciate the same
light levels as we assume Acropora species “require.” Many Montipora species,
especially branching varieties, will grow faster and color-up better under
intense lighting, in my experience. But even so, the 250w halides will provide
sufficient light re for the Montipora at “middle level”… and for many Acropora
species as well>>
I'll use the same philosophy with my clams. Will 250 watts be enough?
<<Yes>>
I know absolutely nothing at all about MH lighting and have soooo much to learn.
I see different types of ballasts, magnetic, electronic, etc. I see mogul and DE
bulbs, I see pulse start....non pulse start...German bulbs.....I'm sooo
confused...lol. I don't know what any of this means at all!!
<<Can be daunting…but do start reading here and among the links in blue at the
tops of the pages. Formulate some specific questions and give me a holler if you
wish>>
I'm assuming, because of the dimensions of this tank that I'll be able to hang a
single pendant above the tank.
<<You could, though this will limit the numbers/species you can keep as light
toward the ends of the tank will be quite dim>>
That brings up the question of how to supplement actinic lighting with either PC
or T5s.
<<Not necessary…but if you wish, either will do fine>>
I'm also considering building a canopy and installing a MH retro pendant and
supplemental actinics.
<<A fine idea>>
Any and all suggestions or advice would be wonderful.
<<Do some reading, and then come back with more specific questions if
necessary>>
I am still in the planning stages of this tank and plan to drill it for a
closed-loop system as well as for an overflow and return for a sump/refugium
I'll be building.
<<Excellent>>
Any advice on placement, number and size of holes would be great!!
<<Much to be stated… Read here (http://www.wetwebmedia.com/plumbingmarart.htm)
and here (http://www.wetwebmedia.com/pbretfaq2.htm) and come back with specific
questions about what you want to do>>
Drilling brings up another question. I've heard and read that you can determine
if your tank is all tempered by looking at the glass through polarized
sunglasses. Any advice on this?
<<Don’t think I’ve heard/know about this. Most all production tanks of size and
of recent manufacture will have at the least a tempered bottom panel. I would
think your tank would probably be OK to drill through a side panel…but I suggest
you contact the manufacturer to be sure>>
From what I can tell, there are no markings at all on any of the glass panes.
<<New tanks would have tempered panels marked (usually a sticker), but since
your tank is used……>>
I sure don't want to shatter my tank...lol.
<<Agreed…can give one quite a start>>
Also, is there any way to determine if this tank has ever had copper based
medicine used in it?
<<Mmm…try adding some water…let it stand a while…test the water>>
If so, does that make it impossible to use it as a reef tank?
<<Maybe not… If you detect copper, you may be able to remove it (depending on
how much trouble you wish to go to) with a proprietary copper remover (e.g. –
Seachem’s Cupramine)>>
Now on to my next project...The above mentioned cube will replace my 46 gallon
bowfront and the 46 gallon will be turned into a Seahorse tank. I'm still in the
beginning stages of learning about Seahorses as well. I understand there a HUGE
difference between reef and seahorse tanks when it comes to flow, temperature
and such.
<Indeed>>
I'm thinking that I'll utilize the current PC lighting that I have on the 46.
I'll cut way back on flow by removing the modified MJ1200s and replacing them
with...I don't know. I've heard that it's not a good idea to have any power
heads in a seahorse tank.
<<As weak swimmers, such devices can be harmful if employed without some thought
to diffusing flow/protecting intakes, yes>>
This tank has a HOB CPR Aquafuge, the large size. It also has an AquaC Remora
HOB Skimmer. Will these 2 units provide enough flow?
<<I would think so>>
They both have the standard pumps. With these in place, I don't have room to add
a HOB box type power filter. I've used the HOB power filters such as AC100s and
turned them into mini fuges by removing the filter media and replacing with
Chaeto. This would supplement flow but there's just no room. I could use a
canister filter to supplement flow if needed. Any and all suggestions for this
would be great too!!
<<I very much suggest you visit the Seahorse forums for better detailed info
than I can provide (http://www.seahorse.com/option,com_joomlaboard/Itemid,218/func,showcat/catid,2/)>>
Last question....for now....I would really like this tank to house 2 species of
seahorses.
<<Not usually recommended>>
I understand that different species have different temperature requirements and
such. If I were to get 2 species from the same region, would I be okay? If I'm
unable to house 2 different species and still provide proper conditions for
both, I won't. What species would you recommend for someone who does have
experience with reef tanks but none with seahorses? I'd also like to house 2 of
whatever species I have.
<<Ocean Rider offers excellent “tank raised” specimens that are good choices for
novice “horse keepers.” I suggest you contact them (http://www.seahorse.com/contact/Carol_Ann_Cozzi-Schmarr/)
and let Carol advise you on your selection>>
Again, thank you so much for any information, suggestions or advice you're able
to provide. You guys are awesome!!
Sincerely,
Michael
<<Happy to assist, Michael. Be chatting, EricR>>
Moving up to a 110 gallon
system... reading re stkg., canister filters/reef 3/15/08
Hello Crew,
<Cinnamon, let me in!>
I have been a fan of your site since I found it. Great advice.
<Thanks>
Here in my question. I currently have a 60 gallon reef system. I am running a
Marineland Emperor Bio-Wheel 400 Power Filter, a Aqua C Remora Protein Skimmer
with Maxijet 1200 Pump and a Current Orbit(2) 65w Dual Daylight and (2) 65w Dual
Actinic lighting system. Two MaxiJet 1200 powerheads and One 200 watt heater. I
also have about 60 to 80 lbs of live rock and a 2 to 3 inch sand bed.
The current residents of the 60 gallon, (listed below) will be relocating to the
110 gallon mentioned below. Except for the tomato clowns and the Yellow Belly
Blue Damsel. They will be going back to the LFS.
1 yellow tang 4in
2 tomato clowns
1 Lyretail Anthias 3"
1 Yellow Belly Blue Damsel
1 Coral Beauty Angelfish 4"
2 Scarlet Cleaner Shrimp
1 Fire Shrimp
2 Serpent Starfish
1 Hawaiian Feather Duster
15 assorted snails
1 Long tentacle anemone and 1 short tentacle
Several different types of mushrooms, polyps and Zoanthids.
I purchased the 110 gallon tank, (48 x 30 x 18) with no overflow, to be my new
reef system. My plan is to run a Eheim 2028 Professionel II Canister Filter,
<Mmm, good product... I use them on my FW tanks... but am not such a fan for
marine... part. reef set-ups. Please see WWM re:
http://wetwebmedia.com/marcanfiltuse.htm>
two Hydor Koralia 3 - 850GPH powerheads, Aqua C Remora Pro Protein Skimmer with
Mag 3 Pump, two Aquarium Systems Visi-Therm 200 Watt Heater and the Current
Orbit(2) 65w Dual Daylight and (2) 65w Dual Actinic lighting system which is on
my current system. I know my current lighting system will need to be upgraded at
some point, but do you think I will be able to go with this one for now?
<If you can arrange your stinging-celled life to be about the same depth of
water as currently>
I will also have about 75 to 100 lbs of live rock and a 2 to 3 inch sand bed.
Any recommendations would be helpful?
<Deeper, finer substrate is better... also posted: http://wetwebmedia.com/marsubstr.htm
and the linked files above.>
I would also like to add the following resident to the new system, if you
approve? I do not want to overload my system.
2 Maroon Clownfish
1 Blonde Naso Tang. I know he will need to be in a larger system in a couple of
years.
<Mmm, no... immediately. I would not keep a Naso species in anything less than
six feet long/wide... See... WWM... re...>
Already planning on a 180 system.
1 Full size angel?
<... Not a good idea>
Hardy and reef safe any suggestions?
<Posted...>
I know there is no guarantee on it being reef safe.
1 Blue Jaw Trigger or Niger Trigger?
A group of schooling fish. Any suggestions?
<Reading. Bob Fenner>
Re: Setting Up 110 Gallon
Reef System 03/21/2008
Hello Again Crew,
<<G'Morning, Andrew today>>
This is Ron. A.K.A. the Mystery Man...
Thanks for the advice. I have attached my first inquiry email, I sent to you. I
want to make sure I have everything right before I make my purchase of equipment
and livestock. I apologize in advance, if I am being repetitive. O. K. here we
go.
<<No need to apologise>>
Equipment I am going with for this 110 gallon future reef:
RENA Filstar XP 3 Canister Filter. I am not going to use the Emperor 400. If
that is alright?
<<I see down below your going for 120lbs of live rock in a 110 gal tank. With
this amount of live rock, a filter is not need as the rock will provide your
filtration. However, if adding a filter is your choice, then the XP3 is a good
one to choose>>
Aqua C Pro with Mag pump protein skimmer.
<<Great skimmer>>
120 lbs or more of live rock.
<<Good>>
CaribSea Aragamax Sugar Sized Sand 2 in. depth.
<<Good>>
2 Hydro Koralia 3 (850 GPH) This gives me 1700 GPH. I was thinking 1 Hydro
Koralia 3 (850 GPH) and 1 Hydro Koralia 2 (600 GPH)? I do want to blow the DSB
around?
<<As this is to be a reef, you'll need around about 2600GPH water circulation,
so, combinations of the Hydors will achieve this>>
2 Aquarium Systems Visi-Therm 200 Watt Heaters.
<<Good>
Lighting supplied with a Current Orbit (2) 65w Dual Daylight and (2) 65w Dual
Actinic lighting system.
<<Good>>
I will move the soft coral to the upper part of the tank and the anemones are
coming out (LFS gift). I will upgrade the lighting within the next few months.
<<in my opinion this lighting is not good enough for anemone's. I high powered
T5 or Metal Halide should be used for them>>
That's it as far as equipment. I hope? Any more suggestions will be welcomed.
<<All seem fine to me>>
As far as livestock, for this future reef tank.
No more tangs. As you advised me, in your previous reply.
Is there any kind of show fish I can have? Full size Angel, Butterfly, etc.?
What about some kind of schooling fish? What kind would you suggest and how
many?
<<There is a lot of fish you can have in there, but of course, compatibility
with the corals is the harder part. It is unfortunate that most of the real
"show" fish are not completely compatible with corals. Angels and butterflies
being two of them>>
Thanks Again.
We are out here and we are listening.....
<<Thanks for the questions, hope this helps. A Nixon>>
"New" 55 Gallon Reef Aquarium
03/11/2008
I have inherited a "standard" size (48" long) & had a few questions about
the setup.
Only up one week since moved but from existing tank had ten gallons water &
balance was RO saltwater from LFS.
Everything tested good @ LFS one week later. ammonia, nitrates, nitrites, PH,
salinity
Currently: 50+ Pounds live rock, 2 Clown Fish, 1 Sailfin Tang, 1 Anemone
(unidentified), 1 Mushroom coral (about 3 x 6 inches).
<<Some observations at this point. These fish should not really be in this tank
as i imagine it cannot of cycled within two weeks. The Sailfin tang need a far
larger home than this current tank and the anemone should not be in a new tank>>
Wet Dry Trickle Filter (LFS & prior owner recommended running w- out bio-balls
because of amount of rock,) Excalibur Skimmer in sump, Hang on filter (LFS
recommended not using, said no need, it had charcoal pouch & mechanical media. I
thought the extra flow would be good, they told me it wouldn't be enough to help
so why use.
<<Any additional flow will help>>
Also advised me removing charcoal <<Activated carbon>> from the trickle filter,
which I did & replaced w-Purigen pouch in trickle filter), Fluidized Bed Filter
(wasn't in use & I haven't set up, should I?)
<<No need to use the fluidized filter>>
Lighting, here is where I really need some advice, I don't want to be limited
with what I can add as things progress.
Currently only one 65w Corallife, there were two 40w fluorescents I can't get to
function so I am trying to make the correct lighting choice on a budget.
Looking @ 48" Corallife 4x65W Compact Fluorescent Retrofit
http://www.coralreefsupply.com/index.php?aquarium=detail&detail=1001
which I could supplement w- Nova T5 28 watts per but I read that the lumen
output was equivalent to a standard 40w.
http://www.marineandreef.com/shoppro/power_nova.htm Or
http://coralsplus.3dcartstores.com/48-4X96-Watt-PCCF-Retrofit-Kit_p_1850-2798.html
4x96 Watt PC/CF Retrofit Kit 384 total watts.
I'm hoping you will say the 4x65 would be sufficient but from my research
doesn't seem likely.
<<Out of the lighting you've listed, i would choose
http://coralsplus.3dcartstores.com/48-4X96-Watt-PCCF-Retrofit-Kit_p_1850-2798.html.
If you don't want limitations on what you want to keep, you can search around and
find a Metal halide lighting unit. This would certainly be your best option>>
How about flow ? I couldn't find the GPM on the return pump from my trickle
filter, have removed my hang on filter and have one "powerhead" Not sure if that
is correct term for this item. Looks like it is designed only for water
movement, hangs by 3 suction cups w- a flat diverter that swivels to adjust the
flow. I would think I would need something in the opposite corner as well. I've
seen a photo of something that actually looked like a standard house fan as far
as the blade & cage. Attractive @ least. Don't remember where I saw or the
brand. How many GPM should I be moving in addition to the trickle filter ?
<<Without you providing specific equipment models, i cannot give you what gph
the devices are. With that in mind, flow wise, you want to be aiming for around
1400 gph water circulation.>>
Thank You
<<Hope the above helps. Thanks for the questions. A Nixon>>
Re: "New" 55 Gallon Reef
Aquarium 03/12/2008
Thank you so much ! ! !
<<no problem>>
I wouldn't have put the livestock in myself, but they came w- the purchase. I
bought the aquarium on Craig's List w- the intent of setting up for Discus &
when I went to p/u I realized I was going to need a crash course in marine
systems. I rushed out & bought two books & have spent a tremendous amount of
time on the web. Your site has been the most helpful by far. You are providing
an amazing service to the community.
<<Thank you>>
I found the circulation pumps after I sent you the msg, they are Hydor Koralia
and now I know what size to buy !
http://www.marineandreef.com/shoppro/pumps_koralia.htm
<<Ahhh.. good choice of pump / powerhead there>>
I spoke w- my LFS & they will let me bring them the Sailfin for store credit @
25 cents on the dollar. That sounded very fair & he can have a
better home. 23" yikes, currently he is only about 4"
<<this is good then, it will be better off in a bigger home>>
Thanks for all the help & all you do. Aidan
<<Good luck, hope all turns out well. A Nixon>>
Re: "New" 55 Gallon Reef Aquarium
03/14/2008
Thank you, was hoping maybe you could respond to some of the
questions & comments I sent GARF as well ?
<<Added some comments into the email text below that you sent to GARF.>>
<<Thanks, hope this helps. A Nixon>>
Thanks again !
Re: "New" 55 Gallon Reef Aquarium 03/14/2008
Good morning,
<<Good evening, Andrew today>>
Was hoping I could receive your expert advice once again ?
<<Shall try>>
Here is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Geothermal Aquaculture Research
Lab in Boise this AM. I have also included my prior e-mails to you @ the
bottom for reference if needed. One thing I forgot to ask them is if
they & now you think I am on the right track, is this GARF safe to add
w- the existing livestock or should they or it be quarantined in anyway?
<<i would only acclimatize the hermits / snails>>
I am pretty sure you are familiar w- the product but here is a link to
the site just in case.
http://www.garf.org/reefjanitors.html
<<yes, seen this before>>
Also I do have concerns about heat once the new lights are running, I am
currently right @ 80 (assuming the cheap little thermometer in there is
reasonably accurate) I don't know why it would be so high though,
ambient temperature is 70-75, has open back canopy, about 6 inches off
wall, piping is matched to pump port size. Trickle filter I thought
helped w- heat dispersion.
Current lighting is a Corallife 65w 50/50, I have an additional 4x65
50/50 Corallife retro on the way.
<<Nothing excessive to cause temp rises. Devices inside the tank also
contribute to tank temp>>
Again, thanks in advance for all you do !!
Aidan
From: Stuart, Aidan
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:09 AM
To: 'Leroy@garf.org'
Subject: GARF Grunge
Good Morning,
I inherited a marine aquarium & am in the process of giving myself a
crash course. 55G, has been set up about 2-1/2 weeks w- 10 gallons of
original water & the balance from LFS. Ammonia, Nitrate & Nitrites all
consistently test zero. There is I would estimate about 30-40 pounds of
live rock & about 1-1/2 - 2" of live sand from the original aquarium.
Inhabitants:
Sailfin Tang (my LFS will take him, he is small now but since will
outgrow this tank see no reason to keep him)
2 Clowns
1 Anemone (again LFS will take, want coral & have been advised I
shouldn't have this w- coral)
1 Mushroom Coral
I would like to eventually have a nice fish / coral mixture. Current
Lighting is a 65W Corallife 50/50 but I have ordered an additional
retrofit 4x65W Corallife 50/50 which will give me 3 sets of lights
available to have on different timers. 2 50/50 @ 130w & one 50/50 @ 65w
for a total available of 325.
Have a wet/dry trickle filter w- mat & Purigen only (no bio-balls) that
has a 500GPM flow, also 2 Koralia circulation pumps on order (600 GPM
per) & a skimmer in the sump.
As long as this aquarium was set up prior to my receiving (6 years, but
I don't know how long the rock was in) I would have expected much more
coralline on the rock & overflow wall. The rock I would estimate has
maybe 15% - 20% coverage, but also has green hair algae (doesn't appear
to be increasing or excessive) The overflow wall merely has nickel to
quarter size patches.
<<Coralline will arrive in time given good lighting, calcium Alk and Mag
levels>>
I don't want to get ahead of myself before adding more livestock & coral
before the tank is ready & assume getting more coralline would be the
1st step ?
<<This is no indication of a tanks suitability to house fish or corals,
the water parameters / cycling are what govern this>>
If I am correct in that I was wondering if the GARF Grunge would be the
best start (& in what qty),
<<Info stated on their website " 0NE POUND FOR EACH THREE GALLONS WILL
ACTIVATE TWO INCHES OF ARAGONITE SAND
ADD ONE POUND PER 10 GALLONS TO IMPROVE WILD LIVE SAND! " >>
if so what combination of
lighting from my above options would be best until the addition of
corals, I am assuming the 1x65w @ 10-12 hrs ?
<<8 hours is plenty of lighting>>
If I am on the right track so far what would you recommend for a rough
time estimate before I could add corals & additional fish.
<<Once the cycle has completed and a large water change has been done,
you can start to slowly stock the tank>>
Lastly here is a list of species I thought may be good for a tank of
this size that would peacefully co-exist.
Do these look like good picks & if so what qty of each would you
recommend both for compatibility & bio-load. Would order added matter ?
I do currently have the two Ocellaris, the Sailfin & anemone will be
returned before I make any additions.
Midas Blenny (Ecsenius midas)
Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris)
Bicolor Pseudochromis (Pseudochromis paccagnellae)
Limbaugh Chromis Damsel (Chromis limbaughi) <<I would leave the damsel
out, these can get aggressive>>
Sixline Wrasse (Pseudocheilinus hexataenia) <<Add this fish last>>
Royal Gamma Basslet (Gramma loreto) <<I would choose this or bicolor
Pseudo.. They are very alike and you may get some aggression shown from
the Gramma to the bicolor>>>>
Re: "New" 55 Gallon
Reef Aquarium... GARF/Grunge... using WWM 03/15/2008
Thank you sir, I appreciate the advice, I assume you had no
objections to the GARF then. One forum I looked @ had to shut down a
couple of threads on the subject because they took a nasty turn, very
strong opinions on both sides.
<<Its a very debatable issue i suppose. An aspect you have to consider
is how genuine the product is? Fact is, a lot / most wont have a means
of checking out the product to ensure the specific contents. Would i use
this? No...Given time, life will be generated under its own steam. Just
my opinion of course. Hope this helps. A Nixon>>
<Aidan... take a look on WWM (the search tool...) re GARF, "Grunge"....
this "product" is a hoax... "some old guy with a hammer smashing up dead
LR"... Andrew Nixon is in the UK... likely unfamiliar with... RMF.> |
New setup
stocking question, reef 03/03/2008
Hello Crew!
<<G'Morning, Andrew today>>
Fantastic site and I wish to extend my own personal *thank you* for the
hard work, dedication, and information provided to all of us addicts!
Unfortunately, even after months of ready FAQs, articles, and Internet
searches I still find that I have questions. I would think that what I'm
attempting to do would be common, but perhaps not.
<<We shall see as we go through it>>
For a brief background, I have been setting up my first system, a 75
gallon, for nearly a year now. A few weeks ago I finally got things to
the point that the tank is cycling. This includes a refugium, skimmer,
automatic top of system, MH lighting, as well as several custom built
covers for keeping a few of these species in the tank. Since a picture
is worth a thousand words, I have included links to photos at the end of
this correspondence so that you can see the setup. This system was
designed with two primary species in mind and the intent to stock corals
for a full fledged reef.
<<Sounds like a hood plan and system>>
The first design consideration is Synchiropus splendidus (Mandarin). I
am well aware that these fish ted to have potential feeding issues. This
fish will not be attempted until copepod (most likely sourced via
oceanpods.com) and amphipods (most likely sourced via ipsf.com) have
been stocked in the refugium and allowed to "socialize" for a great deal
of time.
<<Goo deal...Best waiting for at least 9 months or more before
considering attempting a mandarin>>
My next design consideration was for some form of Opistognathus
(Jawfish).
My original plan was for Opistognathus rosenblatti until I read on WWM
that they were a cooler water species. I would like to house more than
one for the interaction, so I am leaning towards a pair of Opistognathus
aurifrons instead. Again these are a special needs fish, so the tank has
been filled with ample substrate of various particle sizes to
accommodate burrows.
<<Superb...Such a great fish to see in an aquarium>>
In fact one end of the tank has around six to seven inches of aragonite
while the other end has four to five inches. Again, links to photos are
provided for reference.
<<Looks very good to me Just ensure that any live rock is touching the
bottom of the tank, and not resting on sand, as once the burrowing
starts, the potential for live rock shifts could be there>>
While on the subject of a deep substrate, I am also having trouble
deciphering the "clean up crew" issue for stirring of the substrate. It
seems to me that species that "stir" devour everything that I wish to
propagate for the benefit of the mandarin, limited DSB, and other
inhabitants. Are micro stars safe or not, what about "sand bed clams",
and snails?
<<A good crew of snail and reef safe hermits will do a good job. Some
brittle stars are ok, read more here
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/brittlestars.htm >>
Oh, I'm also planning on getting some worms to seed both the display and
refugium. If I could get a few recommendations or sources on this
subject I would greatly appreciate it. I will of course need the algae
eaters as well but those seem to be easy to pick out.
<<A cup of sand from an already established reef would be far better in
my opinion>>
Now that we're on the topic of stocking questions, I need a few names to
research as far as fish are concerned. I would like to find something
small that would give me a nice "group" of swimmer(s) for the middle to
upper range of the tank.
<<Chromis fish school well, in groups of 5 or more, give a nice colour
to the tank>>
The issue that I seem to run into are that species that I seem to pick
out all like to burrow in the sand (which I do not believe would make my
future Opistognathus very happy), create a greater demand on the copepod
population (which I know everything will to some extent but...), or are
too aggressive for other inhabitants or each other. I'm thinking along
the lines of 3 - 5 for the group. Any suggestions?
<<As above, chromis are a good schooling fish, a nice group of
Clownfish, some Anthiinae school well also. I would not be overly too
worried about copepod population of the sandbed, they will also colonise
on the rock, the refugium will be the biggest pod growth centre>>
One last note. I do have a maroon clown that will eventually get placed
in the display, but my intention is to have this placed last if at all
possible. She came with the purchase of a used setup and has since been
in a 10 gallon QT tank. Not the most ideal of situations but she seems
happy and certainly healthy!
<<Don't see any problems. Just research the compatibility of future
inhabitants>>
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m127/Umbra_Vipera/AquariumPhotos/75%20Gallon%20Setup/P2270024.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m127/Umbra_Vipera/AquariumPhotos/75%20Gallon%20Setup/P2270026.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m127/Umbra_Vipera/AquariumPhotos/75%20Gallon%20Setup/P2270025.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m127/Umbra_Vipera/AquariumPhotos/75%20Gallon%20Setup/P2210210.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m127/Umbra_Vipera/AquariumPhotos/75%20Gallon%20Setup/P2220214.jpg
<<Nice photos, thanks>>
A couple of the photos have a tape measure in them for reference. That
tape is about 2 inches short due to the fact that the tank sits IN the
stand not ON the stand. Also, if you go to the following link
http://s103.photobucket.com/albums/m127/Umbra_Vipera/AquariumPhotos/75%20Gallon%20Setup/?albumview=grid
you can view all the photos in the album. Some are OK some not...I'm not
a professional photographer either.
<<Enjoyed browsing through you photo library, some nice shots in there>>
Thank you for time. Sincerely, Heath Carter
<<Thanks for the questions, hope this helps. A Nixon>>
Re: New setup
stocking question 03/04/2008
Thank you for your time and reply.
<<Hello, no problem at all>>
I will do further research into chromis options available. I will also
see if I can locate a reputable source for a live sand donation. I
wanted to clarify as well that the base rock was placed in the display
first and then buried under the sand.
<<Sounds good>>
I ensured my belligerent attacks shaking the tank couldn't knock over
the "piles". Now the rock in the refugium is another story, but there
will not be anything in there except the rock and 'pods. """""""(Get it?
Rock'nPods?)"""""""
<<Oh my, don't give up your day job....ha ha ha ha ha ;O) >>
Sorry it's late and I have more research to complete!
Again thank you very much, Heath Carter
<<Take care, and hope all turns out well for you. A Nixon>> |
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Tank Setup Update 2/27/08
Hello Crew and Bob
<Hello Brian, Scott V. with you today.>
I'm writing you today not to ask questions but to give you a update on my new
reef tank ;)
<OK>
Thanks to Scott V and Mike at www.glass-holes.com I have put together the
perfect reef setup. I ordered a 1500g overflow box kit which came with the
diamond bit and all accessories needed for the overflow including a cool
glass-holes.com tee shirt and some hard candies.
Thanks Scott and Mike
<I am happy to hear everything worked out well.>
So here's my tank setup we'll see how perfect it is as of today.
Cycling the aquarium started 2-21-08 so its 5 days old..
55 lbs of live rock from Dr Foster and Smith "Nice stuff by the way"
70 lbs of sand bed. It’s about 5 inches deep.
The sump actually overflows into the refuge...My idea but with Scott V helping
me with this idea .Thanks again Scott, it works perfect.
<Good to hear.>
2 DIY refuge's 1 has 6 inches of sand other has 4 inches of refuge mud I plan on
growing macro after the cycle is completed..
No light over refuge as of yet.
And then 2 Mag drive 12 pumps returning water through Vinyl Tubing 3/4" so total
I'm pumping roughly 1400 gph total I'm thinking?
<I would like to state for other’s sake that I would not typically recommend
this much pump on two 1 ½” bulkheads. Yours is a situation that allowed it with
your particular plumbing combination and head pressure.>
Lighting is the Nova Extreme T-5 Fixtures w/Lunar Lights total watts is 216
I plan on just LPS tank at the moment..
My skimmer is junk
Skimmer I'm ordering from Scott V he just doesn't know it yet ;)
<Heee, I do now!>
Tank specs as of tonight 2-26-08 , 5:00 pm
Water is RO
Water change 10 gal weekly
Sal 1.024
<I would raise this a bit to 1.025-1.026.>
Temp 80
PH 8.2
Amm 0 ppm
Nitrite 0 ppm
Nitrate 5.0 ppm
Alk 3.0
Cal 100
I'm ignoring Alk and Cal readings above only because it’s a new tank!
I added a 2 part calcium/Alk called C-balance tonight rechecking numbers
tomorrow hoping these numbers will balance (Alk 2.5 Cal 420).
<Yes, do supplement to get these numbers up.>
I'm guessing these numbers are good for the tank being 5 days old
That's about all I can think of tonight I hope I didn't leave anything out.
With all this finally done I owe many people like WWM Crew and Bob Fenner for
this Web site as I am an everyday reader a BIG THANK YOU for everything you
guys/gals do! <<This is what makes all the time, daily... worthwhile.
RMF>>
>:((((-<
Brian Coble, Wisconsin
<You are welcome Brian, I am glad we could help. Thank you for all the kind
words and the update on your system. Scott V., in sunny California.>
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New setup.... Reef
02/26/2008
I just bought a 90 gallon aquarium with a Red Sea Berlin Classic rated for
250 gallons. I am reading many different opinions on wet dry or just skimmer. My
question is if I do not use a wet dry how do I set up the sump, and skimmer, and
what do I use (empty tank, or custom sump)?
<<I personally do not recommend a wet-dry filter arrangement in a marine system.
Setting up the sump is relatively straight forward. The sump is split into 3
areas...1) Inlet section where the water arrives from the main display tank, you
can house the skimmer in this section...2) Central section, the refugium. In
here you will have a DSB, live rock rubble and some macro algae for nutrient
export......3) Return section which will house the return pump...A good place to
start with learning sumps can be found here..
http://www.melevsreef.com/allmysumps.html>>
I want to make it a reef tank, and also want know how much rock is recommended.
Should I use live sand or leave the bottom empty?
<<Rock recommendations are to aim for about 1 - 1.5lbs of live rock per gallon
of tank water. Live sand is a debatable issue. I don't feel its necessary as
life will eventually spread from the live rock in to the sandbed. For sand, I
mainly recommend aragonite sugar grain reef sand, Caribsea provide this
product>>
Thanks for your help. John
<<Thank you for the questions John, hope this helps. A Nixon>>
Re: new setup, reef
02/26/2008
Thanks for your help,
<<Hello again John, no problem at all>>
I have two more questions.
<<Great, I love questions...>>
Do I have to have any substrate? I have seen tanks with no sand on the
bottom at all, is this acceptable?
<<No, you don't have to have a substrate in the tank, this a personal
preference area here, bare bottom is fine>>
Do I need any type of mechanical filtration?
<<Mechanical filtration all depends on the amount of live rock your
planning on putting in the system. If you go for 1 - 1.5lbs of live rock
per gallon, then, that would be all the filtration you actually need. If
you don't intend on having this much, then an external filter of some
type will be needed to bolster mech filtration levels>>
Thanks John
<<Hope that helps John...A Nixon>> |
No Questions, Just Thanks
2/19/08
Hi Crew
<Hi Garry>
Having been away from the hobby for over ten years (major family illness meant
no time) I am now approaching that time when the reef bug has caught hold and
gone from being latent to rampant again.
<Ah, the bug has bit.>
Much has changed, although I seem to have done much of what is current anyway,
refugia, big skimmers, live rock filtration methods, etc etc (more by accident
than design I might add), and finding your site has allowed the dream and
adventure to begin on a much more solid foundation than before. I know my
stocking rates have always been light and my filtration heavy but it always
worked for me and I only ever seemed to lose a fish shrimp or whatever through
old age or accident. It is good to know that what I did in the past is advised
as being the way to go today.
<Not much has changed but technology.>
So this is just a big thank you to everyone from Bob to Steve to anyone who
replies to the thousands of questions people come up with. Your site has
replaced a lot of faith I have lost with the industry (hobby) what with shops
who don't have a clue (keeping a few small wrasse with an Anglerfish is just one
example), and staff about as knowledgeable (sorry if that's spelt wrong) as a
garbage man in a hospital.
<Thank you for your kind words. James (Salty Dog)>
Regards
Garry Holter (in the UK)
Oh I'm an ecologist by training and understand community structure very well (it
formed my D.Phil research for 4 years) and boy does that help in structuring a
reef aquarium. <<Would very much encourage your writing... re the many useful
tie-ins here. Bob Fenner>>
<Mmmm>
75 gallon system, reef set-up
Qs 2/2/08
Hey guys,
<Mr. Christian>
It's been a while since I have last written to you guys, and since then I have
been forced to tear down the tank, and attempt to start it up once again, thus
of course leading to many more questions! It is a standard 75 gallon tank with a
built in overflow which leads down to a SeaLife Systems wet/dry 125 in which I
have replace the bio balls with live rock rubble.... The next section of the
wet/dry is where the useless SeaLife Systems protein skimmer and rio return pump
sit, both of which no longer work and are the main reasons for the collapse of
the beautiful tank I used to have. My plan for this tank is to go full blown
reef with many different inverts and just a couple small reef safe fish. So,
here is the equipment I am looking into buying for my new setup: (I haven't
bought them yet so please tell me if you have any suggestions)
Protein Skimmer - Euro Reef RS100
<Good unit>
Lighting - Outer Orbit 48" 2x 150w 10K Metal halides with 2x 130 w actinic PC's
Live Rock - 90 lbs of liveaquaria.com's select Lalo LR
Sandbed - Want a 4" deep sandbed to help with NNR, is it possible to use sand
bought from Home Depot for this?
<Mmm, possibly... they used to carry a calcareous play sand... but not all is of
such a nature... Do you know of the "acid test"? See here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/marsubstr.htm
and the linked files above>
Perhaps supplement with other Live Sand?
<Good idea>
Also do you know approximately how many pounds I would need to create a 4" deep
bed?
<Mmm... about thirty pounds per square foot of bottom>
Pumps/Circulation - Return pump will be a Rio 20HF, and the in tank powerheads
will be a Tunze Turbelle Stream 6060 (too much flow do you think?)
<Not too much>
and also on the side of the return, a Hydor Koralia NANO.
Anyways, these are just my plans so far, please give me your suggestions,
opinions. etc. Can't wait to hear back from you guys and thanks a bunch.
-Christian
<Thus far, so good... Bob Fenner>
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Moving to a Bigger Tank, reef...
stkg., set-up 2-1-08
Hi Bob,
<Do I look that old? ;) Mike here today, Bob is having a beer (if he's
lucky...)>
Fantastic site with a TON of great information.
<Yes it is, thanks>
I Currently have a 56 gal
with LR/LS, NO coral, a few inverts (snails, arrow crab, choc chip star, and
emerald crab) and of course fish. We just bought some more fish for the aquarium
last week knowing we will be buying a 125 gal this coming week. The fish we have
are 1 Banggai cardinal, 1 PJ cardinal, 1 maroon/gold clown, 1 blue hippo tang,
and the new additions are 1 latticed butterfly, 1 coral beauty angel, 1 Twinspot
goby, and 1 red knobbed starfish.
<Banggai's are schooling fish, might want to get a few more of these guys>
A lot for a 56 gal tank,
<Too small for the tang, that's for sure>
I really should have waited to get the new guys. Everyone is doing fine, but I
want to keep the ball rolling on getting them into their bigger home.
<Good idea>
My question involves setting up/cycling the new 125g tank. First of all, let me
mention that we are not currently happy with our current substrate (Florida
crushed coral) from a purely aesthetic point of view, and want to add sand to
the new tank, which I'm sure the new Twinspot will love more than the coral. My
LFS suggested that with adding the new LS, my existing as well as some new LR,
and also adding a live bacteria product, that I could move the fish over after
24 hours, and if I wanted to wait 1 week and monitor the water that would be
better, but after 1 week it was fine. I have read the articles here on
establishing the bio filter and cycling, and that time period seems a little
short to me. I really don't have the space to maintain both tanks for long, but
when it comes to the health of my "babies" I can manage for a couple weeks. Do
you think adding what I have mentioned above, and waiting about 2 weeks and
monitoring the water quality will be long enough?
<Yes, as long as all the params read appropriately...should anything go awry,
Amquel+ is a lifesaver. Make sure your skimmer can handle the larger water
volume, and if you don't have a skimmer, get one>
Also, they advised that by adding all three items, LR, LS, and live bacteria,
that I really wont see a fluctuation in test numbers in terms of ammonia and
nitrites. What SHOULD I be looking for to know that the tank is truly ready, an
increase in Nitrates?
<If your ammonia and nitrites are zero, you can safely add your livestock.
Monitor your water once daily for any ammonia or nitrite spikes (possible but
not likely) and dose with Amquel+ or Seachem Prime to neutralize (assuming your
animals are present)>
My last question is, will moving the decor and LR to the new tank, and basically
leaving my livestock in a bare tank with substrate be detrimental to them?
Should I leave a couple decorations and a big piece or two of LR in there until
the move?
<I wouldn't even split the two - you should be fine adding the LR and fish at
the same time. The LR is what's performing your biological filtration in your
current aquarium anyway (unless you have another biological filter you didn't
mention) and it will continue to do so in your new aquarium. Add your sand to
you new aquarium, fill with saltwater of the same temp/salinity/pH, and add your
rock and animals - just see above re params>
Sorry for so many questions, but I want to do this the right way and not over
stress them.
<No problem>
Thank you again for such a great site and great information.
<Anytime>
Mike Parker
<M. Maddox>
Re: Moving to a Bigger Tank
2/5/08
Thank you again Mike for the wonderful info and help.
<Anytime>
I have a couple follow up questions if that is ok?
<Sure>
I visited my LFS tonight, and one question concerns the live bacteria.
The LFS seemed to "strongly suggest" using this live bacteria product
that runs about $28 to treat 50 gallons. So, I would need to buy 3 of
them. Given that I am adding 100-120 lbs of new live sand, along with
about 50lbs of existing live rock, another 25 lbs (for starters) of new
live rock I am purchasing when I pick up the tank, and I also currently
have an unopened bottle of Hagen Cycle, do I need the other bacteria
they suggest?
<Not at all - no bottled product is going to come close to the bacterial
colonies on the rock/sand>
The Hagen cycle bottle says it treats over 250 gallons, and the tank
will be a 125. Do you think with the LS/LR/Cycle product combo that my
two week water-monitoring time frame would still apply? I'm not trying
to cut corners by any means, but I just felt that after asking my LFS
about a good $1200-$1500 worth of equipment I told them I was going to
be getting soon, they were just "piling on" some extras they say I
"need".
<I agree with you about the LFS looking for a profit. A two week waiting
period will be more than adequate>
The extras leads me to my other question. They also recommended strongly
a Pro-Clear wet/dry 125g filter. After reading a lot on WWM about
wet/dry filters and LR/LS, it seems that a wet/dry is really not
necessary, unless I was reading more into it than what was really being
said? Also, I have read a lot about removing the blue bio-balls, which
seemed to be the big selling point that my LFS was touting about the
wet/dry filter. Would I be able to run a good, healthy system with my
LS/LR, a 125g Coralife protein skimmer which I already have, and two
AquaClear 110 filters? I have an AquaClear 70 on my tank now, but I
don't think that adding 1 AquaClear and the existing 70 would handle the
job.
<The wet/dry isn't necessary at all, unless you plan on stocking a high
bioload of exceptionally messy fishes, such as
triggers/puffers/groupers/lionfish>
I guess what I want to know is: with the skimmer, two AquaClear 110's,
and using the money I would be saving on the wet/dry setup to get more
live rock than I had planned, would that be acceptable?
<With a decent stocking load, you're fine with what you have. No more
rock/filtration is necessary. Just use the AquaClear filters for
mechanical/chemical filtration and clean the sponges a few times a week.
If you want to spend money somewhere, spend it on a skimmer, because
manufacturers tend to overrate their skimmer's abilities>
As an afterthought, if that IS acceptable would it be in my best
interest to strap on the AquaClear 70 next to the two 110's since I
already have it and it would provide more filtration/water flow?
<Couldn't hurt - again, clean mechanical filters frequently (2-4
times/week)>
Thank you again for your time and your help, it is very much
appreciated.
<Anytime>
Mike Parker
<M. Maddox>
Moving into a bigger
tank part III 2-05-08
Thanks again for the help. Just a quick question on the water flow
for this new 125 gallon tank. The two AquaClear 110 filters are rated at
500gph each. My protein skimmer is also rated 500gph. I plan on adding
two Koralia 3 powerheads when I set up the tank @ 850gph each. That
gives me a total of 3200gph. My first thought was, is this too much for
the 125 gallon tank? Then I quickly realized that I really will only
have control over 1700gph of the 3200 total (the two powerheads) in
terms of directing the flow. And now I am wondering if that will be
enough flow for the tank? I'd appreciate your thoughts. By the way, the
dimensions of the tank are 72x18x22, Don't think I ever listed that.
<Sounds good, especially for a FOWLR. Put sponges over the powerhead
intakes and clean them at least once a week>
Thanks again for your time, and your help.
<Anytime>
Mike P.
<M. Maddox>
Moving to a bigger
tank part IV 2-08-06
Mike (or whichever helpful crew member may reply),
Thanks again for the help. I had a little accident last night. Some big
dummy dropped his Coralife 125 protein skimmer onto first an iron
doorstop, and then a tile floor, while taking it for a cleaning.
<Ouch - we've all been in similar situations>
Needless to say, the main collection tube cracked and also a piece flew
out and now there is a hole...not good. So I am now skimmerless. My
question is, with purchasing the 125 gallon setup I had mentioned, funds
are pretty scarce. The only skimmer I would be able to pick up from my
LFS for the time being is a SeaClone 150 (hold your screams). I would
MUCH rather not throw money into a sub-par skimmer (not that the
Coralife was a prize, but at least it worked well) and save and invest
in a much better skimmer in 2-3 months (which I had planned on doing to
replace the Coralife). My question is, in the new 125 fish only tank,
with 100lbs of new LS, 50 or so lbs of LR, 2 AquaClear 100's, and 3
Koralia 3 powerheads (I decided to buy 3 instead of two), and not having
any "messy fish" that you mentioned earlier, would this be ok? Would I
be able to maintain a good health level for my tank for a few months
without a skimmer? I don't know if I should take the "any port in a
storm" mentality and get any skimmer I can afford in there, or save it
and be able to get the GOOD skimmer a little quicker in a couple months.
Again I thank you for your input, time, and knowledge.
<You should be fine...just monitor water quality and perform husbandry
as needed. I would wait and purchase a quality skimmer>
Mike P.
<M. Maddox> |
R4: Lighting For 65g Biotope
Shallow Reef Clam Tank (But Not “Really” A Biotope…Bummer) – 01/23/08
Hi again, Eric
<<Hello Barb!>>
Here I am again! :)
<<Me too!>>
I read up on the shrimp goby/shrimp symbionts; they sound like my cup of tea.
<<Cool>>
Thanks for the link.
<<Quite welcome>>
My question for keeping them regards the substrate. For the DSB I was planning
on using the sugar-fine aragonite.
<<Mmm yes, I recall…not the “best” for the shrimp/goby>>
However, I've read that a coarser sand bed is preferred by a lot of these
creatures.
<<Indeed… And more than preferred…is necessary… to allow them to build
structures/tunnels that won’t collapse>>
Comments?
<<Easy enough to rectify by adding some substrate of a larger grain size…along
with some crushed shells>>
From what I've read, mixing different sized sands doesn't work well for DSB.
What are your thoughts on that?
<<I disagree… Adding a few pounds of larger aggregate will do no harm to the
DSB>>
I understand your comments about including an anemone in this system. If I want
to do this I need to thoroughly understand the anemone type so that it is
protected.
<<Along with protecting its tankmates>>
I get how sensitive they are, and I certainly wouldn't want to torture something
just so I have something cool to look at!
<<And it wouldn’t likely be for long at that. Do consider that there has been
some speculation that anemones may be truly “immortal” creatures, never showing
any signs/wear-and-tear of aging. Succumbing only to the vagaries of their
environment. Considering this…keeping one of these animals “alive for a few
years” can hardly be deemed as “success”>>
I am reading about allelopathy and it is slow going.
<<Patience, Grasshopper>>
Complicated, to say the least <I'm thinking you probably know this :) > I do see
why you suggest adding extra filtration.
<<Indeed>>
If and when I get my mind around the subject I’ll probably ask more questions!
:-/
<<Okey-dokey!>>
Re: light bulb choices; you say that it would be good to add more lower Kelvin
rated bulbs; is the GE 65K Daylight bulb the type you are talking about?
<<It is, yes…to replace the more “blue” bulbs in your previous selection…as
would be most any of the true 10,000K bulbs available>>
Adding more of that type would "give more output/provide more useful spectrum"?
<<Yes… A 65K bulb will have far better output than most of the “blue” bulbs, and
it will still have enough light in the blue spectrum for your livestock’s needs.
Generally, adding blue/actinic light is for the aquarist’s enjoyment>>
And, one New question concerning Live Rock; what is your opinion of aquacultured
live rock/live sand? I'm referring specifically to Tampa Bay Saltwater's
rock/sand. I was reading about it on several different forums, and it sure does
make some beautiful looking tanks.
<< I prefer to stay away from this, though use the aquacultured rock if you
wish…just be sure to cure it thoroughly yourself. It won’t cause any harm, but I
have heard many experiences of pest organisms (Aiptasia/mantis shrimp) coming in
with this rock. And not that this can’t be the case with “any” rock…but a good
quality “natural” live rock will be lighter (much “cultured” rock is Limestone),
and have better biodiversity…in my opinion. Oh yeah…don’t pay money for “live
sand” if you can help it. Add a suitable “dry” sand and it will become “live” in
short order from the rock, corals, et al>>
Re: cats and snow. When my kitty touched snow for the first time she shot
straight up in the air LOL... like about 3ft in the air. She was very sad when
she landed right back in it!
<<We’re still waiting to give ours a go in the snow…might be years yet!>>
And, lastly, I mentioned my son lives at the beach on Topsail Island?
<<Yes>>
On Monday morning it was 11f there, and all his pipes froze!
<<Yikes… Was about 23F here…still colder than we like/are used to>>
He wasn't happy about that, but he did get the day off work to deal with it. He
always likes a day off from work.
<<You know what they say…a bad day at most anything, beats a good day at work!>>
Thanks again for help with my (probably annoying) new-to-the-reef questions!
Barb
<<Not at all, Barb…I look forward to further exchanges. Eric Russell>>
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Thoughts on my new
reef tank setup 01/16/2008
Hi,
<<Hello, Andrew here>>
Thanks in advance for taking the time to read my email, and for the
times you helped me previously. I've been keeping freshwater aquariums
for over 10 years now but have little experience with marine aquariums
except for a brief experiment with a nano tank at work ( took it down
when I went back to school ). I'm currently in the process of setting up
a reef tank and have been doing research ( reading here and joined a
couple of forums, books, etc. ) for the last couple of years.<<Best way
to learn and understand the marine side of fishkeeping and husbandry>>
I find plumbing the most confusing part of it all and was hoping you can
take a look at my rudimentary drawing and give me some input, as well as
on my tank plans. The tank itself is a 65 gallon AGA reef ready with a
1.25" drain and .75" return. I bought the setup used from a member on
one of my forums and he said the drain was an 1" but I measured it at
1.25". The stand, hood and sump were DIY by the former owner.
The sump is approximately 20 gallons ( acrylic ) and the hood has two
175w MH and 2 65w PC fixtures along with a fan. I have an Ocean Runner
2500 (3/4" outlet - 900 gph/10.5 ft ) for the return pump and am using 2
Koralia #3's and 1 Koralia #2 for flow ( I might cut out one of them
when everything is up and running as I didn't realize how big they are
when I purchased them ).
The skimmer is an Octopus NW 150 recirculating model bought with the
gate valve and mesh mod.s. I plan on gravity feeding it as one of my
main goals is to keep power consumption down ( I will probably only use
one MH bulb for starters since I originally planned on T5 but the setup
was too good a deal to pass up ).
<<sounds like a nice setup you have purchased there>>
I have since changed the plans from the drawing so that the vertical
pipe off the tee on the drain is going to the skimmer and the horizontal
run is going to the refugium, and have turned the skimmer around
accordingly ( I can redraw it and send it in if you'd like ). The
skimmer will sit behind the sump and there will be rock rubble in that
section where it drains to. In the refugium I will have some LR and
macro growing ( for nutrient export and to feed any herbivores, as well
as grow 'pods ). I don't know how deep a sand bed will be in the 'fuge
but I do plan on having a 4" sand bed composed of oolithic/sugar sized
aragonite sand and seeding it with some from an established tank.
<<Sounds all great so far>>
My plumbing questions are regarding the diameter of pipe as the previous
owner had the drain coupled to a larger
diameter pipe via a ?bushing? and I am not sure if this is necessary for
my purposes.
<<See no reason not to have it there, its fine>>
I am also not sure if my valves and unions are correctly placed.
<<Yes, they are fine. The valves are used to control flow to the
refugium and inlet section (your skimmer return)>>
Furthermore, the manual for the OR states that if it is being used as a
return pump with hard PVC pipe, it is best to use a short run of
flexible tubing to connect the pump to pipe to reduce noise. How would I
go about doing that?
<<Yes, it is a wise idea to have some flexi hose joining the rigid pipe
work to the pump, this can be achieved by used a barbed fitment from the
PVC pipe work and an attachment is available for connecting the flexi
hose to the Ocean Runner pump>>
I also bought a grounding probe. Does that have to go into the display
or can it go into the sump?
<<Either will be fine, many chose the display>>
Regarding livestock. I plan on keeping peaceful fish, leaning towards
smaller species with perhaps one larger centerpiece specimen, and the
invertebrates will be mostly LPS and softies. My list, which has to be
finalized, will be derived from this list ( as of now anyways ):
1.) Pair of percula or ocellaris clownfish ( preferably captive bred)
2.) Trio of pajama cardinals
3.) 1 or 2 Jawfish/shrimp gobies along with a shrimp goby ( I am leaning
towards a yasha goby but since they are pricy I am looking at Jawfish
and other shrimp gobies)
4.) Firefish
5.) One or two of the citron/clown goby types
6.) Dwarf angel ( I know these are a risk with cnidarians and have yet
to decide on whether I will take the risk but a flame or coral beauty
angel would make a nice center piece for this tank)<<beautiful fish, but
yes, certainly a risk>>
7.) Small, reef safe wrasse is a possibility if the angel won't work.
What do you think would be a good community made up from this list? Do
you have any other suggestions I should consider?
<<I worked out at about 75gals display tank size. From your selection
above, all are nice and relatively peaceful fish. Its a nice
range/selection of fish you have chosen, and mixtures of the above are
certainly fine. One thing to note though is to ensure a nice tight
fitting lid is used as couple can be jumpers when stressed>>
Regarding the Jawfish/shrimp gobies I have read alternatively that they
need fine sand for sifting through but that they also need coarse
substrate and shells for building their tunnels. Which is true?
<<Jawfish do require a fine substrate, however Goby/Shrimp combo's do
require a more coarse grade of substrate>>
Should I just scatter around a mixture of
small shells and a handful of coarse substrate for them to use?
<<A lot of people will tend to tailor make a specific area of the
aquarium with the more coarse sand/shell mixture with a view that the
shrimp/Goby will take on this area. The same goes for Jawfish, where
people will specifically have a deep area of sand in the tank for the
fish to live in...Hopefully>>
Any specific recommended order of introducing the fish?
<<From your research of fish, it will be best for you to add them with a
view on their aggression. Add the least aggressive fish first, and the
most aggressive last. If done the other way around, the most aggressive
fish will take its fair share or territory, more than what it would do
if added last>>
Do you have any thoughts on using GARF Grunge for seeding my sand bed
and/or 'fuge?
<<Its a popular product to use these days, others choose to get some
live sand from an established reef and add that to the new sand to
introduce and kick start life>>
For rock, I plan on using 50 lbs of Marco dry rocks ( after curing them
) along with a few pounds of live rock to seed them. Would I be better
off using cured or uncured LR to seed my tank?
<<Cured live rock is always best choice there>>
I guess that's all the questions ( for now ). Thanks again, Eric
<<Thanks for the questions, A Nixon>> |
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Reef Circulation Question
12/28/07
Good Day Crew,
<Hello Eric.>
(I'm sorry if a similar question came through just now, but my email system
"crashed" right before the email went off and I'm not sure if you got it..)
Thank you (to everyone) for a truly beneficial service. I read almost every
night, sometimes for hours at a time. My reef tank would not be even close to
what it is now without this site. (It’s now my ‘Healthy Obsession”). I would
also have no idea what an Aqua C Remora is (Excellent Product by the way).
<Very nice to hear of your success.>
My question is as follows: I am looking to improve my circulation. I currently
have a 55 gallon (standard 4ft length) Reef which consists mostly of Polyps and
moderate flow requiring Corals.
I have three Powerheads, the skimmer, and a Whisper 60 Filter (changed and
cleaned often to prevent build up).
-My first PH is a MaxiJet 1200 which is located on the left side wall, facing
center.
-My second PH is an AquaClear 70, located on the right side wall, also facing
center.
-The third is a MaxiJet 600 with a rotating deflector attachment. This is facing
“front and center”
The problem with this setup is that the MJ 1200 vastly overpowers the other two,
and the stream is such that it creates a high level of Laminar flow. (The AC 70
is old, and although it has been cleaned thoroughly, is very weak, only
producing about ¼ of what it’s supposed to.
<OK>
I have a few options. The first is that I could ditch the powerheads (most
anyway) and add an Ocean Runner PH2500 (650 gph) which I have that’s not being
used, and attach that to a PVC pipe system, where I could run it along the top
of the aquarium. I could drill/etc. holes in the pipe so it would spray
downward. I could add a few other powerheads for supplemental flow, but this
should be fine, correct?
<This could work, by the time you add the plumbing to the pump you will likely
have less flow than what is currently in your tank.>
I figure if you don’t include the skimmer and filter, it’s still over 10x per
hour of circulation.
<It is surprising how much the plumbing will reduce the flow of the pump,
perhaps even in half with a spray bar.>
Another option would be to keep the existing powerheads except for the AC 70 and
replace that with another MJ 1200, and put these toward the top of the aquarium.
<Yes.>
Out of those two, which is the best?
<For my time and money, adding another MJ1200 is what I would do.>
Also, if you have any suggestion that I’m not thinking of, I would love to hear
it.
I have been reading a ton, and discussing it with fellow reef enthusiasts who
seem to think the first idea is better than the second.
<More and more reefers are getting away from powerheads and going to closed
loops. If you don’t mind the look of the powerheads they give you a more
adjustable flow pattern and are cheaper to run. It is a matter of personal
preference. I own the particular Ocean Runner pump you have and love it. But,
the two MJ1200’s will definitely outflow the pump.>
Once again,
Thank you for the help.
Eric
<Welcome, I hope this helps you decide, Scott V.>
Tank setup help, Reef
12/26/07
Hello Crew!
<Hello Patrick.>
First off let me begin by telling you how thankful I am to have stumbled upon a
site dedicated in helping hobbyist in achieving their goals. I have found your
site a great help in the decisions I make for my tank and have had great
success.
<Happy the site has helped.>
I currently have a 135 gallon reef setup built into a wall with 240lbs of live
rock, and a DSB. It is lit with three 250w 14k MH. Its been established for
about 6 months. Both sides of the tank are viewable so all the plumbing is
located on the sides of the tank. Due to the design of the stand, the sumps
below consist of two 20 gallon tanks joined in the middle by three 1 1/2'' pvc
pipes. The water flows into the refugium, then through a poly filter, along the
pipes into the skimmer area, through another poly filter, then to the return
pump.
I want to upgrade the tank as far as size goes. I have found a 170 gallon that
is almost the same size footprint as the old, only a tad more depth and a lot
more height.
<OK>
There are about 30 corals in the tank, mostly LPS consisting of Euphyllia,
elegance, chalices, and blastos. I have a 60 gallon qt I can keep them in during
the tank exchange, but it only employs PC lighting, a heater, and a couple high
flow powerheads for circulation. How long can these species withstand these
conditions?
<Long enough for the move.>
Also, since the tank is built into the wall, the exchange would be fairly quick.
<Good.>
The sand bed is a 6'' DSB in the old tank, but should I use his same sand in the
new one? A nutrient spike is my main concern.
<Assuming your sandbed is good now, I would remove the top half, rinse the
bottom half, place the bottom half in the new tank with the original top half
placed on top of it.>
I am considering starting the sand bed over with new sand, along with some old
sand to "seed" the new bed, but what ratio should I use if I should go about
that?
<A sprinkle of sand to 50/50 mix, or even more.>
Would I have to wait for the sand bed to establish all over again before adding
the corals?
<No, I am assuming that you do not have an established bed in your quarantine
tank either. I would just make the move.>
Would switching setups in a day be too much stress for the corals?
<Quick one day move will be the best.>
If the rock is kept out of water during the switch, would the die off cause high
nutrient levels?
<I would keep it in water, easy enough with a few $5 Rubbermaid bins.>
Should I upgrade the lighting if the new tank dimensions are 72x18x30? I’m
looking to start keeping SPS but I’m hoping I can get away by placing them
toward the top.
<Your lighting will be fine.>
The levels in the tank is currently:
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 10
Ca 480
Alk 9 dKH
Mg 1500
pH 8.1-8.4
Phos. undetectable
Is all this water transferable to the new tank?
<Yes, reuse/save all that you can. Your Ca and Mg need not be quite so high.>
Sorry for the overwhelming amount of questions, I just want to make sure I do
this right the first time around. Thank you for the help!
Patrick in Cali
<Welcome, sounds like you will do just fine, have fun, Scott V.>
Metal in reef aquaria
12/19/07
Greetings Crew
<Hello Mark.>
I am in the process of starting a new 100 gal reef and would like to get it
right the first time with your help. The lighting is installed, a new Euro-Reef
skimmer is in the sump, and I'm ready for live rock.
<Congratulations>
What I'm not sure about is the use of metallic objects in reef systems.
The metallic objects I refer to include a titanium heater, a submersible Mag 12
pump which utilizes stainless steel screws to fasten the pump chamber to the
motor, and an Aqua UV ultraviolet sterilizer. The sterilizer is my main concern
here as it is equipped with a sleeve wiper actuated by a 1/4" rod about 8" long.
All these items have been used in a previous setup with no appreciable corrosion
so the stainless is of good quality.
I have always made a point of avoiding metal fasteners and clamps where contact
with the water is likely but these items are supposedly made for this
application.
<Good practice.>
Do I have cause for concern?
<No, these items can be used no problem.>
Thanks,
Mark P.
<Welcome, have fun, Scott V.>
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Starting Equipment, reef
12/13/07
Hello All ...
<Hello, Scott V. here.>
I have a 60gal tank (48"x13"x24"). I am moving in a couple of months so I have
decided to wait to setup my tank until after the move but in the mean time I
plan on purchasing equipment piece by piece so that when I am finally ready I
will have everything I need without blowing out my pockets all at once.
<Good move.>
My question(s) is this:
I am simply overwhelmed by what type of equipment is needed and after all the
research and reading I have done I still find myself confused by all the options
... what equipment is a must to run a FOWLR & Invertebrates that is quality
without costing me a lot of money in the process? (And the gph rating needed on
all equip.) I plan on using a 10gal sump with my setup also, so your opinion on
all equipment needed would be a great help and perhaps give me more of a goal as
to what I should purchase over the next couple months.
<Basic equipment will make it easier, water changes will be your best friend. A
good protein skimmer will definitely be at the top of the list. Heater, pumps
for circulation, water test kits, hydrometer and lighting for viewing should be
on your list. I highly recommend picking up a book on marine setup such as Bob
Fenner’s The Conscientious Marine Aquarist. This will go a long way towards
helping you familiarize yourself with what is needed and why. Also, a good local
fish store should be able to help guide you a pick out specific equipment. Buy
quality product now to save money in the long run. Best of luck, Scott V.>
Re: Starting Equipment, reef
12/14/07
I have already purchased the book you speak of (The Conscientious Marine
Aquarist) plus 4 others and a DVD
<Excellent!!>
... in terms of pumps and skimmers, powerheads ... etc ... is there a certain
amount of gph that each piece of equipment should handle to optimize the water
flow in my tank? (or does this not matter all that much ... because the book
does not touch on this aspect of purchasing) Thanks!
<This is more about combined flow and not having a laminar flow. Reading through
the articles and FAQ’s on this site will help you make your decision on how to
provide water flow. A good skimmer (what is considered “good” will also be found
in the FAQ’s) will have a manufacturer recommended tank size for your setup. You
will need to research the requirements of exactly what you plan on keeping and
set your tank up accordingly, there is no one “here is what you need to do”
answer. All the information is here, you just need to select what applies to
your individual tank. Welcome, good luck, Scott V.>
Starting Equipment, reef
12/15/07
Hello Again!
<Hello.>
Thank you for your quick responses in the past (btw) ...
<No problem.>
I think that until I move and get my tank setup I'm going to be a big pain
bugging you all the time! lol
Anyways ...
I’ve decided that I'm going to purchase an Aqua C protein skimmer w/ a MaxiJet
1200 & 2 MaxiJet 900 powerheads but now on to pumps and overflow boxes ... w/
the 1200 pumping the protein skimmer (295gph) ... which will be in a sump
refugium ... but my question is this:
It is suggested that the sump pump should equal 10-20x the tank size in water
flow which would mean I would need 1200gph for 20x (60gal tank) ...
<Flow through the sump can be less, 10-20X will be total tank circulation.>
Obviously the protein skimmer doesn’t come close ... so what size overflow box
would I need (gph)
< I would look for a box in the neighborhood of 300-600 gph for this size tank,
of course larger if you plan to run the entire flow through your sump. Please
look at these overflows.
http://glass-holes.com/category.sc?categoryId=3
I will disclose I do have an interest in this particular company, just want to
give you an idea of what you will need. I urge you to stay away from the siphon
type overflows lingering out there. You will be much happier if you drill your
tank for an overflow now, before it is set up.>
and also, is it feasible to use the urchin skimmer with a 20x pump?
<Yes, with the 20X being sump return/closed loop, not driving the skimmer, use
the manufacturer recommended flow through here.>
or would everything still run fine (I hope I'm making sense in what I'm trying
to ask)
<Yes, good skimmer choice by the way.>
Thanks for the advice!
<Welcome, Scott V.>
Re: Starting Equipment, reef
12/15/07
Sorry ... also forgot to ask if this light setup would work for a FOWLR
60gal w/ Inverts.
Current USA Orbit Compact Fluorescent Fixture, 4X65 Watt, 48 inch
Includes:
Two 65 Watt Dual Actinic Lamps (460nm/420nm) and two 65 Watt Dual Daylight Lamps
(10,000K/6700K)
Four lunar lights
Each set of compact fluorescent lamps have their own power cord and switch to
enable dawn/dusk lighting (one switch and power cord for the Daylight lamps, one
switch and cord for the Actinic lamps). The lunar lights have their own power
cords. The fan is wired into the switch and cord for one set of compact
fluorescent bulbs.
Black powder coated extruded aluminum housing. A great match for All-Glass,
Island, Oceanic and Perfecto Aquariums.
One 3" fan for ventilation
Adjustable Docking Mounts (legs) for elevating above aquarium. Easily removable
acrylic lens.
<For a FOWLR w/inverts this will be fine. If you plan on keeping corals down the
road you may have to upgrade depending on what you wish to keep.>
Thanks again!
<Welcome, good luck, Scott V.>
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Reef Start-up 11/4/07
I am getting a 75 gal aquarium. I am looking to do a reef set up (first one)
with LR, LS, soft easy corals, and docile fish.
<Welcome to reefing!>
I will approx 2" of substrate and plenty of live rock. I have a bit of
experience with the marine set-up; however I have been researching the sump
set-up and am a bit confused. With using all I mentioned above, will the tank
cycle itself, or will I need to add a cocktail shrimp?
<Your substrate should be either shallower (.5 inch or so, will trap less
detritus) or deeper ( 4-6 inches, provides some denitrification). Cycling a reef
tank with live rock has more to do with curing the rock rather than the
traditional cycling you are probably familiar with. The site has a great article
on cycling live rock, no shrimp required to cycle.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_2/cav2i3/Live_Rock/live_rock.htm >
The tank is coming with a wet/dry sump with bio balls. I understand bio balls
are not what you want filtering your reef tank. <They are not. > Am I correct to
use live rock and live sand (refugium) where the bio balls would go?
<Yes, I would also recommend lighting it on a reverse cycle from your main
system and including a macroalgae such as Chaetomorpha. This will provide a more
stable ph and some nutrient export.>
Should I continue to use the blue filter pad to filter the tank water prior to
the tank water entering the sump where the live rock sits?
<Some people do, some don’t. I don’t. If you do use it just be sure to clean the
pad quite frequently.>
Should the protein skimmer pump the skimmed water into this live rock
compartment or the return compartment?
<If you can I would try to process your water skimmer, refugium, and then
return. This will let your pod population from your refugium enter your main
tank without interference from the skimmer.>
Would you recommend using a UV sterilizer at first, or at all?
<I am not a fan of UV sterilizers. They have their uses, I just feel that the
average tank benefits little from them.>
Do I need to rinse the activated carbon before I place it into the sump?
<I would, just to remove dust.>
My other 2 tanks were FOWLR with bio balls in the sump, but I want what's best
and easier for my new tank. I plan on taking my time but I
want to set it up and cycle it correctly first.
Thanks in advance,
Jason Wagner
<You’re welcome, it sounds like you are well on your way to a successful reef
tank. Thank you, Scott V.>
Re: Reef Start-up 11/8/07
Thanks for the speedy response!!
<Welcome.>
Great advice, that is what I will do. I will be starting my tank up on Friday
I'm sure I will have a few more questions for you in the next coming weeks.
<No problem.>
For now, have you heard of using panty hose as filter bags for carbon? If so,
would you recommend?
Jason
<Yes, they can be used assuming that they are clean. No lotions, detergents,
perfumes, etc. The thing about nylons (and the nylon sold specifically for
aquariums) is that they tend to trap air and the water tends to just flow around
them. I use and highly recommend this Rio product
http://www.petmountain.com/product/cartridges/510039/rio-pumps-rio-bio-bead-cartridge-1-pack-110.html
It comes with media, just dump it and use your carbon (use a fairly high quality
carbon). It is completely reusable, does not trap air, allows flow through the
carbon and costs about five bucks. Have fun Scott V.>
Thanks very much for the information.
<You are very welcome.>
Reef System set-up
10/30/07
Dear Crew,
Thank you for the wonderful wealth of knowledge you place at this site.
I have been keeping a 55 gal FOWLR (have some star polyps as well) tank
now for 3 years and I attribute the success to what I have learned
reading at your site.
<Scott V. with you tonight, thank you for the kind words Mark>
I'm ready now to make a jump to a reef ready 90 gal (48x18x24) acrylic
tank, which I am going to custom build Hickory cabinets for (have a
neighbor who can make cabinets). I wish I could go bigger, but the 90
fits the space better. The wet dry on my 55 has insufficient capacity
for the 90 and I'll need to upgrade this as well. Through my reading,
I'm finding out that a wet dry may not be the best choice if I want to
try keeping corals, although I've seen many systems that incorporate a
wet dry in this application.
<First, congratulations on the new tank. Reefs can work with wet/dry
filter, but with sufficient live rock it is not needed and the bio media
in the filter will just trap detritus that could otherwise be removed
from the system.>
The reading leads me to a sump/refugium design. I have the tools to make
my own sump out of acrylic and I need some feedback on the design. I
have attached a PDF file with a drawing of the design I have adapted
from others I've found on the web.
As with anything "new" I'm apprehensive about giving up the wet dry cold
turkey! If you could look at the sump design and provide suggestions,
I'd appreciate it.
<Looks like a solid layout. The only thing I might suggest is in the
refugium. You have the water level set at 10”, you could raise it even
higher to get more volume in it since you are actually bringing water in
from the overflow rather than just making it a middle chamber that the
water just flows over. It is scary leaving something you know behind,
but your live rock will provide biofiltration.>
I think I have enough capacity to handle a power
outage, do you agree?
<Should be, that is a good sized sump. Depends on how far below the
tank’s waterline your return runs. Putting it just below the water level
and/or incorporating a siphon break will help with this.>
I plan on sending water to the refugium by splitting water off from the
tank drain and using a gate valve to regulate it.
<This is how I would do it, raw water to the refugium and your skimmer
wouldn’t process the full flow each pass anyway.>
Most of the tank water will of course go to the skimmer portion of the
sump. I have read recommendations of splitting the return line and using
some of that to feed the refugium but I didn't want to reduce the flow
back to tank. This tank only has one 3/4" return...I know that two would
be better...but it's what I've got. I plan on using the Mag 7 from my 55
to run this initially, but I don't believe this is sufficient
circulation. Will the single overflow/ 1" drain handle anything bigger?
<You could possibly split the return into two smaller returns after it
runs through the ¾ bulkhead, but you will still need some other
circulation through powerheads or a closed loop for a reef (10 X
turnover being minimum). The 1” bulkhead will already be pretty much at
its limit with the Mag 7.>
Thanks,
Mark Gustin
<Thanks for writing Mark. Its great you are building your own sump, have
fun with it Scott V.>
Re: Reef System
set-up 10/30/07
Thanks Scott....makes me feel more at ease before I begin cutting
acrylic...will make suggested height increase to refugium...maybe
another inch or two....don't want too much water fall noise.
<Glad to help. You have a good design for your sump/refugium, I
understand the need to keep things quiet.>
One more question...should I incorporate any mechanical filtration
between the skimmer and the return area? I may use a stand pipe in the
overflow and thus would have no mechanical filtration at all in this
system.
Thanks again!
Mark Gustin
<You could have a filter sock(s) on the overflow outputs or a filter pad
tray (even possibly run a Polyfilter) between compartments. You do not
necessarily need to use any mechanical filtration, a lot of people do
and don’t with great success. Without any mechanical filtration (other
than your skimmer), the idea is to have enough flow to keep everything
in mixed up until your skimmer or tank inhabitants process it. If you do
choose to run something just be sure to clean quite frequently. I used
to run a filter sock and clean it quite obsessively (daily). Not quite
that urgent, but needs to be maintained. Happy building, Scott V.> |
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Worried
Beginner, Marine Setup and Stocking 10/25/07
Gents/Ladies
<Hello>
I am about to introduce my first live stock this weekend, but I really
need some advice............
<Ok>
My recent set up is ....
190 L, UK 42 Gallon corner unit tank
<About 50 US gallons.>
Eheim external filtration with phosphate remover
A UV filter
Reverse Osmosis water - via my RO unit
Air Driven protein skimmer (advised by shop that it is adequate but not
so sure now :-()
<Probably not.>
Plenty of live rock
Tank has cycled
Lighting
2 x t5 28watts with reflectors
And 2 T8 20 watt blue actinic with reflectors
Parameters
Salinity 1023
Nitrate ammonia 0
PH 8.2
Sorry if I'm asking q's answered a hundred times....
1.A piece of live rock I bought had a beautiful soft grass like algae on
it, I've been told I should remove it, but it looks good, will it spread
?? from reading your posts I think it may be maidens hair.
<It may spread, but if you like the look of it keep it and manually
remove any that gets out of control.>
2.I have small flower like things growing on the rocks, Aiptasia (me
thinks), how can I get rid of these before they spread.
<Peppermint shrimp (Lysmata wurdemanni), or chemical attack. See these
articles for more
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/Aiptasia/aiptasia.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/cav1i3/aiptasia_impressions/aiptaisia_impressions.htm
>
3. I have no live stock at the moment, is my stocking guide ok ? what
would you recommend for my tank, (I will introduce them incrementally)
<5 or 6 small fish.>
2 clown fishes
<ok>
1 yellow tang (juvenile)
<No tangs in this sized tank.>
1 regal (juvenile)
<Nope>
1 Mandarin psychedelic
<No, needs a large and mature aquarium to provide food for it.>
3 blue Chromis
<Ok>
1 fox face
<At the minimum sized tank here, make sure to stock lightly if you add
this fish.>
And possibly a firefish angel
<I would go with either the Angel or the Fox Face Lo.>
Pulsing xenia
Pussey coral
<Common name that applies to several different species, some better than
others.>
Finger coral
< http://www.wetwebmedia.com/alcyoniidfaqs.htm >
1 anemone
<No not mix anemones and corals, plus anemones are very fragile and
definitely not appropriate for beginners.>
1 sand shifting star fish
<Will wipe out your sandbed fauna and end up starving to death.>
2 cleaner shrimp
<Ok>
turbo snails
<Ok>
Really appreciate someone getting back to me, as I've received so much
contradicting advice
<When in doubt, go with the more conservative approach.>
Mo
<Chris>
Re: Worried Beginner
10/25/07
Sorry forgot to attach the pic, as you can see the top rock has the
maidens hair?
<Can't tell from the picture, but the tank looks nice.>
Also, since the pic, I Have installed a Tunze nano stream power head
<Good>
Thanks
Mo
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55 Gallon Reef Tank... setup
10/22/07
Hello,
<Hi Adam>
I have been reading your site for many many months now as I started my first
reef tank around 8 months ago and am trying to learn everything that I possibly
can about the hobby. I have a few questions concerning my reef setup.
<OK>
First question is: I recently added a large piece of live rock from a LFS,
before the addition of the rock, I had very little problem with algae growth, a
small patch of hair algae on one piece of live rock and some in the overflow
box. After the addition of the rock I have had a Cyanobacteria outbreak. It is
centralized on the sand surrounding the newly placed live rock. I have vacuumed
and performed water changes for around a month now trying to rid myself of it.
Tank parameters are all optimum (zero nitrates, zero nitrites, zero ammonia, PH
8.2, I have not tested for phosphates in a while but last I checked it was
minute, Salinity is 1.023-1.024, I use Bionic as my calcium and buffer, Water
changes performed with a 5 Stage RO/DI at 8ppm, and all water aerated for 24+
hours. I have a 45 gallon sump with a trickle filter (bioballs), an ASM G-3
Protein skimmer producing dark green mush and a separate compartment with a
refugium. Various macro algae and several pieces of smaller live rock in the
refugium) I still have blue green algae. My guess is circulation. I use a Mag 7
for the return pump and it has only a single outlet into the tank. There are
three power heads 2 190 GPH and 1 Maxi Jet 1200. I have been looking at various
"upgrades" for this problem. One idea was to go with a Tunze Stream 6101, a SCWD
on the return line, and purchase an upgrade kit I have found for the Maxi Jets
that changes them over to a propeller style power head and says it produces
around 1600 GPH of flow. I would place the Tunze and the upgraded Maxi Jet at
opposing diagonal angles with the Tunze on a lower flow setting. (I am thinking
of going with the Tunze because I am currently finishing the basement and am
incorporating a 210 gallon tank into it, I would like to use as much of the
existing equipment from the 55 gallon as possible. Hence the LARGE ASM G-3).
Would the Tunze and upgraded Maxi Jet produce too much flow in the small tank
and turn it into a hurricane of sorts? Or should I try to use a series of 3-4
Maxi-Jets (maybe a couple with the upgrade kit) and a Wave timer?
<With your future plans, I'd probably go with the Tunze. This model has a flow
rate of 660 to 3170gph. You could use it at the lower flow rates for your 55.
Since this pump does not produce a high flow rate in the core area of the water
jet, it will not give you the hurricane effect.>
I know this will depend on my inhabitants. Currently the 55 gallon has
approximately 50-55 lbs of live rock and a 4-5 inch sand bed. All larger pieces
of rock and not too much rubble. It houses some pulsing Xenia, a Frogspawn, a
large Pink Leather (similar to a devil's hand?), Moon Coral, a Pink Brain, Green
Ricordea and some Star Polyps. Fish wise: there are 2 Perculas, a Bar Goby, a
Watchman Goby with Pistol Shrimp, 2 Green Chromis, a Yellow Tang, and a Neon
Goby. Also a myriad of cleaner crew creatures. I have thought of trying some
Acro frags and maybe a small clam (that could grow larger in the big tank when
finished), but am afraid that the T-5's being utilized ( 2- 55watt actinics and
2 -55 watt 10K's) are not enough and that the bio-load in the tank may be
getting to great to house any more animals. (please advise?)
<Yes, will not be enough light for clams and Acro's.>
Last question, I have a pink and blue brain coral (It is bright pink with a camo
blue pattern on it, I had never seen one of this pattern before and jumped on it
after researching brain coral care.) Despite my research I have noticed that
even though during the day the coral is large, expanded and VERY fleshy during
the day, at night when it opens to feed (tentacles displayed) the tissue seems
to be receding around the rim? (I was going to attach a .JPEG but could not get
a good picture due to glare.) I have had the coral now for several months and I
thought it was doing excellent. I moved it from mid tank when I noticed the
recession a couple of weeks ago. I thought it may have been too close to the
leather coral and too close to the lights.
<The two T5's are not enough light for this coral.>
I moved it to the sand bed, but still under full lighting and not in the shade.
The recession does not seem to be getting better, but as I said it looks great
during the day. Is this just what it should look like normally and I never
noticed it, or is there something happening to my favorite coral? ( I spot feed
it E.S.V. spray dried plankton 2 - 3 times a week)
<I'd put it closer to the lights and feed meatier foods a couple times a week.
Shrimp and clam in a minced preparation works well in this regard. Do feed at
night when the tentacles are expanded.>
I have pealed over the Wetwebmedia website and found no information on the
upgrade kits for the Maxi Jets, (it is available from Marinedepot.com and is
marketed as a Maxi Jet 1600 Upgrade Kit, it has two 5 star reviews, but I am
still skeptical) and nothing directly available in the way of the Tunze 6101 in
a 55 gallon tank.
<The upgrade kit for the Maxi-Jet's is news to me, but by looking at the kit, I
wouldn't be afraid to try one and see how they work. The Tunze 6101 is rated for
tanks from 52 to 528 gallons so no worries here. Another alternative for the
Maxi-Jets is the use the FLO Rotating Deflector. I use these on my Maxi-Jets and
they work quite well. Drs. Foster/Smith has the best prices on these, I believe
around nine bucks.>
As I said I would like to be cost effective in my planning, but ultimately I
want to do what is right for my tank inhabitants; for this tank is my pride and
joy and their happiness is of my utmost concern. :)
<Good to hear this.>
Sorry for the long email, but I have been building up questions since I joined
you guys in this great hobby. Almost all of them already answered thanks to you
guys and your wonderful site.
<Great, and thank you! James (Salty Dog)>
Thank you,
Adam
Stocking Level/Upgrade
Questions, reef 10/13/07
Hi ,
<Hi Gordon>
I have a question regarding some changes I plan to make to my tank and wanted to
get your input.
<OK>
Setup, (Quasi-Reef):
75 gallon tank (built-in overflow with two water returns)
20 gallon sump (Lifereef no bioballs)
36 inch Lifereef protein skimmer
2 Little Giant water pumps (model 4-MDQX-SC, 1325gph at 1 foot I'm guessing I
get about 1080gph at 6 foot), skimmer and water return
Chiller (keeps the tank between 78 and 79 degrees)
Coralife power compact light with reflector (2 65 watt 10K and two Actinic)
Power heads
Stock:
100 LBS Fiji live rock
No substrate, (wife hates it when it turns green/brown/white)
<I have one of those specie (wife) also.>
Various sponges etc encrusting the live rock
3 Rose Bubble Tip Anemones
Side question here
I noticed in some of the other articles you have that my lighting might not be
considered adequate for the BTA‘s. Both were about 6 inches in diameter when I
bought them and they are larger now. One split and both halves are now 8 inches
in diameter. The one that did not split is about 11 inches in diameter,
(dominates one side of the tank, it‘s a monster). I have never seem them
completely deflate and even when the tank lights go out they just close down
some. Color is good; tentacles are bright rose in color, long and flowing, (they
bubble up more at night). Base is white/pink; with bright green coloration
throughout (esp. under actinic light) foot/trunk is pink. They have been in the
tank for just over 2 years now. I also feed them pieces of silverside every 4-5
days. They readily take food and will enclose the food. The tentacles feel
sticky to the touch when I feed them, (nematocyst firing?). They do occasionally
move around a bit, just recently replaced my bulbs, so
I guessing that may be why as the light intensity has gone up some. Based on
what I‘ve read everything seems to indicate that are healthy and doing well.
What do you think?
<By your description, it sure seems like everything is going OK for you. BTA’s
do not
require as intense a light as most other anemones. What you have appears to be
adequate.>
2 True Percula clowns, (living in the largest BTA and one of the splits)
1 large Bi-color Angel
1 small Yellow Tail Blue Damsel
1 large Three-Stripe Damsel
<Trouble makers.>
1 Dwarf lion
6 large Turbo-grazer snails
1 large Coral Banded Shrimp
1 small polyp rock, (6 small Green Star Polyps and 10 brown Button Polyps),
hopefully this will make a good starter. All are fully open and waving in the
breeze.
Water parameters are all with acceptable values, except phosphate which is a
little high 0.01 to 0.02, (time to change the Phosguard).
Supplements
Iodine, Strontium, Coral Calcium, Coral Vital, Selcon and buffer as needed
I feed silver sides, flakes, brine shrimp frozen, freeze dried Tubifex worms,
Mysis shrimp, live brine shrimp on occasion, saltwater pellets, Formula One
(frozen), Phytoplankton, powdered and liquid.
My tank has been going strong since March 1999 and I‘m finally happy with it to
the point that I want to move forward with my planned growth.
Sorry to get so descriptive, just wanted to make sure you had a good overview.
<Yes, it helps.>
My plans for future expansion over the next year are as follows in the following
order:
1. Add another 25-50 lbs of live rock, flat pieces to layer it down to the
bottom from my two existing piles of live rock to cover most of the bare bottom.
I want to add a variety of different corals/polyps etc and hopefully have them
grow to cover this base rock to get a sort of flowing living carpet look. I hate
the bare bottom, (ugly, but I‘m not going to win that battle with the wife).
<Too bad, a coral sand bottom does offer a haven for helpful critters to
propagate along with aiding in keeping calcium and alkalinity levels up.>
I would like to include pulsing Xenia in this mix.
<A good choice and fast growing.>
Do you have any suggestions on good species to add?
<Mmm, no, not with your present lighting. Your choices seem well balanced.>
3. I think I need to add some more critters as a cleaning crew, but I‘m worried
about adding too many as I don‘t want any to starve, plus I‘m concerned about
buying a pre-packaged cleaner crew since I have no substrate for them to shuffle
through.
<Yes, I’d just add more hermits and snails for now.>
If I get one of the packages some of the mail order houses sell I want to make
sure that the species will survive in my environment. I can‘t get them locally
as my LFS just doesn‘t carry that kind of quantity, nor at reasonable enough
cost. What would you suggest?
<As above.>
4. I would like to add a small school of fish 4-6 I was thinking of Green
Chromis, but my wife doesn‘t care for them, she thinks they are too plain. Can
you suggest some alternates that will get along with their tank mates?
<There are some nice ones, but with that bar brawler (Three Striped Damsel) you
have in there I wouldn’t recommend what I had in mind (Pajama Cardinals).>
I would like add the following after the above
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